I'm about to try heroin for the first time. (Snorting, not IV)
What music should I listen to?
>>64567518
radiohead - the velvet underground - we are slowly disappearing white twitter page and no onlibe social media presence with shitty new claymation wicker man video
Don't
the sounds of the dirt in your future grave
>>64567539
this
diiv is straight up heroin core
>>64567518
you should probably just not do Heroin
maybe go for a bike ride or something instead
>>64567565
What does dirt sound like?
>>64567518
Don't do heroin. It's not even worth trying once. I'm an recovering heroine addict and I started snorting it and it gets out of hand. Take my advice and don't do it.
>>64567577
bangers
>>64567577
>>64567573
>>64567565
>>64567563
Yeah man don't do heroin, play tennis or sum shit
>>64567577
Like when you die and you can't live anymore
Is there anyone who does heroin who isn't a junkie loser? Like are there people who do heroin the same way your average 20-25 year old smokes weed?
>>64567518
anon, dont do it !!
>>64567518
Listen to Heroin, duh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8qecIlAWN4
Listen to ambient music and lay in the dark then never do heroin again no matter how blissful it felt
i remember reading this thing about a guy trying heroin for the first time and how he got it for free. Then he wrote about how nice heroin felt. A year later he followed up about how heroin completely wrecked his life and how he thought something like that could never happen to him. Completely put me off ever even trying it
>>64567563
>>64567565
>>64567573
>>64567598
>>64567635
>>64567629
The D.A.R.E. brainwashing in strong in this thread. Try it op as long as you don't have shit willpower you probably won't get addicted to it. And don't IV it, that's bad news. Listen to pic related, it actually sounds really nice.
Marcy Playground
>>64567695
>don't let them get you down man, Heroin's really cool
>but don't inject, that'll kill you
>>64567695
Absolutely don't listen to this edgy teenager.
>>64567518
My cousin died on Christmas this year from heroin. He was clean for a few months before it happened too.
My other cousin is a toothless 35 year old addict loser who suspiciously met some guy right after the funeral in my aunt's driveway and didn't come inside for awhile. When he did he was in a really weird happy mood. Can't imagine why.
Stuff does wonders for you and the people around you.
Have fun OP!
>>64567518
do it!! just advising try not to get addicted tho seriously.
>>64567629
Literally everyone I've ever known whose done heroin has not come out of it without problems.
>>64567730
>Christmas this year
>>64567750
err...this past Christmas*
...my bad
>>64567563
>>64567518
Legit, just smoke some weed bro. Shit isn't worth it.
>>64567518
oh yeah better snort it, because you gotta have standards when doing heroin
regardless of whether you choose to do it or not, Marcy Playground is what you should listen to on heroin
>>64567629
I think there are. I've known some guys who used to do heroin in their 20's and they came out ok. Although all of them stopped using for good by the time I met them.
The way I understand it is that most people start out using it kind of like weed. Just once or twice a week. Most weed smokers I've known (myself included) usually have at least some period in their life where they start smoking more than once a week to the point where it's at least once a day. It's not so bad with weed because it's pretty easy to quit but I think heroin seems harmless at first but then by the time you get to the point where you're using every day it becomes VERY difficult to quit. Unlike weed.
Doing drugs is degenerate OP
>>64567518
Fuck listening...you about to write some sick music b
niandra lades and usually just a tshirt
If your serious about doing it, listen to something you really love. If you allow yourself to get addicted, hearing that song will make you wish you weren't retarded. Don't get addicted nigger, have fun n shit but know when you're going under, it's a shitty life in and out of jails/rehab/homes. But really I'd listen to something like really fast when you're on the come up, when you're nodding off, some prog rock is nice.
>>64567789
>Being degenerate is being degenerate
>>64567727
>>64567728
>>64567763
>>64567765
>>64567789
>>64567813
Don't listen to these morons. Just because these losers have shit willpower doesn't mean everyone does.
>>64567730
Your cousins sound like irresponsible morons that don't know how to handle drugs correctly. They would have likely died from an alcohol overdose if they never used heroin.
>>64567881
Has shitposting gone too far?
