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Thoughts?
>>64752333
8/10 has some weak/filler tracks.
pic related is their real masterpiece
>>64752376
AHM suite is all filler, and Alan's Psychedelic breakfast was just kind of okay. As a result, three fourths of the album is just kind of okay. The other three songs are really good, though.
As for meddle, it's my personal favorite floyd album. Echoes can't be beat.
>>64752376
I never got why /mu/ loved that album so much. It's got some good tracks but it's not Floyd's best by a long shot.
I guess /mu/ can't like popular artists without glorying their worst releases, I bet you fags think the studio version of Ummagumma is top tier too.
>>64752814
What's wrong with Ummagumma? It's a band searching what music they want to do after the departure of Syd. I think it's a really amazing album
True Pink Floyd fans enjoy Ummagumma.
>>64752898
>No True Scotsman
>>64752898
I liked Ummagumma, but the live side is way, way better than the studio tracks.
>>64752776
>AHM suite is all filler
I urge you to try it again
>Alan's Psychedelic breakfast was just kind of okay
although I disagree, I empathize with this point of view because I do see where you're coming from.
>Echoes can't be beat.
It's one of PF's 10/10 tracks
>>64752814
I actually am not kidding, I think Piper is "good", and the studio side of Ummagumma is an amateurish, unlistenable mess. I also think Floyd were at their best 73-79
Echoes is Pink Floyd's best song.
The thing I can't understand about post-Syd pre-DSOTM Floyd: They thought Vegetable Man and Scream thy Last Scream were to weird to release and evidence of Syd's demise, but then they put out stuff like Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast and Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict. What the fucks with that? Syd's solo albums are both better and more normal than what they were doing at the same time.
>>64752376
You're a fuckin' idiot. A bunch of half baked ideas all pulled together rather poorly under the auspices of Ron Geesin.
Talk about filler.
Fat Old Sun is a good track though.
Just listened to Echoes. Definitely one of the best songs ever made IMO
>>64753067
Dude I also just listened to it for the first time this morning
>>64753049
>a bunch of half baked ideas
"no"
>>64753043
After Syd left they didn't really know what they were doing. AHM was when they started refocusing instead of trying to continue their sound they had with Syd. It's why the studio side of Ummagumma sounds like a mess and why AHM felt very experimental compared to some of their stuff with Syd.
That said, Meddle is still a personal 10/10 for me.
>>64753043
the difference between Syd and the rest of the band is that Syd can actually write good psychedelic/experimental songs, where as the rest are better at writting prog tracks. See how they kinda fell down a little with ASoS and Ummagumma when Syd left them (not saying that they're bad or anything)
>>64752946
I don't make a distincton, when i talk about Ummagumma i'm talking about both discs.
Anyway regarding Pink Floyd this is how i rank their albums:
Piper 8/10
Saucerful 7/10
More 5/10
Ummagumma 9/10
AHM 8/10
Meddle 10/10
Obscured 6/10
DSOTM 8/10
WYWH 8/10
Animals 10/10
The Wall 7/10
TFC 5/10
MLOR 3/10
Division Bell 4/10
Endless River 2/10
Yes it's one of my favorite bands, so obviously i'm biased.
>>64753197
>I don't make a distincton
So you don't notice it at all when the great live recordings are replaced by some amateurs trying to sound like Floyd?
Meddle and Atom Heart Mother are their best albums. They both show a good balance of exploration and ambition without turning pompous like they did later on.
As for which one is better, I'd go with Meddle. The songs are more modest than in AHM, but Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast always felt a bit off to me. And Echoes is my absolutely favorite Pink Floyd track ever.
>>64753197
Piper 8/10
Saucerful 7/10
More 8/10 (personal reasons)
Ummagumma 5/10
Atom Heart Mother 10/10
Meddle 8/10
Obscured 7/10
Dark Side 9/10
WYWH 9/10
Animals 9/10
The Wall 7/10
TFC 6/10
AMLoR 4/10
Division Bell 7/10
Endless River 3/10
They are my favorite band - so definitely biased.
>>64753162
I understand all of that. What I don't get is why they didn't release Vegetable Man and Scream thy Last Scream if the ummagumma AHM was considered publishable. Heck, why haven't they STILL released them.
You have no idea how glad I am that we've had a Pink Floyd thread that hasn't resorted to people (badly) citing Scaruffi and talking about how good Piper is.
ECHOES WOULD BE BETTER WITHOUT THE FIVE MINUTES OF EAR-PIERCING NOISE IN THE MIDDLE
>>64753096
ddue
>>64753289
Same except switch the ranks for Animals and The Wall
Yes the wall is my favorite album of theirs. Fight me
>>64753406
You mean the bird call segment?
I honestly kind of like that whole section.
>>64753406
>can't into noise
>being this pleb
>current year
meme
>>64752376
All of side 2 is filler
>>64753498
The Wall gets disproportionate hate.
