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Is there anything darker musically than Memphis Rap?

I've listened to a lot of sinister music but as far as musical genres go I feel like hiphop has it locked down with memphis underground.

>those dark menancing production that are decades ahead of their time
>overly graphic depictions of gang violence and life in the ghetto
>strong themes of satanism, and sinning in the african american christian context

Is there anything that can top this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsitWzZFF30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WND3gAyzO1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlBFKrW1ixs
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>>64323248
any kind of satanic metal?
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>>64323248
>darker musically than Memphis Rap

AAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA.

>niggers who would shoot their victims in the back of the head
>can only fight if their posse is backing them up

scary shit bro
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>>64323340
not sure what you're even trying to get at, but yeah being shot in the back of the head by a group of thugs is a rather scary situation, i'd imagine.
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>>64323288

I could say metal is definitely a runner up, but I feel like memphis rap does it better because they don't have to try so hard to be dark, it feels more natural and less cartoony in a sense. Metal's instrumentalization can be made heavy and harsh but I'd say hiphop's production can be made really creepy because it's not limited by the use of certain musical instuments.

DJ paul/Juicy J's production discography is fucking crazy, it's like a horror films soundtrack or something.

Keep in mind this is solely an opinion.
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>>64323492
I have the exact opposite opinion. Most memphis rap sounds cartoony as shit and like it's trying too hard to be "getto" and spooky and it just omes out silly and immature, despite most of the rappers and producers having first hand experience with what they talk about. Metal can also be silly and cartoonish, but it has subgenres that nail the scary and dark thing way more times than memphis rap.
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>>64323248
well, idk. like how about horror music?
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>>64323908

Fair enough. Any bands you'd recommend?
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>>64324004
dISEMBOWLMENT, The Shinning, Burzum, Paysage d'Hiver, Darkspace are pretty good.

Also check out Blackout's Dreamworld if you haven't it's probably my fav memphis rap release and one of the times the genre it's it damn right imo
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>>64323248
Kek just about any genre is darker
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>>64324054

Sounds good, heard Blackout. It was pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v45pBDP3QRE
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>>64324143

>implying anyone beats the mafia
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>>64323248
W E W
E
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Memphis rap is pretty much all tongue-in-cheek, if you think it's scary you're probably listening wrong
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>>64323288

>any kind of satanic metal?

HAHAHAHAHA.

Bunch of scandinavian middle-class pussies with face paint who're playing pretend. Even the poster boy of satanic black metal, Gaahl isn't that scary. Oh and he's also gay just because it's anti-christian. Scary shit bro.

>>64323340

I find real threats like gang violence scarier than a bunch of metal fairytale bullshit. Memphis rap paints such a desolate and nihilistic picture, it feels like it came from the gutter.
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>>64324211

>Memphis rap is pretty much all tongue-in-cheek

Just look up how many of the memphis rappers from the 90s/00s are in jail or dead right now. It's scary. Don't mistake OG memphis rap for stuff like Lil Ugly Mane.
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>>64323248
>bait threads
don't forget to sage, bois
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>>64323908

>it's trying too hard to be "getto" and spooky and it just omes out silly and immature

I have a hard time agreeing with this. I would agree with you if you were talking about Houston horrorcore pioneers like Geto Boys and Ganksta N.I.P, but I'm not seeing it with a lot of memphis rap groups. Thier lyrics are usually embedded in realism for the most part and don't seem too exaggerated I'm sure there are examples but I feel like those would be exceptions to the rule.
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Unless by darker you mean their skin I'd have to say this is subjectively darker. Even Big Black is darker.
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SpaceGhostPurrp brought memphis rap to it's logical conclusion. Can't get any darker than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBKOkg8i5ZI
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>>64324211

I said dark, not scary. Also that argument is stupid because you could apply it to everyone if you wnated to, it doesn't mean anything.
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>>64324367
Big Black is goofy as fuck. I love them but that sneering nerd angst is not dark
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>>64323248
Ott's "black goth" comparison is so apt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtehB9z_Ow
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>>64324367

No wave era Swans was pretty dark, I agree. But Big Black was just goofy fun.
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>>64324395
I kinda had Jordan, Minnesota in mind.
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>>64324372

What the fuck happned to SGP. He had the underground locked down in 2012.
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>>64324367
meant to put a period between skin and I'd
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Probably not, other than some Sacramento hip hop. Also, to the guy that thinks that Houston shit is a joke, it's no more of a joke than any of the shit people in Memphis were doing. Maybe Ganksta N-I-P, Bushwick, Point Blank and Face maybe weren't actually raping bitches by the dozens, but they were thoroughly motivated by what they were really living and what was going on around them to write those psychotic and paranoid raps. Watch any Scarface interview, the dude is permanently in as fucked up of a place as one can get. Those cheap, ultra-hard instrumentals on the early rap-a-lot albums can be a lot darker than the more complex Memphis production too in my opinion.

Also:

>Bushwick Bill going on a rampage in which he tries to force his ex-girlfriend to kill him by hanging his son out the window and finally get her to blow a bullet through his eye

Pic related one of the darkest albums out there
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>>64324480

The beef with Rocky didn't do him any favors. Sad to see such a talented dude fade into irrelevancy.
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rec some memphis records

Da Devils Playground and Deadly Verses are about my favorites
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>>64324589

Havve you heard of Tommy Wright III? He's a memehpis rap legend, he's part urban myth part man.

Ashes to Ashes is my favorite tape of his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj9T_cOMO1E
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>>64324589
Terror's It's Whatever is one of the best. also one of the darker ones.
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>>64324669
>memehpis

Fuck, that was a typo.
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>>64324669
CLASSIC
"The Crucifixion" by Criminal Mafia is a must too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJurQ9UBw34
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>>64323248
Easily the best kind of rap. The gritty, lo-fi, eerie production is what make is for me

>>64324589
Lil Noid - Paranoid Funk is one of my favorites
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vf_gyKfWK8
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>>64324589
niggaz of destruction ft. tommy wright III have a really good tape

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL8IYeErHHY
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What sub genre do bone thugs n harmony belong to? Most of their stuff is dark as fuck too.
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>>64324854
midwest g-funk with some los angeles g-funk
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>>64324854
>>64324888

also check out Dayton Family, Do or Die, and Esham for sure
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>>64324854

They were bitting off triple 6 heavy during their initial stages.
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>>64324548

I grew up in houston man. I got nothing but love for ganskta nip and geto boys, but don't get it twisted. Their brand of horrorcore (which they created) was cartoony, even they knew this. They wanted to be as vile and outlandish as possible, espically during those early records.
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>>64323340
KEK
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is there a torrent of the memphis rap archive? with mega not trustworthy anymore Id like a way to download it before its gone and do it easier than downloading all 100+ folders by themselves
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>>64324589
Blackout - Dreamworld is essential
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>>64325504
bumping for this

any way to contact the guys who organized the archive
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hhahaha oh man it's dark cause theyre BLACK HAHAHA GETT IT GUYS AHAhHAHASHahashdasd
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>>64326557

Fuck off back to your shithole.
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>>64326518

Didn't even know there was an archive. I would hunt everything down myself.
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real shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy9_CwFsE00
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>>64326725
here it is

https://mega.nz/#F!iMwSQa6D!ThXZP9ALJX4-eWcgs1cY4g
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>>64323248

Ronnie scholarship is pretty dark but witty

https://m.soundcloud.com/ronniescholarship
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>>64324589
Yo I'm actually so glad to stumble upon a Memphis rap thread I had these two albums that I was obsessed about and this thread's a gold mine to find more stuff like it
Skimask Troopaz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKoGI_I14Po
Project Pat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsFjzhNC6Mo
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>>64328086
Is it worth listening to everything there?
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>>64324589
this could interest you. a valuable resource I think
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>>64323248
damn that MC Mack track goes hard
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>>64323340

>AAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHA.

literally the reaction of 12 year old, with the racist uninformed daddy rhetoric to go along with. I already know you are voting for trump, most likely fall below the poverty line, live in a fly over state, receive some form of government assistance (even though its only for lazy "niggers" ) , only have a high school diploma and think minorities have stolen a job directly from you. wow. great job mate.
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>>64328800
AWW shit forgot this 1
DJ Squeeky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1VoRSpPAU
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>>64328921
Correction, I'm Mexican, am voting for Trump and live pretty well. Get fucked nigger
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>>64323399
>>64323340

lol
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>>64323248

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIW2H-wgC54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPWRucprN6E&list=FLvZF6vXG8sUutyCraNL49TQ&index=6
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>>64324932
>Dayton Family,
my nigga
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Yes. It's called industrial, power electronics, no wave, etc.

