If /mu/ existed in 1992 who would we have sided with?
>wearing american flag shorts unironically
This is a stupid question.
Neither
Kurt is a phony """depressed""" tumblr browser and axl is a redditor who probably likes bohemian rhapsody
/mu/ in 1992 would be entirely ween and my bloody valentine shitposting
>>64587170
>irony
Go back to English class faggot, we're axlposting here
>>64587218
look at axl trying to be grunge in his flannel shirt
>>64587143
Kurdt
>>64587208
>Kurt is a phony """depressed""" tumblr browser and axl is a redditor who probably likes bohemian rhapsody
No wonder everyone hates Millenials
Varg
>That Mustang
Obviously Kurt
>>64587243
"I grew up in a trailer park" isn't "trying to be grunge"
Reminder that Axl was a Nirvana fan and asked them twice to tour with GnR
>>64587478
He's still a fan, he wore a Nirvana shirt in some of the recent GN'R gigs. Also he seems to be m8s with Dave Grohl. I think the 'beef' between the two was mostly on Kurt's side, he just didn't like Axl for some reason.
more interestingly, Who Won?
Current /mu/ would have largely sided with Axl and Kurt would be deemed a "nu-male." For better or for worse I'd imagine that's exactly how grunge vs. hair metal would go down.
Kurt was just pretending to feud with Axel to make big bucks. He supported the narrative that he was killing hair metal, which Gen X normies believe to this day, and he made some sweet cash, and then Courtney killed him in a rage when she realized Hole will never be as good as Babes in Toyland.
>>64587684
Wasn't the reason Kurt disliked him because he thought Axl was a racist homophobe?
Kurt would get called a SJW, cuck etc. on here every day
>>64587608
meh bit both probs desu famm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bh55xA2KSs
>>64587684
>>64587713
GN'R weren't hair metal. They were hard rock. They were still the biggest band in the world when Nirvana supposedly killed off hair metal.
>>64587768
god he was such an insufferable faggot
>>64587806
that vid is cringe isn't it?
>>64587143
I don't know who the majority would side with but Nirvana is actually decent and guns and roses is shit
Plus axl is a tool
>>64587771
Yeah I was wrong there actually. I've always liked Guns n' Roses, thought they had a lot more going for them than your typical 80's arena rock band. Probably prefer them to Nirvana, in all honesty.
>>64587727
What he was doing though, was way before social justice was trendy.
>>64587880
Nirvana sucks. They just got lucky that 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' was such a big radio hit, because they were the worst out of all the Seattle bands.
The riot girl scene was way better than anything either of those hacks put out
Kurt Cobain for his music but Axl Rose for their feud in particular.
>>64587771
this
>>64587943
You have no idea what you're talking about
If /mu/ was around in the 90's would it mainly side with east coast or west coast?
>>64588358
I don't even get the story. What were they feuding about?
>>64588358
they'd tell you to fuck off with your dead hacks
>>64588358
i was west coast at the time but i'm more of a Biggie guy now
>>64587608
that's because Kurt was a bitch and a contrarian.
>>64588358
West > East
Biggie > Pac
Anyone who says anything else is wrong.
>>64588975
Why are you so angry that a man didn't like another man?
>>64587681
What band is this
>>64587143
You weren't in /mu/ in 1992? fucking newfag
>>64588285
Nirvana were dogshit compared to Soundgarden
>>64589306
this is the truth
neither, I would sided with this man
>>64589778
You're moving goalposts and are still wrong
>>64589778
now THIS is a contrarian opinion
>>64589820
If /mu/ had existed in 1992 then Billy Corgan would be that era's Kanye
>>64587143
Kurt's an annoying, whiny pussy but Axl is a fucking douche who litters the world with insipid garbage music, so I'd take Kurt out of those two.
>>64589778
true, but nirvana were dogshit compared to most good music
>1992
Broken era Trent Reznor. Nirvana and Guns and Roses would be too mainstream.
>>64588358
obviously biggie with songs like suicidal thoughts and who shot ya
>>64587143
definitely kurt for his opinions and innovative music but i think a large portion would be with g'nr for their musicmanship
>>64589913
>kurt
>innovative music
>>64589778
Yeah Soundgarden was certainly better.
