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Why do you hate Karajan edition
>inb4 how do I into classical
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Cause he's a populist nazi faggot.
>>65366921
jelly little bitch
>found out the largo from the new world contains parallel fifths
>tfw have to hate it now
>>65366851
Because he actively ruined tons of recordings by either meddling in the mixing process
Or just muddied up the orchestral sound way too much and removed any edge from recordings
See: his AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWFUL Rite of Spring
>>65367289
8's the only good one he wrote
>>65367347
Implying 7 isn't god tier
could you post some music with non functional harmony?
>>65367347
yeah 8 is the best dont let anybody say otherwise
>>65369665
>>65370510
>>65371319
Just contribute to the thread. Upload, request, or discover something new here.
>>65371365
I've decided to start listening to classical by listening to the three biggest names I know first, Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven. Should I include other stuff in my initial listening? I'm trying to find the best interpretations of their most important stuff as well.
>>65371409
Maybe some accessible romantic-era stuff like Debussy, Tchaikovsky, and the such.
>>65371431
So far I've really enjoyed Bach's stuff, do you have an recommendations on other good Baroque composers?
>>65366851
Why did the role of the conductor become more and more prominent as classicism began?
rip classical
>>65371490
Start here. I'll get to making the next part someday.
>>65371674
Thanks dude, I can't wait to dig into this.
>>65366851
>Why do you hate Karajan?
Classical doesn't like him because they haven't heard his Madame Butterfly recording.
>>65372286
>Madame Butterfly
Post your charts for the best new compositions for each decade since the 60's
Unless you're too pleb?
>>65372401
Huh? I don't understand. Is this a meme?
>>65371409
Replace Mozart with someone good, like Brahms or Haydn.
>>65372830
>>65372830
Poly, please abscond from here.
>>65371631
Because ensembles got bigger and needed someone to keep them all together
>>65372830
FURTHER
>>65366851
Fact: Karajan was a hack
Fact: Celibidache was the greatest conductor of all time
>Celi: Karajan was an elegant but superficial conductor
>Interviewer: But Karajan is known everywhere in the world
>Celi: So is Coca-Cola
>Interviewer: Karajan, Bernstein, Mehta, Muti?
>Celi: They do not live in my world. I have nothing to do with them. Muti has an extraordinary talent but he is an ignorant, as Toscanini was
>Interviewer: Solti?
>Celi: A fantastic pianist, a musical man, but not a conductor
>Interviewer: Ormandy?
>Celi: How could such a mediocre conductor succeed Stokowski?
You have no right to post here if you don't own his Bruckner cycle.
>>65372907
But why?
>>65373318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLGS4nJy070
>>65373322
Because with 50+ people it's hard to stay in time because music from across the stage takes time to reach you. So if you look at the conductor he can keep you in time.
>>65373454
No I mean why did the ensemble got bigger? More instruments invented?
I like his Tchaikovksky and Beethoven. That might be an unpopular opinion idk
>>65373473
Partly yes, but also because composers wanted to write bigger stuff and because it became viable. Remember in those days most musicians and composers were in the service of a noble so the size of the ensembles and as a result the compositions were limited by how many people the noble could afford. But as public concerts became more common because people could afford tickets it meant ensembles could be bigger.
>>65373318
Now I want to hear that.
>>65373587
That makes sense, but since when did conductor become just "conductor"? Most conductors/directors before the classical era were also virtuosos
>>65374902
That's because most conductors were usually the first violinist or the soloist or something and didn't need to actively conduct as much. There probably wasn't a set time when 'conductor' became separate, it happened gradually starting in Beethoven's time as he and the other proto Romantics started enlarging the orchestra and making bigger stuff.
I hope this isn't your homework.
>>65374998
The fuck was the point of making bigger ensembles? It just obfuscates the harmonies.
>I hope this isn't your homework.
Nah I'm a STEM grad, my homework'd probably go on math.stackexchange. Just interested in art music in general.
>>65375076
Not really, Beethoven couldn't have achieved the sound he did in Eroica with only strings a flute and basso continuo. He needed what he needed, including that third horn. He couldn't have achieved the sound of the 9th with the smaller baroque groups, but despite the orchestra's size the harmonies remain clear as ever, remember not every instrument has to be playing all the time.
>>65375262
Yeah but what does that achieve? What is actually the point of having different timbres in the same piece?
