4/20 edition
post music you've made stoned anons
here's my contribution
https://clyp.it/jgsrqguw
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>>64213760
https://clyp.it/uy4zso4v
what do you lads think about this? Does it sound competent and like an actual song, not just a bunch of random measures?
>>64213791
well a little of both...
what is the exact assignment?
Remember those quiet evenings
My handheld recorder's gathering dust. I thought I'd just "bring it everywhere and record stuff", but I'm out of ideas for stuff that'd actually sound cool. What have you recorded? How have you used it?
Is it more one-shots for percs, loops for atmosphere, something else? What kind of places do you get lots of use out of?
>>64214280
I'll buy it for $80
I'm getting into podcasts lately. You know any good /prod/-related ones?
Maybe not about good production, but with good production. Sound design and shit.
>>64214342
http://shallowrewards.com/
this dude is pretty autistic about sound quality. it's also great, if you can tolerate 1 part neuroticism for every 4 parts insight
>>64214322
Nah, I still feel I'll get into this some day if I can develop the habits, the mindset, the workflow for sorting through the recs later...and also just get out of the basement more.
>>64214280
Oh yeah, also suppose I'm somewhere with people and don't want everyone looking at me. What do?
I tried just keeping it in the pocket, but the slightest shuffle makes a disastrous racket.
>>64214280
i used them for foley.
My buddy had a zoom h6 so i borrow that when i need it.
this hasnt happened to me but im just curious, so if you sent one of your .flp files to someone on skype to shwo them how you made your song and then one day someone wanted to use that song in a movie or something what would happen if the guy you sent it to posted it online for others to download and claim it as theirs or he claimed it as his own? if you have screenshots of messages talking about the song and him acknowledging that you made it would that be enough evidence you made it
https://clyp.it/af14jxt4
Just some random song for a game
>>64215046
meh
>>64214280
>some guy is selling the H2N for $98
>sent him an email yesterday
>still no reply
Think running my MIDI controller through a USB hub on a 10m long cable would work?
Seems like it could cause latency, if the signal even gets through alright.
>>64215046
The bass is lame desu, I could see the patch working in some intense 80s nostalgia where everything else clicks with it, but it doesn't. The actual groove is boring.
Drums are also meh in both sound and rhythm and they're mixed way too quiet.
The shift halfway through makes no sense. The song's completely directionless.
Basically no.
>>64216305
yeah i know, its the first thing i do
>>64216767
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/948672-latency-length-usb-cable.html
i had a similar question when I started needing a USB strip hub. Turns out latency in these situations is negligible, at the signal will be traveling close to the speed of light in normal situations
>>64216949
I was completly clueless about how to eq the drums, should they be more bassy or focus on the mids? Yeah i felt the same about it being directionless, happens every time i try to make something music related
>>64217048
>EQ
No, volume first. The drums are too quiet compared to bass and SFX. Turn them up, or turn those two down.
>>64217258
ok, thankss
>>64214280
aw shit man it makes me sad to hear that. it's true though, it's not easy to keep finding inspiration and finding use for those things. i have a tascam dr-40 and i've taken it around a fair amount for "point and record" sorta stuff, but once i got better mics and preamps and a whole rig together it got waaaay more fun. i use my handheld recorder as a recorder only, everything else is external and the audio quality is so much better now. it makes me way more excited to record because i plan expeditions and set the binaural ball or jecklin disk up, choose whether i should use my omni or cardioid capsules with my mics, and really get higher quality stuff.
now, if i just wanted to collect sound fx and foley type stuff i would be using just the tascam, or maybe the tascam with a shotgun mic, but i don't do much "sample gathering" type stuff.
also anon, if you aren't expertly versed in the different recording techniques your recorder offers (ORTF, MS, etc) and their relative strengths and weaknesses, you might find some inspiration in doing some deep reading about that.
anyway, i record ambience mostly, and mainly for the honest beauty and magic of different places.
https://youtu.be/Wc0qIUGHVG4
>>64217533
holy shit this is gayer than hipster-fags carrying around cameras and taking "artsy" pictures of everything and its mom
>>64217695
thanks friend
>>64217735
i just wanted to say that i actually like it a lot
>>64217533
Its always nice to see someone who really likes what they do, keep it up buddy sounds gud
>>64217533
this is real cool anon
>>64217785
>>64217840
>>64217859
thanks m8s!
