The album I'm working on is legitimately the best thing ever. How do I get it out there/find fans of the type of music I make/get a record deal?
Bamp
what do you make
I'm in the same boat. No idea.
if it's so good the record labels will come to you
Get a bandcamp.
If your music is actually good, you'll garner more and more listeners.
Play anywhere you can.
>>65615578
I love that movie man. Better than The Seventh Seal.
>>65615578
i doubt it but i hope you make it
>>65616365
Mix of Folk, Orchestral, Post Rock, Jazz, and Ambient. Bit electronic too. Currently experimenting with choral music and organs.
>>65616414
Got one. I think the issue is the music is a bit too out for most of my friends and family to be interested, and they're the only real people I can reach directly at this point.
>>65616431
I love it too. Probably my favourite film
>>65616633
>Got one.
Post it man.
>>65616662
https://thecartridgefamily1.bandcamp.com/releases
>>65616682
>https://thecartridgefamily1.bandcamp.com/releases
You're a big Bergman fan, I see :3
>>65616734
Yeah... want to use a still from his films for each album I make, ideally
>>65616756
that's pretty cool
>>65615578
the ''best'' is subjective, if you want fans look for people listen to the genres you like
>>65616682
That's first track is pretty sweet. Not a fan of how distant and reverby the guitar in the first track sounds, wish it was much clearer in the mix
>>65616734
>>65616756
This is the cover for the album I'm working on currently
Play live. make friends with people in your local scene
>>65616773
And Chime Hour is interesting, but I can't get behind the seemingly random dissonance of the chopped up woman's vocals over the top of the great instrumentation
>>65616776
That's from Winter Light right? I like that cover even more
>>65616633
>Orchestral
Not a genre of music, just an adjective.
>babby puts cheesy string sections on his folk album for the lauded honor of highbrow bandcamp relevance
Good luck with that record deal lol.
Idk if social media accounts help. send demos to labels you think will sign you too maybe. I'm in the same boat, I just broke ground on new music the last few weeks but I'm extremely happy with it (nothing like yours tho)
>>65616902
Can you link yours anon?
>>65616776
shitty album cover desu, doesn't look very appealing
put something sex related as the cover, that way you can atract more listeners
>>65616851
You obviously haven't listened to it
>>65616838
Er, well a Chime Hour in English Folklore is a time when you're able to see ghosts, and I wanted to create that kind of atmosphere, like walking through a forest and encountering a spirit, or some shit.
>>65616849
Yes it is!
>>65616948
Nice tip
>>65616682
>https://thecartridgefamily1.bandcamp.com/releases
Where abouts in the UK you based?
What the fuck MODS? This is advertising shit
You won't know how good it actually is, until it's done. Until it's done, it's ideas, it's potential. Once it's done, that's it. If it's actually good you won't need to market yourself too much anyway, and if it isn't that'll become clear to you in time
>>65617065
There are probably hundreds of pubs looking for acts within 20km of you unless you live in Sleddale Hall or some shit like that hahaha
You should take like a week and e-mail literally all the pubs you can and play in every single one that wants you. After you play those gigs, repeat step 1.
>>65617065
I am serious about the sexy thing, try making a cover that's subtle and not obvious clickbait and I guarantee you it will help you get your music out
t.world famous musician
>>65617213
If you are one of those anxious faggots like me take some beta blockers before the gig.
>>65617231
do those actualy help you? I was taking those at one point and it didn't do shit, not op btw
>>65617214
Wouldn't really suit the music I make though. I want some integrity like Mark Hollis or something
>>65615578
>legitimately the best thing ever.
Get the fuck over yourself.
>>65615578
>>65616776
baby's first Ingmar Bergman
not even his best film
>>65617330
It basically prevents the effects from anxiety like racing heart, that weird feeling on your throat, the hotness in your face. Since anxiety is basically a feedback interaction between negative thoughts and physical anxiety symptoms, if you take one element out of the feedback loop it can help you.
>>65617463
Which one do you like best? Is it Persona?
>>65615578
Get a soundloud, get a bandcamp, post in their respective threads on here, tell your friends, give it to people you know, play at local venues, anything you can do.
Do people still send demos to record labels?