>>65375377
Not him but, textural variety and richness I'd imagine.
>>65375377
Pleasure. Are you autistic? Can't you appreciate the textural differences between instruments?
>>65375431
I just don't see the appeal.
>>65375377
>Are you autistic?
>>65375076
>I'm a STEM grad
Already answered.
>>65375429
Or maybe fullness?
>>65375493
think about the difference between a flute and a violin, why would you want to use a violin over a flute, or a flute over a violin? (disregarding the fact that a violin can play chords/stops and a has a different range etc)
>>65375493
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCydQm83cJQ
Can you not see why the melody at :45 is better suited for the english horn than say an oboe? If not then maybe music isn't for you
>>65373318
This post really sums up why most people have a difficult time taking Classical aficionados seriously.
Stop giving us a bad name, you utterly pretentious faggot
>>65375643
>taking a post with Celi in it seriously
>>65375661
I can't take a single post in this thread seriously.
>Mozart wasn't "good"
>Karajan was a hack
>why are there conductors
Lol
>anons of 4chan, please tell us why one of the most venerable conductors of the 20th century was a hack
>>65375873
I'm guessing you don't know who Poly is. Let me tell you, you're in for a fun ride.
>>65375873
>it's a "newfag comes into the thread uninvited" episode
>>65375939
>I'm guessing you don't know who Poly is.
I do not. Is he the resident Classical snob who makes broad, scathing generalizations about composers whose turds were more important than his entire existence?
>>65376024
Actually yes! He loathes Mozart.
>>65376024
He generally doesn't know what he's talking about at all.
Though /classical/ at large usually memes against Karajan, at least in repertoire before like, Strauss.
>>65375604
Yeah I see what you're saying, but you don't need dozens of each of the instruments to have the sort of variety in timbre you're looking for.
>>65376074
I figured. I used to feel the same way about Mozart until I learned that not all of his pieces were bouncy and jovial. His symphonies tend to sound very monotonous to me, but I enjoy many of them -- for me, it's all about the chamber music... and his Requiem of course.
>>65376083
They don't have dozens. Most classical and romantic symphonies had only 2 each of woodwinds and brass, with 4 horns. Only strings had 12-16 players, and even then only the first violins had that many, but that was necessary so they could be heard at all. Some of Mahler's symphonies have 8 horns and other larger amounts, but his symphonies are some of the biggest in the repetoire.
>>65376075
>memes against Karajan
It makes people feel more erudite and important when they criticize esteemed individuals. I accept that everyone has their preferences and criticisms, but I have a hard time taking someone seriously when they make such hyperbolic statements as "Karajan was a hack"
>>65376074
I actually like Mozart. The only composer I truly loathe is Applebaum, but he's essentially a non-composer anyway.
>>65376024
I'm just a trained composer who lurks these threads. Some people dislike that I enjoy the musica antiqua koln version of art of fugue over the cold, lifeless renditions on modern piano, but that's pretty much the most exciting thing that happens when I post in /classical/
Also I suspect I introduced a lot of 20th century music here, Ferneyhough, Rautavaara, Schnittke, Auerbach etc.
>>65377365
I want to get into some more modern classical stuff. Do you have any suggestions?
>>65377365
Lol. I can't tell if this is a troll post -- I really hope it's not.
>>65377463
Depends what you mean by "modern"
I would start with Stravinsky, Debussy, Strauss and Schoenberg in the early 1900s, then work my way through to modern music via Bartok.
This documentary is great for the discovery of 20th century music, starts at late romantic and works through all the main works and phases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ1wKzdWo4g&list=PLJZmNwgUPr6_Kiega3zBfEGiyfo4YS3Z6
Would highly recommend for anyone interested in modern classical.
>>65377567
Thanks man. Why do people hate you? You seem pretty nice in all the threads I've been in.
>>65377588
eh this is 4chan. anything people can name, people will hate. I often ditch the trip to cause less strife, but I kinda stopped caring. It's also pretty funny to see the torrents of "fuck off poly" whenever anyone disses Mozart or mentions Schnittke, Martinů or Ferneyhough.
>>65373318
kek.
Kleiber wrote a letter in reply to this:
Telex from Toscanini (Heaven) to Celibidache (Munich):
Dear Sergiu!
