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Beethoven edition. Which of his Godly string quartets does the most for you?
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>>65516571
I haven't listened to his string quartets yet? Is there a place I should start or should I just go through them chronologically?
>>65516593
Sure, chronological is always a good way to go. All of them are great, so it's not like you need to skip anything.
>>65516657
Good shit, I'll do that.
>>65516571
The Grand Fugue. What a brilliant son of a bitch.
Does a seeded vivaldi complete edition flac torrent exist?
>>65518006
not that i know of. it probably wouldn't have the best recordings anyway.
>>65517553
Pretty bro tier t b h
Hmmm.
I wonder why people harp on about how bad these recordings sound. I suppose the acoustic is pretty fucking dry, but other than that it has a really wide frequency range for its time and the dynamics aren't particularly compressed.
>>65519679
Nice meme
>>65519702
Have another.
why beethoven so much better than mozart?
Bump
https://youtu.be/b8gs4TozJbQ
More like this?
is classical the apex of music? I just started listening a few months ago. All other music doesn't compare to me, in richness or obviously composition. I look to my guitar and I feel no motivation to pick it up, I hear about how hard it is to learn violin as an adult and I'm like fuck, I will never be able to make something like this.
>>65516571
I guess this is a pretty obvious one; nevertheless...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2KlpV_ZOk
What are some god-tier pieces for cello? I need something to play after I get good at the piece I'm practicing right now.
>>65520204
Mozart is Mount Everest, Beethoven is Olympus Mons.
>>65523336
Anything by Bach
>>65523336
Bach's cello suites
Cello sonatas by Kodály, Brahms, Debussy. Beethoven, and Carter.
>>65523225
It is the apex but mainly because of the great geniuses that lived during that time. I always said that Beethoven wasn't the best because he was a classical composer, classical was the best because Beethoven composed for it.
>>65523336
Dvorak's cello concerto
>tfw all the good music is already done and there is nothing left for future generations
https://youtu.be/bHw4MMEnmpc?t=21m
What song is this at 21 minutes? Not classical - don't even care. Thanks lads.
https://soundcloud.com/b-e-b-e-t-u-n-e/ten-songs-for-humanity
thoughts?
>>65525191
The new Bach
>>65520204
fuck off clt
>>65525398
CLT liked Mozart better, newfag.
>>65525398
You're thinking of Poly.
>>65525516
When will this meme stop?
Poly doesn't hate Mozart. In fact, no one here hates Mozart, except for the contrarians and the newfriends who don't see anything particular about Mozart's music so they start spewing memes.
>>65525581
When one underrates Mozart, there is an implied hatred, when one enjoys Mozart there is an implied underrating
>>65525419
CLT (troll character) preferred Mozart. Richard (real person) preferred Beethoven.
Know the difference.
>>65525830
>>65525830
I miss CLT. Whatever happened to him?
>>65525918
He's pretending to be dead and anons from time to time.
>>65525948
How do you know that?
>>65525918
He retired the character.
>>65525964
newfag get out
>>65526038
it's too bad. the current crop of tripfags is pretty lacking. they're not very interesting, save for unty, and that's just because of how incredibly autistic he is.
>>65525581
Poly said Mozart has no emotion and even called him "Mehzart."
>>65526102
What tripfags? The only ones who post somewhat occasionally are SDF and Poly. And SDF is dead 90% of the time because of school.
>>65523767
dont konw that feel, sorry anon.
>>65526463
some mozart has emotion. some.
>>65525419
You're the newfag clearly as you don't know CLT posted anonymously as a Mozart underrater as a tactic
>>65527929
>>65523336
all of britten's pieces for cello, they are brilliant but they take multiple listens to start to understand
my favorite is the chaccone from his second suite
I really enjoy Carlo Gesualdo. Where do I go from here? Any decent charts with his style of music?
>>65530815
Ugh, Britten. Populist junk.... He was more concerned with sucking the people's cocks than he was with creating good music.