>>64587170
Considering how much of mu seem to love Trump I think the american flag shorts would just make them like Axl more.
>>64588358
When I was younger, Tupac. Now it would be Biggie. Biggie wasn't a SJW. He lived in the real world and just wanted to get by and have as much as fun as he could. I can respect that far more.
>>64589386
Best guess for this image: teddy girl
>>64589911
>tfw Cobain hated Reznor
>tfw months after Cobain An Heroed, he was plowing Courtney and calling her 'too fucked up to tour with' at the same time.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
>>64587208
We could have seen the massive backlash from the black album as well.
>>64590025
>cobain hated reznor
source
>>64589899
>>64589943
This has to be the same person
Good Seattle band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MedWj08nqIY
>>64590067
>>64589932
>kurt
>not innovative music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in58wtVI9sI
>>64590106
I don't believe you
>>64590392
I wish I could prove it but you'll have to take my word
>>64587913
This, the only reason 4chan is more right wing today is because the world is more left wing, 4chan is contratian ti whoever runs the world at the time.
>>64587208
holy shit you see life as websites, pls get help anon
>>64588975
So basically 4chan?
>>64590025
this makes me sad, why did kurt have to fall in love with that septic tank on legs
I personally would have most defiantly sided with Kurt. /mu/ would hate them both because /mu/ doesn't like music.
>>64587208
i don't want to say this is what would probably happen because i know for a fact this is exactly 100% what would happen and i agree with the sentiments about kurdt and axl. just throw swans in there too to round off the "contemporary" /mu/core.
>>64589820
ahahaha thats my boy
>>64588358
current /mu/ prefers biggie
i can only see 90's /mu/ also preferring biggie again
>>64587608
Yeah even though I prefer Kurt it sounded like he started the beef. I think Axl was trying to invite them on tour and Kurt was really rude to him and it just escalated from there.
>>64587608
>Yeah even though I prefer Kurt it sounded like he started the beef. I think Axl was trying to invite them on tour and Kurt was really rude to him and it just escalated from there.
>>64587768
damn corporate establishment so bad damn
>>64590450
your a dorable
>>64587208
/mu/ in 92 wpuld have been entirely spiderland, loveless, down colorful hill and nevermind shitposting, don't deny it
>>64587143
I would have sided with Britpop and Liam and Noel Gallagher because grunge is shitty music for teenagers.
>>64589913
>nirvana
>innovative
wew lad
>>64590051
He could be referring to in the Unplugged concert when Kurt sarcastically said "we could be playing Nine Inch Nails songs instead" or something like that, but Idk if thats what he was talking about.
>>64590795
>>64589932
I bet you're one of those people that thinks complex chord structures and time signatures is what makes innovative music
>>64590837
nirvana wasn't innovative by any existent metric
Don't even pretend 1992 /mu/ wouldn't have been sucking U2's cock after ZooTV. Achtung Baby would be permanent /mu/core.
>>64590915
>I've only heard the Nirvana songs with 50 million+ views on Youtube: the post
>>64591054
Zooropa would have been the JENNY DEATH WHEN of 1992.
>>64591068
lmao i've heard all their releases + tons of live performances
I'm a fan, but I'm not retarded
there's nothing innovative about nirvana
>>64591155
>>64590915
They were for pop music, people seem to forget that you can't judge verse-chorus-verse type music on the same spectrum as like a Swans record. They're two entirely different things, they're both innovative in their own way.
Here, listen to this and tell me this isn't fucking innovative for 1988, even today it would be great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_ESVHhzMlk
Listen to those vocal melodies, and the song's progression in general. The lyrics, the sound of the guitar, the minimalist approach simultaneously making something so hard hitting. It's great.
>Leave AOTY to us
>>64590067
Nope, Nirvana was great but Soundgarden was even better. That's just the way it is.
>>64590784
This, you Americans can keep your shit grunge music. Who wants to listen to some junkie moan about how much he hated himself while making millions and being the biggest rockstar in the world and pretending to hate it, fuck that. At least oasis had some optimism, they came from nothing and wanted to enjoy life, be the biggest band in the world, live like rock stars and they weren't afraid to show it.
>>64591278
Fuck yourself. Nevermind and In Utero are better than anything they ever did.