We have read you in the Spiegel. You get on our nerves, but we forgive you. We have no choice anyway: forgiveness is in style Up Here. Potato-sack Karli made some objection, but after Kna and I had a heart-to-heart with him, he stopped whining.
Wilhelm now all of a sudden insists that he has never even heard of you. Papa Josef, Wolfgang Amadeus, Ludwig, Johannes, and Anton all prefer the second violins on the right and claim that your tempi are all wrong. But actually, they don’t really give a damn about it. Up here, we are not supposed to care a damn about anything. The Boss does not allow it.
An old Zen master who lives next door says you got it all wrong about Zen Buddhism. Bruno is totally cracked up by your comments. I have the suspicion that he secretly shares your views about me and Karli. Maybe you could say something mean about him for a change; otherwise, he feels so left out.
I hate to break it to you, but everybody up here is totally crazy about Herbert. In fact, the other conductors are a little jealous of him. We can’t wait to welcome him up here in fifteen or twenty years. Too bad you can’t be with us then.
But people say that where you will go the cuisine is much better, and the orchestras down there never stop rehearsing. They even make little mistakes on purpose, so that you have a chance to correct them for all eternity.
I’m sure you will like that, Sergiu. Up here, the angels read the composers’ minds. We conductors only have to listen. Only God knows why I’m here.
Have lots of fun,
In old friendship,
Arturo
>>65377924
>Papa Josef, Wolfgang Amadeus, Ludwig, Johannes, and Anton all prefer the second violins on the right and claim that your tempi are all wrong
BTFO
>>65376294
Karajan is not above criticism simply because he was esteemed. He was a talented conductor but simply not the super-conductor which he was marketed out to be.
He had his repertoire that he excelled at, and he had quite a bit of repertoire which he did not do well with (like most other conductors).
In truth, his biggest enemy was probably himself. There are dozens of DG recordings with him which are significantly undermined by his own obsessive manipulation in the post-production of the recordings. In just about every instance, when a live recording from him is available, it is probably vastly preferable to that of his studio recordings simply because the latter is often drenched in so much artificiality (this is especially true in the 70s-80s era recordings from him. less so for the recordings that came before, but it is still applicable in some cases)
>>65377957
Funnily enough though, that exact criticism can be applied to Karajan in some instances in regards to tempi, and ALL instances in regards to orchestral seating, since Karajan never put second violins on the right.
The positive relationship between Carl and Herbie is pretty interesting. Their styles were very different in my opinion.
>>65366851
Is celtic considered classical?
>>65378190
>there are dozens of DG recordings with him which are significantly undermined by his own obsessive manipulation in the post-production of the recordings
So do you feel the same way about Glenn Gould's records?
>>65378426
If something is written by a trained composer, and intended for live performance from a written score in the concert hall, it is classical. If not, it aint.
>>65378498
I don't listen to much of Gould, but I remember his recordings being incredibly dry. And, uh, that's about it.
>>65378545
I completely agree. Although his Goldberg Variations are undeniably one of the greatest recordings of all time.
>>65378617
I like his early stuff the best. Mostly the live. There is a fierce BWV 1052 with him and Mitropoulos. And also the Moscow/Salzburg performances are great.
>>65378693
Listening to the Gould/Mitropolous right now -- "fierce" is definitely how I'd describe it.
does anybody know of some early cello recordings? i've listened to many early violin recordings by joachim, sarasate, etc which i've enjoyed, and i've listened to a few cello recordings but they were made a bit later (20's~)
>>65379421
Casals made some acoustic recordings I believe. Dunno where they've been issued on CD.
Pearl has a set for early recordings of cello as well but I'm not sure how far it goes back.
>>65377365
what the fuck was /classical/ doing to have not heard of Ferneyhough and Schnittke before you?
>>65380048
He's lying to inflate his massive ego
you have infinite time to name a good British composer
>>65380171
britten
>>65380171
White, Browne.
>>65367289
how are parallel fifth 'forbidden'? I'm sure Dvorak knew about the effect of parallel fifth and used them carefully. You can do everything if you're knowing what you're doing. If you like the special sounds of open parallel fifth, why the hell would you not play them just because of a counterpoint suggestion?
>>65371674
>>65371765
I think there's Heinrich Schuetz missing, he's one of the greatest
>>65380171
Fayrfax, Tallis, Tavener, Byrd, Gibbons, Holst, Purcell, Bax, Delius, PMD, Ferneyhough, Tippett, Rutter, Elgar, Finnissy.
