death grips is a meme, r-right guys?
Sorta. They're definitely memeing, but the music is legitimately good despite that.
>>65424082
i meant it like "people liking them is a meme because the music is legitimately awful"
>>65424138
No, the music is definitely not awful.
>>65424138
Their music is great, I genuinely love them. If you're coming at it from a popular rap approach I'm sure it seems like the most shitty cuh-razy thing in the world that nobody could ever like, but that's not how you should approach it at all.
Guillotine is the singular good song that project has ever produced.
One (1) song.
>>65424324
>Guillotine is the singular good song that project has ever produced.
One of their more mediocre tracks t b h
>>65424324
One of my least favorites to be honest.
Whatever I want, On GP, Come up and get me, The Powers That B, and all of Niggas on the Moon are just some of the tracks that I would consider great.
>>65424053
They were, but as usual, it backfired; so people now like them unironically. Pony effect on /mu/.
I've Seen Footage was pretty good.
Never been able to enjoy just about anything else they've made
Would be open to song suggestions
>>65424304
i mean what do you want me to say? it's laughably bad
i can see the appeal in pretty much any music and to me the only appeal of death grips is memes so i'm genuinely confused when people say their music is good
the mixing/mastering is obviously good but the music itself is just begging so bad to be the worst thing i've ever heard
>>65424529
that's sorta what i figured
is /mu/ actually like 90% underage kids?
>>65424624
Most boards are, at least under 20.
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>>65424624
Not true. Zach Hill was already popular on /mu/ and Exmilitary received wide acclaim throughout the board.
>>65424601
Can't you see the appeal of the raw, primal aggression in the music? The lyricism is intriguing, more like a stream-of-consciousness piece than popular hip hop punchlines and non-sequiturs, and the delivery is great, perfectly matching the lyrics and music. Zach Hill is an incredible drummer, one of the best of all time, and while this is showcased better in Hella, it should be as minimal as it sometimes is: Zach talked about the creation process in Death Grips and how the number one thing he would say is that his drumming needed to be more stripped back, only where it needs to be. Andy's production is great, and as you said, the mixing/mastering is obviously good.
What Death Grips have you heard? Bottomless Pit probably isn't the best starting point.
how could you listen to niggas on the moon and think "lmao death grips is just a EPIC meme"
i was blown away first-listen, and i'm not even that big of a death grips fan aside from notm, which i would consider one of my few 10s.
>>65424789
>Not true.
It's exactly the pony effect.
>Zach Hill was already popular on /mu/
As Lauren Faust on /co/
>Exmilitary received wide acclaim throughout the board
Same with mlp on /co/, then the memes came and people actually took it seriously.
Nothing wrong with liking them, as long as it's unironically.
>>65424914
Alright, I admit it, I don't know as much about My Little Pony as you clearly do, but what do you even mean by
>Same with mlp on /co/, then the memes came and people actually took it seriously.
Are you saying that the acclaim for Exmilitary on /mu/ was all ironic? Because that's total bullshit.
>>65424601
Your comments read like an overused meme. I swear I have read this exact comment 20,000 fucking times.
>>65424789
>raw primal aggression
yeah but it's even worse than metal because there's no musical talent involved
>the lyricism is intriguing
no it's not
i mean if you have adhd or maybe a meth habit
intriguing lyricism is something more like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23BHYmxOXk
>zach hill is one of the best drummers of all time
lol i've been drumming for over half my life pls kill urself for this statement
i mean really it comes down to subtly
i appreciate most of the things that make up the essence of death grips but if they're not subtle than it's not interesting
death grips is so unbelievably in your face that it's just a fuck you to anyone who's ever tried to actually finesse music before
>>65425053
>Are you saying that the acclaim for Exmilitary on /mu/ was all ironic?
No, but it wasn't as big (or big at all) as you remember. People constantly stating that they like them since exmilitary is a proof that the release wasn't as noisier as the post meme releases.
>>65425135
>no musical talent involved
>>the lyricism is intriguing
>no it's not
>implying zach hill isn't a great drummer
holy shit
>>65424451
impeccable taste anon
>>65425135
I've also been drumming for over half of my life and I can confirm that Zach Hill is fucking incredible. If all you've heard is Bottomless Pit I can see why you'd say that, but you cannot say that after listening to his solo work and Hella.
>>65424601
Perhaps music is not just about pleasing your ears and making you feel all fuzzy inside... perhaps it can be a means to move emotion and to cause excitement and challenge assumptions... perhaps you are just a basic person... perhaps I'm enjoying communicating thought I'm not emotionally invested in this communication in particular...
>>65425262
yeah but if you're 14 then half your life isn't that long
if you think zach hill stacks up against buddy rich, gene krupa, gary chester etc then post something that proves it
>>65425309
right but for this to be true pleasing my ears and moving my emotions would have to be separate which of course they aren't because i don't know about you but i don't get excited about shitty music
>>65425225
wut
>>65425354
Zach Hill's Toll Road is the first thing that comes to mind
When I looked it up on Youtube to give you a link the second thing that came up was this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRVlJlLBHu4
>spent all day figuring out 10 seconds of this 17/4 mother
It's fucking mind-blowing. Isn't on Youtube by the way.