>>65617504
>>65617463
>tfw wild strawberries is still my favourite bergman and no one will ever take me serious as a fan of bergman
>>65615578
This is some good shit OP. The atmosphere on the second track is on point.
>>65617403
If you don't think that you're own music is the best thing ever then why fucking bother making it?
>>65617463
Winter Light isn't babby's first Bergman bro. That's Seventh Seal
>>65617403
Was a semi-joke. Chill out
>>65617549
But yeah this. And thanks man
>>65617549
>If you don't think that you're own music is the best thing ever then why fucking bother making it?
Damn son, now that's what I call delusion.
>>65617544
Anything with Bibi Andersson is fine by me.
get gigs anywhere you can, make a bandcamp, get a small seal or something, make a clip.
my friend has a gig at the street in front of a cheap pub today, it's a way to start, lots of people go etc. though it goes nicely with the lo-fi underground proposal.
>>65616682
>https://thecartridgefamily1.bandcamp.com/releases
pretty awful and generic. no one will want to hear it
>>65617590
It's not delusion.
Why would you write/lay music if you don't think you have something to offer?
Especially in the genre that OP is going for which is (hopefully not OP included) full of pompous pricks.
>>65617652
Yeah this is sound advice, but my music is really difficult to perform life, especially if you're not making money. I need to write some material that's stripped down and achievable solo for a life environment, I think
>>65617372
Here's a cover idea from a Bergman film that's subtly sexy
>>65617673
>generic
That's the last thing it is
>>65617678
Yeah I mean I write and make the music that I want to listen to, stuff that does something for me and that I can't find anywhere else
>>65617695
>>65617678
There's a world of difference between making music that you're proud of and you think is good and calling it "the best shit ever."
>>65617590
He's right though, if you don't think you're offering something to people that they haven't already had, something that puts you above what similar artists are doing, then it's probably not worth putting out.
>>65617504
Wild Strawberries
>>65617544
Objectivity his best film feel no shame
>>65617680
You could attempt it with a backing track of the ambient parts and add some new string/vocal sections. Encouraging any future fans to go to you live for new shit.
>>65617754
Yeah that's a possibility. Nice advice, thank you
>>65616682
It's not bad, but if you legitmentally think this is the best ever you're delusional.
>>65617718
>generic
>That's the last thing it is
delusional
>>65617739
1. It's already been done before and better than you'll ever do it. It's a fact: there will always be someone better than you.
2. Having your head so far up your ass to believe that you're the best makes you an arrogant cunt.
>>65617777
digitzzzzzz
>>65617678
>Why would you write/lay music if you don't think you have something to offer?
because of the inherent joy in it? i love making music its my favorite thing to do. i have made music im happy with. but saying its the "best shit ever" is retarded.
>>65617803
I don't mind criticism at all, I really welcome it. But calling it 'generic' is unhelpful, and I happen to disagree. If you want to show me a ton of examples of similar things then I'll agree with you
>>65617754
Yeah I know guys that have like a sampler or some shit and just play the guitar (or bass sometimes) parts and sing.
Like this for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKpwIVY0Vxw
>>65617777
No problem.
But you should also set up a facebook/twitter page and you'll show up as reccomendations and on apps that show gig dates. More free advertisement and publicity.
Protip: Bergman is shit
Should've stuck with plays. All his films feel like plays anyway.
>>65617807
>>65617803
I think you're both taking this far too literally
>>65617753
Oh, thats nice to hear, maybe i've been hanging around the wrong circles
>>65617830
OP seems to be wanting to "push some boundaries" or whatever, for that you need to be confident or you'll get nowhere.
>>65616776
Effigy is a dumb name, I get your going for the orchestral church offal vibe tho
Try something darker and more abstract
Also, influences?
>>65617881
>The album I'm working on is legitimately the best thing ever.
>COME ON GUYS IT WAS JUST A GOOF
>>65617880
Don't be a dick
Let's all take a minute to appreciate Winter Light
As you were
>>65617912
Good point, he did use 'legitimately' in the op. Still, no need to get all autismal about it and argue over the internet about something so insignificant.
>>65617960
Fuck off, OP.
