Post your compositions here and get feedback. (Please, I'm begging you.)
Pasta:
An experiment in a pen-and-paper composing general, made for all the theory autists
This differs from /prod/ in that it is more focused on art music and music theory. That is not to say /prod/'s electronic music is unwelcome, by all means, post here! But follow in the footsteps of the classical composers of the 20th century who experimented in electronic music. But remember, this is NOT /classical/. Any art music, such as jazz, is acceptable
Post clyps, and please post accompanying notation so we can accurately critique your composing from a theory perspective
>Theory
http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html
>tl;dr version
https://gumroad.com/l/tldrmusic#
>Basic composing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWbH1bhQZSw
http://composer.rowy.net/
>Score Reference Library
http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page
>Fux's Counterpoint
http://www.opus28.co.uk/Fux_Gradus.pdf
>Free Notation Software
https://musescore.org/
>Score Preparation Guide
musiciandevelopment.com/2016/05/16/how-to-prepare-a-professional-score/
>Orchestral Preparation Guideline
http://mola-inc.org/article/Music-Preparation-Guidelines-for-Orchestral-Music.pdf
>Orchestration (Rimsky Korsakov)
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/77-Principles-of-Orchestration
>Takadimi: A Beat - Oriented System of Rhythm Pedagogy
http://www.takadimi.net/documents/TakadimiArticle.pdf
>Teoria - Music Theory General Guides/Articles
https://www.teoria.com/index.php
>Musictheory.net - General music theory with accompanying exercises and tests. Great for practice.
https://www.musictheory.net/
>Succint but insightful theory up to contemporary techniques such as serialism and set theory
http://learnmusictheory.net/
And feel free to expand!
>>65669362
idk if this is the right place, but how do I learn sight singing? i have to pass an auditory exam and i cant sight sing for shit
>2016
>still using some crusty 600 year old music theory
diggity-shiggity
>>65671513
dont you want to be able to write for real performers? what about work out how to write really good songs beyond "hmm this sounds alright"
Haven't you ever wanted to write a fugue or a 4 part choir piece in the renaissance style?
Let me guess... you only listen to popular music?
Small part of a score for solo flute from last years composers workshops
Can be heard here
https://soundcloud.com/psllbof/anagrams-for-flute
>>65670673
For starters, sing an octave of every diatonic mode up and down always starting on the same keyboard note
After you can do this, start at the root and sing leaps from that to every degree of every mode, then start at the root 1 octave above and sing leaps down to every degree of every mode (do one mode at a time).
Theres also sight singing practice books with real examples to sing/play, try looking that kind of thing up I can't name one off hand.
https://clyp.it/u3bdsidu
https://clyp.it/ca5e5ron
>>65673555
>>65673622
I dare not offer polyphonic writing tips, but maybe slow down the tempi
also where the picardy third ending for the first one? :^)
>>65673555
Nice! Fugue achieved. I'm very proud of you.
Good sequencing and modulation. Held my interest throughout. Good independence of parts. Could perhaps do with some more rhythmic and dynamic variety, but very nicely done regardless.
The stop at 2:10 felt a bit weird and abrupt.
Also you should do a ritardando at the end, slow down slightly leading to the last chord.
>>65673622
Another successful fugue. GG
>>65673651
thanks for listening m8. picardy thirds were out of vogue when i wrote that baby
>>65673714
thanks m8, yeah extra-contrapuntal details are lacking for sure
>>65673555
>>65673622
congrats me on all my repeating digits, i'll have to call mom in the morning
>>65669362
Can't believe you didn't mention orchestration online.
http://orchestrationonline.com/
Bandestration blog.
https://bandestration.com/
Samuel Adler's Study of Orchestration:
http://books.wwnorton.com/books/webad.aspx?id=4294990314
Instrumentation:
https://vsl.co.at/en/Academy
>>65671513
Doesn't render it useless. Everything comes from something, so we may as well learn of its origins.
>>65674258
In fact in the classical world, theory and scores are the backbone, an integral part. Pop fags can't seem to comprehend this
Without scores, you can't efficiently communicate what you want a performer to play.
>>65674238
>orchestrationonline
Oh ya hes great, ill add a link to that or his yt channel if i make op again
>>65674341
>not performing it yourself
Just made up something on sibelius, r8?
>>65675203
just found out how to export it to an audio format
listen to this masterpiece
https://clyp.it/xji5intp
ignore the silence after 30 secs
So I'm arranging this song and I want to make the modulation from E major to F major more interesting than playing everything up a half step immediately.
I'm thinking about using a bunch of V chords in succession.
https://clyp.it/4pnbvyvz
Does that sound alright?
>>65675022
But anon, I'm only 1 person. How am I supposed to play a piece for orchestra?
Also I'm not a professional performer. I dont play any classical instruments well at all. Why not let the specialists handle performance, while we focus on the composition?
I dont think you understand how the classical world works. Its fairly rare to have composer / performers. Lera Auerbach is the only one I can think of who is active currently.
>>65673555
Your next challenge is to write a fugue at a slow tempo, where we have a lot of time to soak up each harmony. Make it sparse and beautiful. Carefully construct each line so it could stand on its own.
>>65675203
nope
>the Korsakov guide is up
fucking nice OP. that guide is the fucking shit, I'm learning a shit ton from it
Just thought I'd share this due to it's thoroughness:
>An analysis of Stravinsky's Symphony of Psalms, focusing on Tonality and Harmony
https://etd.ohiolink.edu/rws_etd/document/get/osu1196113148/inline
>>65675203
Regardless of the music, you need to work on your beaming. Also, your stems are colliding with each other, your upper voices should always point up and your inner/lower voices should point down to avoid conflict.
As for beaming, just make sure you can tell where the beat is.
>tfw i hear music in my head all the time but can't play it or transcribe it
how do i learn how to do this?
>>65679180
Slowly and with hard work.
Honestly though, no it's still slowly and with hard work. However, don't fret, it's fairly easy! I can do this myself now, and it took me about 5 months to finally be able to do it. Some might be able to do it quicker, for some it might take more.
Do you have a piano?
>>65679289
I have a shitty keyboard I got from a friend a while back. 5 months doesn't sound so bad; I've studied a language every day for over 2 years and am still slowly going at it.
>>65679439
Ok great. Then here is what I recommend. Get yourself some sort of cheap recorder, and start simply recording your ideas with your best possible intonation (just in case, get over whatever insecurities you might have, just do it). Then, after you've got them recorded, go to a piano and start approximating (there's a very low chance that you might hit the correct notes with your voice right away, so don't be discouraged) the notes you sang and start making associations.
The key here is that you lack aural training and skills, so to make up for it I recommend the above, as if you do this daily you will be able to start recognizing pitches and you'll be able to start going "ah ok, the first two notes in my head are a perfect 5th away from each other!" and so forth.
Otherwise, keep sight singing et al. That's the only way senpai.
>>65674238
For those who don't have $130 to spend on the book, I've uploaded the 3rd edition here:
>Samuel Adler's Study of Orchestration, 3rd Ed.
http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/w473HFOA/file.html
OP make sure to add it to the OP.
Bump for one of the few good threads on this board
https://clyp.it/oqvmh4ej
feedback me pls
What is the name of the inversion in the second measure?
>>65682607
2nd inversion
In a three note chord (a normal triad):
Bass note is:
root -> root position
third -> 1st inversion (6)
fifth -> 2nd inversion (6/4)
in a four note chord (a seventh chord - a chord with an added seventh):
bass note is:
root -> root position (7)
third -> 1st inversion (6/5)
fifth -> 2nd inversion (4/3)
seventh -> 3rd inversion (4/2)
