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Prove that women can make good depressing music
grouper - ruins
<3
>>64667794
/thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHkrM8WsSb0
Bjork got it. You can tell she went through some tough shit on albums like Homogenic and Vespertine
This is my least favorite life - True Detective qt
I have recently fallen I love with Vashti
Last track on Cтыд и cpaм (the original version, not the modern remaster with ten bonus tracks)
>>64667838
wow, thanks anon
Pram in general, but pic related also has the eponymous track about pregnancy anxiety.
Over at /lit/ we've already proved beyond any doubt that women are only capable of sadness and not depression. It's no surprise that fans of the lesser art aren't intelligent enough to realize that.
based PJ Harvey
>>64668016
do you realise that you are on 4chan, right?
>>64668016
Do you have that caption of the thread where a nice girl writes enthusiastically about her recent reads and anons rip her a new one and ends up leaving the toxic shithole forever?
>>64667977
You're welcome Tori was a serious challenge to Bjork in the 90's. Most of her early discography are god tier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pThZd_U2-lY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WbvV46JPV8
>>64668016
>Plath and Woolf were only sad, not depressed
this is why I don't get on that fucking board, you guys are worse than /mu/
>>64668308
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcBBalxGMDU
>>64668491
Plath was just mentally ill
>>64668016
le schopenhauer face
>>64668513
what the shit do you think clinical depression is
>>64668513
>Depression is not a mental illness
>>64668513
What is depression then?
>>64667838
>>64668308
>>64668494
>toriposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7WET8khBc4
>>64668557
>>64668564
>>64668567
>bought into the depression is just a mental imbalance rather than a genuine emotional state meme
>>64668557
>>64668564
>>64668567
>Believing the mental illness meme
Enjoy your pharmajewticals ya retards
>>64668016
muh anna kavan though
>>64668016
>women can't have feelings like i do
You're like a child.
>>64668585
Tori was my favorite artist in the 90's saw her live 3 times...phonominal live performances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpLCFph9iv4
>>64668586
yes. Psychologists, psychiatrists, and neurobiologists, are all just memeing.
thanks for redpilling me, 4chan.
this is where the real science happens.
>>64668494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBgsIgydU7k
Basically, if i feel like listening to Tori I know I'm not in a good place inside.
>>64668619
>Women feel the exact same things as men
Take your leftist lies somewhere else
>>64668586
>mental imbalance
>genuine emotional state
What did he mean by this?
>>64668651
>ywn see her live in the 90's
I think she's still a great performer even now, shame about her compositional skills though.
>>64668661
The relationship between circumstance, environment, and biology isn't fully understood yet. The fact that depression can be triggered by external factors makes it more of an emotional state in my mind than an actual mental illness like schizophrenia.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=91TXWD2ibHE
>>64668692
there are no emotions, only memes.
>>64668726
>The fact that depression can be triggered by external factors makes it more of an emotional state in my mind than an actual mental illness like schizophrenia.
Wew
>>64668686
Claiming women can't be depressed is some next level neckbeard shit, it's strongly tied to the reason you're single.
>>64668721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN40SIFpBhQ
>>64668752
People don't regularly become schizophrenic after a parent dies.
Female Slint desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWaez91XCiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBaXPlri8
Makes me feel sad
>>64668726
oh sorry, I was basing my opinion on science, not your mind. My bad
>>64668755
I'm not single. Are you American? You sound like one given that you have to tell yourself that everyone who believes something you don't like is the human embodiment of some stereotype..
You're probably a leftist which is why you're dating a girl who's fuck countless men before you, is mentally ill, has dyed hair, and doesn't even go to church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dksGBJeLnQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjNFC-FinU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-wGMlSuX_c
Lily Allen got those harsh truths
Pretty good shitposting thread so far desu
>>64668785
Not really depressing but sounds a lot like slint
>>64668816
>on science
lol psychology isn't a science. And, like I said, the relationship between environment and biology isn't fully understood. There are competing theories on what qualifies as depression, how one deals with depression, and how depression should be classified.
>>64668776
what do you think are the factors for schizophrenia?
>>64668848
My bad, here's something more reflective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1yON3BibVc
Grouper
Joni Mitchell
Rachel Goswell
Mimi Parker
and many others...
>>64668827
>>64668874
>psychology isn't a science.
Oh it's this meme again. Only pretentious mechanical engineering and physics undergrads believe this.
>>64668585
This was such a different arrangement to the studio version of "Crucify'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCUCQmL3C5Y
These women got something
>>64668827
>doesnt even go to church
fuckin lel m8
also, not the same anon, but if you're going to hide behind a straw man fallacy the least you can do is reupholster your argument a bit to at least make an attempt at the subject matter
>>64668896
This just got much better, cheers anon
>>64668882
Genetic predisposition to a malformed brain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-V4UKpa0_M
>>64668924
Yeah, it's pretty GOAT. This is also very different, especially the closer, and much better IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJHVNABJYI4
>>64668911
It's not a fucking meme. I'm tired of "sciences" that eschew biological explanations in favor of environmental ones. The fact that psychologists do child rearing studies without controlling for genetics says everything.
>>64668951
>Muh informal fallacies
Go read a book you mongoloid shit. There's no reason to address the topic because it's not up for discussion. 2 + 2 = 4, magnetic monopoles don't exist, and women can't get depressed. All both theoretically and empirically proved facts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skXhXdDNOjk
My friend once told me that all women vocals sound the same and they make him want to kill himself so I guess they are doing a pretty good job.
>>64668874
lol
Look up the word "psychology" in the dictionary
Then ponder the fact that we're on 4chan
Then use that newfound information to deduce how seriously your opinion is being taken
then go back to /lit/
/lit/ is generally the smartest board, but its crossposters are among the dumbest.
>Reads Schopenhauer once
>>64669035
useless post. just say what you're trying to imply
>>64669011
>the relationship between environment and biology isn't fully understood. There are competing theories on what qualifies as depression, how one deals with depression, and how depression should be classified.
>muh empirical facts
you're half of the discussion is looking pretty coherent
>>64668957
No problemo, the previous track is also great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skreabVrMRk
You should just listen to the whole album, even though it only gets depressing towards the later half of the album.
>>64669010
Different areas of psychology are more scientific (by your definition) than others. Saying that psychology in general isn't a science is just stupid.
Is this the argument you are trying to make?
>Depression is not internal/biological in its entirety but has to do with how one processes the environmental output
>Men are capable of accessing this special&deep emotional state; women are not
Correct?
>>64669072
/lit/ is cool, got me into dostoyevski first
but then when I got into the same level of thinking with them it occurred to me that they are just a bunch of pompous little cunts
>>64667917
you mean Julia Casablancas
>>64669077
I'm implying that your a fucking idiot for saying psychology is not a science when the definition for psychology is the science of the mind.
I'm also implying that it's you(a 4chan anon) vs modern science, so forgive me if I don't find your argument compelling
Now that you've been spoon-fed, go back to /lit/ where you can freely discuss your thorough knowledge of female neurobiology
>>64669151
Psychology today is basically alchemy as it was transitioning to chemistry. It's like 70% bullshit with sprinkles of truth.
>Mount eerie - voice in headphones
>Björk - undo
can you explain it?
>>64669168
where should i start with Dostoyevsky?
I was going to start with Notes from the Underground, but only because it's the shortest, I've heard good things about Bros Karamazov
>>64669312
fucking faves
Its literally a song about Phil Elverum listening to Undo by Bjork. That's why it's called voice in headphones
>>64669252
>Implying it matters if psychology is scientific or not
Psychology has no interest in the lived world, thus it has no interest in experience, thus it is a shitty perspective from which to study my mind. It's just scientism repackaged.
>>64669252
Psychology isn't a science; most schools put it under the humanities umbrella. It's closer to an offshoot of certain branches of philosophy. Let me reiterate: sciences don't do behavioral studies that don't control for genetics.
listen to sharon van etten sing on all her cds about her bf beating the shit outta her. depressing as fuck or sexytiem erotic. you decide.
>>64668726
Fuck off with this le freud, hippy bullshit. Depression, especially conditions that are chronic, derives from neurotransmitter imbalances and brain structure abnormalities. Stop spreading misinformation, faggot.You're not an authority on this subject and never will be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSq8moVOG0
>>64669000
Agreed. I heard the arrangement of Waitress/Hang ten during the tour she shared billing with Alannis Morresette ..so moody and powerful. or it might have been the Choirgirl tour. They all run together after awhile I guess. Anyway..was great live.
>>64669316
I started with the crime and punishment but it doesn't really matter where you start
>>64669381
>derives from neurotransmitter imbalances and brain structure abnormalities.
You cannot get cause from effect, you absolute mongoloid. Every emotional state relates to chemical interactions in the brain. If depression was purely structural, people wouldn't suddenly suffer from it due to personal trauma.
>>64669316
the idiot CHANGED MY FUCKING LIFe
read it now, before you die
>>64669381
I'm nearing 10years of depression, medication and psychotherapy and all
I firmly believe that if i had the courage to live completely alone (ie hermit) i would be perfectly happy
>>64669365
Which of these do you think is better?
No one posted Lisa Germano yet?
>>64669461
I make an effort not to think in those terms, just enjoy them both in the ways that you do senpai
>>64669500
thiiiissss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-H4af9-uQ
>>64669440
>if depression was purely structural
I never said that. I'm fully aware life experiences and neuroplasticity have an influence on how the brain develops. However, implying that endogenous depression doesn't exist makes you short-sighted in your argument.
And you're saying environmental factors can't trigger schizophrenia or psychosis? You're plagued with tunnel-vision, no sense arguing with you.
>>64668731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb4hK8GZ93s
Why do you care?
>>64667794
Regina Spektor's song Hero always gives me the sads
>>64669011
>women can't get depressed
>All both theoretically and empirically proved facts.
Five words you don't know the meanings of: Depression, empirically, theoretically, proved and facts.
>>64669587
My point is that the cognitive consequences of depression aren't necessarily its origin. There are exceptions, but depression isn't like being born with a cleft lip. Schizophrenia can be triggered, but its relationship to biological and genetic causes is much better established.
>>64669694
You forgot all and both, and maybe even and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7zHZrcHdxg
How was Carissa's Wierd / S / Jenn Ghetto not mentioned
>>64667794
You mean like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs
If any woman did it was Connie Converse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksn0Wjw-EiY
For those who don't know the story, in 1974 after reaching the peak of her depression she wrote letters to her family & friends announcing that she was leaving and was never heard from again. From one of the letters; "Let me go. Let me be if I can. Let me not be if I can’t. [...] Human society fascinates me & awes me & fills me with grief & joy; I just can't find my place to plug into it."
You faggots call this shit depressing? This is like breakfast for me. Call me when a woman writes something equivalent to Hospice, but even then I won't give a fuck that it was written by a woman.
>>64669732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pJlZTY2Qlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdl6V5otgoY
>>64669658
Very nice though i didn't understand if the theme is love or social criticism
>>64667901
This.
>>64669761
>Hospice
With that taste, of course you won't
>>64669761
>Hospice
Bait would've been more effective if you didn't use babby's first bummer jams
>>64669761
>Hospice
Bait would've been more effective if you didn't use babby's first bummer jams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5jI9I03q8E
>>64669816
it's about atheism
>>64669816
>>64669905
I like to think that these two posts sum up why analyzing art forms is fucking retarded.
>>64667838
My favorite with based Maynard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LnAIC9RWo
>>64669940
I know that your post sums up why you are.
YOU QUEERS HAVE NO IDEA
BUT I WON'T SHARE BECAUSE I WANT THE MUSIC TO HAVE VERY LITTLE SCROBBLES ON LAST FM
SO I CAN BE UNIQUE
I'M LITERALLY DENYING YOU SOME OF THE GREATEST SAD MUSIC MADE BY WOMEN
SO YOU CAN'T BE CUNTS ABOUT IT AND RUIN IT BY SPREADING IT ON FACEBOOK
YOU ATTENTION WHORES
GRIMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWam7u9uBNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsbiyvpel54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_nE4YEYHQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04etL7ILb38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEety9vpf14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLi4VM7Wybo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U54tkJ5fLrE
>>64669755
>"I just can't find my place to plug into it."
>she was leaving and was never heard from again.
Jesus H. Christ poor girl
>>64669000
I was in the audience of this performance in Vegas. It was at the Hard Rock - again..so powerful live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLAxQUuqtB4&t=1h02m39s
>>64669994
go back to your containment thread please
>>64669378
>bf beating the shit outta her
>sexy
>>64670033
jump to 1:02:39 for "Waitress/Hang Ten". I thought the video link would sync to that point..my bad
>>64670037
Instead of this shitty snarky comment, why don't you actually listen to these songs?
>>64669755
>I just can't find my place to plug into it
I know that feel.
>>64670110
Instead of spamming this diseased, overexposed meme of an artist in every thread why don't you post something novel and interesting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8oKuCZrCOg
>>64670104
>Hang Ten
Is that what the later half is actually called? Is it in a separate track? Just thought it was an extension of Waitress.
>>64668016
reminder
>>64670384
Also
>flipping the bird
kek
>>64670278
Those songs that I posted are way more obscure than her usual hits. Listen to them, you don't lose anything. You may be surprised! At very least the first one.
Not very depressing, but it gives me feels nonetheless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ-aNtnDwxI
>>64667845
if any woman could make depressing music, its Bork. im surprised Homogenic wasn't darker considering the fucking stalker thing
cant believe the thread has gotten this far without a mention of annie
>>64670033
opps...I was wrong. This was during the 5 1/2 weeks tour she did with Alannis
Anyone listening to miserable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkainIVTDQQ
Literally any ballad by Cat Power
>>64670488
regarding the bird. from 'The Dent" Tori fan site
This was the first time Ive had the distinct displeasure of having loud, rude, obnoxious drunks near me on this tour. There were three of them in the group in the third row in section 1, They werent really fans of either Tori or Alanis; in fact the alcohol clearly led them to believe that it was THEIR show. I was concerned before the show even started that they were possibly going to be annoying because they reeked of beer (from 8 feet away) and were making loud, obnoxious comments and laughing loudly at each others stupidity and inane jokes even then started <snip> Suffice to say, this didnt solve the problem for me because they were still only about 8 feet away from me (I was now to their left) and they never stopped yapping and laughing throughout the entire first half of the set. I got more and more aggravated as time went on but didnt want to do anything which would worsen the situation. I lost it though, during Silent All These Years, when they were alternately yapping loudly, laughing, and then one of them decided to start singing along in a slightly mocking tone. I shouldnt have done it, but I got in their faces with a can you please shut the f*ck up while Tori is singing request. <snip> Shortly after that they were a little less noisy overall because they then knew that there were at least two people pissed off, but they still never completely stopped the b.s. The point of all this is that when Tori flipped the bird during The Waitress, it was directly at them. Shes done this before, but she held it an especially long time tonight. Afterwards, I turned around and asked them how it felt. They didnt have anything to say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy8bEDi1Eg
Probably doesn't fit the bill, but oh well.
>>64671093
I came to post her and Vashti.
>>64670384
Hang ten was not included on the studio version of "the Waitress" on the "Under the Pink" album. I think you right. I have never heard of her doing Hang Ten as a separate track. It has been tacked onto Waitress during her live shows.
>>64671141
based Tori
>>64668726
>implying that there isn't actual tons of research suggesting serotonin and sexual hormone imbalance and the fact that serotonin boosting antidepressants and birth control have had absolutely no effect.
Source: friends with depressed people, literally in love with a clinically depressed and anxiety-ridden girl for 9 months and was with her for its worst. Spoken to actual neurologists, read multiple studies, partially because intro to psych, partially because I had to watch all this go down and tried my damnedest to stop it and have talked to psychiatrists.
Aimee Mann always sounds depressed when she sings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e_hJA8Mv3U
Lucinda Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCb0w1rarw
>>64667845
also Vulnicura
>>64669283
How the hell? It's the study and quantification of observable behavior. Cognitive and learning studies especially, the fact that learning types and intelligence theories can be proven multiple times (i.e. repeatable results, ergo, science).