Join friendly /prod/ discord :^)))
https://discord.gg/0wV1D4bx3283zPPS
is this too clutter?
https://clyp.it/zykap53w
also how do i come up with chord progressions that aren't so cheesy while still being catchy
>>64218445
by chord progressions i meant melodies...
happy 420 boys
amirite?!
huehuehue
what do you need to make gabber? drum machine and a synth that has sequence/tempo?
>>64218445
i want my music to be more atmospheric but still hold a groove and be catchy
when i just layer synths like this it sounds like a wall of noise
Hey guys I'm thinking of getting into making simple beats and melodies.
One sound I really like and that I'd like to mess around with is this sound that's used in the Spice Girls "Say You'll Be There" and it's also heard a little bit in Snoop's "Gin and Juice". It's a fairly high pitched noise, it sounds kind if synth like, almost like a sine wave that's just been really fucked with.
If anyone has ideas please let me know.
https://youtu.be/9ro0FW9Qt-4
Its really prominent through this whole song
https://youtu.be/OKGJOtRaqMg
Background of this song
>>64218664
808s and DISTORTIONNNNNNN
>>64218804
haaalllpp pls
ßump i guess
https://clyp.it/zxj3ea1d
>Disco house with my buddy on guitar
https://clyp.it/b34lf3g1
>boogie/funk, the synth is fucked up on the last half, I didn't realize until I mastered it
They're both WIPs
>>64218982
they sound like simple patches, using saw waves with unison or chorus effects on them, in that snoop song during the verses they're using the same synth patch with a sine wave setting. and of course with portamento (or legato, i can't tell the difference) turned on,
>>64214391
and you have down syndrome when it comes to describing podcasts
>>64221692
these are terribly mastered if so
https://www.mediafire.com/download/kdq6d856eewj5w9
Iwas producing this rapper and he said do it stoned i tried it..
Happy 420
>>64213760
Best guitar library to make Jazz/Blues?
Something like link related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YNLEtRHmVQ
i've never made a song
i just scrapped something together in 1-2 hrs after being annoyed that i don't finish anything. i dunno what it is.
https://clyp.it/oc31imrj
>>64221692
What synthesizers are you using for this? Some of the sounds sound really familiar
>>64222973
Do you think all of the japanese 80s-90s fusion/pop ever made has been part of a vaporwave album?
I know this was recorded in ableton and that's about it, I might have had a USB midi controller or maybe it was the 808 drum machine (newer one, not the original)
https://clyp.it/fz2axaxy
>>64223801
and this gem of experimental 808 usage
https://clyp.it/jt4vpyrq
anyone got that youtube playlist that teaches you about sound synthesis
>RIGHT HERE
https://youtu.be/SU3qI903nhY?list=PL6WmpLmpi5R1yRuhCS4EgL5MTqGgNElhs
MY ONE MAN BAND - SPIRA
FAGGOTS
>>64213760
https://soundcloud.com/catilluminati/420-feat-k19
>>64223966
I LIKE IT YOU FUCKING SHIT, DO YOU SELL TAPES CUZ I MIGHT BUY ONE AND LISTEN TO IT WHILE I GARDEN
>>64213760
just got me fl studio and want to make remixes of some pharrell williams stuff where do I start to learn? new to all of this. anything more friendly than fl studio?
>>64223964
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ04PwFvui1BCUAE9wxmOqHE51mrDv8Ui
How do you remove drums in a sample
>>64226782
You can't
>>64226782
Anything that isn't centre cancelable or eqable is there to stay
>>64226782
I mostly agree with >>64228377
Good EQing + Putting a similar drum pattern on top and using those drums for sidechaining can yield decent results tho (I've only done this with hip hop beats)
>>64217533
Nice setup, but what's the bowling ball (binaural ball?) for?
Might finally get an H2n soon.
I don't think it'll come with an SD card though, so what's the recommended SD size?
16GB costs $12 here.
