Let's have a good, clean discussion where we post and recommend some good black metal. Old stuff, new stuff, whatever.
Don't do this.
Blacku Meto Splitting the General
More folk metal but still some of Fenriz's best work.
>>65474212
someone posted Striborg the other day and it was actually pretty cool. thinking about looking into the genre.
I know about Burzum and Mayhem, but are there any other good black metal bands to check out first?
hey guys do you prefer the term Antihumanism or Misanthropy?
>>65474391
darkthrone
emperor
enslaved
immortal
blut aus nord
>>65474784
cool, thanks man
>>65474404
anthumanism sounds a little corny, so misanthropy
>>65474212
>>65474391
benis
Favorite Les Légions Noires release? Aäkon Këëtrëh - Dans La Foret is one of my favorites, even though it isn't really Black Metal.
>>65474391
Striborg would be a really weird way into the genre, but he's one of my favorite black metal artists. However there aren't a lot of artists with a sound similar to him. Obviously check out the entire 2nd wave Norway scene throughout the 90's. Bands like what >>65474784 posted are great, as well as Satyricon, The Covenant, Dissection.
>>65474404
Antihumanism sounds really lame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnpWs1W6ol0
Really cool band with interesting songwriting style
>>65475140
Whoa and apparently they just split up. That really sucks. I was hoping to hear a full-length from them.
>>65475140
how is their songwriting "style" interesting to you?
>>65475776
Okay I misspoke. Songwriting is interesting/good, not songwriting "style"
>>65475140
This is ok if they are 14
>>65474391
try what other people are posting but don't worry if you don't like the canon. i love black metal but think emperor, enslaved, immortal, dissection, windir, xasthur, and several others are quite bad. there's great stuff out there but lots of bands have severe quality control issues.
sup
https://soundcloud.com/kelvalhaal/tense-stage
>>65476778
Suh dude
Tsjuder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vw0u9ubLFk
>>65477719
Leaden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAx6yCa84BA
>>65477749
Odal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3l1uhDSB4Q
>>65477772
Carpathian Forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSrQPXCk7V4
Listening to this right now. It's pretty damn good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmn2oYX6PTE
>>65477782
Angantyr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqInrqjT1Q
also I prefer Carpathian Forest's live version of hes's turning blue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Rjtae4zkE
fantastic
>>65477834
Sortsind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TGA2BXHzNc
>>65477854
Grisatre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAJKNXhstiY
>>65477879
Aryan Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBP9TjmNiP8
>>65477899
Azazel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQkxGuI0qmw
>>65477917
Craft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_JMcfibmfA
Recently listen to De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas for the first time. Holy fak. Can't believe I've been missing out on this. Looking for some sources on the history.
Otherwise,
Cult of Fire - मृत्यु का तापसी अनुध्यान
https://ironboneheadproductions.bandcamp.com/album/cult-of-fire
Volahn - Aq'ab'al
https://crepusculonegro.bandcamp.com/album/cn-26-aqabal
>>65477934
Mutiilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuMRYsZI0_Y
>>65477936
check out live in liepzig
>>65477984
Grand Belial's Key
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwcsSwhZPmY
>try to listen to almost all the first wave black metal albums
>give up when you realize they almost all sound the same
man, that was really disappointing. There really wasn't anything worth looking into other than bathory and hellhammer were there?
>>65478012
Forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqs5PFxtrA
>>65478057
Prevalent Resistance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kCSUphnbM4
>>65478082
Pest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR2QbSFVAJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wae2MZCmECY
>>65478114
that is swedish pest by the way, not a big fan of the finnish one outside a single from a fucking compilation. here that is anyways
Pest (FIN)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c7gJxqDIh8
at least i think thats the finnish one. sounds like it from the vocals
>>65478190
nevermind that is swe its been awhile since ive heard it
Dethroned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQoZPzOed6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU5P064ajA
>>65478227
Goatmoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbS8v0-Msd4
i will take a break, enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d0lmTzAlp4
anyone know where to listen to their new split?
>>65478021
you listened to this correct?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp9lkveYPmM
>>65478297
Idiot nigger
>>65474404
I always get misanthropy and lycanthropy mixed up, so antihumanism for me
>>65474212
Bestial Warlust is the bee's knees pham
Hey
Now that the untrve memers have been left in the other general, let's finally have a civil fucking discussion on one of the better experimental black metal acts. Liturgy and Our Boy: HHH.
Not much I can find similar to this, or Deafheaven.
But I'll contribute this is sakes of recs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H_JU81kMWE
>>65478468
Returner is a motherfucker of a track and one of the best black metal songs of this decade so far
>>65478297
yes, it's amazing, but aside from that, the scene seems kinda bleak. Thank god the 90s happened.
