Post your compositions here and get feedback. (Please, I'm begging you.)
Pasta:
An experiment in a pen-and-paper composing general, made for all the theory autists
This differs from /prod/ in that it is more focused on art music and music theory. That is not to say /prod/'s electronic music is unwelcome, by all means, post here! But follow in the footsteps of the classical composers of the 20th century who experimented in electronic music. But remember, this is NOT /classical/. Any art music, such as jazz, is acceptable
Post clyps, and please post accompanying notation so we can accurately critique your composing from a theory perspective
>Theory
http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html
>tl;dr version
https://gumroad.com/l/tldrmusic#
>Basic composing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWbH1bhQZSw [Open] [Embed]
http://composer.rowy.net/
>Fux's Counterpoint
http://www.opus28.co.uk/Fux_Gradus.pdf
>Free Notation Software
https://musescore.org/
>Score Preparation Guide
musiciandevelopment.com/2016/05/16/how-to-prepare-a-professional-score/
>Orchestral Preparation Guideline
http://mola-inc.org/article/Music-Preparation-Guidelines-for-Orchestral-Music.pdf
>Takadimi: A Beat - Oriented System of Rhythm Pedagogy
http://www.takadimi.net/documents/TakadimiArticle.pdf
>Teoria - Music Theory General Guides/Articles
https://www.teoria.com/index.php
>Musictheory.net - General music theory with accompanying exercises and tests. Great for practice.
https://www.musictheory.net/
>Succint but insightful theory up to contemporary techniques such as serialism and set theory
http://learnmusictheory.net/
And feel free to expand!
>tfw power went out yesterday and I was unable to give any feedback to the compositions people posted
C6 - Em7 - Am -Dm7 - G13
I can compose in 3, in 5, in 7, in 11, even (currently) in 19, but for some reason, I just can't compose in 4. Or at least, it always turns out incredibly rhythmically boring.
>>65634220
lol nigga, we complain about shit we don't like and post memes.
none of us have any actual talent.
hey, working on something, gotta fix the drums. would post in prod but i dont like the music posted there. not my thing.
https://clyp.it/kgx2qbft
can't bump for two hours, so doing so now
>>65634995
This guy gets it
Stop lying to yourself you will never become good composers it's just a waste of your effort
How do you notate harmonics on musescore?
F-7 / Db -7 / B-7/ Ab-7
it has a blues
bA bup
baa bup
but a bit off kilter
it'd start a conversation
till the b section
bup pa da bup pa da bup pa da
ba ba ba bup
bu bup bu bup
bup bup bup
>>65635988
>F-7 / Db -7 / B-7/ Ab-7
playing root 7th 3rd
and then change the Ab-7 to an A13 on the last pass C7#5
>>65636338
then Eb-11 / B7b9
ok let's go and have a look, not great atmospherics out there, and as usual...
>>65635627
Composing is an end in and of itself.
>>65634936
Try harder senpai. Triplets, accentuation and rhythms starting on the te/and/+ of the beat (refer to the rhythm article in the OP), and then you'll get somewhere.
Check out pic related, an excerpt from the "Dances of the Young Girls" movement in Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring. It's in 2/4 and it's one of the most famous musical manipulations of rhythm of all time. Accentuation is your friend.
Also, if you don't mind, can you share the 19/x pieces you've made? The score even?
(also god dammit, fixed the post AGAIN WHAT THE FUCK DUDE i'm not even drunk)
>>65635309
Don't take this the wrong way bruv, but it sounds like something off of the F-Zero GX soundtrack
>>65638229
Thanks.
It's hardly even started at this point, so I don't have anything like a score. But it's basically in 5+5+5+4/8. (Or to get really detailed, 2+3+2+3+2+3+2+2/8.)
>>65638540
if you cant achieve rhythmic interest in simple meters you shouldnt move onto complex (or even compound) meter so soon (in my opinion)
Just go analyze Mozart quartets/sonatas like everyone else
shifting where the accent is (without just writing accents), using triplets, illusions of metric modulation, parts coming in at odd beats, rhythmic variations of motifs giving them more or less momentum will all be apparent
>>65638849
I'm just fine with simple triple meter, though.
>>65638540
That's interesting. However, I'll echo what >>65638849 said, and also mention that 5 is asymmetric, so unless you're going really fast, or your phrases are explicitly 5 8th notes, you're basically doing 3+2 or 2+3 or even 4+1. Again, seeing the score or listening to a piece, even if it's just a little bit, will give us more insight into your project.
>>65638540
Also, one thing I'll mention, is that you're better off writing alternating measures with different time signatures rather than 19/8 (e.g. a 10/8 [or even a 5/4 desu, then just specifying that when you go to the next measure, quarter note=dotted quarter or some variant of that] measure followed by a measure of 9/8). Imagine being a musician and having to make heads or tails of that time signature, it's ridiculous to look at (but not in terms of merit, just appearance) and will lead to lost time during rehearsal. They in turn will have to closely examine the beaming to verify, again leading to lost time.
Alternatively, if you explicitly express what the 19 groups like in the performance notes, you might be able to get away with it.
>>65639029
well then you better practice common time
>>65634220
this thread is awesome!
I'm studying Rimsky Korsokov's text on orchestration right now and highly recommend, as it has excerpts from his own work to explain the points he makes. I hope this takes off!
>>65639342
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/showthread.php/45270-Welcome-to-the-Garritan-Interactive-PRINCIPLES-OF-ORCHESTRATION-by-Rimsky-Korsakov
if i remember correctly that gives further explanation and audio examples to the book, check it out!
>>65639368
http://www.northernsounds.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/77-Principles-of-Orchestration
should have linked that instead actually
>>65639368
this is dope dude, so far I've been trying to find the spots in his music with youtube clips. You just saved me so much time; cheers!
I also recommend Walter Piston's classic text on harmony
>>65639430
haha ya i was doing that too and it was a pain in the ass
>>65639407
Wow, this is amazing. Will put in the next OP for sure senpai, unless the OP of this thread (not me) does so before me! And if he's reading, OP add that to the next thread, it's some great text.
Coincidentally I've begun sketching out (and I mean barely) a symphonic work based on some Russian science fiction, and was looking to study some scores by Korsokov to see what I could mine from it. Thanks!
Bm7 - E9 - Amaj7 - Gmaj7
Bm7 - E9 - Amaj7 - F#7#5
>>65640770
got any V7/V chords in there?
Applied chords are what I want to start using a LOT more. Bach was a master of this
Fugue: The fuguening continues
I'm making a cheesy jazz arrangement of an infinitely more cheesy song. I've never arranged anything before but hearing the reharmonisation is pretty fun.
>>65643776
forgot links
Arrangement: https://clyp.it/hfjpspt2
original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR-hWde2YsY&feature=youtu.be&t=22s
>>65643879
Quite nice. The harmony during the part following the first iteration of the melody was rather interesting.
>The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
anyone else go to sleep with a metronome playing?
>>65635627
How will I know if I can become a good composer or not if I don't try my very hardest.
>>65644469
nah I need complete silence to go to sleep. Even have to turn off any ticking clocks