>>64226782
With great difficulty
>>64229730
The "binaural ball" has two small mics embedded in it like ears. The shape and density of the ball simulates the human head so each "ear" hears very similarly to how our ears hear (the time delay between each ear, the frequency response and "shadowing" that the head introduces, and the way sound diffracts around it - all similar to the human head). So it records very vivid binaural audio.
The jecklin disk I built has a very similar effect, but not as vivid. They're both nice stereo techniques, but difference between the two is basically just a different set of pros and cons. Because I have to use small lavalier mics in the ball the audio quality isn't quite as good, but the binaural effect is really strong. The ball works best through headphones and doesn't translate as well through speakers, the jecklin disk works great through both headphones and speakers and I can use much higher quality mics with it. It's also a lot lighter and easier to bring places. I mostly use the jecklin disk these days, but if I want to get tactile ASMR recordings the ball is the way to go (like whispering in one ear for example).
Because the ball doesn't have actual ears, or shoulders, it doesn't give you any sense of elevation like a dedicated binaural head would, but that helps the recordings translate a bit better to speakers. It's all a compromise. The ball is a cool project but with everything considered it's not incredibly practical for location recording.
Check this out - through speakers it's nothin' but with headphones it's very immersive. This is whith the binaural ball. The mosquitoes man!
https://youtu.be/C7iZ23-cVNE
>>64229869
That's pretty cool.
>>64229730
oh and to answer your SD card questions, 16GB is fine. stereo files are about 10mb/min for 16 bit and about 15mb/min for 24 bit (you should use 24!) so you can store several hours and never fill 16GB. as long as you don't actually archive and keep your stuff on it!
>>64229940
I see.
Won't 16GB be a bit overkill then?
>>64229974
yeah, you'd basically never fill it in a period of time where you wouldn't get back to a computer first
>>64229974
it could be, better safe than sorry though! You could easily get away with 8GB, if it's really that much cheaper than 16. if you record with crazy specs like 192kHz sample rate then you'll want 16GB+ but that's really not gonn abe necessary. Stick to 44.1/24 imho
>>64229974
although if you want to do a lot fo stretching and/or pitch shifting with your recordings higher sample rates would be a big improvment in quality actually. i dont't do that myself so i stick to 44.1. eh. >>64230030
>>64230017
>>64230030
>>64230044
Went with 8GB.
$9.61 vs $13.68 (shipping included)
I won't be recording anything longer than an hour.
>>64230081
noice! you won't regret it, 8gb is more than enough. and the h2n is awesome with its combined XY and MS settings. you can get some nice surround with that as well, as long as you use the MS side for the front!
>>64230127
I'm sure I won't.
Now I just have to wait for the seller of the H2n to reply so I can pay...
Hopefully they'll be able to send it out today.
I don't want to wait the entire weekend.
>>64230146
oooh you're >>64216760
Man I know that feel! hope you get it soon. i always boil over when they ship stuff on the weekend so you know it's not coming till like the following wed. it's even worse on ebay when you've actually paid for something on like tues but they don't ship it until the end of the week
Hey guys my compressor has a negative ratio knob, wtf does that mean? Its blowing my mind right now
>>64230256
This is within the country though, so I would only have to wait until monday.
I got a reply now though.
>>64230321
probably an expander setting. compression-expansion is different than gate-expansion because it doesn't lower levels below the threshold, it raises levels above a threshold. really nice if you're trying to get things like hi-hat hits or note attacks or something to jump out a bit. can be tricky to set but the creative usee are amazing! ii absolutely love love love multiband compressors that do upward expansion. for mastering, for example, it's really the way to go. downward expansion is unruly and not very transparent. what compressor is it btw?
>>64230322
oh sweet. good luck!
>>64230360
This may seem a simple question but does normal compression lift the singal upward toward the threshold or just effect everything above it? Also what does a compressor do when the signal doesn't reach the threshold - anything?
>>64230418
compression lowers the signal when it hits the threshold, so it controls the peaks in the level. it doesn't do anything until the signal hits the threshold. of course if the compressor has an EQ or vintage/nalog simulation it might make things sound different just by groing through it, but in terms of levels and dynamics it dosn't activate until the threshold is tickled
>>64230473
Thanks I needed that clarified. Lately I've been thinking about what a compressor does just to get my head around it and all the parameters
>>64230418
also looks like this unit has a switch to change the mode between compression or expansion, or maybe compressor/expander and gate/expander. idunno, not familiar with that specific plugin
Any free piano plugins for OS X that aren't total trash? I've been using 4front piano but it sounds pretty bad
>>64230512
That toggles between easy and expert (exp) mode
>>64230698
oh ok. neato!
>>64230526
do u have ableton
>>64230778
Yeah but it's not my main DAW
anybody use one of these? there a lot cheaper than any xlr pocket recorder i can find
![md_IS457386-01-01-BIG[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u8udn6l.jpg "md_IS457386-01-01-BIG[1].jpg")
>>64230992
shit, here's the pic
also they're*
i swear i'm not retarded you guys
People keep saying FL Studio is too simple and limited in capabilities...essentially it's "babby's first" DAW. When people admit to using FL Studio, others point and laugh.
Yet, I've tried using it for almost two years and even now I'm confused as all hell and don't understand jack shit about it. I've watched all the tutorials and reads all the manuals. This is the closest I've ever felt to actually having a legitimate learning disability.
So what the fuck? Does it get better or something? How do you actually learn or get better? Should I just give up and move to a different program or something?
>>64230921
Ableton has https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/grand-piano/ that you can dl
Also Logic has a great piano built in
>>64231056
ooh nice
turns out I have the grand piano sound already, sounds okay but the piano roll is fucking horrible to use
>>64226092
>anything more friendly than fl studio?
GarageBand, but if you're serious you don't want to start there.
>>64231026
I use logic
if your end product sounds good, who gives a fuck what DAW you use
How does Iglooghost come up with these insanely dense and chaotic tracks so quickly?
How?
I wanna be able to do stuff like that.
another day, another EDM banger produced by someone younger than me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60ItHLz5WEA
Great. The seller of the H2n told me she got a higher offer from a person where she lives, so she can't sell it to me.
Just fucking kill me now.
>>64231213
idk, he's good. he must be smart and have a good workflow that's polished.
on that topic, since i've been proding i've gotten this feeling that a lot of producers don't like to talk about their 'secrets' they might talk about tools and give some ambiguous answer to how they go about writing a song, but the cool things they do that make them unique will often be kept secret. it's like a secret ingredient in an array of foods
>sent a couple of unfinished racks to a local dj/producer
>he offers me to release an ep on his label
I didnt know making it was that easy. You really do have to put yourself out there.
>>64223966
how'd you record everything
>>64231393
I just find this stuff more motivating desu
a guy that is only a year or two older than me from my area has millions of plays on soundcloud. His single from january already has 1.6million on soundcloud. Coachella was using his song during the streams in between shows.
>>64231500
>ep on a local producer's label
>making it
Could someone post the acoustics guide we had in /prod/?
Two specific questions:
I read (in that guide) that in a rectangular room, it's good to have speakers directed down the longer side of the room. Can someone explain why exactly?
How far from the wall should the speakers be?
any sample grabbing/foley type people have recommendations on stuff to hit other stuff with? i have part of an old kick drum pedal that has the foam mallet instead of the hard rubber kind that i find good for getting a nice dull thud out of whatever you hit with it. have also tried dragging combs and drum brushes over stuff and gotten kind of hit and miss results
what about the rest of you?
>>64231624
I guess that depends on your goals. Having a physical record with my tunes is making it for me. The point still stand though, i think a lot of talented bedroom producers never go beyond their comfort zone when they could be making bigger things
>>64231500
how long have you been producing? How did you get in contact with him?
>>64231703
i change my pitch up, and smack my bitch up
Anybody here record acoutic piano? Like I mean, a physical piano made of iron and wood?
I learned the way I like from some Estonians, and wanted to see how other people record piano.
>>64226782
If it's just a couple of hits here and there, sometimes in hip-hop what they do is just cut them right out. Works surprisingly well.
So for instance you've got a snare hitting at the same time as the guitar chord and you just lop it off. Now it's a guitar chord with a fucked up attack and it's cool in its own way.
>>64232025
Yeah I did XY over the strings, a neuman u87 pointing at the centre. 2 rooms 1 in front 1 behind. 2 on back again as an experiment. One left one right. Same on the front.