It's not even that bad if you think of it as a separate rock opera/concept thing. It's actually got some extremely good pop songs.
>>64753503
It builds tension before Gilmour's guitar bursts through towards the 18 minute mark. Kinda like the noodling on Starless by KC before the melody comes back at the end.
>>64753558
that's a funny way to spell "none"
nah though Fat Old Sun is an objectively great rock song
>>64753558
I'm triggered.
>>64753571
The Wall gets hate here for a couple reasons.
>It's popular
>It's essentially Waters's solo album, Gilmour, Mason, and Wright had pretty much no creative input
>It's popular
>It's kind of a shift from their more progressive stuff into the realm of pop
>It's Floyd's most popular album bar Dark Side
>Edgy teenagers like it
>>64753571
If you listen to Thin Ice to Another pt 2 without stop it's one of the best bridges between art and music that's fun to listen to
>>64753695
Also the lyrics.
>>64753558
>tfw you're the only one on /mu/ who likes Summer '68
>>64753695
>Edgy teenagers like it
I mean this is the ultimate reason why, but I can't disagree
when I was an edgy teen, I LOVED the wall
>>64753741
Fantastic song.
>>64752333
The second half is better than the first.
>>64752376
8/10 is my rating precisely. Atom Heart Mother is definitely their early masterwork, but I think Dark Side-Animals is their holy trinity.
>>64753804
>Atom Heart Mother is definitely their early masterwork, but I think Dark Side-Animals is their holy trinity.
I wouldn't even disagree. Those three records are golden.
>>64752333
Echoes is a beautiful piece of music.
333 is beautiful set of trips
>>64753406
That part is essential, thanks to the contrast the next part is what I'd call one of the greatest moments in music ever recorded.
>>64753901
>>64753741
I think it's a fantastic song as well. Very catchy, What i don't like are the lyrics, but i can easily overlook them.
>>64753945
I fucking love the lyrics
really reminds me of meeting girls you'd never see again during british summertimes
>>64753558
Not in the slightest. One member of Pink Floyd - I forget who - said that Atom Heart Mother and Meddle are similar in that the second half on both those albums is the best. I personally think Atom Heart Mother is great from start to finish.
I don't understand how anybody could seriously enjoy Pink Floyd in 2016
>>64754062
Because the meme that Pink Floyd is some "bland" or "vanilla" band is outdated, and we realised that not all art music is harsh noise or free jazz
>>64754062
I don't understand how anyone could seriously enjoy music in current year.
>>64754062
Get over it hipster. PF was experimenting decades before you're faggy art bands and anco were even an idea
>>64754062
Pink Floyd were the original Animal Collective.
>>64754328
I personally love both
>>64754341
Me too.
>>64754328
>>64754341
these
when I first got into anco i noticed some neat parallels between the two bands (was already a huge pf fan)
good shit all aruound
>>64753197
>>64753289
Maybe I should listen to it again but WYWH never seemed to strike a chord with me, I never got into it
>>64754582
It does admittedly rely a lot on atmospherics, but the almost ambient stuff along with Rick Wright's icy keyboards are fucking mellow as shit. Plus it's melodically solid as hell
>>64753197
>>64753289
The Piper At the Gates of Dawn - 5/10
A Saucerful of Secrets - 7/10
More - 6/10
Ummagumma - 8/10
Atom Heart Mother - 9/10
Meddle - 8/10
Obscured by Clouds - 7/10
The Dark Side of the Moon - 10/10
Wish You Were Here - 10/10
Animals - 10/10
The Wall - 6/10
The Final Cut - 4/10
A Momentary Lapse of Reason - 3/10
The Division Bell - 5/10
The Endless River - 4/10
>>64754713
>the wall 6/10
u fucking wot
>>64754713
dae the wall is overplayed and popular and therefore bad
>>64754899
>>64754788
what the fuck? are you guy seriously defending "muh dad died in the war" buttrock
>>64754713
Yeah something like that
>>64754922
Literally 45 seconds of the album mentions this and it's done well. Try harder
People which don't enjoy the Wall too much: Watch the film.
It really helps you listen to it with a different perspective afterwards.
I didn't enjoy the Wall that much and i still think it has some fillers in there. It's nice to listen to from time to time, but far from their best.
>>64755024
it's still incredibly boring for Pink Floyd's standards. It's overly long, has a weak concept that isn't actually that deep or meaningful if you spend more than 10 seconds thinking about, and at least half of the songs are completely disposable musically.
Still, it's not a bad album, it has a few great songs and is very ambitioius. 6/10 is about right. A 7 would also be reasonable.
>>64755093
this.
the album is pushing a 7 maybe
whereas the film is literally about an 8 or 9
>>64754582
I didn't enjoy it that much as well. But then clicked i guess.
