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Can someone hook me up with some recs?
In the Gesualdo/Bortniansky dimension pls
ive been listening to takemitsu music for quite some time. i love his 70s works.
garden rain is a piece that i simply love. i breathes with us. the chords are derived from sho chords (a japanese gagaku mouth organ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmsRMt210PU&nohtml5=False
>>63914035
i think you can find all madrigal books from gesualdo on youtube.
Okay help me out understanding the Köchel catalogue. Why is it only restricted to Mozart when it just makes everything more complicated? Why can't it just be an opus number like every other composer has?
>>63914277
i find catalogues in general confusing, but i see the musicological value of having it. as im not a musicologist or instrumentist (or into music before XX century), i dont normally deal with this.
>>63914277
Opus numbers are only for published works and depend on order of publication which may not correspond to order of composition (think Palestrina). When most of a composer's work lie in manuscript, which is the case for most musicians before the 19th century, establishing a roughly chronological (as in Koechel) or categorical (as in BWV) catalogue number helps enormously when you're trying to discuss the works.
what are some essential Purcell recordings?
I couldn't find anything in the megas
what are the best piano concertos y'all have heard?
>>63916192
Mozart 17-27
How do you determine if your movement should be in 4/4 or 2/2 time?
>>63913995
is there any good classical that's not made by old boring white guys? also with synths?
This is probably the thread for it. I was hoping that some of you might know of songs similar to Moonlight Sonata (specifically the first movement) or Chopin's Prelude No 4.
>>63916599
Yes.
>>63916599
>tumblr image
>underrating Mozart, a black transmale
Typical
>>63916622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKqFl6Tb4bw
>>63916192
OMFG PROKOFIEV 1st. AND THE WHOLE DAMN THING IS ONLY 20 MINS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqCwQ9clHec
>>63916599
Srobaji. He's the only nonwhite classical composer that I think is worth listening to.
>>63916192
Favorite is Beethoven's fourth. Wonderfully sweet first movement and the second movement is weird but beautiful.
His third and fifth are amazing as well.
>>63916599
Lili Boulanger. French composer in the vein of Debussy, Ravel, and Faure and also the first woman to win the Prix de Rome. Unfortunately died very young.
>>63917133
>>63917298
>He's the only nonwhite classical composer
When will this pathetic whitewashing of history end? Beethoven and Mozart were proud transwomen of colour you misogynistic racist pigs.
>>63916192
KAPUSTIN BITCHES!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yNI3k6RUZw
>>63917217
the second movement of the fourth piano concerto is emptiness and horror
>>63917711
>you will never write anything as good as that
>>63917333
So U be sayin we Wuz composers?
Depressing lieder recommendations? Preferably in the romanticism department? In a sulky mood tonight.
>>63917866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwZmZu1O11c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJwNRZfY1W4&nohtml5=False
>>63917866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pze4NxCOjg0
I remember listening to this super slow Beethoven piano work at one point but I can't remember what the fuck it was to save my life. Can anybody here help me pinpoint what it is? It was on YouTube and it was very slow paced, and I loved it.
>>63918047
Was it just a piano? What was the mood, how slow was it? Etc. Tell me everything you know.
>>63918047
moonlight sonata
>>63917333
Ayo Hold up.
>>63918047
Sounds like Beethoven's Moonlight sonata.
>>63918062
Yes, I'm PRETTY certain it was just a piano. The mood was very bleak/grey, and as for the speed, it was almost like it was struggling to crawl up a giant staircase or something like that.
>>63917818
WE WUZ COMPOSERS AND SHIT
>>63917866
hope you get better buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIDMGLzimok
>>63918078
>>63918099
Nah, it wasn't the moonlight sonata...
>>63917866
Dichterleibe
>>63918047
Was it pretty or sad? Or pretty and sad? Major key? Minor key?
>>63917972
>>63917866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUpWSD7krSk&nohtml5=False
>>63918299
It was sad, like a funeral sort of thing.
The key? I don't know, maybe minor but don't quote me on that...
>>63916622
I feel like you would appreciate this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEjAYcrPNdA
>>63918324
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaHmbNI2Bgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKqFl6Tb4bw
>>63918317
Look at all those normies, in total shock. Fucking assholes.
>>63918106
Try this >>63917020
Or these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRTkAyKDDWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2b0zd42Zgw
If it's none of them tell me the closest one
Speaking of Beethoven, what's the best compilation of all his piano sonatas to cop? Brendel, Kempff, Fischer?
>>63918459
The IBA releases are some of my favorite recordings of his Sonatas, spread out over the course of 6 or 7 Volumes.
You can't get all of his sonatas in one compilation that's for sure
>>63918500
>>63918459
Correction: you can get all in one compilation those aren't the best recordings though
>>63918459
Schnabel's is probably the best overall, but they are old recordings. No one does full justice to literally all of the Beethoven sonatas though, you will find interpreters who are great in one sonata, but maybe less agreeable in another. Really, you should just try to listen to as many performers as you can and discern for yourself whom leans towards your preferences in regards to interpretation. Everyone has different tastes.
>>63918533
Yeah but I'd rather have something in one big compilation.
>>63918459
i went to oberlin. my teacher there was peter takacs.
takacs was taught by leon fleisher
fleisher was taught by schnabel
schnabel was taught by leschetizky
leschetizky was taught by czerny
and czerny taught by beethoven.
SOOOOOOOOO
i'm gonna go ahead and recommend this because there is a direct lineage from beethoven himself. plus, takacs really just absolutely LOVES beethoven and has poured his life into this work.
http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sonatas-Ludwig-van/dp/B003X859AW
>>63918571
There is just one complete compilation of Biret's recordings, so yeah go with that. sorry about the confusion
>>63918585
From GOAT genius to 4chan shitposter in 7 generations!
shit this thread is dead
classical fags all went to bed
>>63919244
thank u kind sir, compliment accepted
I like art music! Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, the list goes on!
