https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_mQiL19XmI
post ya fav variations
Probably outdated links:
>General folder. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes Bach and Mozart subfolders
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
The best of the Goldberg Variations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCuALWK6ZNg
Are there any great composers that weren't theoretical geniuses or classically trained?
>>65145068
Jean-Jacques Rousseau comes to mind as he was more of a philosopher than a professional composer.
>>65145068
Not really. The prerequisite of being a classical composer is being classically trained.
Mussorgsky might be an example, but even he was tutored by some excellent composers, and his orchestration is a fucking shambles, you can really tell he was an amateur.
>>65145068
I guess the first one, in accordance to the great thinker of our time Hopsin.
Why is there no classical as good as Wagner?
I'll wait.
>>65146092
Listen to the entire ring cycle and then report back on how "good" you think Wagner is
>>65146166
>that one guy who really hates the ring cycle
It isn't really that slow. The actual story and orchestration goes pretty fast.
>>65144228
>Theme and Variations Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJGHY7x2ric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ3pj_XdZ60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrSo0kopF90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arsrK8yWNhE
>>65146092
Because he overshadowed everyone else and forced them into his mold, as opposed to Brahms who attempted to articulate abstract ideas for their own sake and without such a polemical bent. Wagner was like the Phil Collins of the Romantic Era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ZvLTzMpZ4
Is this unequal temperament?
am I a classical plen if blue danube waltz is my favorite piece, or would you guys admit that it's lit as fuck.
>>65147953
It's very entry core but a good piece none the less.
>>65146246
not saying I hate it, its a masterpiece, but there are other operas as good, if not better than the ring.
Post things that trigger pitchfriends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9WPfkXQa_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMmXRpcztIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7vZURdhucM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F83DtE2JPwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaYaXpyRjbc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baDySdd8lqs
>>65149978
underrated post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbLw2Mfa2NA
You are now aware that this exists.
Are there any instruments that you wish would have made it into the standard orchestra but didn't or vice versa?
>>65151069
>you wish would have made it into
Glass harmonica, gongs, bigger woodwinds instead of brass.
>vice versa
Strings - disgusting timbre - hollow, small, muddy, almost no bass, and it only gets worse the more strings you have. The worst Western instruments by far.
>>65151305
It *would* be fun to listen to a wind symphony.
>tfw working on variations right now
Why is this so hard lads
I can't find the source and details of this recording, care to lend a hand?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWpazUWjNw
I'm assuming it's listed here but it's still leading me to a lof of dead ends and I'm obviously not Polish.
https://www.usc.edu/dept/polish_music/PMJ/issue/5.2.02/stojowskiworks.html
>>65151069
The kazoo and the didgeridoo deserve their spot in the orchestra family.
>>65145068
Yes, me.
>>65146166
Post some Wagner.
>inb4 opera
>>65152173
post your work
>>65152173
Because variations are inherently formalist.
>>65145068
they were all classically trained, hence classical composer
>>65147786
I believe its werckmeister III I could be mistaken though
>>65152173
post something or the original maybe ill try it out too
COME HOME WHITE MAN
>>65149978
the Hába Sonata is the weirdest one because in a few sections it almost sounds like tonality has been estabilished only to have chaos quickly following it up
Not at all a fan or listener to classical here, but goddamn this little gem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EgbuyVivKs
>>65154256
why this post?
>>65154256
>mallclassical
>>65154256
>take thematically driven classic piece
>turn it into background music
>normies love it
now this is minimalism!
>>65154256
At least post the only one that isn't boring
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q0DSnxHYu9Y
>>65154581
That's a good one too but Autumn 3 is my standout because it has some really sweet harmonics, something that seems totally b& in classical music. Grieg has some so he's alright, but classic is just dead on that front apart from him. Glass has a lot but he's neowhatevs and isn't even relevant to the thread.
>>65149978 was at least interesting to listen to... everything else itt has been plain af.
>>65154932
>really sweet harmonics, something that seems totally b& in classical music
what do you mean by this?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=w-AEzxkRWBA
Sorry senpai but this is one of my favorite theme and variation pieces
>>65154932
you're a giant fucking pleb please stop posting anytime
>>65151535
For real though, listen to some of the big ones here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f51yPfhQZn8
Why would anyone choose the BRRT-PRRRT-FRRHRHRHRTHP brass over those?
>>65151535
Persichetti 6
Hindemith Symphony in Bb
Giannini 3
Maslanka 4
Those are the only wind symphonies anyone actually cares about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwZcRVxS8iA
How do pitchfriends rationalize the fact that one of Bach's most famous pieces has a ton of beating in it not to mention a harmonic major second? Probably as much beating per minute as your average early Scriabin piece.
>muh ear-splitting teeth-gnashing excruciating torturous aural guantanamo such out of tune wow l2p fag like is this a joke hahahahhh
Shut the fuck up.
>>65155582
Whoops, forgot Stravinsky
>>65155584
are you actually retarded?
>>65155584
>a harmonic major second
you realize the dominant and minor 7th chords have this interval right?
Also what your thinking of in the piece is the Cmaj7 and the Fmaj7 in third inversion, which contain MINOR second intervals with the bass, not major seconds.
minor second intervals arent anything special, i dont know who your suggesting thinks they are
microtonal music (if thats what your talking about) contains even smaller intervals than the m2, not that it matters...
is there no safe place for music on this earth?