>>65380171
David Bowie
>>65380171
Sullivan, Purcell, Britten, Sorabji, the list could continue forwards..
why is it that the baroque period is superior to every form of western art music that succeeded it? everything else is either faux-avant garde or glorified lounge music.
Is classical good music? And where should I start in those mega links?
>>65381435
It's the best music I've heard. I'd start with the first mega link and find your favorite recordings among that one before moving on to the others.
>>65380171
Handel
>>65381688
good one, more like Händel
But there's still Purcell and Dowland, and The Planetes by Holst are very good too
>>65380171
JC Bach
>>65381435
>is classical music good music
the question should be, if music is defined as art of forming sound aesthetically, is there any other music?
>>65377924
Wow that's dripping with buttmad and impotent squeaker rage.
I've heard Metalheads say more emotionally mature things.
>>65383307
I thought it was a tongue in cheek response to a ridiculous assertion. Which is about all it deserves.
>>65381435
Yeah, it's pretty good music.
I would also recommend starting with the first mega link. Go for the big names, Beethoven, Mozart and Bach first.
these threads just go to show why i don't listen to classical music. if you pretentious faggots like it there must be something wrong
soon I'm seeing a performance of Mussorgsky's Night on Bald Mountain, excerpts from Prokofiev's Romeo & Juliet, and Rach's 2nd.
I'm pretty fucking excited.
>>65384217
>judging music based on the fanbase on /mu/
suit yourself
>>65384584
it's not just /mu/. every fan of this type of music i've met is a boxed wine swilling wannabe who is desperately trying, and failing, to be cultured. probably like you do.
>>65384621
you've never met the extremely normal old folks at classical concerts? they're like the definition of charming old people, just want to hear some Beethoven. Maybe try going to more concerts and caring less about what you read on /mu/. Go to some concerts and enjoy the music, instead of trying to put people down on an anonymous image board.
>tfw the likes of Gascogne, Apenzeller, Bauldeweyn and Courtois will never get the recognition they deserve
Even Richafort has his meme requiem.
Reminder that Glenn Gould said he liked this and that it was congruent with Bach's fundamental ideas about music.
Reminder that Glenn Gould is the real Bernstein.
>>65386005
>someone who could be more romantic playing bach on a harpsichord than schiff tickling beethoven's feces on a piano
>>65385931
>trans-electronic
muh sides XDDD
Can someone list ALL of Bach sad/spooky pieces? Literally all of them?
>>65386554
Good rule of thumb is all the pieces with the even BWV numbers.
Also, a reminder that this exists and that it's fantastic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu2A1NMZLss
>tfw 2:53
>>65366851
i love herbie. especially in sibelius, r.strauss & wagner.
>>65387992
>i love herbie
>>65388071
what is this picture supposed to convey please?
>>65388099
A cheating whore
>>65388099
laughter
Bump
Reminder that Karajan has the best recording of Mozart's horn concertos.
so how is this jap fuck?
>>65390431
The one on Hyperion last year BTFO of it
Also
>Karajan EVER for Mozart
>>65390670
It's mostly good because of Brain.
>>65390431
>Karajan
>Mozart
yuck
>>65384336
By the MSO?
I think I'm going go go see them doing the Brahms violin concerto. Super happy since that piece is one of my favorites.
>>65392323
>>65390670
Who does Mozart well?
Also, period instruments for Mozart, yay nay?
>>65392623
>Who does Mozart well?
E. Kleiber, Krips, Beecham, F. Busch, Fricsay, somethimes Harnoncourt, Mackerras.
Give me modern classical to buy /classical/.
>>65392623
this guy nailed it >>65392759
and NO PERIOD INSTRUMENTS for post-Baroque
>>65392623
period instruments for everthing
including 20th century works
>>65392967
>NO PERIOD INSTRUMENTS for post-Baroque
But Staier's Mozart is really good.
>>65392999
so is Bilson's but it's still heresy
Why the hell do you guys make fun of gigues? Bach has tones of great gigues
You guys ever think Bach tried to do an emotional cycle as well as a key cycle in the Well Tempered Clavier? A lot of different feelings come up in the different pieces and it's obviously not just sad & happy, you think that was intentional? Do you think it would be possible to list them from Saddest to Happiest and all the emotions in between?
>>65393566
They're all in different styles, they were effectively character pieces.