>>65478530
90s black metal is overrated. A step down musically and the birth of atmoshit.
>>65478600
>a step down musically
>from first wave
are you ok anon?
>>65478614
Yes. Are you?
>>65478600
black metal in all is about atmosphere and it always has been
>>65474212
ITS NOT NOVEMBER REEEEEEEE
>>65478625
Of course i am, I'm not trying to argue that extreme thrash metal with harsh vocals was the peak of black metal.
>>65478644
also this, 90s atmoshit was great.
>>65478644
Atmosphere has been an important part but the 2nd wave sacrificed other musical elements for the sake of atmosphere and pushed it to the lead role, instead of a supporting part to the actual instrumentation.
>>65478683
>black metal
>instrumentation
black metal has literally never been about instrumentation, none of the great black metal acts were virtuosos at either songwriting or technical skill, what are you smoking?
>>65478679
Good to hear you're alright. I'm not saying that thing either who is?
>>65478710
Not virtuosos no, but again atmosphere used to play a supporting role until the 2nd wave, and that change is musically less complex and varied.
>>65478710
fucking this, it was just a bunch of edgy teenagers who found a riff they liked and then played it for a fucking cassette player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ionNHq0xJuQ
>>65478746
>I'm not either
well if you're saying the 90s were the downfall of black metal, then clearly by default the 80s have to be the high point, unless you found evidence of 70s proto black metal in some record store in belguim or something.
>it's a "it's only atmospheric if it has fuzzy noises" meme
Bathory's entire appeal is their atmosphere, their riffs are mediocre, and they often played their music while drunk (so, not technically amazing). But they sounded like satan came up from hell himself and put his own twist on thrash metal, which at the time was some of the most extreme music every invented.
>>65478773
>it was just a bunch of edgy teenagers who found a riff they liked and then played it for a fucking cassette player
and that's the best part about it
>>65478837
>and that's the best part about it
im not denying that, i am saying that it is literally no different even now and wasn't different in the 90s either
>>65478862
true, true
though it's infested with hipsters now, so i don't really know about that
>>65478882
>black metal is infested with hipsters
>now
don't be delusional
Shadows Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWabBumYmw
>>65478837
You are putting up a lot of words that I did not write down. So first of all, calm down you are clearly agitated.
Second, I just said the 2nd wave was less musical than other waves. I have made no judgement on quality. Second, all that shit you said about Bathory is either nonsense or irrelevant. That's where the 90s atmospheric style pioneered sure, but they aren't reflective of the 1st wave as a whole.
>>65478837
>some of the most extreme music every invented.
>Bathory
kek son what r u smokin
>>65478922
Pure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCMfdh3c0DA
>>65478948
Wolfsshrei
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93gQYT3BQZs
>>65478964
Satanic Warmaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BT7odNPhM0
>>65478922
>implying it's not
anon please. There's still lots of amazing music, but you know there's also plenty of hipster trash now.
>>65478929
>90s black metal is overrated. A step down musically and the birth of atmoshit.
> but the 2nd wave sacrificed other musical elements for the sake of atmosphere and pushed it to the lead role, instead of a supporting part to the actual instrumentation.
Idunno anon, these statements seem to imply that 90s black metal was worse than 80s black metal, so unless you're implying that somehow black metal got better after the 90s (which is possible but an argument i certainly have never heard), then it's safe to assume that you think the 80s is the peak.
>all that shit you said about Bathory is either nonsense or irrelevant
It would have to be irrelevant because it's certainly not nonsense.
>>65478941
at the time anon, at the time
>>65478987
Wylve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFFiJLBHSyk
>>65479006
No not at the time. You overrate bathory massively
>>65479031
what other rock music at the time was more extreme than bathory? What other band in 1984 was more satanic and edgy than they were?
>>65477739
>>65479006
I am not, and have never made any comment on quality of music. You are making assumptions.
>>65479069
Well if your literal argument was just that 90s black metal is overrated and that all other eras are fine, then I apologize. You'd be the first person I've known to ever say the words "the 90s invented atmoshit" and not think the 80s were the peak.
>>65479046
Oh, so you're talking aesthetics. I thought we were talking about extreme music, not image and shit. Who cares if a band has a spooky edgy image?
>>65479117
>Who cares if a band has a spooky edgy image?
considering that is the reason they became famous, a lot of people. Also
>not liking spooky edgy image
why even listen to black metal?
>>65479104
Of course that was my literal argument. That was what I wrote.
>>65479131
Alright, then i apologize. I hear this argument all the time in /metal/ so I assumed you were going form the same standpoint. It's really weird having something like this not delve into riff vs atmofag.
