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Why is this the best instrument mankind could ever conceive?
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Why is this the best instrument mankind could ever conceive?
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my dick
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>>64682496
/thread
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multiphonic microtonal brass
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>>64682475
Because it represents the height of engineering and skilled mathematical manipulation of harmonicity.
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>>64682517
>>64682475
>no sustain
>no attack
>percussive
>fixed tuning

hurr durr best instrument ever
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>>64682475

It allows quick note movements, endless chords possibilities, is dynamic.

Yeah why not.
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>>64682548
Try to compose music with a percussion instrument
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>>64682588
>never listens to buddy rich
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>>64682765

Wild drum solos are cool, but not "music"

>>64682548

>what is sustain pedal
>what is damper pedal
>what is playing softly
>what is tuning it a different way

/mu/ is so full of musically illiterate people
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>>64682475
Because we suck.
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>>64682791
>>64682791
what do you expect from a korean eggplant forum
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>>64682548
Perfect, multi-octave 12-tet is what makes it great, 12-tet is the single greatest achievment of western musical theory, it's what sets us apart from primitive garbage music like indian """"""classical"""""" and chinese music.
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Prove me wrong
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Some synth, probably
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>>64682791
this has to be bait
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>>64682973

Not bait
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>>64682995
then ur must be retarded
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>>64682883
Guitar and its disgusting disciples are the worst things that ever happened to music in human history.
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>>64682883
>piano has superior range
>can play 12 notes at a time
>can change scales easily
>can play faster
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>>64682827
heh its not perfect kiddo, and there's no reason western tonality is better than any other kind other than we're used to it.
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>>64683189
>the computer has superior range
>can play any number of notes at a time
>can change ANYTHING easily
>can play faster than any human, even faster than we can hear

hence the computer is the superior instrument
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>>64683223
Western tonality is better simply because it enables harmony. This is the defining feature of western music and is unmatched in any oriental or popular tradition. A master stroke of mathematics, engineering and art.
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>>64683233
I was proving that piano > guitar.

Since when is the computer an instrument itself? More like a tool. Maybe you create new sounds, but you don't "play" the computer.
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>>64683276

>What is microtonal harmony?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WB-MSUahx6I
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>>64683362
i was proving that computer > piano > guitar

its an instrument since around the 60s i think
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>>64683276
are you saying indian traditional doesn't have harmony, balinese gamelan? lol you can stop now
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I don't get this microtonal thing. At some point the intervals get so small that the human ear can't phyisically perceive the difference in pitch anymore. Or maybe it's just me.
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>>64683570
try it on robotussin
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>>64682818
good one
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>>64683382
Kinda defeats the point tho to play microtonal stuff with a fat detuned synth with fucking chorus effects.

https://tallkite.bandcamp.com/track/old-english-folk-song
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>>64682827
>12-tet is the single greatest achievment of western musical theory
>sets us apart from primitive garbage music like indian """"""classical"""""" and chinese music.
>chinese music
except the first person to solve equal temperament mathematically was zhu zaiyu (a chinese guy)
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>>64685204
whats ur point tho?
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>>64683382
>>64683408
He means functionality.
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it's pretty cool that it can be a piano and a forte at the same time
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>>64685987
but actually just baiting
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>>64686056
What makes you say that?
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>arguing about which instrument is the best
>comparing technical "achivements"
>reducing music to maths and mechanics

this thread in a nutshell :

The coffee machine is the best device mankind could ever conceive.
>but hurr durr go bake a potato with it durrr
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>>64685987
What's functionality?
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>>64682475
>Not the jew's harp
Are you even trying to be patrician?
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>>64686549
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diatonic_function

In short, it's directionality, or 'pull'.
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>Why is this the best instrument mankind could ever conceive?
>plebs questioning piano master race
>mfw
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>>64687002
>every other music culture doesn't have 'pull'
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>>64688236
Not in a way that is anywhere near as universally felt. Blind studies on the perception of dissonance between interval and chord studies show this frequently - almost everyone hears major->minor->diminished->augmented in that order of perceived dissonance, even if they've never been part of a 12-tet culture. Similarly, most (though, admittedly this is less unanimous than the previous fact) will have fairly aligned senses of where particular chord-tones want to resolve.

This is absolutely not the case for almost any other temperament in use - they all have percieved 'pull' within the culture they belong to, sure, but it's much more based on cultural norms, and nowhere near as innate or universal.
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>>64682883
>anyway, here's wonderwall...
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>>64688710
Link to these blind studies??
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>>64682588
how does it feel to have no brain?
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>>64683362
if you use a computer solely to make music, with no "real" instruments, then surely the computer is an instrument, otherwise where did music come from?
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>>64688896
Inter-cultural studies:

http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1968-17090-001

http://www.stefan-koelsch.de/papers/520.JOCN.pdf

http://musiccognition.info/public/uploads/articles/17/nyas_NeuroMusicIII_Corrigall_Trainor_96.pdf

Studies that suggest an innateness built into 12tet temperament through testing on infants and animals:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163638398900212

http://jn.physiology.org/content/86/6/2761.short
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>>64689211
reddit or just pleb? or both?
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>>64691236
Except he's right.
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>>64683189
haha whoo here i go with my 12 fingers waha whoohoo
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>>64683184
Good one bleep fag, btw computers aren't instruments and are objectively inferior to any other form of music
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>>64686001
underrated post T B H
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The synthesizer is the only thing that could beat it.
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You can depress multiple adjacent white keys with a single finger without much trouble. It's a pretty normal technique. Frankly, you can play every note on a piano at once if you wanted, just not with any dexterity.
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>>64682791
>Wild drum solos are cool, but not "music"
this is retarded
your other points are excellent though
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>>64683362
you literally can play a computer, bud. link up keys to notes. bam. or use a midi controller. or sequence a track (not live playing but still playing). it can function just the same as any other instrument.
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>>64682475
That's not a computer OP
Specifically doing additive synthesis
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>>64682548
wow you're dumb
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So why is it that certain music makes us feel emotions? Why exactly?
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