>>64567881
>Doing drugs is willpower
No, doing drugs is being a social conformer as well as a fucking hack who only enjoys life being tied to a manufactured substance.
What a meeger existence that is to become addicted to something for the purpose of trying to find joy out of life.
I will never depend on Tyrone for happiness ever.
trust me op drugs are great
>>64567881
So how do you know OP doesn't have shit willpower like the rest of these losers?
>>64567958
hope you realize that whenever someone sees your trip they instantly move onto the next post without reading yours
>>64567970
Because
>Dude weed lmao
Know what I'm saying?
lol ok doc
>>64567958
type of faggot who drinks coffee every morning
>>64567958
who the fuck is Tyrone?
scrimzoola was made for dopefiends.
https://soundcloud.com/scrimzoola
>>64567991
Then when will >>64567881 & >>64567695
Get a trip?
>>64567915
"I disagree with him, therefore he's a shitposting troll!"
>>64567958
Dude Oasis lmao!
>>64567970
He might. That's up for him to decide not a bunch of D.A.R.E. infected /mu/ children.
>>64568045
hahaha you cannot possibly be this edgy
>>64568020
Your local drug dealer.
Could be Cleatus too depending on where you live.
>>64568017
That is not a addiction, caffeine pills are but I can go a day without fucking coffee. Also my teeth don't call out of my mouth if I drink coffee nor is there the possibility of a OD.
Your parents would be so dissapointed if they found out their son or daughter OD's because they were a pathetic waste of life addicted to drugs.
>>64567991
thats not true because I get the most (you)'s out of anyone on this board including yourself
I've been doing heroin for a few years. I OD'ed the other day and was taken to the hospital.
Pic related, listen to this, I've been digging this lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mPu9RX_Pg
dont worry op you cant die cause lp9 is not out yet and you have listen to that so do as much as you can
>>64568045
I hope you OD on a bad amount of heroin and die in a gutter.
Druggies are annoying and the scum of this earth as far as I am concerned. Almost...ALMOST as bad as fans of Grimes
>>64568076
Nice rebuttal! Really trying hard with that one!
>>64568114
"I like real "music"! Oasis, shitty indie, the list does on!"
>>64567518
Don't do heroin please.
>>64568126
Not even that guy but you'll literally dismiss any point anyone will make whit
>Dude weed lmao drugs are great xdddd
what's wrong with alcoholism? kids these days
>>64567518
Don't listen to these losers. Do you really want to take advice from pathetic hypocritical no lifing shitposting trolls like Montie? Just try it once, you'll be okay.
>>64568178
This nigga
>>64568083
Actually, on a more serious note, this is what I was listening to when I OD'ed and you will probably love this.
>>64568203
But what arguments do you have so he can trust you instead
>>64568178
>>64568204
Alcohol can actually be more dangerous then heroin, you can't actually die from heroin withdrawal for instance.
>>64567518
Radiohead to who get a box of whippits while your High and crack those off
>>64568126
>a bunch of D.A.R.E. infected /mu/ children
No, you have to be trolling. No one seriously talks like that, even on here. That is literally cringe tier. You're like a YouTube comment on a Tool video.
>>64568232
Thanks doc
>>64568177
Never said that, you sound like a 10 year old dare kid.
>>64568258
Nice rebuttal dare kid! Really stung me with that zinger!
>>64568275
He's still at it!
>>64568258
Don't worry he'll be dead within the next couple of years with an attitude like that.
>>64568178
"I prefer real addictions with real side effects! Cirrhosis, deadly withdrawals, the list goes on!"
>>64567789
haha good one montie
>>64568296
>>64568275
I honestly don't know anymore, this poor soul is unredemable, the autism has taken over
i have the biggest shit eating grin reading your posts calling me and others dare kids holy fuck
>>64568316
Not even trying now.
>>64568325
I don't even use heroin anymore. I took it a few times in the past and never used it again.
>>64568351
>autism
I guessed your age wrong, 10 was too high.
>>64568355
It never hurts to laugh at yourself every now and then, bravo.
>>64568232
don't care. martinis are one of the greatest inventions on this earth.
>>64568371
Oh no he's saying he's used drugs before now
Oh nooooo
>>64568371
>you calling me edgy is different than me calling people dare kids
>>64568156
It's almost like you don't look at my RYM you gay.