>>65617930
I want to be Gunnar Björnstrand
also serious question w2c his fur hat
>>65617980
Try again, i'm wild strawberriesfag
>>65617960
>>65617980
To be honest I thought the 'legitimately' made it more obvious it was hyperbole/a joke
everything after sommaren med monika was SHIT.
>>65615578
I've been wanting to make a thread like this.
How do I find a producer to work with me?
And how can I get people to contribute to my music?
I was thinking of asking /mu/ to sing up back-up vocals, or do back-up instrumentation.
And fuck a record label. I want to own all of my music and plan to release through Bandcamp.
My genres are hip-hop and pop.
>>65617910
Talk Talk, Popl Vuh, Miles Davis, Steve Reich, David Sylvian, Bennie Maupin, Arthur Russell, Eno, King Crimson, loads of others
I'm quite fond of the name, but yeah maybe something darker would be good
>>65618095
Beg for gigs like r/music does for tool.
>>65618114
Some poster here, for the cover I would also recommend talking a cell phone photo of a picture on another screen to give it an easy blurry and over processed look.
Pic very much related
>>65618114
Veil of Veronica as a suggestion?
>>65618238
lol
>>65617930
fuck i need to see that. Sven Nykvist is one of the best
>>65618147
Did you respond to the wrong post?
I kinda like it, but don't shill on /mu/ wipes away any credibility you have.
Also gig like there's no tomorrow, it's also a good way to make connections. You're only 6 people away from success, that's the golden rule and it's true for people like us.
It could be refined a little more though, but that'll come with time. Even the GOATs weren't refined until later.
>>65618543
I only posted it because someone asked. But thanks
>>65618543
>You're only 6 people away from success, that's the golden rule and it's true for people like us.
Pls explain
How do I record bloodcurdling screams (I'm talking very intense shit) at home without the neighbors calling the police on me?
>>65618705
go to a local forest at night and record your scream on your phone for maximum kvlt effect
>>65618799
I'm too spooped to go to the forest at night lmao.
>>65616682
wow this is legitimately the best thing ever
>>65618881
>intense screams
>afraid to go to a forest at nigh
what are you? a pussy?
>>65619014
Yeah basically.
>>65619030
try stuffing the microphone in your mouth and then put a pillow over your mouth and scream
>>65618620
So you're only 6 mutuals away from knowing someone who's successful and can help you. Which is why it's really important you have connections and meet people.
For example me, I didn't know until a few years ago but I'm only two close mutuals away from a very very famous artist and an easily get in touch with them. And I'm just your average music producer Joe.
>>65619079
Nah I should probably grow some balls and go into the forest. What's the worst that can happen? A ghost screaming in my face? kek they're not even real
>>65617475
So it literally blocks the beta male in you
>>65619122
>>65619079
But thanks for the tip though haha
>>65619120
Shit, I know some artfags that play music and know some less famous guys that know some guys that are more famous that know some guys that are really famous.
I also know a non famous painter that worked in a gallery and knows some important people in the music biz.
It's a shame I don't compose.
>>65616776
I think its really pretentious to take from other great artists work and appropriate it for your own use. Your album is not and cannot be anywhere near as good as winter light
>>65617463
please, babies first director
>>65619257
It's really easy when you think about it. The hard part is actually making worthwhile music.
This is some nice 7/10 stuff op, which is a huge compliment to an amateur artist. Refine it and practice writing more and you'll be great.
Also yeah, don't shill on /mu/, some people get assblasted over that. Go to the bandcamp thread if you have to.
>>65619304
Nice perspective, thanks.
>>65616682
these drums are terrible and any sensible mixing is just nonexistent
>>65617590
>le buzzword XD
Call it however you want, faggot, but believing in your own craft and trusting your musicianship is far from being delusional.
>>65616682
>United Kingdom
>krautrock
M8
>>65619401
If you think your art is the best thing ever abd cant possibly be criticized or improved on then you'll never get any better.
>>65619454
Not that guy but I think that my art is the worst thing ever and I keep it in a locked external hdd at the bottom of my closet and never ever mentioned it to anyone or uploaded it anywhere. That's gotta be good right?
>>65619401
>talentless hack detected
>>65619500
Well if you never show it to anyone and again, if you never work and improve it, it's equally as pointless just a little more humble which might indicate you're a more likeable person
>>65619500
This.