I don't rate higher because i don't really enjoy Shine on you crazy diamond pt 2.
>>64755107
I guess that's true, but the other half of the songs are nothing short of incredible.
>>64754899
I can't believe people on here actually defend it. The album is pretentious by definition. It assumes all this importance that it lacks. It's a generic, boring, shitty pop rock album that thinks it's amazing.
>>64754922
Thats like the first 1/4th of the album, I get its mediocre, but please put your trip back on proge.
Anyway
Piper - 6/10
Saucerful - 7/10
More - 5/10
Ummagumma 6/10
Atom Heart Mother - 6/10
Meddle - 9/10 (Fucking Seamus really does stop this from being their best
Obscured by Clouds - 6/10
Dark Side of the Moon - 9/10
Wish You Were Here - 8/10
Animals - 8/10
The Wall - 5/10
The Final Cut - 2/10
Momentary Lapse - 4/10
Division Bell - 4/10
Endless River - 3/10
Tbh senpai Echoes could have been extended a bit and made into it's own album (split up or as a single, whatever)
>>64755189
You could say it lacks Richard Wright in there. It has fillers, so it's a very incosistent album, i agree with that. Generic? pretentious? really?! how so?
Generic is Kansas or Marilion which ride the wave of prog rock being fashionable to make money.
Echoes makes the album, I know that's gonna make me sound like a pleb but I DGAF. The fucking album is mediocre up to echoes, which is a fucking masterpiece
>>64755497
>He dosen't like One of These Days + A Pillow of Winds + Fearless, one of the best 3 song sequences of all time
o am I laffin
>>64755497
>mediocre
nah
Meddle for me it's simply perfect from start to finish. I must have heard it more than 100 times, it never tires me.
I love the album. Not a fan of Seamus, but it's only around 2 minutes long so eh
>>64752376
also good.
>>64756988
forgot pic, Meddle era David Gilmour
>>64752376
thats not umaguma thought
Seamus isn't that terrible in my personal opinion, but I can definitely see where you all are coming from. What I really have to disagree with is that AMLOR is consistently getting 3/10. I personally like it, all the songs are good except for a new machine parts 1 and 2.
>great-grandad rock
fuck me, what a shithole this forum is
>>64758099
>music quality should be judged by its age
Let's burn everything Chopin did then
Syd > the rest of PF
Fight me
>there are people on this boards RIGHT NOW who only like Meddle for side 2
Holy shit, when did this board turn so reddit?
The Wall isn't THAT bad. Sure, a lot of disc 2 is filler, but even on disc 2 there's some good shit.
>>64752333
One of their best imo
>>64758397
Syd Barrett and Pink Floyd are two completely different things, but I've found that if you're a fan of one, you're often not a fan of the other. I think it's a result of them being associated the way they are. It's like if Tiny Tim led Swans on their first album.
>>64753043
Syd's solo albums are complete shit.
>>64758823
Better than Roger Waters' concept albums
>>64758852
The Wall > Everything Syd did alone
>>64758823
Very wrong, but even if you think that you should still admit that they're better than PF's worst experimental shit.
>>64758852
not him but I disagree. When I hear Syd's albums I get sad because of the absence of the joy and light in his voice which was very apparent in Piper. If I get sad listening to Roger's stuff, it's because he's really good at conveying his feelings and plans for the listener to feel sad. Same with Richard Wright's "Broken China," which I find is probably the best of all the members' solo albums.
Syd age 24
On a distant shore, miles from land
Stands the ebony totem in ebony sand
A dream in a mist of grey...
On a far distant shore...
The pebble that stood alone
And driftwood lies half buried
Warm shallow waters sweep shells
So the cockles shine...
A bare winding carcase, stark
Shimmers as flies scoop up meat, an empty way...
Dry tears...
Crisp flax squeaks tall reeds
Make a circle of grey in a summer way, around man
Stood on ground...
Roger age 36
Daddy's flown across the ocean
Leaving just a memory
Snapshot in the family album
Daddy what else did you leave for me?
Daddy, what'd'ja leave behind for me?!?
All in all it was just a brick in the wall.
All in all it was all just bricks in the wall.
"You! Yes, you! Stand still laddy!"
But sure, Syd's the immature untalented one relying fan appeal.
>>64752333
My third favorite album by them after Animals and WYWH.
>>64759246
YES. I've always thought Waters sucked at lyrics. They all sound so choppy and meaningless.
3rd best Floyd after WYWH and LiP
Fearless is GOAT
>>64759246
>Picking one of Syd's best
>Picking one of Waters' worst
Come on. What a poor argument
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
Racing around to come up behind you again
The sun is the same in a relative way, but you're older
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death
Every year is getting shorter, never seem to find the time
Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
The time is gone, the song is over, thought I'd something more to say
>>64759382
"WE'RE JUST TWO LOST SOULS SWIMMING IN A FISH BOWL YEAR AFTER YEAR" I cringe every time.