>>64568404
>>64568425
My previous post was a lie, I actually did get addicted to heroin, then I overdosed and died.
>>64568404
>I know you are but what am I
>>64568178
because alcohol is a shit tier, boring drug that people only consume because its legal that destroys your liver whereas pure heroin isnt boring or shit and doesnt destroy your liver
>>64568439
At least I don't waste time posting reaction gifs.
>>64568449
Dude shitty Indie and one token Fahey album!
>>64568461
(You)
>>64568462
Thank God you're died
>>64567518
I'm not saying you should. I'm not saying you shouldn't. But I am saying music would probably be dope again if more people did.
>>64568509
Yeah, I deserved it desu.
>>64568527
I don't know who's who anymore
>>64568498
Oh my good lord....you're on an imageboard.
>>64567518
Listen to some Merzbow, noise always sounds great on h.
>>64568498
Why are you still posting
>shitty indie
You probably like shitty noise music and tape music don't you?
>>64568483
sorry man, but alcohol has culinary value and is quite enjoyable with a meals and social situations. heroin is degenerate and is only good or bums to pass out on their dirty couch to.
>>64568579
"I listen to real music! None of that noisy ear raping poseur trash, just good wholesome indie!"
>>64568645
If you don't agree whit this post you're a
>degenerate
>>64568645
Alcohol is degenerate too, and so are all other drugs and sex. But being degenerate is fun so what's the problem?
>>64567763
>>64567518
This, OP. Weed is infinitely better. from personal experience. If you're gonna do drugs, just snorkel some weed.
>>64568736
My friend huffed a few marijuanas and died, stay far away from that degenerate crap.
Just fucking do it OP
You're going to do it anyway so just have the time of your life.
>>64567518
Definitely Spacemen 3 or early Spiritualized, though I'd say Spacemen 3 is probably better suited to opiate listening
Never fucking IV
If you're going to do it then you're going to do it but I don't even think you should snort it, plus even snorting it can be deadly
>>64567695
Probably anybody that does heroin (as well as someone that uses /mu/) has shit willpower
>>64567518
My heroin addiction ruined everything good I had in my life. My friends and family disowned me because of the degeneracy I had become. Sure, they tried to help me at first but after a while I became a burden on everyone. If I could go back in time and change one thing in my past it would be to stop myself from trying it and isolate myself from anybody that encouraged it. I am much better off now but not on par to how I was before. I still get intense cravings to this day. It's a slippery slope and I don't know many heroin addicts that are alive much less a productive member of society to this day. So whenever I see someone vocally express their curiosity about it I have to coin my experience with it. In the end, nothing I say will probably change your mind but it brings me satisfaction in knowing that I tried. Stay safe OP
>>64568219
>>64568083
These would be fucking radical with heroin honestly
Don't do it, OP.
How similar is oxycodone to heroin?
>>64568692
well being degenerate is definite not okay i suppose exceptions can be made if you do no harm to others
one more thing
>fun
are you a pleb or something?
>>64567518
Southpacific -Constance
>>64568736
>inhaling carcinogenic smoke
>>64567518
I did it once and didn't again, but listened to Raw Power
>>64569109
>carcinogenic
>>64568949
Thank you for using your experiences to a positive influence.
>>64568945
>Probably anybody that does heroin (as well as someone that uses /mu/) has shit willpower
You could say the same thing about anyone who does any drug or has sex, there's nothing wrong with trying different things, just be safe about it.
>>64568949
Nice made up story, you find that on a D.A.R.E forum?
>>64569060
So you are saying nobody is okay? I don't disagree with that.
>>64569264
Except not all things are able to be tried safely even with good willpower
The fact of the addiction potential itself confounds any amount of willpower, some people are better than others in that regard but it's in no way something that would make trying fucking heroin any less dangerous/risky
>>64569328
It depends on the person, I wouldn't recommend everyone try heroin, but if you had good willpower with drugs in the past and want to try it then I say give it a go.