>>65530900
All english music after Purcell is putrid overwrought firetruck shit and should be shoved into a hole and forgotten.
Prove me wrong
Any recs based on these two works?
>>65531436
Suicide desu
>>65531436
listen to mozart
>>65531385
Maybe not holst but he was a nutcase and way too deep into numerology
Fuck vaughn williams though
>>65531457
yeah
>>65531460
i love mass in c minor already
>>65531385
Sacred music. New Complexity
>>65531436
pic
>>65530900
Brittens cello sonatas are the opposite of "populist" In fact most of his music tends to prefer form over popularity. His weird close harmonies and strict inversions for example
>>65531491
cool thanks
>>65531460
>schubert and mahler
>suggesting mozart
come on, at least TRY to keep it impressionist.
>>65531436
Ravel, Debussy, Sibelius...
>>65531436
Schumann, Dichterliebe
>>65531491
>Sacred music. New Complexity
>english
>sacred
>implying it's not a country of literal satanic pedophiles
>new complexity
>literally computer music except not actually clever and interesting like xenakis
Try harder.
>>65531466
Holst is the epitome of english firetruck garbage.
Nuke """""""Great"""""""" Britain today.
>>65531491
>>65531503
4lastsongsSchwarzkopfmind
>>65531552
Yes there are some great 20th/21st century sacred composers from England. Educate yourself.
>>65531552
>Xenakis
Now that's the good shit.
Suggestions like Xen, Haas, Ligeti?
>>65531572
No, there is not.
>>65531541
>impressionist
not only that but i was hoping for something thematically similar w/ stunning vocal performances too
anyway you guys always deliver thanks a lot
>>65531543
any particular recording?
>>65531491
>>65531503
fuck off poly
>>65531503
Back when opera singers were hot AND sounded good too. Oooh, those were the days.
I'd like to let her Schwarzkopf on my dick, efgyanowaaummsaiyan
>>65531614
>Haas
Why.
Fausto Romitelli, Iancu Dumitrescu/Ana-Maria Avram, Mauricio Kagel, Georges Aperghis (Xenakis student), Dick Raaijmakers, Simon Steen-Andersen and Yannis Kyriakides.
>>65531436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFunx2E2on8
>>65531634
>>65531766
I love Kagel, Raaijmakers, Kyriakides but will definitely check the others out.
>>65531541
>impressionist
>>65531979
Is this his last recording?
>>65516571
>that subtle pic
WE
>>65516571
Beethoven looks like a nigga on this pic.
>>65533753
Beethoven was a black man
Plato divides the soul into three parts: rational (λογιστιkόν), spirited (θυμοειδές), and appetitive (ἐπιθυμητιkόν).
Similarly, St. Paul has: spirit (pneuma), soul (psyche), and flesh (soma).
Now I think we can divide music into three categories according to which part of our soul or psychology it most appeals to :-
Appetitive / somatic - this music is mostly rhythm based, influencing the body; it is suited to dancing, marching, or just thrashing. The typical instrument is the drum. It is the least spiritual / most carnal. Example would be marching band music, hip hop with a heavy beat, heavier forms of rock music, etc. People that listen to music for bodily thrill/excitement prefer this kind of music.
Spirited / psychotic - this music is based mostly on harmony, and influences the emotions; it can be the most complex form of music because of the wide range of human emotions; its typical instruments are the piano, violin, guitar, which can express emotion. It lies in between carnal and spiritual music. Examples would be the more emotional/melodic pop and rock music, piano or guitar suites, most symphonies, etc. People that listen to music for "feels" like this kind of music.
Rational / pneumatic - this music is based mostly on melody; it is usually a lot simpler than the second because it appeals to the spiritual part of the soul, which is a lot less complex than the emotions; its typical instruments are the voice, the flute, the harp. Examples would be Gregorian chant, a lot of ancient mystic/spiritual chant in general, sacred polyphony, certain more "ambient" forms of pop/rock. People listen to this music for rest, contemplation, peace; it is often perceived as boring because it doesn't have bodily or emotional thrills.