>>64591278
Soundgarden are the 90s equivalent of what Dire Straits were in the 80s. They're irrelevant and only people who were young when they were popular give a shit about them.
>>64589820
>>64589853
This.
>>64591328
>>64591364
Dealing with it or not dealing with it is up to you, but it doesn't change the fact that they were great (and better than Nirvana).
Nirvana
Anyone who thinks otherwise is being disingenuous,
>>64591468
>because I say so
Counter my argument fag. They never made an album better than Nirvana's best. None of the grunge bands did.
>>64591468
Literally only reason Soundgarden became anything was because of Nirvana's popularity and whole 'grunge' scene.
There is no definite answer but objectively I think all we know which band was more profound and compelling even to this day.
Melvins > AiC > Soundgarden > Nirvana > Mudhoney > STP > literal shit > Pearl Jam
>>64591518
>They never made an album better than Nirvana's best.
>because I say so
>please respond
>>64591596
Give me a Soundgarden album that's better, please so I can laugh at you
>>64591595
This
>>64591596
> avoiding the question because he knows he's wrong
no cares that you're different
>>64591595
jesus christ this is so wrong. you really think the fucking Melvins are better than all of those bands? Get real, senpai
Nirvana = Soundgarden > Pearl Jam > AiC > Melvins > Mudhoney > literal shit > STP
STP were the biggest fucking ripoffs of Nirvana.
![57894680da4a44df9859ccac430f717b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tBbPxDh.jpg "57894680da4a44df9859ccac430f717b[1].jpg")
>>64587143
I feel like /mu/ would have had a big TAD following, much bigger than they ever had in real-life. TAD would be considered the grunge "purists" while Nirvana et. al. would be bashed as sellouts.
>>64591668
AiC > Nirvana = Soundgarden > Pearl Jam >>>> > Melvins > Mudhoney > literal shit > STP > The Holocaust > Bush
>>64591595
Nirvana > Black Flag = Scratch Acid > power gap >>> Melvins >>>> Mudhoney > literal shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power gap 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cancer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the other bands that capitalized from Nirvana's success
>>64591626
>>64591658
Nirvana fanboys gettin mad up in here
What's the worst Soundgarden album? That one. Except KA. Nirvana's worst is still better than that.
Soundgarden's only good album is Ultramega OK.
Actually
AiC > Nirvana = Soundgarden > Pearl Jam >>>> > Melvins > Mudhoney > literal shit > STP > The Holocaust >>>>>>> Bush >>>>>>> Our Lady Peace
>>64591691
Nirvana weren't 'grunge'.
![tumblr_m9f092MLOQ1rsmqs3o1_1280[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZzCVYj9.jpg "tumblr_m9f092MLOQ1rsmqs3o1_1280[1].jpg")
>>64591325
>Muh Britpop!
Some of it was okay, but let's not kid ourselves - it became a self-parody fairly quickly.
>>64591708
>Pearl Jam better than Melvins
lol what a shit taste kill yourself today
>>64591733
this tbhfqau
>>64587143
>Fast forward 6 years
>ITAOTS drops
How does 1998 /mu/ respond to this album?
>>64591798
Sorry, I copy and pasted. Pearl Jam is so forgettable that I didn't even notice it listed. Fixed
AiC > Nirvana = Soundgarden > >>>> > Melvins > Mudhoney > literal shit > Pearl Jam > STP > The Holocaust >>>>>>> Bush >>>>>>>> Our Lady Peace > Eating your pregnant wife's fetus while still in the womb > Godsmack
>>64591325
Grunge helped inspire britpop
>>64591817
The same way we reacted to Hospice in 2009 but then we forget about it until the 2005 reissue.
This is what actually happened.
>>64591708
I can level with this, except still.
Bush > STP
That's right. I just blew your fucking mind.
>>64591920
this is true
>>64591798
>>64591858
Pearl Jam I was kind of on the fence about because I've only ever listened to Ten, and that album alone is awesome
>>64591325
Thanks Noel, I am glad you post here
>>64591668
>dey do duh same loud-soft-loud dynamic so dat meens dey duh same
Thanks, Mo Rocca.