>>64569264
yes. No one can make the right decision every time. Even I, that has strived to make the intellectual decision, has strayed for brief moments of mindless pleasures and have disregarded the well being of others for my favor.
for example, in this moment i have nothing to do and have decided to indulge in hedonism for the night. i have had three drinks and spend my time here and listening to haydn. in this state i am in no position to help others but i still have mind enough to cause no harm. Still, i would never in my inebriated state go so low as to listen to rock music.
to reiterate, degeneracy is fine, as long as precautions to harm no one but yourself are made.
>>64569264
Wait, so...you guys will take a drug and not know whether or not you liked it until you listen a few more times? That's so weird. Does that carry over into every aspect of your daily life? I can't imagine how hard it must be for people like you to form opinions on things. Like someone asks you if you like the food you're eating and you go, "Gee I dunno, I need to eat it three more times." If you got raped would the experience be completely neutral for you until you got raped some more? Jesus, what blank slates of men you are. To think that your cognitive ability, not to mention your faith thereof, is so pathetically nonexistent that you hesitate to determine whether or not you enjoy something for fear of being incorrect in your judgment. It baffles the mind. I'm getting dumber just thinking of it. Fuck. Please tell me you're not serious. I don't think I can share a board--nay, a planet--with the likes of such spineless, cowardly weaklings.
>golly gee, the d.a.r.e kids will never know how great this makes me feel 0_o ...gonna take a few more hits t o complete my extensive theoretical analysis (all internalized and unrecorded, of course :P ))! maybe mommy will give me good boy points for comprehending the great intricacies underlying edgy heroin users and the junkies!!
I hate you. I hate everything you stand for. I hate the way you have infiltrated the once good nature of this board, and I hate the opinions you have yet to form. For my sake, for everyone's sake, please never post again. I realize you'll have to read this at least six more times to fully grasp the meaning behind these words, but once you do I sincerely hope you leave. Permanently.
>>64569264
>mfw this faggot doesn't take a bite out of crime
>>64569496
and to think this copypasta was only made today
this is some fresh linguine right here
>>64569496
epic
i hope op is already high as fuck ignoring this stupid ass thread
>>64567518
>>64569926
it's only been an hour. i thought heroin peaked at 2 or so. seems like an okay if not music related discussion. you seem a little stressed. may i suggest a martini?
>>64567518
Actually this is an obvious question but it's not what you might think. Let me explain it to you, I've been an opiate addict for a long time and tried many drugs. Drugs that are 'uppers' have the most 'obvious' euphoria. For example if you take adderall/coke/meth/speed/MDMA you will get this shining bright euphoria, self confidence, energy, and other drug-specific feelings (for meth like you are king or for MDMA like you love everyone). However, you owe these drugs back what they delivered to you. After a meth binge, or lots of MDMA use, or staying up all night on coke you will feel like shit. To an extent this aspect is similar to an alcoholic hangover.
On the other hand, for many people who experiment with heroin they are underwhelmed (not including IV usage, but most experimenters rarely ever IV first time). They just feel good, chill, happy, but they feel like this spooky drug 'heroin' hasn't delivered. They are just mellow. Oh obviously it has all been a lie they will think. Heroin isn't spooky, it's chill. It's not addictive like everyone else thinks. It doesn't make you do stupid shit or stay up all day and hallucinate like amphetamines or coke. It doesn't empty your serotonin like MDMA or give you a hangover like alcohol. People tend to just think oh, what a nice drug.
So the next day they wake up and everything is normal. No headache or shitty feeling--just a slight afterglow of that nice feeling. Oh it was cheap as well! It only cost $10 for a whole night of being high! I thought people said heroin was expensive? And then next weekend comes... There are all these drugs I could do but I liked heroin. It didn't 'fuck me up,' I could still think clearly. No hangover. No feeling like shit later. I still was awake. It just made me happy and content with life. Oh and it's only $10! Well, I should get some more for the whole weekend. This is great! I will use Heroin on the weekends now!