You pleb
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>>64329008
Do you hate yourself?
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>>64324548
Rec me some Sacramento hip hop if you say it's darker
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>>64329695

"3rd Degree Wanton Murda" by Crime Gang
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>>64329609

He's the mexican version of a Sambo/Coon. He doesn't understand the banter so he has to turn to self hate in oprder to feel "accepted" on 4chan.
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>>64323248
>Is there anything darker musically than Memphis Rap?
Steely Dan
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>>64323248

OG gangster shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrU_ef7DQgs
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>>64324808
you got a dl link for that? one on what has been unseeded for months
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>>64329762
not necessarily I just think it's just a scene consistently as dark as Memphis. A lot of these dudes got locked up for a long time too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83zfOIscXUM

Brotha Lynch Hung
Sicx
X-Raided
G-Side
Brainwash
Old E & Redrum
Lunasicc
Mr. Doctor
First Degree The D.E.
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>>64329896
reported
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Foetus
Nico
Von LMO
suicide
diamanda galas
vampire rodents
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>>64329008
Mexican is not a race.
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>>64329972
Season of da Siccness is a must have.
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/meal/ here, this shit is p spoopy honestly. Definitely up there with other spoopy genres imo.
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this music kinda creeps me out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Luba10rU5Yk
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>>64323248
Gingerbread man is ruin-your-day core in a way I don't think many albums are. It's a kind of darkness nobody really talks about, that period later in your life when you are past the halfway point where you realize that many of the things you have wanted or yearned for your entire life, you will never, ever get or get back.
Every one of the nine people on the album has something they want, but cannot get. Despite the MIDI compositions, parts of it are just absolutely haunting.

There's also a long-form 10 minute music video out there that strings the more musical parts of 5 of the songs together that gives you the gist, but leaves out a lot.
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>>64331879
That guys got a cool computer.
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>>64331944
>ruin-your-day core

need to listen to this now
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>>64331970
I'm probably hyping it up way, way too much, but when I realized what was going on underneath all of it, I was depressed for like a week. The worst part is some parts are catchy, so some parts of it will get stuck in your head.
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>dark music
lol @ white ppl
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I'm the /MHHG/ guy and yeah there's a lot that's darker than Memphis. A lot of the the best Memphis rap isn't even devil shyt

Finnish death metal is some pretty fucked up sounding stuff, try that
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>>64331990
is it about real shit tho and not some bullshit
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>>64323248

You gotta be white. They're actually talking about what goes on in the hood, which I guess can be considered scary if you've not experienced it for most of your life.
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>>64332106

>Finnish death metal is some pretty fucked up sounding stuff, try that

You just lost all credibilty.
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>>64332131

>all these retards keep thinking I said scary or I found the music terrifying in some way

You're clearly not white, because you have reading comprehsion.
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>>64332174

no reading*
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>>64332131
Is that sort of thing not scary to black people? I thought it would be worse if you have to live around it.

>>64332138
Demilich is p spoopy.
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>>64332138
finnish memphis rap tho
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>>64332200
ive lived in pretty bad places and you just stay to your own buisness and you get left alone usually
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>>64332200

Probably to some people, I just don't care anymore. Once you know your way around you'll know which areas to avoid.
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>>64332174

>Sinister music

gee I wonder what could you have meant by this
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>>64332337

Stop flexin on the internet faggot. Probably can't walk alone in the afternoon with a black guy behind you without crossing to the otherside of the street.
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>>64332376

They're called descriptors moron.

>Horrorcore defines a style of hip hop music that focuses primarily on dark, violent, gothic, transgressive, macabre and/or horror-influenced topics that can include satanism, self-harm, cannibalism, suicide, murder, torture, rape, drug use and supernatural or occult themes. The lyrics are often inspired by horror movies over moody, hardcore beats.
>HURR THEY USED THE WORD DARK AND VIOLENT IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THIS GENRE OF MUSIC WHOEVER WROTE THIS WIKI ARTICLE IS A PUSSY DUURRR

That's how stupid you look.
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>>64332398

I honestly feel more comfortable walking around black people than white. Probably has to do with Us vs Them mindset but I just feel like white people look down on you. Some do it unconsciously others you can tell are doing it on purpose. Whereas there are a lot of down to earth niggas I know who are just trying to get through this shit life, no one looks down we all just help each other out
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Funeral doom is the darkest sounding music to me. Bands like Ahab or Bell Witch, as examples.

Can't really hear the lyrics most of the time but They're probably pretty dark.
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>>64332533

What are you racially?
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>>64332533
>down to earth

thats how people are in poor areas its not even about race
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>>64332517

>WIKI ARTICLE DUURRR

In the original post you say:

>I've listened to a lot of sinister music but as far as musical genres go I feel like hiphop has it locked down with memphis underground.

Unless you're actually a wiki article then I can see what you're saying but that's not the case
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>>64324589
test my nutz is GOAT
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>>64325504
mega is going nowhere
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>>64332638

>Unless you're actually a wiki article then I can see what you're saying but that's not the case
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>>64332138
I'm not talking about shitty "death n roll"

http://youtu.be/s5Fgej6Ntj0
http://youtu.be/HGT9Rmbu5rA
http://youtu.be/q5hzuFEjeoo

findeath best death
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>>64332612

mix of black and latino

>>64332624

I wouldn't doubt that

>>64332712

Here's your (You)
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i like to think that this is pretty dark
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