>created two guitar, bass, drum lineup
>wrote own material, pretty much unheard of
>recorded on material, entirely unheard of
>first rock musician to pay no attention to his image: wore glasses, gangly, awkward as fuck, etc.
>constantly looked for new sounds: started with country then experimented with blues, gospel, classical musical, orchestral pop, etc.
>first artist to push rock n roll past blues imitation / appropriation
>unconventional instrumentation: celesta, handclaps, mallet percussion, etc.
>understated brilliant virtuoso drumming from Jerry Allison
>rock solid rhythm oriented music, little focus on blues soloing
>one of the first to experiment with double tracking
>utilized orchestra
>inspired too many artists to name
Genre influence:
>indie rock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMCCHVYV1BA
>jangle pop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfollv1111I
>twee pop / dream pop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMezwtB1oCU
>art / baroque pop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IuA0WNrVo
>orchestral pop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjFRHIhSvwc
All of this from less than three years of recording before his death at 22 YEARS OLD. How much better would music be if Buddy Holly didn't die?
>>65641168
Just imagine, I sometimes wonder if he would've kept up and been competition for the Beatles and beach boys in their prime. Damn shame
>>65641168
Pretty wild that you could consider him a PRIMARY influence of the Beatles, the Beach Boys, the Rolling Stones and the Velvet Underground.
I'd call him one of the most influential figures in all of rock next to Willie Dixon and even then who is number one between the two of them could be debated.
>thinly veiled /pol/ threads have dozens of replies
>genuine discussion of Holly has two
Fuck me /mu/ got evwn worse
>>65641396
You're not wrong but you should contribute something more meaningful
what's baroque about listen to me?
it sounds almost like a velvet underground song but it's definitely not baroque
Is it worth spending a hundred bucks on the complete discography of Buddy Holly, or should I stick to a smaller compilation?
>>65641396
>muh /pol/
Ah, yes, top tier addition to this discussion.
The gangly awkward glasses suit and tie man was his image.
He was great though, I always admired that he wrote his own songs in the 50s.
If you've basically got his three releases memorized at this point like I do, I highly recommend downloading one of the many compilations of studio outtakes and alternative recordings.
>tfw Buddy sounds like Boomhauer when he talks
>>65641529
I'm not sure if a complete discography is necessary. A two or three disc comp would definitely suffice. The think the Memorial Collection from a few years back was pretty solid
>>65641900
Is that the 2 disc 50 track one? I've got that
>>65641396
This isn't genuine discussion. You don't know what you're talking about. He was alot worse for popular music as he helped the dumbing down of music.
>Mu got worse
yes, nice try to subtly imply that you have been here long enough to notice a chance and give yourself credibility
Underage, saged. go back to r indieheads
true love ways makes me cry i hate listening to it
>>65641529
Official releases are only three albums. That's honestly all you need.
>>65641930
>He was alot worse for popular music as he helped the dumbing down of music.
lol
>>65641938
i used to mishear it as true love waits
it's a way better true love waits than radiohead though
>Buddy confirmed for Boomhauer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj8HLPIP1SA
>>65641168
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfollv1111I
Really can't say enough about this song. BESIDES the beautiful melody, BESIDES the delicate softness that up to this point was completely nonexistent in rock music, BESIDES that this song was one of the primary influences on the early Beatles Rickenbacker sound, BESIDES that this is ground zero for all jangle bands like The Byrds, the Smiths and REM, BESIDES the fact that it defined out 12 string electric would be used for almost all of rock history, this song also happens to be the first use overdubbed harmonies.
>>65641976
Why do you fags always just passively give dismissive responses like "lol" as if it discredits what I said? A shitty dismissive wall of irony is like the new "muh trigger warning" when you faggots can't rebuttals points and want to keep pretending you're correct
>>65641930
>there are people that doesnt understand that really popular swing and jazz pre-50's were essentially just traditional pop
>>65642001
I love this
>>65641168
>created two guitar, bass, drum lineup
No he didn't.
>>65642021
I'm sorry, is this supposed to somehow counter the idea buddy Holly helped contribute the dumbing down of popular music?
*fap noises*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMezwtB1oCU
>>65641168
watching a 15 year old pretend he knows any form of basic music history is so emberassing
>>65642050
Yea no shit he didn't literally invent the concept of those four instruments playing together but he did popularize it as the standard rock set up.
>>65642021
>really popular swing and jazz pre-50's were essentially just traditional pop
"no"
Have you listened to any of those? sure, the genres blended sometimes, but they had strong differences.
>>65642091
What is OP wrong about?
>>65642119
"hey op!"
>>65642100
Didn't Niki Sullivan end up doing literally nothing but flipping the pickup switch on Holly's guitar for Peggy Sue? They had one guitar, one bass, one drummer.
>>65641168
According to Little Richard he had a horse dick.
ywn be this talentless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1mx3TmmwA
>>65642051
popular music has never gotten dumbed down is my point
>>65642214
that's not what that post implied in any stretch of the imagination
And yes, it has. I know you underage fantano fags pride yourself on being smart critics of le always dumb pop culture and this may be hard to accept
"you're both wrong, ignorant and unspecial in your limited"""knowledge"""" in music"
>>65642214
>Guise I am anti lewronggeneration xDD gay fish I'm smarter and above pop culture so I can say that it's always been dumb so rap is the exact same as classic rock kek upvote my open minded critique of pop culture (which I am above btw)
>>65642318
feels summer
>>65642258
you obviously implied that popular music was dumbed down at some point, retard
>>65642318
nice argument
talentless hacks general?
>>65643370
define talent
>>65643370
it is now that you're here, faggot
His lo-fi demos he recorded right before he died were pretty killer. Great voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHQUwQiaMEU
>>65642449
See >>65642014
>This thread
>>65643753
except you didnt have an argument
that backbeat for peggy sue is so fucking good
>>65643793
anon basically dismissed you entirely through pointing out your faggotry
You're a fucking retard if you think he or anyone else for that matter will pull out their anthropology presentation from Tuesday and post it all to show you exactly why you're a retard
So basically yoyre a retard either way
>>65643895
yeah and I called him a retard right back so why are you bringing it up again
>>65643793
neither did you. Delete this shitty thread. on the bottom right in case you are new
>>65644005
whats your favourite buddy holly song
>>65644018
Stone Crazy
>>65642146
He flicked the shit out of that switch you disrespectful insolent shit