Cont
>>64570201
Now let's say this person works and has responsibilities. He knows he can't go into work drunk, or on MDMA, or high. So he doesn't. It's actually simple. But heroin... Well the user might actually find they do better work on heroin. Instead of being sad or grumpy or depressed with his job... he is just... happy. Mellow. Content. Everything is fine and the world is beautiful. It's raining, it's dark, I woke up at 5:30AM, I'm commuting in traffic. I would have had a headache, I would have been miserable, I would have wondered how my life took me to this point. This point I'm at right now. But no, no, everything is fine. Life is beautiful. The rain drops are just falling and in each one I see the reflection of every persons life around me. Humanity is beautiful. In this still frame shot of traffic on this crowded bus I just found love and peace. Heroin is a wonder drug. Heroin is better than everything else. Heroin makes me who I wish I was. Heroin makes life worth living. Heroin is better than everything else. Heroin builds up a tolerance fast. Heroin starts to cost more money. I need heroin to feel normal. I don't love anymore. Now I'm sick. I can't afford the heroin that I need. How did $10 used to get me high? Now I need $100. That guy that let me try a few lines the first time doesn't actually deal. Oh I need to find a real dealer? This guy is a felon and carries a gun--he can sell me the drug that lets me find love in the world. No this isn't working, I need to quit.
To answer your question, heroin feels nice. That's all, it just feels very nice. You can make the rest up for yourself. Attach your own half-truths to this drug that will show you the world and for a moment you will feel as clever as Faust.
Is it similar to cocaine? Cocaine kinda feels bad but you want more, your heart is racing, you're sweating and you want more. Cocaine is a hell of a drug
>>64570219
>>64570201
This is it right here. Thanks for posting that.
>>64568949
is your name renley?
>>64568945
>>64569328
thank you Suicide, you are one of the very few tolerable tripfags on /mu/
>all these untermensch plebs
>>64567681
>>64567670
>tfw you love ambient music more than you love yourself
>tfw obsessed over kurt cobain in junior high and now lead a self-defeating lifestyle in college
>tfw you are actually allergic to morphine (and in turn heroin) and will never be able to become addicted to it
>>64567695
>>64567881
Tell me anon, what are the benefits of heroin use?
>>64567518
don't do it. you will in all likelihood get addicted very quickly and trust me, it's not enjoyable
>>64569496
Is this a copypasta? If you are going to use a copypasta, try to make it relevant to the discussion at hand by changing words to make it fit.
>>64570672
It's the best feeling in the world by far.
>>64570201
>>64570219
>>64570734
There's a lot of things that feel good that you shouldn't do, anon.
That's not a solid argument.
>>64568997
They are
>>64570761
Like what?
>>64570201
>>64570219
this is 100% accurate
>>64570201
>>64570219
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>>64569483
Jesus Christ do you actually think like this?
Also
>3 drinks
>>64570859
>>64570750
Wouldn't matter if it were tumblr. It's right.
>>64570734
Lol no. Peaking while on MDMA and LSD and taking enough hits of DMT to breakthrough beats it by fucking miles. There is no comparison at all. I'd even argue LSD on it's own is more euphoric than opiates. Perhaps I'm a bit biased though because opiates make it feel like i have fucking stones lodged in my intestines for like 4 days straight.
>>64570794
Eating too much
Drinking too much
Doing anything in excess that will damage your homeostasis that is yourself
Basically, when you don't prioritize the base functions because of some feeling that one thing gives you.
>>64570859
>>64570750
>someone posts a few well-written paragraphs with a cogent point
>HI LEDDIT
>NOT ENOUGH SHIT SLINGING
>YOU DIDN'T CALL OP A FAGGOT OR TELL HIM TO KILL HIMSELF GBG 9GAG
This is why the quality of posts here is so shit
>>64570876
yes. i do believe that in your pursuit of mindless happiness you should not hurt others
is there any moral or logical holes you'd like to attack?
>also
>>3 drinks
i know it may seem like a bit too much for a week day but i have nothing on my schedule tomorrow and in staying with my philosophy and have no intent on causing harm to others or putting myself in the position where others may come to harm because of my actions.
>>64570952
Why is sex on the same level as eating, drinking, sleeping, and shitting? I get that it's a physical desire but this entire site is evidence that it's not a necessity
>>64571023
I thought he was calling you a lightweight desu senpai
Elliott Smith.
>drugs
Not even once.
>>64571011
It's a faggot story literally from reddit that he copy pasted.
>>64571044
I believe it's because it's one of man's basic desires.
Even animals are wired to have sex. That's why there's a separate category between sex and sexual intimacy in the chart.
I dunno, I'm not Mazlow.
Benzo addiction snuck up on me. Opiate addiction has not. It's pretty easy to "chip" as they say. At least in my experience.
>>64571055
>>64571055
martinis are a strong drink.
2.5 shots of gin
1 shot of dry vermouth
stir it in ice
strain and pour into a chilled cocktail glass
olive or lemon peel twist (if lemon squeeze some of the oil into the drink
you don't have to get shit faced all the time. at least taste the drink you made. that's the point of a cocktail
>>64571113
me too
work made me stressed out and i got anxiety from it
i take like .25 a night tho so i think im cool
quit the job today too
>>64571023
Sure. I personally believe that assigning morality to things is not only extremely limiting, but also harmful to yourself and any attempt at objectivity that you may be attempting to have.
The consumption of a substance is not "evil"- the only reason I feel that it would be harmful is if it detracts from the overall happiness in your life; ie if you're a person who holds nothing of value in life, the use of drugs or alcohol for temporary pleasure in your life is completely positive. If, however, you assign value to something, be it yourself or something external, and have a goal that those substances would impede they would then be able to be considered harmful.
The main thing that jumped out to me in your post was this:
>for example, in this moment i have nothing to do and have decided to indulge in hedonism for the night. i have had three drinks and spend my time here and listening to haydn.
You seem to imply that this is somehow harming others, even though it very much seems to be a personal thing that you're doing in your downtime. It really just seems like you're loathing/judging yourself for taking the time to do something that you enjoy.
The fact that you say you try to make the intellectual decision every time implies to me that you're trying to rigidly structure your life in terms of what is likely to lead to the absolute best result all of the time. I'd just like to remind you, anon, that life is not a strategy game, life is not a puzzle to be solved, and life is not a math problem. Personal growth occurs the most in times of hardship, and knowledge is gained when mistakes are made.
Make sure to remember to enjoy yourself- life is a finite thing and trying to optimize every minute of it will only lead to more regret in the end.
>>64571055
also I was desu
>>64571346
i disagree that hardship is the only lesson to be learned by. a negative is not always the absolute for making a positive impact on your life. With your knowledge gained you should always try to make the right decision, which is to say the one you fell is right as subjective moral righteousness is beyond the scope of this conversation . no one person of worth can say that they find nothing of value to work for and if one does find nothing to work for then they may be discarded as an anomaly from this discussion.
>You seem to imply that this is somehow harming others, even though it very much seems to be a personal thing that you're doing in your downtime. It really just seems like you're loathing/judging yourself for taking the time to do something that you enjoy.
i do not suggest that this is harming others but i also do not say that it is helping others either. i could, in fact, in the dead of the night, search for people that may be need, in an altruistic state but i do not feel inclined to do so in my current state, as i question my ability to render assistance and in extension i wonder if i could, in fact, hurt others in that goal.
life may not be a strategy game but it is nature and perhaps best, to try for the best absolute ending possible.
i claim not to be a saint, but i would also not like to leave my mark as a sinner
>>64571269
.25 a night and you quit your job?? Doesn't sound like a chip man, no offense. I don't do heroin that often, .2 when I do. I do poppy seed tea or oxy every 2-4 weeks.
Good, good, keep using drugs. After all, life is meaningless, there is no point doing anything productive. You're better off spending the rest of your pointless life in a catatonic state, chasing after artificial euphoria
>>64571269
>>64571716
Oh, you must've meant benzos. Yeah dude you are good I was eating like 4-7 mg a day
>>64571572
>i disagree that hardship is the only lesson to be learned by.
I didn't say that it was, only one of the best.
>With your knowledge gained you should always try to make the right decision
But why? Why base your decisions on righteousness instead of something like happiness or even chance? What gives moral righteousness priority over the enjoyment of your life?
>no one person of worth can say that they find nothing of value to work for
Someone with a lack of values isn't inherently worthless. Are you saying that nihilists can't accomplish anything?
>i could, in fact, in the dead of the night, search for people that may be need, in an altruistic state but i do not feel inclined to do so in my current state
You could be, but you could also be doing the same over any other activity in your life, be it browsing the internet or working.
