So, what would you put in music?
>>65765660
>Video games
>Art
Not even gonna bother m8.
>>65765678
video games are objectively art though even if you don't like them
>>65765678
Let's toss out film while we're at it. Trad, music, and literature are the trifecta.
>>65765660
>implying I'm really going to download that image and edit it for no fucking reason
Now fuck off and leave me to my video games that I play for no reason
>>65765714
how is film not art?
oh because it's not old and made mostly by white people?
You art purists are always racist
>>65765700
They have no semantic language of their own though.
Any and all aesthetic communication found within them is done through forms that are already their own established form of art.
>>65765660
your mom's
>The Last of Us is one of the greatest achievements in art
This chart is trash
>>65765764
except gameplay which is unique to videogames
>>65765678
Video games are art, but you can really see how immature the medium is when you put it next to art/film/lit.
>>65765660
Is there a better resolution version for this image?
>>65765799
well obviously, the medium is much newer than music, film, lit, etc.
>>65765678
Art doesn't exist
>>65765790
Gameplay is a means of interaction, how does that relate to art?.
You could say it works as a form of agency but that's not unique to video games at all.
>>65765764
video games combine all mediums of art
ergo video games are the highest form of art
>>65765660
>videogames
>art
>the LSD game as biggest achievement
this shit is so much I'm fucking dizzy right now, at least good old "V." and Silent HIll 2 are there
>>65765660
>heavy rain
>life is strange
please end your life
Also, somebody tell me what is that game with the all white person's back turned to us on the cover
>>65765660
>No Super mario bros NES
>No Super mario 64
Goes to show this was made by idiots. These games set the standards of how 2d/3d game movement should feel.
>>65765660
probably tylo be chillin
>>65765931
>>65765979
>>65766009
>>65766033
everyone focusing on vidya but too scared to post music
>>65765821
there is but it's too big to post or link on imgur
While some pretentious wanker made this chart, us /mu/tants deny contributing to this cuck's wannkery by calling out his bullshit.
Sometimes I really love you, /mu/
While we're at it, Liquid Swords as well
>>65766236
takes one to beat one
Only the dilettante pretentiousness of /mu/ can outwit this dilettante pretentiousness
>>65765660
Video games fucking does not belong there.
>>65766243
>>65766214
>pop music
>>65766377
>noise rap album no one knows
>indie rock album no one knows
>not technically pop music
>not popular enough to be considered pop music under autism classifications that think everything popular must be called "pop" because "pop" is le bad genre and popular music is le bad music, and the only good music is the music no one on the universe knows
This feat of autism deserves a standing ovation
>>65766122
if you have a link, I'd appreciate
"one of the most demented dance-pop anthems of all times... a masterpiece"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpzWRxCMGOs
>Greatest literature
>The Quran
I'm being trolled
why is it that whenever people try to include traditional art in charts like this they always have the ultimate babby's first fucking taste
>American flag
>>65766377
if it's list of the greatest achievements in recorded music history then modern popular music would encompass at least half of it, just as modern literature has a presence in its own list
neither deerhunter nor dalek would deserve spots, the more applicable of their respective musical styles would be doolittle/funeral (for indie) or 36 chambers
>>65766904
from what i've heard the style in arabic is incredible but very hard to translate
>>65766498
you're a fucking idiot if you think he's trying to talk down those albums by calling them pop. unless you can prove to me somehow that either of those albums are wholly avant-garde, classical, or traditional folk recordings that don't follow or resemble the structure of modern popular music then you can't call them not pop
>>65767766
>only avant-garde, classical and trad folk is free from not being pop
>what is popular folk music
>what is pop music influenced by folk
>what is popular avant-garde jazz
>what am I even doing here
>>65767834
You know what you do, you post this shit as part of your chart of interests in r9k or soc or wherever the fuck the thread comes up and let others tell you how much of a tryhard you are
Blade Runner should be in movies and Until Dawn should be in games desu
three weeks work finally done lads
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>>65767827
I don't think you understand what popular music is
>>65767766
you're new as fuck if you think calling something pop isn't talking something down
>great pyramids
>mona lisa
>art
christ fucking plebs, it's not an achievement if its popular
>>65768058
>it's not an achievement if its popular
>video games
>smash bros
truly a great epochal achievement
where is pulp fiction
where is super mario 64
i am not ok with this chart
>>65768422
SM64 aged like shit
good art is good art no matter how old it is
your nostalgia-tinted goggles are showing
>>65767476
thats not the american flag though... lol
its a piece of it
>>65767915
I thought this was bait until I saw Gorillaz. Then I knew it was.
>>65765714
No dance?
Your opinion is trash.
