If women are good musicians, then how come there's no famous female composers?
>>64718533
>If women are good musicians
But they aren't
Clara Schumann is waifu tier
>Grimeth
>That bitch that plays the harp
>Uhhh...
>>64718533
because back in the days women were not allowed to do music
Come on, women are weaker than men. Is it any harder to assume they're less intelligent, too?
Most early electronic/musique concrete artists are women. You obviously just started listening to music/listen to only one genre.
Good musician ≠ good composer
For example, the musician behind pet sound are god-tier musician but they didn't write a thing, start with that.
>there's no famous female composers?
Nico, janis Joplin and joni mitchell are very famous desu.
Lisa germano it's not so famous but he is a great songwriter tho
Mozart's sister Maria Anna AKA "Nannerl" was fairly famous
>>64718640
I also forget bjork.
Björk, Nico, Kate Bush?
>>64718634
>electronic/musique concrete
Good bait, very authentic.
>>64718533
>>64718966
This whole chart only holds on Nico.
>>64719001
what does that even mean
>>64718533
Yoko Shimomura
>>64718543
bjork
>>64718593
This
They really weren't.
>>64719069
You might have gotten someone with that bait but to suggest a JAPANESE woman has made anything of worth is going too far
>>64719057
I believe he's implying that the only good musician there is Nico
>>64718593
???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_composers_by_birth_date
>>64719125
well then he's dead wrong
>>64719118
Sheena Ringo
Ichiko Aoba
>>64718634
>Most early electronic/musique concrete artists are women.
No they aren't you dumb bitch. Most of the early guys were old French and German men.
>>64718533
Ever think we kept them from doing it?
>>64719504
No, not really
>>64719479
And Italians.
>no famous female composers
Who is Hildegard Von Bingen?
>>64719504
>le female musicians didn't get noticed for thousands of years because they were opressed
>le women were making equally good music all along but the patriarchy kept them down
I don't even consider myself sexist but thhat is bullshit. the fact is that men are just better at making music (and art in general). men are more artistically inclined and care more about art.
>>64718593
Bullshit. If it was true it would be for good reason.
>>64719592
That's actually a good question.
Who the fuck is that.
>>64718966
R E A L
T R A P
S H I T
>>64719144
>>64719604
ok, probably it was not forbidden, but highly unusual
>people replying to this shit-tier b8
>unzips dick
>>64719620
She composed many of the greatest pieces in Gregorian Chant, which was usually sung during Mass and other Western Christian rituals.
>>64719667
Plaestrina composed many more, and many which are far greater in my opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n8XdKkrqgo
Von Bingen's monophonic snooze fest doesn't get close to this divine fire.
>>64719753
Nice
>>64719753
>monophonic snooze fest
>divine fire
heehee, that got a chuckle out of me
That is some nice stuff, tho
>>64719753
Any specific recording I should listen to? I'm really digging this.
>>64719753
*Palestrina
my b famiglia. point still stands though.
Here's a modern female composer that's pretty decent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVxy-_aS0N4
>>64719871
Cambridge singers are pretty decent
Here take some tasty Sicut cervus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yd5EE0hAB8
>>64718593
The only difference is that there was no affirmative action or equality myth back in the day. Wealthy women have always had the most leisure time and the most privileges in European civilisation, but they still don't accomplish anything.
>>64718533
Gubaidulina > 90% of canonical male composers
>>64719753
?? You're comparing a medieval composer to a renaissance composition, obviously the latter is going to be more sophisticated
>>64719600
Insufferably retarded post, no one is saying they were ever making equally good music, the point is they couldn't for societal reasons pursue composition like men could
>>64719626
Then shut up instead of spouting bullshit.
>>64720160
>they couldn't for societal reasons pursue composition like men could
what were these "societal reasons" that apparently existed for thousands of years?
>Joni Mitchell
>Bjork
>Joanna Newsom
>Kate Bush
>Nico
>Regina Spektor
>Carole King
>Fiona Apple
>Julia Holter
>Janelle Monae
>Sleater-Kinney
>PJ Harvey
>Tori Amos
>Vashti Bunyan
>Patti Smith
>Lauryn Hill
>Alice Coltrane
>Tracy Chapman
>Elizabeth Cotten
>Erykah Badu
>Grace Jones
>Gillian Welch
>Saying there are no good female composers/songwriters
>Being this much of a pleb
>>64718778
shut up pleb
>>64720342
>thousands of years
Incredible.
>>64719753
what a fucking pleb you are (and that's certainly not because you appreciate Palestrina)
Laurel Halo
>>64718533
>famous
Yes, that's exactly how you judge quality, retard.
>>64719600
>I don't even consider myself sexist but
10/10
brains.