>>64759447
"You would hold your head up high
You even try
You would hold another hand
Oh, understand
They even see me under call
We under all, we awful, awful, crawl
To hear my hour don't see me cry"
Kk i'm crying Syd
Damn. This whole time I thought that was some weird creature, but it's just some dude's ear.
>>64759447
"I'VE GOT A BIKE" I cringe every time
"The monkey sat on a pile of stones
And he stared at the broken bone in his hand
And the strains Viennese quartet
Rang out across the land
The monkey looked up at the stars
And he thought to himself
Memory is a stranger
History is for fools" Das some good shit Roger
Syd vs Waters is like the personified battle of psyche vs prog, 60s vs 70s
>>64759382
Lol! I was gonna use that song as the bad Waters example first but then I figured people would claim he got better by The Wall. Even he himself makes fun of those lyrics.
>>64759646
Iknow right? Lol! Lmao lmao! xd
>>64759605
>"I'VE GOT A BIKE"
Genuinely adorable.
>The monkey sat on a pile of stones etc
Run of the mill rock wordpoop.
>>64759713
It's totally normal for artists to be ashamed of the music that everyone loves and that overshadows their other stuff.
"Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant tide
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine
And no one showed us to the land
And no one knows the wheres or whys
But something stirs and something tries
And starts to climb towards the light"
>>64752333
Fantastic album, and probably my favorite Pink Floyd release for Echoes and Fearless alone.
Also pretty interesting in the sense that it's as developed as the band got before Waters took over.
>>64759713
>generally preferring "adorable" music over music that actually means something.
pic related. he's telling you to get out
Post-Syd Barret Pink Floyd is about as good as Post-Brian Jones Stones, Post-Peter Green Fleetwood Mac and Post-Brian Wilson Beach Boys.
What's the best performance of Echoes? I can't decide between Pompeii and Gdansk.
pic unrelated
>>64759739
I'll admit that's actually good, though the later verses kind of ruin it (same with point me at the sky). But fine, he isn't *incapable* of writing good lyrics.
>>64759794
I generally prefer good adorable music over bland "meaningful" music.
>>64752776
>AHM suite is all filler
I have lurked quite a bit and this is the dumbest thing i have ever read on 4chan
>>64759824
All versions of Echoes are great in their own way. I also really like the "acoustic" thing David Gilmour's band did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_7ycFtGWQw
>>64759809
sorry you have such poor taste in music, m80
>>64759901
except the beginning where Pratt fucks up the bass
>>64759901
Every time I watch that I get pissed off at the bassist for taking so goddamn long to figure his shit out
>>64754713
I'd knock Animals and DSOTM down a point each, but other than that, this is objectively correct.
>>64754713
>didn't enjoy Piper
>>64759809
Pink Floyd didn't begin until Syd Barrett left the band.
>>64759809
Except that's not true at all.
>inb4 but Scaruffi said
>>64760339
This is the only correct opinion. If Pink Floyd had been abandoned after Syd left then nobody would give to shit about the music they made
>>64759824
I like the Gdansk one just because of the flawless build-up after the bird screeching part.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xMrhRqK4iig?t=888
>>64752333
best floyd
>tfw when Climb
>>64752333
Overall, like a 7/10. Seamus sucks, San Tropez sucks. Pillow of Winds and One of these Days are ok. Fearless and Echoes are good. I'd say that it is Pink Floyd's best album, but I'm not too much of a PF fan anymore. Their music gets boring pretty quickly. I prefer more complex music.
>>64761393
one of these days is my second favorite
pleb
>>64753742
>I mean this is the ultimate reason why, but I can't disagree
>when I was an edgy teen, I LOVED the wall
Yup.
I still love it now as an adult, but for entirely different reasons.
>>64752333
It's great. Echoes, of course. Fearless.
Not my favorite track but that bass at the beginning of One of These Days sends chills up my spine every time I put this record on.
>>64753197
for me
Piper 10/10
Saucerful 7/10
More 4/10
Ummagumma 5/10
Atom Heart Mother 6.5/10
Obscured 5/10
Dark Side 10/10
WYWH 7/10
Animals 9/10
The Balls 6/10
Final Cuck 4/10
Momentary Lapse 3/10
Division bell 5/10
Endless River 1/10
>>64753289
Piper should be 9
>>64759330
What the fuck is "LiP?"
>>64754713
>when you're too stupid to enjoy piper
>>64763236
Syd is fucking grating.
>>64763212
live in pompeii
>>64763420
It's Live At Pompeii.
>>64761393
What a horrible opinion. Seamus is not great but One of These Days is top tier, and the rest of that side is great.
Daily reminder Meddle and WYWH are the 2 best Pink Floyd albums
Hey guise.