>>65155779
Is there any difference between the wah-wah-wah in Bach's music and the wah-wah-wah in any other composer's music?
>>65155612
which stravinsky
I cried tears of joy recently after listening to the fourth movement of Beet's 9th Symphony.
>>65155584
>2016
>i just realized bach was ahead of his time harmonically
wow show me the way anon
>>65155825
>>65155907
So why have people not dumped buckets of shit in Bach's mouth like they have done with every single fucking composer who dared to incorporate even incidental beating in their music?
>>65144228
So you're saying this is a Mauro Giuliani thread?
He is the absolute master after all.
>>65156002
which composers do you mean?
>>65156014
All of them.
>>65156033
Name some.
>>65156033
like every single composer? What are you talking about? Who has ever flamed mozart for using a dissonant chord?
>>65155855
Symphonies for Wind Instruments
>>65156125
Everyone from Mozart to Debussy has been accused of "discord".
Chopin's music - which is literally based on perfect fourths and fifths - has been described as "ear-splitting" and as containing "musical grimaces" by his contemporaries, even though I don't think he ever wrote a single piece with as much continuous beating as that Bach prelude.
>>65156128
Have to have dissonance to accent consonance.
Even a dominant 7th rather dissonant given the relationship between the major 3rd and 7th scale degree is an augmented 4th.
I would hope no one is jumping down anyone's throats for using something that accents the beautiful passages in music.
>>65156220
>Everyone from Mozart to Debussy has been accused of "discord"
Yeah maybe in like the 18th-19th century. Anyone who complains about dissonance in classical/romantic music now is probably trolling.
>>65155584
I really hate Gould's interpretations.
Can not stand them.
>>65156264
So...why was Bach spared?
>>65156281
I dunno, write a paper on it
>>65155858
Not having to listen to it any more must feel amazing.
Is there any spooky counterpoint?
>Scriabin
Kind of, anything else?
test
>>65156564
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QwFMn2rPvqc
Probably some Hindemith. His Ludus Tonalis seems like something that has it but I have listened to it.
>>65156792
>be me
>see the word "ligeti"
>prepare my sphincter for spicy memetics
>mfw it's actually a cohesive substantial piece of music not rooted in pointless extremism
I'm impressed.
>>65155584
That sounds fucking atrocious on piano.
>>65156875
The spicy memetics are in the previous 10 parts
>>65144228
Will musical borrowing ever reach the sophistication of a mid-16th century parody mass ever again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf8Ij8trJh8
>>65154379
"But there's nothing pretentious about John Cage at all. He's one of the most important musicians and musical thinkers of the past 100 years." - CLT, Sep. 2012
"I have 15 slots currently reserved for academic/art composers too. Currently
Luciano Berio
John Cage
Tony Conrad
Pierre Henry
Hugh Le Caine
Darius Milhaud
Harry Partch
Steve Reich
Terry Riley
Pierre Schaeffer
Raymond Scott
Karlheinz Stockhausen
Morton Subotnick
Edgard Varèse
La Monte Young" - CLT, Dec. 2012
hello, classical music nerds.
What are some really dark/spooky themed piano pieces?
>>65159163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cnyfET1lE
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>tfw interplay of motifs resembling hypnagogic states
Pitchfriends don't even know how sophisticated this is.
Are Stokowski's Bach transcriptions good?
>>65155584
Who goes around complaining about fucking major second intervals? There are even some in the little fugue g minor which is supposedly the most solid, perfect fugue ever
nothing wrong with those, Bach's musical ideas and shape is easily complex enough to warrant the use of 2nds
>>65156281
Bach was spared because his music wasn't popular at all then, only a select few studied him, slowly he has emerged as the GOAT but in his time and for quite some time afterwards he was seen as an organ maestro first and foremost
that's what makes me wish I had seen him play his own pieces that much more, imagine his own versions of his music at his height being probably the best player in the world
>>65154256
>>65159123
wow I'm fucking vomiting
>>65160862
>pic related "fuck richter"
>>65145068
Telemann. Self taught.
Bump
Hofmann or Godowsky?
are there any historical sources that actually show Richter was gay. or was it just an open secret?
>>65166640
posting handsome artist
>>65159163
debussy books of preludes (i recommend michelangeli)
pretty much anything by schoenberg
Total pleb here looking for recommendations.
I love:
Aaron Copland - Appalachian Spring
Dvorák - Symphony No. 9
Brahms - Symphony No. 4
Dohnányi - Piano Concerto No. 1
Beethoven - Symphony No. 9
Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 1 & 2
>>65168144
>Aaron Copland
Try Rodeo. That's one of my favorites of his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsReWx9XdNs
>>65156564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qemDvtQXLYA
>tfw you realise Obrecht quotes 7 bars from the English anonymous Caput mass in his own Caput mass
How have I not noticed this before
>>65151069
>Viola da gamba
>Viola d'amore
>>65154256
Fuck off you retard holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgNw3Yad5Q
best soviet componist
>>65168144
Listen to Mozart
>>65171698
Any specific recommendations? He has written a lot which has all been performed a lot.
>>65171768
>>65171768
The piano concertos.
Also a ton of good performances of these, pic is nice and if you're ok with old recording meme sound Edwin Fischer is great as well.
>>65171792
>>65171787
thanks.
>>65149978
>quartertone
>microtone
JUST