>>63920278
I see you like the underrated trio too.
>>63916472
whatever works with your beats.
if each bar has 2 prevalent beats, go for 2/2. If it has 4 prevalent beats, go for 4/4.
>>63916599
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwtAMGXyTI4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFncet5VHRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5n1pZn4izI
>>63920278
whats your favorite Bach fugue then, poser?
So, I'm getting kind of bored with music at the moment. Not much is really interesting me anymore. I'm kind of interested in getting into classical as it would be a huge step away from what I normally listen to lately.
I've always enjoyed the composition of post-rock songs which sometimes are on the verge of classical, I suppose. But anyways what pieces would you recommend if I wanted to hear strings in the vein of Sigur Ros? Especially like the song Andvari.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdOgohwHfrU
>>63913995
Is Donovan-Season of the Witch included?
>>63913995
I know that it was asked numerous times already but how do I get into classical?Do I start with the most famous composers like Mozart and Bach and does the people who play the pieces(forgot the right word about them) matters/how can I make the difference between them.Also what a mount of music theory will be enough to fully understand it because the people here and in general talk a lot about it and I cant understand pretty much anything.
>>63921402
Be slow. Take your time and find put different composers and conductors. Start out with the big names as they get mentioned a lot for a reason. They are great. Pic related is a guide to Mozart's pieces. The important thing is to not feel rushed. Also look for big pieces that you might remember from popular culture (Libiamo Ne'lieti Calici, 1812 Overture, Beethoven's 9th, etc.) Those will foster a love and understandability to classical.
Why is Dvorak's cello concerto so god-tier?
>>63921772
Thanks!I really appreciate it.
>>63922217
You're welcome.
>>63921314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgLU0gjPtI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4basuUUatf8
>>63921784
Because Dvořák is GOAT?
>>63922593
I accept this answer. What's some other essential Dvorak?
>>63922602
Quintets are a must. I'm sure you've at least listened to symphony 9, but his others are really good too. Personally digging 5 right now. I also like his violin and piano concertos.
His chamber music is pretty good in general, listen to his 12th Sq and his piano trios. Slavonic dances are good too, listen to different arrangements.
A pretty underrated composer by normies besides the new world desu. Though I did hear his 1st quintet on the radio today which made me happy.
>>63922727
>ywn write melodies as lyrical and beautiful as dvorak
Feels bad man
>>63919244
Considering he went to Oberlin he's probably some sort of tranny with blue hair too
>>63922727
His 7th is extraordinary. The 8th too. Both are better than The New World, which is a bunch of nice melodies held together with tape.
And 6th is slightly too repetitive, but very nicely Slavic. Recommend Kubelik and Kertesz.
>>63922770
The guy was practically gushing with melodic inventions. Hell, his violin concerto kinda suffers for it because there are so many great melodic ideas in there just jammed together.
>>63922784
You talking shit about the new world bro
>>63922804
>that 2nd subject horn solo in the cello concerto
>>63922784
Kubelik is usually goto Dvořák, I also really like his 7&9. I've also started listening to Vaclav Talich's Dvořák, need more.
>>63922861
ancerl, silvestri, kabasta
kabasta has a 9th that blows your socks off.
>>63922861
Yeah, he's very reliable, but I think Kertesz bests him with the 8th. The way he draws the symphony to an end is almost nostalgic, it's extraordinary.
>>63922890
kubelik desu is probably one of the most consistent conductors period.
i've only really disliked his beethoven out of everything i've heard from him.
>>63913995
Is anyone here a fan of Dutilleux? I was out at a concert yesterday and saw a performance of Tout un monde lointain and I was completely blown away. I know absolutely nothing about the guy, anyone have any recommended recordings of that piece or other pieces I should check out by him?
>>63923003
Listen to L'Arbe des Songs and the shadows of time
>>63923003
Shadows of Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ci5E-BCxSQ
>>63923003
>Tout un monde lointain
That was his own favorite of his work too.
>>63922890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VExtkeJLElk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f74DpGpltHw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWok9F2zpI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFvxW9t5T50
>>63923020
>>63923088
Thanks anons!
>>63923120
The cellist performing it was just spectacular. I'm wondering how that sort of performance will translate to just a recording. You could see on his face that he was feeling the emotion of the piece and he reacted very physically to big interval jumps and during the very jerky pizzicato and at big dynamic changes in the piece. It was incredible to watch.
>tfw you realize Chopin's Mazurkas are the best
>classical
kek
Music started in 1910
What are you all practising?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCLVB2tPY98
>>63923966
>Implying classical has to be before 1910
>mfw
Also keked at your pic. I hope that was trolling or ironic.
>>63924021
I'm writing instead. fugue in e maj
Recommend me classical that is similar to waporvawe
>>63923966
lol'd at that bait. that level of retardation is pretty impressive. got any similar screenshots?
>>63924535
I'm on my phone so not much more
I got the amazing replies to that tho
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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUSRfoOcUe4Y7HS_5QKxfRx3J5_WeOrcu
I didn't realise Phino's other mass got recorded.
>not including the model motet
Goddamn it
>>63913995
Lets get some love for some WW1 era italian / russian music. I'm fucking obsessed with scriabin and anyone who followed in his footsteps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KUWQW2khZQ&nohtml5=False
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNs6HX2a4GA
lets not forget scriabins fucked up genius son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbCsHTonpUg
>>63924438
john cage
>>63916192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSbmCoRXIJA
