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paul simon is vastly superior to bob dylan
anco is shit
radiohead is shit
>>64613700
>paul simon is vastly superior to bob dylan
agreed
>>64613700
>paul simon is vastly superior to bob dylan
Yep
The Smiths are better than The Beatles.
>>64613700
I don't understand what the big deal is about Swans.
>>64613776
The Beatles were undoubtedly more influential, but I'll agree with this statement.
>>64613700
Merzbow is for pretentious cunts.
and justice for all is better than master of puppets
>>64614034
Everyone thinks that. If they aren't saying it, they're subconsciously thinking it.
>>64614173
I'm fine with this because Ride the Lightning is their best anyway
>>64613700
>pop music is bad
>production killed musicianship
Trompe Le Monde is better than Doolittle
Oasis don't deserve half he acclaim they got
Manic Street Preachers are one of the GOAT bands ever out of sheer songwriting habilities and aesthetics
>>64613700
Amnesiac and In Rainbows are the best Radiohead albums.
>>64614312
Care to elaborate on the second one?
>>64614173
>>64614279
>not kill em all
>>64613700
>paul simon superior
true
>anco is shit
true
>radiohead is shit
false
>>64614279
yeah i agree
The Cure are whiny faggots and their music is garbage.
I think people who feel the need to share their contrarian opinions are fucking morons
>>64614312
lmao
>>64614441
I think people who feel the need to share their opinions about other people's contrarian opinions are fucking morons.
>>64614434
False.
>>64613792
One time I met Bob Dylan
>be me
>walking downtown in New York City
>real fucking hungry
>go up to hotdog stand
>ask vendor for one wiener with all the works
>reaches open the metal door on his stand
>Dylan pops his fucking head out
>"Holy fuck, are you Bob Dylan? May I have your autograph, sir?"
>'I dunno, man, order your hotdog and I'll see how I fEEEEeeel about it'
>"but sir I already ordered my hotdo-"
>he starts rubbing sauerkraut and relish on my crotch
>"No one will ever beliEEEEEeeeeve you"
>he gets out of the stand compartment and walks away
>>64613700
Frank Zappa is a bigger meme than yung lean t b h
>>64614434
Also applies to the Smiths.
>>64614434
>>64614620
No to both.
>>64614620
Also applies to Radiohead.
>>64613700
Avant Jazzcore is better than Progressive Dreamfunk
Classical music is worse than top 40.
>>64613700
I thought everyone knew radiohead is shit?
Also, Sonic Youth is shit too.
>>64614723
Also Swans.
>>64613700
>>64613712
>>64613773
>mfw
>>64614723
OP here, i agree. sonic youth is accessible noise rock for normies
>>64613700
>paul simon
very pleasant
>anco is shit
please stop this
>>64614761
You used to call me on your cell phone.
>>64614735
I'm not authority on Swans but I think you're probably right. I've given them a million chances and it seems people only like them because it's considered hip. What a load of rubbish. Will we ever have good bands again or will kids always be too afraid to remove their heads from their asses?
I'll admit that I've heard some decent female "punk" bands in recent years but nothing too ground breaking. They get the amount of attention that they deserve so I have no qualms with them.
>>64614736
>trying to compare the man who wrote Visions Of Johanna and Sad Eyed Lady to Paul "I play mediocre covers of old folk songs" Simon. Paul could maybe compared to Freewheelin dylan though.
>>64613700
I agree with everything up until Radiohead is shit. Pablo Honey and The Bends are great, beyond that is between ok and mediocre.
Free jazz is literally hilarious.
>>64614746
I'll never forgive them for the weight they put on Kurt Cobains already have insecurities. IMO they're one of the biggest reasons he's not around anymore.
I would have rather Nirvana never been famous than have that kid kill himself.
LEARN FROM HIM, KIDDOS! You do not want to make the same mistakes.
>>64614844
Agreed
>>64613776
The Smiths arent even superior to The Cure who isn't even in the top 10 bands of the 80s.
>>64614787
I wish I could
But hey I'm here so... :3
>>64614847
Kurt Cobain's already heavy insecurities. I really need to get a desk, I'm too lazy at typing when laying in bed.
The Presidents of the United States' first album is literally flawless
>>64614279
Kill 'Em All > Ride The Lightning
>>64614736
Your mildly attractive Semitic looks won't work this time, Zimmerman.
>>64614844
Agreed. Free jazz is as good as freestyle rap and EARLY acid rock.
>>64614847
What did Sonic Youth do to his insecurities?
>>64614880
>Kurt Cobain
>Insecurities
Maybe those whose his persona exemplified
But no he himself was not insecure and actually rather hamfistedly deliberate
>>64614736
Dylan was mediocre. His better known songs are traditional folk melodies plus faux profound gibberish lyrics which where often also plagiarised. He cynically latched on the civil rights and anti-war movements for a quick buck but in reality the man is a vicious zionist who openly supports ethnic cleansing
>electronic music isn't real music
>music died with Beethoven
>black "music" is even worse
>the guitar was a fucking mistake
>sampling is fucking disgusting and makes me want to kill
>DJs are fucking stupid and so is turntables
>All modern artists are fucking jokes except James Ferraro
>>64614941
He was pretty insecure irl according to multiple sources. Why wouldn't you think so?
>>64614948
kek
>>64614946
>Gibberish Lyrics
just because you have the reading level of a held back fourth grader doesn't mean its gibberish Anon. jus sayin
>>64614964
Well I would think that he was honest in expressing that his act was ambiguously subversive.
>>64614935
Well this is the way I see it.
I feel as if I've known a lot of kids just like Sonic Youth. Rich kids that are extremely pretentious who inherited all of their tastes from their parents and other authority figures. They ride around putting way too much effort into seeming like they're rebellious whenever it's not really a risk for them. Their inspiration came from a drastically different place than artists like Kurt Cobain but claim to be just as valid by feigning obscurity. It's impossible for kids as insecure as Kurt Cobain to not look up to people like that never realizing that it's all a charade. Kids like Sonic Youth don't know any better and push this impossible image onto the vulnerable like Kurt Cobain because they recognize that Kurt has real talent and is very useful. People like Kurt will never get to be people like Sonic Youth.
After that it's all about those kids convincing him to sign onto a major label.
>>64614941
He was insecure about EVERYTHING. He was a very short and frail man that spent his last years as a drug addict. His father left at a young age and soon he left the rest of his family as well. He moved to Olympia where kids like that are constantly exploited into becoming dancing monkeys.
>>64615084
Oh and also Calvin Johnson probably never knew how to reach out to him aswell or cared enough to figure it out. It's all business with these musician kids but none of them ever make it clear. Kurt did.
Business and fame is always way more important to these types than actual compassionate relationships. Kurt was doomed as soon as he started getting any exposure.
No Nirvana song is worth the kid's life.
>>64615067
So? How is that even a point?
>>64614696
the shameless flaunt of ignorance
>>64615161
I think if you really want to appreciate Kurt Cobain then it's important to learn from his mistakes. You DON'T want to be like him. Kurt Cobain didn't even want to be Kurt Cobain. He abandoned his wife and kid and an entire generation that revolved around his every move. None of the success is worth it.
And how did his music really motivate us to be positive people? Do you really think Kurt would agree with the way leftism, feminism, and all those other causes have developed in his shadows? I don't think so. I think as soon as he started seeing what he created it was even more pressure to take his own life. Learn from his mistakes.
>>64615161
>>64615084
I wholeheartedly agree. Great posts.
I only wish the people around him weren't as toxic.
>>64615382
It's all relative. You can argue that they were born into their luxury and naivety just as much as Kurt was born into pain and isolation.
Who really was a better representation of humanity? The monkey or the alien?
>>64614735
>>64614897
yup
Dr. John > Tom Waits > Captain Beefheart
Tom Waits
White Stripes
Radiohead
Beatles
Queen
= fedora
I don't give a shit about Guided By Voices or the Manic Street Preachers
The only GOOD Beach Boys song is Pet Sounds.
The only GOOD Beatles song is Strawberry Fields Forever.
Screamo is surprisingly better, harsher and more creative than Extreme Metal.
Everything touched by Gira after Children of God is utter shit. Everything before that is pure fucking gold.
RAP IS A CORPORATE GENRE
>>64613700
>popular opinion
you're shit
Steely Dan are better than The Beatles
Taylor Swift isn't trash
EL&P aren't trash either
The Final Cut is amazing and should have been released as a solo album
views is good
Medulla is Bjork's best album, or at least on par with Vespertine.
>>64616922
I definitely agree with that last one. Underrated for sure.
>>64614796
>If I don't like it everybody else must be pretending!
My unpopular opinion is that all britpop and grunge bands are fucking awful. Occasionally you'll get a band in either genre (Pulp and Nirvana, respectively) that aren't utter garbage but the rest of it is just mediocre bullshit. Hate those genres so much.
Galaxie 500 are good but On Fire is overrated a lot. They're not a great band at all in my opinion.
Blues, as a genre, is horribly boring and the sole performer who didn't completely and utterly bore to me tears was John Lee Hooker, and even at that I don't particularly like his music too much. Maybe because I don't feel sad for similar reasons and can relate more to white boy sad stuff like The Smiths or something.
>>64617919
Actually going to continue this lol.
Funk is easily one of the greatest genres of all time, and Betty Davis is one of the greatest funk artists to ever live, and on top of that is a superior artist to massive numbers of other people who are far more popular or acclaimed.
Marvin Gaye is overrated and Curtis Mayfield is a better soul musician by far.
Joanna Newsom is a musical genius and one of the greatest western songwriters of the past thirty years and deserves to be thought of in the same light as the likes of Bob Dylan, Nick Drake, Joni Mitchell, Johnny Cash and Neil Young.
Country music is fantastic and incredibly underrated.
>>64618036
One final unpopular opinion.
White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, Filth, Swans are Dead, Soundtracks for the Blind, The Great Annihilator, The Seer and To Be Kind are all clearly better albums than Children of God and there are at least four songs on Children of God that are really poor.
I don't have any unpopular/contrarian/controversial opinions and I'm ok with that.
I think most /mu/core is good, and give the albums I haven't listened to the benefit of the doubt, except for obvious memes.
>>64614333
You can edit the shit out of everything, you know?
>>64614434
I agree, their playing is awful and their singer sounds like a gay guy singing karaoke in a bar.
Kid A is half filler.
>>64618247
what is the filler to you?
>>64613700
Post-reunion Swans are garbage
Only <1% of all rap is even worth listening to
Synthpop revival is one of the worst popular genres
>>64615084
What the fuck are you talking about? Sonic Youth was one of the most influential and important underground no-wave acts alongside early Swans and Glenn Branca. They never feigned obscurity because they were incredibly obscure until Dirty.
Kurt was not any more talented or useful than Sonic Youth. He asked them about joining a major label because he was interested in doing so himself, not because they tried to scam him into signing to their label.
Kill yourself instead of making assumptions. Sonic Youth may have been a band very concerned with their image late in their career, but they were as genuine as it gets until Dirty. Certainly more so than Cobain ever was.
One Hot Minute is the best album RHCP has made
England hasn't put out any good music in 25 years.
I don't really like Swans much. Some albums are ok, but filth sounded annoying the last time I listened to it. Their post-punk sounding albums are tolerable, but they sound like a million other post-punk bands.
>>64615084
I don't get why a rich person liking something is less "rebellious" than a poor person liking it. I've actually lived around poor people most of my life and they are shit-tier humans.
>>64618223
new and exciting ways to create music is a bad thing?
Red hot chili peppers is my favorite band
Amnesiac is better than kid a
>>64618767
Rich is more than just money. It's family and welfare and exposure to the world.
Poor people grow up not even knowing how little they have.
>>64618840
>Poor people grow up not even knowing how little they have.
now thanks to the internet everyone knows everything. start countdown to proletarian world revolution
>>64618895
I'd rather jackoff and shitpost about Nirvana instead.
Every Radiohead album that isn't either Kid A or Hail To The Thief is a literal turd. Fuck Oasis, too.
>>64618895
Good luck starting a world revolution from your basement.
>>64614441
this is not a contrarian opinion
>>64619480
Saying you like Swans, Radio Head, and Sonic Youth is contrarian.
>>64618942
I disagree but I commend you for appreciating their 2 best albums at least.
>>64613700
>radiohead is shit
Indeed it is
RHCP have never released a bad album
>>64614608
holy shit
>>64618036
That Joanna Newsom opinion isn't that unpopular desu
>>64613700
Alot of metalcore is really good, and the genre as a whole gets alot of shit from people who really haven't given it a chance
>>64618223
I don't think that's bad it just means we more or less are getting away from inperfection
>>64618767
> I've actually lived around poor people most of my life and they are shit-tier humans.
Unpopular opinion, I hate poor people. Lemme rephrase that I hate middle class and lower middle class, all they do is complain and bitch and they don't do anything to get forward they get payday advances, they don't strive to invest etc.
And I'm not talking about it in a socio economic kind of way becuase I understand the whole race thing that goes into it, and I understand they can't helpt it but I'll be damned.
I honestly white middle class are some of the laziest most entitled and biggest economic shit stains on the planet, they should be evaucated they do nothing to get forward. They are worst than Blue collar latinos or blacks
>nirvana is shit
>kid a and amnesiac are overrated
>grunge is shit
>Paul Simon is better then Dylan
>I like bon ivers first album
>trout mask replica has alot of filler
>I love kyary pamyu pamyu
>early Madonna is godtier
>burial is better then afx
>>64614869
Slow the fuck down. the Smiths are leagues ahead of the cure. Name one Cure song better than Cemetery Gates
>>64613700
yeezus is better than most of DG discography
IR is one of radiohead's worst albums
MBDTF isn't even that good. there's maybe 4 fantastic tracks and a sea of okay ones.
>>64618374
not him but:
kid a
motion picture soundtrack
treefingers (i love it but it has no place)
morning bell
Most people would disagree but I think your music taste is a very important fashion accessory in how you present yourself
I hate it when people say the beatles weren't that great or that so and so band is better because I feel like people just use it as a way to make themselves seem more diverse in terms of musical taste.
Sigue Sigue Sputnik were fucking cool.
>>64623199
The Beatles are shit. Their music, even at its height of inventiveness, was still w e a k
>>64623279
textbook example
>>64618036
Marvin is the man, but Curtis is the greatest. They make quite different music tho.
>>64623364
I think you're just mad that people don't like the Beatles. Yeah they are culturally important but they're not good
>>64614034
pretentious is a word exclusively used by massive plebs.
TLOP is better than death grips
the unreleased cobain solo material in which the only words are 'betrayal, treachery & marijuana' for 140minutes is more skilful than anything dg has put out
>>64614948
>mfw
>>64614173
This, so much.
>>64623747
I mean I understand how people can not like the beatles there's obviously no band everyone enjoys but when people say they're bad and they only mattered in pop culture I think it's just people who want to be a special snowflake because I doubt anyone can honestly say in full certainty that the beatles never made any good material
>>64614608
i believe you
Marina and the Diamonds is a fantastic artist
>>64618036
Can you rec me a few country albums?
>>64614837
>Pablo Honey is great
>>64613700
>radiohead is shit
Absolutely.
how are anco shit
i know music is ~opinions~ but even if you don't enjoy listening to them i can't see why you would call them shit
in the way that i hate king lear but i still know it's one of his greatest plays etc
>>64622872
Madonna peaked with Ray of Light IMO, dunno if it counts as early Madonna
>>64618657
This
Bob Dylan is shit
Pixies are shit
Pretty much all metal is shit
Charli XCX isn't that attractive
>>64614746
Because the whole point of Noise is to be inaccessible as fuck and only made for those into music
Yr a fag
>>64614608
same
>>64615084
Where'd you read that Sonic Youth is a bunch of rich kids? What do you have against these guys? Damn dude its like thy molested you when you were a kid or something.
>>64622886
>Name one cure song better than Cemetery gates
Most of the songs from the album Disintegration. Plainsong and Pictures of you are leagues ahead of cemetery gates in every conceivable way.
Although I will concede that the smiths might overall be better than cure but certainly not by a huge margin. The cure had a few really great albums with a distinct sound as opposed to consistently good albums by smiths which weren't to variant.
>>64625426
Hank Williams - 40 Greatest Hits (you obviously don't need to listen to all 40 songs but this is a great collection)
Townes Van Zandt - s/t
Patsy Cline - Patsy Cline's Greatest Hits
Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison
Johnny Cash - American III: Solitary Man
Willie Nelson - Phases and Stages
The neglected Buckley album.
Radiohead is mediocre at best
IAOTS is an utter pile of dogshit
Mumford & Sons are enjoyable
Bob Dylan is annoying as shit
The Beatles, though definitely worthy of respect from an academic standpoint, really aren't that great
Death Grips sucks a fuck
Die Antwoord too
All I can think of at the moment
I will never understand why ITAOTS gets the hate that it does here.
As a newfag, can someone care to explain? Is it because that it has been memed excessively here to the point that people attempt to be contrarian by needlessly spewing hate on it?
Someone just explain why it's hated so much by /mu/
>>64628550
When it first came on the scene, /mu/ generally was full-on erect over it. But as with most things, it's popularity grew too much to be avant-garde and hipster so everyone flipped to the other side and hated it more than anything.
Fickle bastards.
>>64614620
I'm not usually on the SIDF, but the whining in The Smiths is always self aware, and there's songs like I Know it's Over that demonstrate perspective and emotional maturity.
Beach Boys >>>>>> Beatles
Weezer are better than Pixies, people only pretend to like them more because they're hipsters who appreciate style over good songwriting and music
Take away the historical significance and The Beatles still put out some solid albums. Sgt Pepper, Abbey Road, Revolver, and Rubber Soul still hold up.
And Utada Hikaru had a couple of English songs. Kremlin Dusk is great.
Phil collins > Peter gabriel
>>64614869
There is so much truth in this post it hurts.
>>64617647
>Medulla is Bjork's best album
Yes.
>>64628692
>When it first came on the scene, /mu/ generally was full-on erect over it.
You do realize that this album predates /mu/ by many, many years?
>>64630031
Is that really debatable?
>>64627413
I think Bob Dylan and The Pixies are both supremely overrated. They have a couple of good songs and a whole lot of meh.
>>64613700
YES
YES
AND SOSO
I like unty
Side A > Side B
>>64630670
oh shit
>>64629424
actually a pretty popular contrarian position
>>64629455
>implying hipsters don't also love Weezer
>implying Pixies weren't more influential
>>64630670
stop posting
The White album is the worst Weezer release since Raditude.
>>64614946
>gibberish lyrics
>guy was on the shortlist of the Nobel Price for Literature several times
>gibberish lyrics
Certified pleb.
>>64618393
>"Synthpop revival is one of the worst popular genres"
THANK YOU
>>64628550
it's very difficult to find a legit discussion about ITAOTS here that isn't just straight memeing
>>64630733
pixies also had better songwriting and musicianship
>>64629455
incubus and third eye blind are better than weezer
>>64630670
disgusting
>>64629455
the only reason weezer are held so far above other 90s alt rock bands is because hipsters appreciate a band's lore over anything else
worst offender: les rallizes denudes. that band and their fans deserve all the backlash theyve gotten recently
>>64613712
>>64613773
Lmao look at these plebs
>>64630670
What the fuck is wrong with you senpai?
>>64631162
I like LRD, but I totally agree. Few other groups are as mythologized as them, especially by people who have head very little by them and of Japanese psych as a whole.