>>65531385
Vaughan-Williams is pretty good and Holst has a few good pieces. Seems like none of them embraced modernism though like the Russians did.
>>65531385
I'm English and I agree
English music is just trash though, whereas German music is grotesque
>>65535513
Neat.
let's take a look
French sacred music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mcxEtyEUw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfhn0IZ6L8
Italian sacred music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RajAq0Yd-s4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUAgAF4Khmg
Spanish sacred music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRPEJkoEstc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYO3BhzTb20
And then we have, GERMAN sacred music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImPB3T1X3LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfiAsWR4qU
Care to explain yourselves, Kraut scum?
>>65535833
>Josquin
>Italian
>>65535895
wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jIYhNhc08A
>>65516571
15
>>65525830
Richard here. I do in fact prefer Mozart to Beethoven (but Schubert to Mozart, and Beethoven to Haydn).
>>65535972
>Richard here.
>>65535988
nice digits
>>65536032
Thanks.
Way to underrate Mozart btw.
>>65536070
Even I can't not underrate him ;_;
>>65535833
Also, Polish sacred music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Bjp9jptbM
But yeah, German music is a meme.
>>65536166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOiycw4UQGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyREJRz8wNI
Russia
Mozart's quartets > Beethoven's quartets.
>>65516571
Best version coming through
Post a Mozart string quartet better than Haydn's.
>>65536582
K.465
can I see what you guys' music players look like?
>>65536893
>>65536582
14-23
Will we ever be able to arrive at a convincing chronology for Ockeghem's masses?
>>65523767
good composers borrow, great composers steal.
who said that? I think Stravinsky did
>>65525191
trumpets, triangles and synthetic choir doesn't make it art music.
Maybe this is a silly question, but why are releases of collections of numbered works, eg symphonies, suites, etc, so often ordered on disc as 2, 4, 6, 1, 3, 5, rather than in ascending order?
>>65539987
that's a good question
>>65539987
I agree, good question
>>65536032
What is some patrician music to listen to while voting for Trump?
>>65535513
The third one is the feeling I get when I listen to Bach. It's almost like trying to solve a puzzle in my mind.
>>65540459
A puzzle of AUTISM lol
>>65536960
>Desprez
>>65539987
Because sometimes two symphonies don't fit on the same disc
>>65517553
>center right
wow what cunts
Which shostakovich symphony is your favourite?
Mine is the 7th
Where to start with Bach's organ works?
>>65536318
Further proof Mozart is underrated, every prefers Beethovens quartets because they don't know how great Mozart is (FP). You only posted that they're better because your suppose too, another example of underrating Mozart
>>65541959
The Trio Sonatas are a good starting point. Also there are plenty of preludes and fugues for organ.
where to start?
>>65543751
sonatas, moments musicaux, symphonies
What are some amazing works that feature a pipe organ? Damn things are godlike.
>>65544919
Hubert Parry - I Was Glad
>>65540236
News has a kind of mystery - John Adams
>mfw scriabin's early symphonies
disgusting, how do you enjoy this?
>>65545946
No one does. Only 4 and 5 are arguably any good. Parts of 3 are decent too, but the overall whole is painfully dry.
>>65536346
Superior meme recording coming through.
Bump.
What're some good recordings of Beethoven's trios?
Guys where do I start with opera? I listened to Werther and liked it and also like some of Lakmé
>>65548947
L'Orfeo - Montoverdi
>>65549218
Poppea
>>65548947
Saint-Saëns - Samson and Delilah
Massenet - Thaïs
Poulenc - Dialogue of the Carmilites
Bizet - Pearl FIshermen
Szymanowski - King Rodger
>>65548947
Listen to Mozart
>>65539987
>>65539987
Might be to do with the sides of a record, which they're usually released primarily as.
So, each record is 2-1, 4-3, 6-5
But then, the order recorded might be all of side A followed by all of side B
I think it is something like this, might be wrong.