"Degenerate" activities are truly no worse than any other activity, except that you assign negativity to them based on social stigma.
>it is nature and perhaps best, to try for the best absolute ending possible.
But why? What is the "best absolute ending possible?" To live the longest? To make the most money? To accomplish as much as you can? To see the most of the world?
And even with one specific goal in mind: Why? Why is it important that you achieve "the best ending" before dying and forgetting it forever?
There is value in life beyond statistics, and achievements, and even progress. It's not about where you're going, it's how you get there.
>>64571745
How is artificial euphoria any different than "real" euphoria, if your life is based solely on your perception?
>>64571783
DUDE HEDONISM LMAO
>>64571808
I''d actually describe myself more as a nihilist
I was just arguing based on his idea of value in life
>>64571745
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but I agree
ha ha cynicism hoo ha
Bohren & der Club of Gore, particularly Vigilante Crusade.
Oh and heroin's bad or something idk
>>64571783
>I didn't say that it was, only one of the best.
a lesson can be learned by a statement and perhaps a demonstration of past failures or theoretics . No one needs to be subjected to hardship if they can understand the hardships of the past.
>But why? Why base your decisions on righteousness instead of something like happiness or even chance? What gives moral righteousness priority over the enjoyment of your life?
Righteousness. as defined by myself is the accumulation of knowledge gained to make a decision that will create the most desirable effect for everyone. why? perhaps because i feel the happiness of others takes precedence over my own.
>Someone with a lack of values isn't inherently worthless. Are you saying that nihilists can't accomplish anything?
this is a cultural topic but yes, i'd say that someone who has no real motive or will to help will create no positive outcome for others
>"Degenerate" activities are truly no worse than any other activity, except that you assign negativity to them based on social stigma.
the social stigma of the degenerate actives is generally the uselessness of the degenerates to society and their unsightliness but in some cases they hurt others in their pursuit of happiness which is generally against most moral codes
>But why? What is the "best absolute ending possible?"
to leave the world happy and without hardship for the entirety of humanities existence. obviously this is unattainable in practice but to help others attain their goals as the people before you did for you is the goal.
the world can be broken down to having no reason and the purpose of life can be simply the passing of genetic code to continue life and nothing more. but that is unfair to the people before that have given so much to this world and us.
>>64568114
>OD on a bad amount of heroin
>a bad amount
This is how you tell someone doesn't know shit about drugs
>>64572052
>the world can be broken down to having no reason and the purpose of life can be simply the passing of genetic code to continue life and nothing more
this is true though
refusing to break it down to this point because you feel it's unfair to people is like pretending that the big bang theory is good just because it takes time to produce an episode- people put effort in, but it's ultimately in vain
>>64568079
>Your parents would be so dissapointed if they found out their son or daughter OD's because they were a pathetic waste of life addicted to drugs.
speak for yourself man
>>64572091
Nihilism, i see.
it's hard to appeal to a person that feels everything has no meaning. the basic foundation of life cannot be argued, as no one knows why it is other than a series of chance happenings. and it cannot be argued the value of doing nothing to doing everything as a logical because there really is no meaning in the most basic form.
but now that we're here; breathing, thinking,alive and sapient why waste that experience that is the mind and on obliviousness that is no more than an animal? not everyone conforms to the same moral code but most find that helping others is a greater value than self indulgence. so to the illogical or logical or however it is described as there is no meaning. Do you find more pleasure in helping others or yourself?
>>64567518
Enjoy ruining your life.
I snorted H for the entirety of 2014 and up to march of 2015. You will get addicted, it just happens, it will happen.
Anyway, I mostly listened Velvet Underground but I also remember dozing off to A Love Supreme in a park and damn it was awesome.
If you do it, try a cigarette after doing it, it feels fucking godly. Don't though.
Desu The Wall is p. good to listen to while nodding
don't IV unless you are comfortable with always IVing from that point on
Definitely definitely don't ever speedball: with IV H I can stay in control but with speedballs I go off the deep end and use till I run out of crack to inject or money for heroin and crack
>>64569093
ma boi
listen to ministry
Kind of Blue