>>65479130
>the reason they became famous
>why even listen to black metal?
The music? Anon I don't want to accuse you of anything but what you are saying is poser talk.
>>65479158
>the music
define what you mean by that, because if what you mean is the technical composition of the songs then I don't know what to tell you.
>>65479179
I mean I care more about a band that makes good music then a band that made shit but had a kvlt image. Bathory was influential because it pioneered the tremelo picked riffs black metal would have in the second wave, not just because of satanic imagery.
>>65479021
good choice
Current listen,
Deafknife (RU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSd3rqcXYtE
Let's get serious here /BMG/
>Bosse De Nage
discuss
>>65479211
>I mean I care more about a band that makes good music then a band that made shit but had a kvlt image
well no shit, that's why cradle of filth is awful, but you can't deny that that the aesthetic is a part of the appeal.
>Bathory was influential because it pioneered the tremelo picked riffs black metal would have in the second wave, not just because of satanic imagery.
I didn't explain why they were influential, i explained why they were popular. Those are two very different things. They were influential because of the vocals and tremelo picking, they were popular because edgy people saw them as extreme.
>>65479006
there are more bands nowadays though so of course there is going to be more things you dislike. vegan black metal chef and cradle of filth don't represent the black metal community of 2000s, all the bands youve probably never fucking heard of do because thats the spirit of black metal. for me some of the best albums from some of the greatest black metal bands ever such as mutiilation all came out after 2000, and sure some more controversial genres such as depressive and national socialist gained traction in the 00s but black metal has always been controversial too and its an attempt to keep it that way
Peste Noire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLSUQYzqXZ0
>>65479245
>you can't deny that that the aesthetic is a part of the appeal.
what you said:
>why even listen to black metal?
>>65479252
I never argued that the black metal scene now is bad, just that it has a certain aspect that I dislike, that's all. I prefer 90s black metal because I feel there's a certain bit of honesty and originality that's lost on a lot of modern bands. It's hard to explain, but i hear it in the music.
>>65479241
complete trash
>>65479252
Haemoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPmfzPkb6Y
>>65479271
exactly, if you don't like the aesthetic, why listen? I mean I guess you could theoretically not like the aesthetic and also like black metal, but that would be really atypical.
>>65479277
>bosse de nage
>complete trash
ignorance desu baka
Anyone else ever listen to There Is Nothing by Ghola? Doesn't sound as much of a mess these days.
>>65479290
Production and guitar tone are just great, but I could never stand to listen to more than a song or two. Been a while since I last tried to give that album a listen though.
>>65479292
Music>Aesthetic
>>65479321
>check rym
>1 rating
you're probably alone on that one
>>65479337
enjoying the aesthetic greatly helps you enjoy the music anon
>>65479277
then i don't know what point you are trying to make.
>>65479290
Kadotus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1o7OBboX7E
>>65479365
Krypt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsqDDq5kPdg
>>65479277
>honesty and originality
>dislikes Bosse De Nage
hypocrisy baka desu
Anyone listened to the newest Skaphe (or their previous record)? I could never get into them at all. None of their leads stick, and I don't like their riffs even though they settle into a nice groove now and then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmHqSwpSnLQ
>>65479388
Graveland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIEHP2l_lwk
>>65479365
My point is the 90s didn't have that and modern times does, thus in my mind, making the 90s scene better, if only because there was less music, and therefore less trash. Also the whole honesty thing.
>>65479389
>>65479317
am i being memed?
>>65479425
No, you are being enlightened. You have been memed until this point. Tricked into believing that what Bosse De Nage are now is what they've always been. Early albums familia.
Also the hipster black metal guy is really an idiot
>>65479410
Gauntlet's Sword
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIip80UdcAA
>>65479425
you only think that because you know no bands from today
>>65479454
So then their first two albums?
>>65479461
the majority of the black metal albums I've listened to in my life (of around 300) are from the 2010s, that is literally why I have that opinion.
>>65479454
so their first two albums? Because they did a comp with deafheaven in 2012, and only had two albums before that.
>>65479496
Yeah. check out the lyrics as well
>>65479496
yeah. Third is meh. And they did a split with Deafheaven.
>>65479525
alright I'll check it out. I've only heard all fours, which gave me cancer.
krallice is so underrated, especially this album. the composition here is otherworldly. i've never heard anything like it before. it's some of the most virtuosic metal ever recorded
>>65479539
I've only heard hyperion from them, and it was trash. Is this anything like that?