Here's the result
https://clyp.it/zntclywr
>>64231500
It's not "that easy".
You just got lucky.
>>64231624
>>64233178
you guys are really adding to the conversation, keep it up
>>64231703
>>64231703
Yes. I do lots of foley
I found the backs of a knife is good, kick drum pedals are good too, a plastic pen for lighter sounds too, dragging a Combe is good. Just experiment. I did the slinky thing for part of my dissertation (on the evolution of sound design in science fiction).
I used to make sure I had a softer rubber striker, metal, wood, hard rubber and plastic striker with me at all times. That way you could get a varied strike
>>64233257
What should I say then?
Sure, you have to put yourself out there, but it really is a matter of luck.
The music scene is oversaturated.
>>64233139
I just place two cardioid patterns. One at the crook near the treble, the other at the neck near the bass.
I don't place any inside, nor do I use room mics. I don't have a good example though because the only times I record piano, I'm not supposed to give out the recordings because it's some other band. I might have time next week to do some of my own work. What piano are you recording?
>>64234359
Jus some piece of shit piano in one of our studios. It's nothing special. The Steinberg is off limits unless people pay a premium. It's kinda jewy but sort of understandable.
I was experimenting more than anything. Was a small time thing so I thought I would experiment, most of the microphones were not used in the mix anyway, was a case of have but not need.
I would like to listen to some of
Your stuff at some point bro
>>64231591
Eh I guess
I keep having to remind myself that 2 years isn't a long time to have been doing something, like every producer I like has been making music for way longer
>>64234568
We have like 6 steinways, one of which I always have access to. If I wasn't swamped with work, I could do something tonight, but I have 3 different shows in the next 3 weeks :/
>>64234723
Ah nice. We just invested in an SSL matrix (first in the country cool right) with 16 neve mic pres, 16 neve eqs, 16 neve compressors, and the equal amount of SSL eqs compressors and pres.
We have a tl audio 32 track in one room (saving for their stereo compressor for my own collection).
One of those Raven touch screen mixers. Cool but pointless.
We spent so much on neve and ssl gear
>>64235127
Yeah, we don't have too much fancy stuff in terms of studio gear, not being related to anything Audio production and all. It's enough to capture chamber ensemble performances and I use our stuff for personal projects as well.
We do have like 4 different sets of genelecs though, ranging from a tiny 5.1 to a freaking huge pair of 3-way speakers.
>>64235244
We have a 5:1 studio too. Pretty good. The amnesia games audio was done here. We have tannoys, I personally have an Adam a77x pair.
The neve stuff sounds great man. I prefer it to ssl
>>64233257
>conversation
>on a Belgian window tinting forum
>DJ Khaled
Opinions on his production?
>>64235975
you're right, it should all be reaction memes and farts
>>64236000
More like his ghost producers (probably).
He's a good meme, knows how to promote himself, I'll give him that.
>>64236005
Thank you for agreeing with me.
Why has there been so much more shitposting on /prod/ recently
>>64236728
There hasn't really, you haven't seen /prod/ shitposting if you think this is something noteworthy
>>64236728
https://youtu.be/xeNAgBFmJpM
I've heard of artists resampling and looping their shit. Acoustics I get, but synths?
Aside from freeing up CPU/RAM, is there an advantage to doing this instead of just generating the sounds each time?
Is there any cool processing you can do on an audio loop?
I guess I could slice it up, but I could do a lot more with the raw MIDI. Am I missing out on something?
>>64213760
>post music you've made stoned anons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8fbkT9VtG8
>>64233389
Is it worth actually getting proper mallets for this and if so, is there anything I should look out for when selecting them?
>>64237277
CPU/RAM is the main reason I do it, even a single synth can cause problems if you have a lot of voices in unison
But it can also be really helpful for keeping sounds under control if they have a lot of reverb/etc because you can beef the sound up but remove the messy reverb tail
Aaand I guess you might want repeated passages to sound exactly the same which might not be possible if you have unsynced LFOs or stuff like phasers
I'm trying to sound more 60s-like. Here's what I've learned so far.