>>65393715
oh yeah, especially the preludes I see that, but the emotion behind them as well
>>65390636
Good Messiaen.
>>65380171
Purcell
>>65392999
>>65393021
That recording is GOAT
>Limiting yourself to no period instruments
>not listening to both
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKcNZYlH6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDBWHs43IzE
music is shit desu.
people are assholes.
everything sucks.
Bach is the anime of classical music
>>65395759
How do you mean?
>>65395793
In the sense that he's bored but not sufficiently imaginative to shitpost well.
>>65395793
>>65395816
Yeah it looks like you were right. How lazy. >>65395828
>>65395882
t. proud owner of Glenn Gould box set
>>65395908
I have his version of the Goldberg Variations. That's about it. Could you try harder? I like a good shitpost but what you're giving me is really lame.
>>65395938
I'm not shitposting though. Please respect my opinions.
>>65396020
You haven't really stated any, you just posted a meme picture that comes with the typical over simplified descriptions of something you don't like. I can't respect something that isn't even there. I'm bored too man, entertain me.
>>65396050
are you cute?
"Well, it can't get any worse than this," I said to Virgil as we surveyed the horrors of the Ninth Ring. Drops of lava were falling around us. To our right, Lucifer lay waist deep in ice, gnashing away on the gizzards of Brutus, Cassius and Judas Iscariot. Virgil looked around guardedly.
"Don't let out this trade-secret, but there's actually a Tenth Ring - or room rather. It sits under Satan's `sewage pipe'. It houses the most notorious SBL of all time."
I raised an eyebrow questioningly. The acronym was new to me.
"SBL - Smug Bach Lover. Most of them have beards that are a fire-hazard in summer; they hang around organ lofts, wear cardigans and sneer at Italian opera. But this guy is virulent - like a Satan Bug. He committed a crime that was so gross that both God and Lucifer acted in unison."
"Who on earth is it?"
"Glenn Gould - or Glenn Ghoul as his adversaries call him."
"He's down there?" I asked. Virgil nodded.
"What crime did he commit?"
"Sure, Gould made that derogatory comment on Mozart - that the composer died too late rather than too soon - but have you ever heard his survey of the piano sonatas? They're an abomination. Mozart's sonatas are creations of their time. They have their own chemistry. If you have the intestinal fortitude, listen to - but do not buy - his cycle. Not a movement goes by wherein the Ghoulster does not try to broadcast their lack of counterpoint from his SBL perspective. I cannot see how anyone who cares one iota for Mozart would countenance such vandalism."
>>65396077
Virgil led me over to a trapdoor and pulled out a key. We trooped down a long shaft. Another door came into view. With effort, my guide swung it open and we walked into a brightly lit studio.
A Steinway was located in the middle of the room. Glenn Gould sat behind it. He looked very 1981-ish and thus bore resemblance to Wolfman Jack. As was his custom, he had lowered his chair so that his hands were arched above the keyboard. Glenn did not notice our intrusion. He was endlessly repeating one study - over and over and over again.
"What on earth is he playing?" I whispered.
"It's an exercise in Alberti Bass - that's his punishment. Until he expiates his sins against Mozart, it won't stop."
"But Amazon is still selling the wretch cycle and it's making new converts by the day. Every time someone perpetuates his error, it makes it all the harder for GG to be absolved of his conceit. Me, I don't understand why people chose him in preference to Mozart: The Piano Sonatas [Box Set], Mozart: Piano Sonatas, Vol. 1 or Mozart: Complete Piano Sonatas; they want to glorify Mozart, not submit him to a polyphonic rack!"
"Then the punishment won't stop until Judgement Day and perhaps beyond."
We left the Ghoulster to his doom. His fate, dear reader, is your hands.
>>65396075
Not really, I'm pretty fat. I've lost 30 pounds in the past couple months though. I'll let you know when I'm presentable, my prince.
>>65392623
Colin Davis, Charles Mackerras, E. Kleiber, Ingmar Bergman
post-baroque period instruments bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCPDqNGpg8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxFglVWtzE0&index=10
>>65397123
karajan lol
this is the only thing karajan is good for
There is ONE situation where Karajan is the ONLY good recording I have heard
https://youtu.be/O32PuoBWKC0?t=39
EVERYONE FUCKING RUINS THIS MARCH BY TAKING IT LIKE 80
BERLIOZ WAS HIGH ON OPIUM YOU CAN'T TRUST HIS TEMPOS
OK OK levine also gets it right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScZDA8YOrNc
Who's your favorite Haynd conductor(s)?