>>65619454
way to fucking miss the whole point.
>>65619414
Anglorock isn't a thing
>>65619377
I've had people compliment the mixing. How are you listening to it?
>>65619275
>Pretentious to use a still from a film I like that fits the concept
Why? Plenty of albums use film stills. I could have taken a picture myself and it would have made no difference
>>65619556
way to have no rebuttle
>>65619582
personally I think it makes a huge difference and your apathy to the idea shows a lack of ambition
>>65619546
>You make music
>You are completely open to criticism while still believing your work is good, unless someone proves you wrong
>lel u a talntless hax xD
Wew
>>65619584
I stated my "rebuttle" to your point in my op. Not my fault you're forcing yourself to misinterpret the thing to not trigger your insecurities.
Or that you literally have 0 reading comprehension.
>>65619552
>just a little more humble which might indicate you're a more likeable person
Not really, just a socially anxious perfectionist. It really sucks and discourages you when you listen to something you made and think to yourself "what the fuck, I thought this sounded so good but now that I listen to it, it's the worst thing ever, I fucking suck". It's like when I sing, people tell me I have a fine voice and it sounds good to me in the moment but when I actually listen to it recorded I want to kill myself. This way of thinking is probably what separates the succesful artists from the unsuccesful ones. Oh well.
>>65619611
I agree with you. I don't know why you'd want to steal a still from a film to use as an album cover. Seems very lazy and uninspired.
>>65619611
Not really, I found an image that suited what I wanted to create perfectly, so I used it. To go out and take an inferior picture would be a pointless errand
Are the Avalanches unambitious because they used a Marsh painting?
Is Eno unambitious because he used a Tom Phillips painting?
>>65619611
>>65619849
Most musicians get their cover art from outside sources guys, film or otherwise
>>65616776
It's like a mashup of Closer and Chronic Town covers
>>65619862
Those are paintings, my dude. Film is different.
And, yeah, both of those artists you've listed are terrible. It makes sense that they wouldnt be able to create their own album cover
>>65620019
Nice bait
>>65620051
I'm not baiting, my dude.
>>65620067
Nice bait
Lol, how did this start with "i have some good music" to an analysis of Bergman's Winter Light?
>>65620128
I don't see any analysis here
Lol, all you Bergman kiddos. Sjöström and Dreyer is where it's at.
>>65617179
shut the fuck up with this. no one fucking cares- get out in the real world. its music being posted on a music board so shut your stupid fucking mouth. its content thats relevant and not your stupid whining for mods. leave this board you little baby
>>65620195
Ordet is alright.
>>65620219
Well, I will NOT be buying this album.
How rude
>>65620219
so, I can come here and shill my stupid album if I ask how I go about getting people to hear it?
>>65620298
I ONLY POSTED IT BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED ME TO!
>>65620254
>alright
Bergman pleb
not op
could you guys do anything worthwhile with just this gear? asking for a friend.
brands aren't exactly the same as in the pic, but pretty similar stuff only cheap I guess?
>>65620528
Mama mia thats a bad setup
>>65620298
im not op idk why >>65620266 >>65620298 think i am. yeah go for it. post it all you want. i dont care how you do it. if its a good album then im glad to be able to find it. and if it sucks then people will tell you it sucks, no one will respond to the threads, they'll be pruned and deleted. and if you keep doing it and its still shitty then you're just ruining yourself as an artist so it won't matter and you'll either be a troll and worthless to everyone and easy to ignore or you'll stop because you're tired of people shitting on you every time you post
>>65620528
this is more than enough
>>65620528
are you kidding thats pretty much everything you need as long as you got someone who knows how to work a daw and mix shit that comes through that mic. you might need a bassist too and to borrow some mics for the drums
>>65620549
yeah i know the money situation isn't great either. most things were gifts and stuff I already had around the house.
>>65620551
Look man, it's cool. Ok? I just want to stop us from having another Car Seat Headrest on our hands.
>>65620569
the mic has a lot of background noise and it sounds weird sometimes (that's why it is a 20$ mic)
is it really true that you have to have really expensive gear to sound good?