Saturation helps, maybe a bit of hiss or other grit too. Also, boosting the mids can really help and ridiculous panning practices are essential.
As far as plugins go, NastyDLA and VintageVerb are damn good for space if you wanna be retro about it. For saturation, I like Ferox and FerricTDS, plus Voxengo Boogex on lighter settings. And M-Tron has absolutely delicious Mellotron (, chamberlin, orchestron) samples.
Any suggestions, plugins, libraries? Drum kits, maybe?
>>64235414
so do anyone know a thing about (cheap )drum mics?
>>64238015
I would refrain from using those shitty mic kits and buy mics one at a time. You can do fine with a pair of overhead cardioid mics and a large diaphragm near the kick.
>>64238015
most cheep drumkit mic sets like that are the same thing. GC sells them as "digital reference", JTS, samson, a host of others all the same ulta-mass-produced mics with slightly different body and grille designs. I have some cheep Nady drum mics (DM70, DM80, DM90, CM88) and they're actually quite good. Some of those are probably close to the generic chinese ones but Nady (like CAD) actually designed and patented their own dynamic cartridges so they are probably a bit better than those really cheep ones. It's hard to say though without direct experience and comparison.
I can speak for the Nadys and CADs because I used them... for about the same price or slightly more those are better companies to support IMHO. They aren't Shures but I get very happy results with them.
>>64238015
also, everything this anon >>64238161 says is true
>>64238220
>>64238161
>>64238220
thanks for the advice,
the only problem is that I live in Uruguay and we don't get shit aound here, but I will look up. The bassist I play withtold me he can give me a pair of cardioid mics to use.
What should I get next? What mics do you recommend?
>>64238311
what cardioid mics is he giving you? a shure sm57 (or similar) is good, a couple "instrument" or "drum" mics are ok for toms (look at the kits you mentioned and get mics like the tom mics), and a pair of small diaphram condensers (cardioid) for overheard is good. for a kick you'll want something designed for a kick but the rest is fairly flexible.
you could always just do a pair of overheads and put a condenser by the kick like anon suggested. a good place is nestled just above the kick pointed toward the snare. it'll pick up everything and than your overhead pair will fill the kit out in glorious stereo.
but without more info, budget, recording capability, etc it's hard to say.
>>64231674
>I read (in that guide) that in a rectangular room, it's good to have speakers directed down the longer side of the room. Can someone explain why exactly?
Sound waves reduce in level in proportion to the square of the distance, so sound waves travelling parallel to a longer room side will have reduced in level more by the time they hit the wall facing the speakers than they would if they were travelling parallel to a shorter room side, and the reflected waves will have reduced in level even more by the time they have travelled back to your listening position.
So what should I get to record an electric bass guitar?
Is Reason in your personal opinions? My father has an extra copy of the fourth ed. that I can upgrade for like $125. He raves about it all the time and i was wondering what yall think. Is its sample library any good?
>>64238520
Oh, I see. Thanks!
>>64238629
it's awesome for a ton of reasons. from the sounds to the flexibility to the GUI, the fact you construct your own signal flow studio-style is awesome. it builds and reinforces proper studio skills better than other daws and i think they have an awesome product. i do everything with the included liberries and it's great. the orkester stuff is brilliant and i've made some pretty acceptible film score stuff with it. can't go wrong i say
>>64238573
sennheiser md421, nady dm80 or similar, almost any omnidirectional dynamic mic if you get it real close (ev635, shure vp64), ribbon mic about 1-2m away, large diaphram condenser about 1m away (closer if omni), etc
>>64238756
but will that actually record the bass, or just the timbre?
>>64238769
wat
are you talking about mics on an amp or plugging in direct?
>>64238836
I was thinking pluggin in direct
>tfw all I want to do is make EDM bangers with a group of blonde dudes with strange accents but not European enough
>>64238889
haters are going to hate but i own pic related and it's beautiful. really sweet stuff comes through that
>>64238520
>>64238513
bulshit servers think my post is spam, I've rewritten it like 5 times already
I dunno wat mics they're but I've used them before and they sound ok
the jts 7 mics kit is around 300 so my budget is around that I guess
I need to buy a 8 channel interface too
I could buy mics over time and eventually get great mics