>>65425400
>he can only appreciate 'pleasant' music
top pleb
>>65425458
i can appreciate all music even death grips but not unironically because they're a meme
>>65425497
on the off chance that you're serious please stop
>>65425434
holy shit how is this unironic
>people still falling for this bait
nobody on /mu/ is too pleb for death grips, or if they don't like them they don't like them because of purely taste-related reasons or because it isn't "patrician" enough. this is bullshit.
actually discard that, it is summer, who knows what levels of normalcy have come here from facebook
>>65425511
people keep telling me they unironically like it and then they keep post shit that sounds like memes every time..they try to convince me it's not memes but a meme is a meme is a meme don't lie to me
>>65425583
I like it because I actually find it interesting to listen to (NotM in particular)
I generally don't pay attention to lyrics in music but whenever I do they're pretty interesting as well
that's basically all I can say without it getting 'memey'
>>65425580
lol because i don't like literal garbage i must only know drake
this is such a played out character assassination
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>>65425607
what the fuck, this is either really good bait or summer has somehow become even worse
>>65425605
right but you finding sounds interesting to listen to is different from those sounds then coming together to make a piece of music that should get recognition as anything but a meme
>>65425686
provide an objective definition of what makes something a meme, a property of 'memeiness'
>>65425647
>Being popular on a board thanks to memes/shitposting is somehow bait or summer
>>65425718
we both know that the formal definition of meme only loosely applies
don't try to box me in you fuck
>>65425758
you're claiming that something should only get recognition as a meme, therefore you should define what a meme is
just going 'it's a meme' isn't criticism of the art in itself, and the closest thing to a passable argument you've made is that it's not pleasant to your ears so you don't like it
>death grips is a meme
>the music is legitimately awful
>Guillotine is the singular good song that project has ever produced
>Pony effect
>laughably bad
>the only appeal of death grips is memes so i'm genuinely confused when people say their music is good
>the worst thing i've ever heard
>underage
>no musical talent
>>the lyricism is intriguing
>no it's not
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N23BHYmxOXk as an example of intriguing lyricism
>pls kill urself
>it wasn't as big (or big at all) as you remember
>you're 14
>shitty music
>they're a meme
>how is this unironic
>sounds like memes
>a meme is a meme is a meme
>literal garbage
>meme
>meme
Nice arguments, dude! Looks like Death Grips DOES suck, whoops!
>>65425400
Nah, man. Don't misread my words. Again: Music DON'T HAVE TO BE PRETTY OR FAMILIAR TO YOUR EAR TO BE OF VALUE, hence, great.
Is not pleasing to talk about touchy subjects like how close to be wasted a life can be or the life of junkies that make money off stealing from abandoned facilities or people dealing with friends that are starting to give up towards self-destructive behavior, but when I heard Danny Brown XXX and 30 (and songs of that album like Fields) I was touched and made me sympathetic for other people I haven't been before. And that is something to appreciate.
Or the cathartic process in tragedies from ancient Greece till our musical present (operas by Puccini and even Ligeti; musicals like Company; Luigi Nono's works; FKA Twigs' like mix of cerebral vs visceral type of phenomena; etc...).
>>65425799
>being this assblasted
>>65425789
a meme in this scenario would be something that would not succeed in real life and is only successful because of the jaded ironic contrarianism of internet culture
>>65425841
he's not wrong though, this is some advanced stupidity (or more likely just decent baiting)
>>65425841
>assblasted
Nice arguments, dude! Looks like Death Grips DOES suck, whoops!
>>65425866
He is, considering I never said Death Grips sucked.
>>65425816
never change /mu/
>>65425865
well then you've put yourself into some circular logic. you dislike it enough to where you think it could only be liked ironically, then when people tell you they genuinely enjoy it you don't believe them because you're sure it could only be enjoyed ironically.
not to mention that 'succeeding in real life' is a vague and nonsensical idea and would undoubtedly discard many artists you could find unironic enjoyment of from being worthwhile
Fellas, I'm starting to wonder...Hmmmm...
>>65425937
i don't dislike it at all sir
because you see i'm a jaded internet contrarian
but people not seeing the irony in it is just so unbelievably mind boggling to me
>>65426016
I actually agree.
>>65426016
that doesn't make your reasoning any better
>>65424053
Meme band for teen memers who shop at Hot Topic.
>>65426058
i can listen to a whole death grips song and enjoy it but i just can't not laugh the whole way through
>>65426086
I got the same vibes from Anal Cunt and stuff like that, even tho they sound nothing alike.
I can't help to compare them to numetal.
>>65426060
well it's not circular logic
you're just a jaded contrarian but apparently you haven't realized it yet
by real life i mean normies obviously
>>65426175
then what you're saying is that anything not top 40 is an ironic meme
jesus christ
>>65426193
no what im saying is that specifically this band is only popular because of the ironic contrarian culture of the internet
i mean jesus can normies only like top 40 hits?
>>65424053
fuck you, death grips is the shit, i love them and im hella picky about my music.
>>65426264
this is the best argument made in favor of death grips so far
>>65426245
I never said it wasn't to a mild degree, but I can guarantee you the vast majority of DG fans unironically like them and find them genuinely interesting
and you haven't been with many normies if you don't realize that most are almost completely incapable of liking anything deeper than top 40 and the current pop canon
>>65426284
>you haven't been with many normies if you don't realize that most are almost completely incapable of liking anything deeper than top 40 and the current pop canon
holy shit never change, /mu/
right and they unironically like them because they're just internet contrarians whose entire lives are ironic
>>65426359
I'm being serious, show them anything unconventional and chances are it's 'just noise' or some shit and they want it turned off
also nice baseless assertion once again
for instance this is a legitimate expression of primal aggression because it involves talent and finesse
https://youtu.be/NKtoskzi9Pc?t=266
>>65426406
you're the bitter fuck who tried to play your "real music" at a normie party and got laughed at, huh?
you not being able to distinguish the principle further proves it to be a truism
How can I take seriously anybody who unironically uses the word "normies"?
>>65426510
it has a loose definition that absolutely applies
>>65426466
no, I never play my music unless specifically asked by someone to hear what I'm listening to because I know most people don't give a fuck and would just dislike it
while I can't provide you with hard data, were you to show people even basic indie pop type shit most wouldn't be able to appreciate it
>>65426510
to be fair, I'm only using it because it's the term the anon I'm responding to has used
>>65426540
>I know most people don't give a fuck and would just dislike it
so you like it because you're a contrarian
>>65426576
no, because I heard it and enjoyed it
I don't listen to anything based off of what other people think of it unless you count taking recommendations from people
>>65426607
no because you're so consumed in a culture that's naturally contrarian you just don't realize it
also you keep saying you enjoy the music you listen to as if i'm trying to invalidate that
>>65426607
plus you liking music regardless of what other people think is really hard to buy when you're defending one of the most popular bands on /mu/
>>65426659
explain how the culture I'm "so consumed by" is innately ironic then, and how it affected my like of DG even without knowing my situation or whether or not I knew of them before I ever came here
>>65426712
I'm "defending" music I like, which happens to also fit that
Good example of Zach Hill drumming here. If that argument is still happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdMDcG3zAEI
>>65426540
i am the same like this
listening to venetian snares right now, love him but i would never try to show someone venetian snares unless they over-heard and wanted to know more... because most people don't like it.
i actually appreciate the fact that i can like what i like and other people can like what they like and we don't have to listen to each others music because i really hate most popular music.
>>65426819
name me a single meme that's used unironically
and im not saying you don't like it im saying you like it because /mu/ likes it and /mu/ is contrarian just like you
>>65426886
I'm aware I'm agreeing with a post that's agreeing with my post but this is the most sensible approach
>>65426941
literally any meme can be used unironically, just look at fucking spongegar being used all over the place now
and what I'm saying is that you've given no basis as to how I'm contrarian or how DG have somehow innately lost value due to the memeing mentality some shitposters on an anonymous taiwanese knitting forum who happen to also like them
>>65427077
"A contrarian is a person who takes up a contrary position, especially a position that is opposed to that of the majority"
you said you don't like popular music
right it would be different if your scenario was true but this is a board that is designated for the discussion of music and you just so happen to frequent it but you want to talk about it like you're somehow a completely separate entity which you posting right now proves you're not
it doesn't make the music lose value since that would imply the music has value and that it's actually music
2 things that you have yet to prove to me
>>65427477
calling somebody a contrarian generally holds the implication that it's intentional anon, so sorry for assuming you meant the literal definition
as for the last two points, music (like all art) is a construct. the definition I work with is that music is art made from sound. the music has value to me insofar as I enjoy it.
>>65427558
>music (like all art) is a construct
bye
>>65427612
kek, have fun
I was getting bored desu
>>65424324
>using a pay-pay as your ethos for music critique
found the cuck
>>65424053
Their music is moderately okay and I understand why people like them a lot.
>>65425799
>claims to know about music
>thinks lyrics matter
W E W
>>65424562
check out Three Bedrooms in a Good Neighborhood
>>65426834
i feel like i've see this guy before
Holy shit this thread is horrible. Half of the posts are arguing about memes
Where are the parents that should be supervising these children? THIS ISN'T A FUCKING DAYCARE FAGGOTS FUCK OFF
Death grips is like the really intense fetish porn you gravitate to after spending too much time on the internet
>>65431516
nah, I got into death grips pretty quickly after hearing gp
then again I also got into extreme fetish porn on the internet pretty quickly so what can I say