>>65620528
You'll need an audio interface to get the instruments into the laptop
Or just record each track with the mic input, but ehhh
>>65620657
oh wow please save us from hearing music idk what i would do if i i had to check out 10 seconds of twee and click the x button on a laptop. god forbid. i dont need a basement dwelling autistic kid freaking out every time an album is posted that they havent seen before crying for their mommy mods. the whole viral/shill shit is so fucking annoying and whats ironic is that its an anonymous board- you cant even fucking know if its them you're just guessing. its pointless and discourages people from posting music which is the point of the board. we want good music, if you care about the source enough to not like something because the person who made it told you about it then you're a fucking retard. if its good its good, if not then who cares itll fade just like everything else
>>65620813
I'd love to hear your album
>>65616633
>Folk
stopped reading there
>>65620876
i dont care about what you'd love to do.
>>65620908
Was the word too complex for you?
You are a pompous douche, OP. You will never make over $1,000 with your music. Give up and go ironically watch your Swedish films you pretentious twat.
>>65620955
Well, you obviously care about how I feel about people shilling their music here.
Let's take our relationship a step further.
>>65620993
>I don't understand it, so it must be pretentious!
Go and watch Avengers or something dude
>>65621020
no- ill just continue to lash out and will end up hurting you. yer better off without me bb ill drag you down
>>65620760
>>65620569
>>65620553
>>65620553
>>65620549
anyway thanks for the tips guys. i have absolutely no idea what i'm doing. i only know how to play the drums somewhat well. i forgot all my musical theory (i went to music school for 3 years for percussion) and i don't know how to play the guitar properly besides 10 chords. i don't know how mastering and mixing stuff works and don't understand daws at all with the exception of beginner tier fl studio. about the only good things i have is drumming and singing. the other things is, i have an idea of what i want (lots of synth fuckery) but no idea of how to execute it because synths are expensive af (and computer vsts aren't the same thing at all for me) and i don't know how to play piano or synths or any musical theory besides drum notes, guitar tabs and rhythm.
>>65621034
No, I actually love Bergman. But you really just come off as some pompous douche.
>>65615578
>>65620955
>>65621171
Pompous why? Cuz I posted my album? I've said nothing 'pompous' at all man
>>65621155
Is your music all made by you. Like, how did you get those strings on Chime Hour?
>>65621225
ah no no i'm not op
>>65621302
Ah, my bad.
>>65615578
OP, do you compose all your music yourself? Like, how did you get those strings on Chime Hour?
I think this is a bit better than your average /mu/sician
pretty cool op. good luck.
>>65616776
do you have the rights to use this image?
>>65616682
It's not great my man
>>65621390
Probably an orchestral VST
>>65622183
Sure sounds like it lmao.
You have some cool ideas, but the album isn't cohesive and your sound is pretentious. It's unrefined experimental music, prime example bing The Clearing.
You sample the intro to a Spirtualized song and then recontextualize it with some ameteur drum programming. It doesn't sound good, if your going to reuse such a recognizable sample the new context you provide must jive well.
Some of the songs also have some atonal samples that heighten the pretentious nature of the sound. Experimental music is either made by those without experience or those with an abundance. Keep working, get your head out of your ass and you might make some good shit.
>>65623072
The shade. The shade of it all.
>>65623116
I agree with this
>>65623116
Pretty fucking accurate tbqh
>>65623116
I concur with you.
>>65623116
We share similar viewpoints.
>>65623116
Our opinions coincide.
>>65623116
you nailed it pupper
>>65615578
Hey op
Like the music overall, especially Sprawl
If I were to make a suggestion, I would say to use the electronic sounds more. Sounded cool.
>>65623116
im in agreement with this poster
>>65623116
Grand slam, bro
>>65620528
You need bass.
Seriously, the guitars sound "broken". Is that supposed to be on purpose?
>>65616682
kill yourself
>>65615578
winter light is solid
your music is probably ok
>>65615578
I'll take a ticket
I wouldn't bother;
If you can't solve the first problem of gaining recording interest there's no point other than for your own creativity.
Art has a strange way of skewering markets. It is sad when artists starve to death, but... maybe they touch a greatness Kanye or Beck will never reach?