>>65479496
so then why don't you post some good bands from the 80s/90s that represent your opinion
M8L8TH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPI_OA1TRO4
>>65479496
Do any of these ring a bell
Antaeus, Katharsis, Kaeck, Wolfnacht, Cobalt, Plebeian Grandstand, Neige Eternelle, A.M.S.G., The Ruins of Beverast, Gnaw Their Tongues, Krieg, Nekrasov, Peste Noire,
>>65479562
Trist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qGMqpAqb48
Huh,
I thought this was the blue man group thread.
>>65479593
Colorless Forest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjHk8aS-61w
>>65479562
because personally i would rather discuss music than spam youtube links, but ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVbnBhInv8 (don't really love this album per-say, but it represents the honest, often weird originality of the 90s without just combining genres)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1och2b9YApc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPLd0LESfYI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD03DuS-GI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rccnR4mwNco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPFtSPB1QWo (one of my favorites)
just for some
I realize now that I haven't actually listened to that much non super popular 90s albums, so maybe that has something to do with it. Gotta work on that i guess.
>>65479587
I love Katharsis, Plebian Grandstand, and Gnaw Their Tongues, I just feel like there's simply a higher concentration of good music in the 90s compared to now, which is why I like the scene better.
>>65479677
Drowning the Light
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzm-FxH3-fc
>>65479555
nah ygg huur is way more complex. check it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqY2p2Tlsbg
although if you didn't like hyperion then i can't promise anything. what didn't you like about it?
>>65479699
NEGROBUTCHER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaoTQy0tw3s
>>65479703
>what didn't you like about it?
Felt really bland
>>65479616
ha nice
>>65479722
>Felt really bland
huh. what did you think about the song i posted?
>>65479692
most of these links are third wave black metal though. really defeats the purpose of your elitist argument when the only difference between these bands and those from 2000 is a year
Graven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l3MLhZAl9Q
>>65478021
i'm the opposite, first wave bm is all i can stand because it's much more heavy on thrash.
any good lesser known first wave bm worth checking out?
>>65479860
I was arguing 90s, not waves. If you want you could include the early 00s too, but it's more convenient to argue an entire decade.
>>65479838
Listening now, that's actually really fucking cool, why did their ep sound nothing like this?
>>65479889
besides tormentor, can't name any.
>>65479860
Behexen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7befGf0VV8
>>65479901
your stance is completely arbitrary and every post you make proves this more. i am done with this pointless argument
>>65479901
>why did their ep sound nothing like this?
that album was the first thing they released in that style. the hyperion ep was released after ygg huur but it was actually recorded before it back in like 2012. i'm glad you dig it too though
>>65479928
>arbitrary
I guess you could say that, It's just how i feel from my experience with black metal. I was never really trying to make a massively substantial argument, I didn't even want this to be a big argument in the first place, you just kept responding so i obliged. I don't have any objective evidence for my argument, sorry m8.
More like this?
>>65479928
Vargsang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwRwbLdpMSw
>>65479968
unfortunately for you fag youve stepped into MY territory, eternal spergatory SEVERING THE ARTERY OF THE WEREWOLF BENEATH THE ILLUMINATED BLACK MOON OF RAVEN SPIT AND DEATH
>>65480003
uhm this is a black metal general actually
>>65474212
Any decent NSBM come out recently? Is the sub-genre dead or what?
>>65480073
lol
>vargsang
oh hey I've heard of them, they're not bad
>>65480178
The new Dark Fury is probably the BMAOTY
>>65480257
you would like graven too since it shares the same band members. and best yet is from the 90s
Xasthur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBpQB3A_QXQ
>>65480330
>This Story Happened Before
Wew lad, this is the kinda totally edgy shit that I can enjoy.
Does anyone know whether this is on an album yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWUcMpYvTo
>>65474391
Other bands like Striborg worth checking out are Xasthur and Leviathan. The creator of Leviathan also released a side project called Lurker Of Chalice. Also worth a listen.
>mfw Fanisk broke up years ago and there's no hope for another album
Why is it so good?
>>65481890
Why are their recent albums so bad?
>>65481924
I feel they are trying to "spice up" their discography by doing the opposite of everything that made their early EPs so great. It is trvly tragic.
>>65482117
LPs************
>>65482117
P4K got a hold of them and then I think they probably went mad from the current mess in Ukraine.
Dreadful Relic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981pvJsq_No
Works surprisingly well for lifting music.
>>65478477
An Autumn for Crippled Children and Petrychor are good if you're into Skagos and Deafheaven
You know what dudes you look like a schmuck
Could I have some Black Metal recommendations that would be similar to Woods of Ypres first release? Black Metal with good sound production, vocals that are distorted yet also understandable, and a sort of epic feeling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpwN-YKcQn4
>all the hipster garbage in this thread