>>65765881
Because clearly when you play a guitar, a piano, a violin you aren't interacting with them, you stupid nigger
This, you cuck
>>65765921
Except not highest. There is not best form of art. Maybe you could say life is the form of art, in that very sense too
How are video games not art?
Some video games may not be - but many RPGs tell compelling stories, basically amounting to an interactive film.
>>65769914
>How are video games not art?
Were they intended as art? Or were they meant as entertainment?
>>65769946
Again, many RPGs tell compelling, and yes, can b meant as art.
Besides, even if something isn't meant as art doesn't mean it can't be such
>>65765700
>>65765799
>>65765829
>>65765859
Videogames are art in the same way that everything is art now.
They're still objectively inferior to every other artistic medium though.
>>65765714
Yeah.
>>65766009
also missing the genesis sonic games which were GOAT
sonic 1 for innovation, sonic 3 and knuckles for overall best game. sonic 3 and knuckles is absolute perfection.
>>65769946
why can't it be both? music and film are both.
>>65765660
I get some kind of vague embarrassment seeing video games here.
>>65769987
>many RPGs tell compelling
So are James Paterson novels if you know what I mean
>can b meant as art.
That's not what I asked, is it? What was it meant to be?
>even if something isn't meant as art doesn't mean it can't be such
Wrong.
>>65770084
>why can't it be both?
Did the artist intend it?
>>65765660
composers and then highly influential artists like the beatles, mbv, miles davis, can/faust the list could go on.
>>65765660
Trash the entire thing and start over. The majority of the works of literature on your list aren't even the best of the listed authors' works. If you really care that much you should read about Bloom's Western Canon and expand from there.
>>65767915
too much mu/core
>>65770261
cosigned.
>greatest achievements in vidya
>no dwarf fortress
>>65770551
it's there ya dingus
>>65770802
right, sorry, haven't seen that cover for it before.
>greatest achievements in vidya
>fl0w
>flower
fucking why
lmao at the greatest films basically just being the criterion collection
![Bigstock-25493885-Laughing-caucasian-girls-wearing-peeling-mask-having-fun[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ym4Ddia.jpg "Bigstock-25493885-Laughing-caucasian-girls-wearing-peeling-mask-having-fun[1].jpg")
>video games
>art
im going to crop out the top and put in "essential posuerart" and no one can stop me
>>65765660
Can I get this pic bigger pls senpai
>>65771940
>posuer
>>65765700
GAME MECHANICS CAN CONVEY MEANING YOU FUCKING MORON
and Yes I'm mad
>>65765829
I swear people will still be pulling the "it's a new medium" excuse 50 years from now
>>65772037
Okay, grandpa. That's enough now.
>>65765979
>Also, somebody tell me what is that game with the all white person's back turned to us on the cover
Bumping this request, I have no idea what it is.
>>65765660
so happy you put grim fandango in there, such a fantastic game
>>65772441
>still no talk of music
>>65773853
oh yeah this is a music board lmao.
i definitely think spiderland belongs in there, and in terms of importance I'd say velvet underground and nico and revolver
>greatest achievements
>vidya
>Life is strange
>heavy rain
>mfw
>>65765660
>The Stanley Parable
I didn't realize people liked it THAT much
>>65765660
For literature I think you're set. Didn't see Watership Down or Society of the Spectacle, but they might be in there idk.
if you have silent hill 2 and not 3, you haven't played 3. Put it on there.
> Heavy Rain
man I wish that story wasn't terribly handled and written. It had so much goikg for it in the first half.
Video games can be art, but it's hard to market a game like an experience. Most games are hard to look into and find love and expression the creator put into them because they have to be entertaining. I agree they are inherently art, but rarely are they "mise en scene" or whatever.
>>65765784
except it is
>>65774061
Might as well throw things out for albums too. Great lists as far as I'm concerned, but I'm no aficionado on all those fields so idk. I think music is the most subjective field so idk how this'll go.
Comus - First Utterance
Elliot Smith - Either / Or, self titled
Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
Beach Boys - Smile Sessions
Radiohead yeah you already know these
David Bowie - the rise and fall of Ziggy stardust and the spiders from Mars, Heroes
Townes Van Zandt - self titled
Faust - Faust IV
Outkast - Aquemini
The Notorious BIG - Ready to Die
The Beatles - legitimately anything you can think of
Led Zeppelin II
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
Pink Floyd - Meddle, DSOTM, Saucerful, Piper
I'm a pleb when it comes to classical
Rachmaninov - piano concertos
Chopin - Nocturns
Debussy - Claire De Lune, Féte
Erik Satie - ...in the shape of a pear, Gymnopedies
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring
>>65767915
idk how other people feel but wow that seems not great
>>65774276
the music part I mean
>>65774225
replace Blood on the Tracks with H61 or BoB and i'd agree