P.S. since brain chemistry is not always the same for all people and you can't screen for most hormone deficiencies, experimentation with prescribed drugs is necessary.
Study up on it more, you're thinking exclusively of introspection when you talk about pseudo science, which, while more subjective than typical science, is not pseudoscience, seeing as how introspection (by the self or another) can be used to find conflicts and help to solve them through logical thinking (which is cognitive-behavioral therapy)
They can't, because natural selection gives only men the depth for extreme emotional highs and lows (whether it's joy, sadness, the thrill of combat and competition, whatever). All women have to do is basically just sit there, select their mate, and get a job so they don't feel as useless as they are (even though if they get fired they can be sure they'll never have to live on the streets). Men are the ones who have to strive and push themselves beyond impossible odds.
>>64669977
I watched the RAINN Special she did. Very good/
>>64672131
here's your reply
julie christmas
>>64669010
good luck finding that creativity gene Sam
>>64667794
Frances Quinlan does good work with Hop Along (and Hop Along, Queen Ansleis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIFiAH5Y4Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya5p6CLzfwU
There's the Courtney Barnett track that gets me too, even if most of her stuff is kinda rubbish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-TDyc83g3o
>>64667794
Why is there no talk of Breeders?
Kim gets sad sometimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgOg4NGCYR8
>>64671922
Any advice for a guy who may be entering a relationship with a girl like that (less serious but still bad)?
>>64669994
I really don't like the vocals
>>64672131
you don't get out much, huh?
>>64672338
Not that anon but coming from someone who has brain problems the best thing you could do for her and yourself is to recognize that you can't fix her and her symptoms are out of your control. Learn to identify patterns in mood changes and do your best to be supportive throughout episodes and treatment.
>>64672338
When she's good, make the most of it. But man, there might be days where she literally cannot do anything. She can't function. It takes a lot of goddamn strength. Depression is like the shittiest house-guest in the world that no one invited and cannot be gotten rid of. If she snaps at you or just gets angry, try to forgive and forget, it isn't really her. Don't talk about it too much unless she wants to and let her know that you want her to come to you, I say that because if you talk about it, it could start a spiral of sorts or if she's down already and you're talking about it, it won't help any. Be upbeat, do dumb shit for her, if you can get her to smile or just stop crying, you're doing pretty good already. If you play something or have a good voice, learn her favorite songs, even if all of them are by Taylor Swift, it doesn't matter, cheer her up in any way you can. I spent countless hours sitting and holding hands with her not being able to do anything too, but, that happens too. You're not failing her. It isn't your fault. I swear to you, man. You just have to wait sometimes. If she's not seeing a therapist and isn't trying any meds, take her to see one and talk to an actual medical doctor as well, there are plenty of options for some help. It'll get really bad on her period because of the emotional turbulence, birth control can help with that, but, ask a doctor and try to be with her every step of the way.
I managed to get depressed in the process and stayed for three months too long with no change because I didn't listen. She might lean on someone else for some support, but, just make sure you're there when she needs you or she's gotten up so you can dust her off.
And really, good luck. I hope it works and I hope any advice I gave helps even a little.
>>64672676
>>64672618
Thanks you guys you made me cry.
I don't think it'll be as bad as your experiences but thank you so much.
She has great taste in music and I'm learning guitar. I'm pretty wacky and upbeat I hope that helps.
>>64672983
It should. It can be kinda painful but, and I guess I'm a sap, if you fall in love, it's completely worth it.
>>64672983
Good luck with her and your lives, love is the best
>>64673112
IT IS THE BEST! WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME ABOUT THIS?
>>64673058
So how did it end?
>>64672338
I've been with two girls with depression (only one diagnosed but they acted the same)
Honestly... don't. It might seem worth it now but ending it will be tough when you realise you need to and you're her main support
>>64673187
>>64673058
Uh oh which do I choose
>>64673220
follow your heart, anon!
>>64673220
It depends. You may not be her main support. Or, you could end up getting dragged along like I did. It just depends.