>>64591858
updated list for all the plebfags to see:
Nirvana = Soundgarden > AiC >>>> Melvins > Mudhoney >>>> most underground bands in the scene >>>> Pearl Jam >>>> white trash hicks >>>> Sublime > RHCP >>>> literal shit >>> Audioslave > Bush > STP > the Holocaust >>> Godsmack >>>> eating smegma out of an uncut asians dick >>>> Smashmouth
>>64592106
I was referring to the singer's voice mainly. And some of the vocal melodies and hooks. Almost as bad as that one Bush song. But Bush actually have some cool Post-Hardcore sounding dynamics sometimes, so I think higher of them
>>64591668
>jesus christ this is so wrong. you really think the fucking Melvins are better than all of those bands? Get real, senpai
This. I love Melvins, they're incredible at their best and all but their crap:great ratio is extremely lopsided and that gets swept under the rug due to their reputation for being impeccably cool.
>>64592186
Oh and I forgot to include this in my post
But as for AiC, they are a great band and I was thinking of putting them in first place, but sorry, a band where 90% of their songs are about heroin just doesn't cut it for me.
>>64592244
They're not known for being impeccably cool, they're not even well known at all. They just have underground cred. That's about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Zuc83-IWI
In utero is better than nevermind.
Grunge would have a meme-like following (and an equally sized hatred), much like with stuff such as Witch House and Vaporwave.
I'd expect something like Grunge speak being ironically popular here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge_speak
How would /mu/ react on Sonic Youth?
>>64592363
They would be even edgier about SY than they are now because them selling out would still be fresh.
>>64592351
True. Nevermind was more significant, but in utero was just a better album.
>>64592304
>they're not even well known at all.
Bull. They weren't Nirvana huge by any stretch but they're hardly obscure either.
>They just have underground cred.
Which they're kind of legends for.
>ctrl + f Pavement
>0 results
>>64587286
^^^
>>64587713
>Kurt was just pretending to feud with Axel to make big bucks
This has been confirmed by Kirk Hammet.
He was friends with Kurt has said that Kurt was massive Metallica fan (and Kiss too).
Kurt even diguised himself to get into the moshpit when Metallica played Seattle........all while Hetfield was "feuding" with Nirvana (and also Axl).
>>64592754
When did Nirvana feud with Metallica? And what does that have to do with GnR?
>>64591588
this guy gets it
>>64587208
You're exclusivity is just autism. Autistic people are picky eaters too.
I shook Chris Cornell's hand once and he said I looked like a neighbor he had as a kid.
I have nothing else to contribute.
>>64591588
Soundgarden was on a major when Nirvana was still on SP. They were doing just fine.
>There is no definite answer but objectively I think all we know which band was more profound and compelling even to this day.
These really aren't the best words to use if you're trying to argue Nirvana over Soundgarden.
>>64593104
>These really aren't the best words to use if you're trying to argue Nirvana over
Soundgarden
Uh yes they are. Nirvanas whole discography is still revered today, here and elsewhere. Soundgarden? I guess they made black hole sun
>>64593172
>Uh yes they are.
Popular would be the word. Not profound or compelling.
>>64593172
>whole discography
You cannot deny there were some turds my guy.
>>64593237
That's your opinion. I would definitely call In Utero compelling. The raw emotion from Kurt's shriek was profound.
>>64593242
All their albums are good
>>64587208
> phony """depressed"""
> literally was a heroin addict who killed himself
wew lad
>>64587286
Anyone born around the early 80's and after is a millennial. Shut the fuck up with this stupid shit.
Chris Cornell has always been a poser. He saw what was happening around him and emulated it until Grunge ran out of steam, then he formed Audioslave to capitalize on the revival of the 'Supergroup' era that was caused by Velvet Revolver, then when that phase faded faster then nu-metal, decided to do the solo collaborator shit with people like Timbaland.
Pac was the most recent influential. Biggie was JUST
>>64593457
>Trent Reznor bitches about what other musicians are doing
What else is new?
>>64587208
yeah mosy likely. way too normie for /mu/
>>64591942
considering /mu/ didn't exist in 2005, no it isn't.
>>64590284
this
>>64593172
Soundgarden has two outstanding albums.