>>65398737
Beethoven
another post-baroque period instruments bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWbCXgR9mik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cckoshv--MU
another FUCKING post-baroque period instruments bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBfOl_smrFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvwpIg4tdcM
why does everyone hate karajan
is /classical/ full of hipster faggots like the rest of this board?
>>65400244
>>65400676
>post-Baroque
Why?
>>65398737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU0Ubs2KYUI
lenny's eyebrows
>>65397195
>only thing
no one does schumann better though
>>65401223
>lel so randum look mum no hands lololXddxdxdxxdd!1!@1!
RIP Christopher Hogwood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHhGicDN9nI
>>65395759
He's been around for a long time and has covered most of the stories you can think of?
>>65402194
now THIS is a shitpost
is there a bigger meme composer?
>muh withdrawn early works
>>65402404
>le double
Even his compositions are shitposts
>>65402404
Meme composer performed by a meme conductor
>>65402404
>is there a bigger "non genetic idea passed from person to person" composer?
I dont think you're using that word correctly
Dutilleux is great.
>>65371674
No Telemann?
>>65403846
Read the chart again. Carefully this time.
Listening to the Great C major in bed with a pepsi. AMA.
>>65404005
Have you ever pleasured your prostate?
>>65404014
Who hasn't?
>>65404005
Are you cut?
>>65404005
How did you discover /mu/ and what is your opinion of it?
In thwthe 3rd movement trio now
>>65404014
Not while masturbating
>>65404240
Yes
>>65404268
Discovered it with the rest of 4chan. Overall it's pretty shit but like with anything there are moments of good.
>>65404436
>Overall it's pretty shit but like with anything there are moments of good.
Are you ESL?
>>65404491
English second language? No
>>65404166
I dunno, man. I try to tell people the wonders of diddling the thing but they always get antsy once they realize stuff is going up your ass.
They look at me and go, "Dude, that's gay."
They just don't understand.
>>65404521
I never understood people that think stimulating one of the most sensitive and pleasurable parts of a man is gay. Is jacking off gay now as well? Ffs
>>65404436
>Yes
dropped
>>65404689
I actually misread the question and thought it asked if I was uncut.
>>65404738
Picked up again
pls be in melbourne
homosexuality is not allowed here
>>65404997
Tchaikovsky was gay
>>65404997
>implying /classical/ isn't an LGBTQ+ safe space
>>65404997
homosexuality should not be allowed anywhere
>parallel thirds
>>65404752
I live in Wagga Wagga
>parallel runs of any kind
>>65405488
Literally every composition ever has those
>>65405663
Literally every composition ever has those
(samefag)
>>65404997
Aaron Copland was gay.
>>65405859
Not true. Bach's Canon with invertible counterpoint at the 10th has no parallel runs of any kind, since 3rds and 6ths invert to 5ths and 8ths. Every interval in that piece is approached via contrary or oblique motion.
>>65404997
Mozart was gay.
>>65406026
*is
>>65406026
[FURTHER PROOF INTENSIFIES]
>>65405908
not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQY2dS1Srk
after the tied dotted eighth at 40:20 (420 lol) those 16ths move parallel to each other
(assuming we are talking about the same canon)
>>65406178
That's the simple canon with the invertible counterpoint at the 8ve at 40:20, anon. The one I'm talking about starts at 48 min. Apart from the minor slip up in pic related, I don't think it contains any other parallel intervals.
>>65406246
yeah see still contains parallel motion, laaame
>>65406136
He had tourette though. You can tell by the way he wrote his letters (yes tourette happens while writing).
http://www.neurologienetz.de/front_content.php?idart=395
>>65406354
The original greentext asked for parallel "runs". It has to be at least three notes in thirds for it to be considered a run. Therefore as the piece stands it still doesn't contain parallel runs of any kind. if you're that autistic you can just switch the order of the a and b-flat and you will end up with a piece that literally has no parallel motion of any kind.
>>65406403
IMO runs are at least 2 notes
how do i get into buxtehude
>>65406495
Try listening to his music.
>>65407073
which recordings is what i'm asking you funny mother fucker you
>>65406075
extremely underrated post