>>64673220
187 here
I'd still be a friend to someone with depression (still speak to them both) - but I wouldn't get that close again. It's really harsh to say, feels bad, but it's true. Really took it out of me over the years I was in those relationships, and like the others said there really isn't anything you can do to help, unfortunately.
If I was with someone for a long time and they developed depression I'd stick around... but if you already know then just know what you're getting into
>>64667817
/thread here seriously
>>64673250
< 3
>>64673263
>>64673314
I think it's too late to abandon any romantic/sexual aspect, and I don't want to. I appreciate it though and I'll proceed with caution. (We're barely allowed to post on 4chan and we aren't that serious and her depression isn't that severe I don't want to make my life out to be that dramatic)
>>64667794
The second half of My Cute Sweet Fiend Princess by Kimya Dawson is the saddest collection of songs I've ever heard
>>64673179
I brought some concerns about the future, differences I saw, what she wanted. I was only looking for a discussion, but, I think my being depressed and emotional distance from the both of us because of lack of support (she had her mom especially, which in itself, caused esteem problems in me, she would lean on her mom and I felt like I couldn't do what a boyfriend was supposed to) and her entire family and a therapist and a doctor, I literally had just her for my depression because it wasn't bad enough to reach out for a while and I didn't really know who to go to, which doesn't quite work out well. It ended partway through a break, so, I had four or five days to recuperate without having to see her. I got my t-shirts and a jacket back, I tried giving her a gift I'd already gotten because I damn sure didn't want it. Leather necklace as a replacement for something I made, I had it wrapped around my wrist so I could give it to her when I saw her, but, she didn't want it and it's just stayed there. It's been a little under 5 months and I think I'm over it well enough.
>>64671220
>thought she was dead
>she's alive and doesn't understand the internet
I don't know which one makes me more depressed
>>64668726
>Schizophrenia can't be trigger by outside sources
>>64673451
thanks this is great
>>64673402
I think you two will be good. Just. Hers seemed exacerbated by the relationship, maybe, so, just look out. Get her help if she needs it.
>>64673533
Vashti bunyan?
>>64671922
I'm not saying depression doesn't exist, but fuck, a lot of people who don't have it say that they do as a cop out.
>>64673523
Oh, and this is a big one, love shown will outlast love only spoken.
>>64673594
Sibylle Baier, apparently she's still kicking
>>64673572
Wait why do you say that? What makes you say it's exacerbated (that means intensified and in this case worsened right?)? She is currently receiving help and likely will be getting meds later (she's worried that meds might make her act and feel differently, as in not her real self, is this a legitimate fear?)
>>64673523
That sounds terrible, I'm sorry, is your depression better now?
>>64673614
I'll definitely think about that
>>64673711
serious advice for what to do about depressed GF / potential GF: get her reading kelly brogan MD
>>64669022
This was the song used in that documentary Dirty Girls, wasn't it?
>>64673818
This looks like a load of bullshit.
>>64673711
A little. They can make you kinda off, but, again, you sold be able to get the right combination to at least minimize this risk.
I meant exacerbated because I may have dug something up in her or, more likely, she dug something up in me and it made us worse. Though, when I think back, I already had some symptoms previously, I wouldn't count on spontaneous depression.
>>64668567
Is that Trent Reznor behind her?
industrial album when?
>>64673711
I doubt it's better, but, it doesn't stop me functioning, so, I quit really paying attention to it.
>>64673818
I'm the guy you were replying to and I agree with >>64673901
>>64673953
Well shit man that's just something time spent with each other and time in general will have to tell. She says I make her feel better and that she loves me and it makes me feel happy.
>>64673985
Well, I wish you luck with that
I kinda derailed the thread with my shitty young adult love life, sorry.
>>64668567
her song 'All Too Well' legitimately makes me feel like shit
>>64674063
That's good. Just keep going. Whatever happens. Float like a leaf on the river of life.
>>64674063
no worries
>>64674132
Thanks anon, I'll float on for you and for my love. (And myself)
>>64669011
For someone telling people to read books, it's very obvious that you haven't read The Righteous Mind because otherwise you would realize how much of a fool you're making of yourself.
Thread is not complete without her