Nirvana was easier to commercialize. Claiming Kurt is a better singer and "ma raw emotion" is laughable.
>>64593457
haha forgot about that shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pcWbnQDMD0
>>64593910
Nirvana was not inherently easier to commercialize. Who would've ever guessed they would make Nevermind after Bleach? Soundgarden on the other hand was the Seattle band everyone thought would be the first to break. They were the first signed to a major. My comment about Kurt's voice wasn't in comparison to them.
>>64593910
But also it isn't laughable at all. Kurt and Chris arent comparable singers first of all, but in a heavy rock context I would take Kurt's voice any day of the week.
>>64593457
that Strobe Light album was a joke put on the website around the release of the Slip, I remember that.
>>64594081
Yeah, It's was an April Fools day prank. 2009 was The Year of the Miserable Cunt for Reznor. He got a little too into Twitter.
>>64589778
Pearl Jam = Alice in Chains > Soundgarden > Nirvana
Prove me wrong
>>64594176
>"Yeah" rock band
>Better than anything
kek
>>64594176
Nobody has the time for your nonsense
>>64594136
I've never had a Twitter, what was going on that year that I missed?
>>64594221
Dunno man, at least Alice and Chains and Pearl Jam had more than one good album. Nirvana's only good album was Bleach. In my top 15, actually.
>>64594136
everyone did, people didn't know how to handle twitter for a very long time, people are getting better but some people still can't handle it (joel)
>>64594244
No love for In Utero?
>>64594244
Pull a Kurt and top yourself
>>64594262
Good, sure, but I prefer the angsty sound of Alice in Chains.
>>64594176
Pearl Jam's most heralded material is their arena rock and power ballad bullshit.
I can't name an ep's worth of songs I'd want to listen to from AiC
>>64587208
>axl
Jesus christ every time I visit here to see what's up this shithole just confirms itself as the worst fucking board.
>>64594233
/b/ without anonymity
/mu/ would've loved Nirvana pre Nevermind, once they blew up they would've dropped them and called them reddit and make shitposts about them. Then they'd start to support GNR ironically.
>>64594176
I don't agree with this ranking but I love all four of those bands dearly and nothing will ever change that.
>>64588209
truth
Nirvana is only fondly remember because Kurt killed himself at the right time. If he were still alive no one but 40 year old white men would care about Nirvana
>>64590284
terrible
>>64594366
Agreed, but what I dislike about Nirvana is how much praise they get from normies who have only heard one of their songs, then say they're fans and totally neglect Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, etc.
>>64594444
Quads of truth.
>>64594444
Didn't bother to finish my post. GnR also sucks
>>64591249
this shit is ripping off the melvins in almost every way. no joke. i do like nirvana, but this is in no way original.
>>64594528
So like any musician or artist their work indicative of what their interest are?
But naw nigga they ripped them off know what i'm sayin
>>64594077
both sing around baritone
both use strained voice
>>64594077
>Thayil moved to Seattle with Pavitt
epic lore
idk Who would have guessed they would have sided their attempts at shadowing the Melvins? Commercial music demands easily digestible material with catchy hooks. Kurt could write great songs and his guitar work was really marginal, so it's a perfect match.
>>64594484
That's true but it's not really Nirvana's fault, just like it's not Pearl Jam's fault some crappy bands decided to rip them off in the early 00s. I'll defend those other bands forever (including Soundgarden in this thread) but Nirvana does deserve their praise, even if it does take some attention off the other deserving bands. And with all the lonely depressed guys on this board it's kind of easy to understand where the Nirvana fascination comes from.
>>64594444
witnessed
>>64594444
agreed also quads
>>64594321
You've been sha-na-na-na-na Thunderstruck
-Axl DC
>>64594579
no i mean kurt himself admitted he straight up started nirvana as a melvins ripoff band -- didnt say the didnt progress past that but just fucking compare grohl's sound pre-dale crover to his sound after they were touring with melvins and deny that shit son
>>64594595
The major difference is Cornell's range. He sings more in the classic hard rock style. Kurt was more prone to use his voice as an instrument, not too concerned with how perfect he sounded. Two polar approaches.
>>64594672
This. I don't know where that comparison comes from.
>>64587608
>for some reason
Who on Earth even likes Axl?
