Is there any better rap producer?
no, he's the top
As far as mixing/mastering. No, and I don't think anyone will ever be better than him. The guy who mixes for Kendrick is a close second.
no, he's the top
Forgetting someone?
>>63751101
holy fuck
nigga please
sorry, rza's better
>>63751101
this
>>63751101
go back to the matrix
>>63751113
If you don't realize how progressive his production is then you don't deserve to listen to music.
>>63751101
He is really the best part about Death Grips. Zach and Stefan get most of the credit though and that's kinda frustrating.
>>63751178
How is is progressive? Sounds a lot like some of the stuff that was coming out of the glitch scene in the early to mid 2000s
metro boomin
premier
kanye
the list goes on... chronic 2001, get rich or die trying, and gkmc are great tho
hundreds, literally thousands even
Dr Dre fucking blows and is only relevant at all due to influence. Everything he's done has aged like cat piss and holds little value beyond historical listening to hear what shitty pop rap was like in (insert year before hip hop was widely taken seriously as art)
motherfuck this woman beating clown and anyone who thinks 2001 or Compton is worth shit
DJ Premier, Marley Marl, The Bomb Squad, RZA
>>63751327
you sound like those horrible bronze league of legends players who flame all game and feed 5 mins into the game. lol idiot.
>>63751327
I bet you think Death Grips are good
>>63751023
There definitely better people when it comes to making beats. But actually producing? He's the best.
Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Andy Morin...
>>63751353
Exmilitary is ok but that's about it. decent live tho.
oh also 2001 is garbage-ass proto-ringtone rap that essentially ushered in the ABSOLUTE LOW POINT of hip hop as a whole, a crater the genre wouldn't crawl out of for nearly a decade
The Chronic is decent only because of Snoop
>>63751155
that song in kanyes album made me respect Young Metro's work a bit more 2bh
>>63751178
Yep. Andy's fucking incredible
>people itt actually saying the death grips guy
>>63751407
>>63751407
>implying he isn't far better than dre
Do you even listen to his work, or do you just dismiss it because "meme rap lmao"?
>>63751390
These
>>63751427
No, I'm not big on Dre either. And yes I have heard some of his work and I was not impressed.
>>63751349
you sound like a video game player
>>63751401
You didn't respect him before?
He's a prodigy senpai.
>>63751248
I'll take Madlib over Dre anyday, but Dre has him on consistency.
is the guy from DG really this amazing? I haven't checked it out
>>63751524
nah they're just memeing
>>63751524
Nah, it's just fanboys.
>>63751524
Ignore >>63751532 & >>63751537, he's actually one of the best producers of all time.
Check out his soundtrack to this for proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtW7Qz0a3o0
>>63751532
>>63751537
>Iz just the le dumb fans XD
>>63751495
I realy didnt care much, i remember the "METRO BOOMIN WHANT SOME MORE NIGGA" from some songs featuring rappers i didnt enjoy so much.
I started paying more attention to what he does in his songs, and fuck hes like the only reason to listen to Drake and Furure's WATTBA.
>>63751586
This literally sounds like IDM from a decade ago mixed with a bit of industrial techno
I see nothing original here
Primo
Pete Rock
RZA
El-P, MF Doom, the list goes on.
Gangsta rap is boring, repetitive beats. Especially Dres.
Metro Boomin
London On Da Track
Southside
808 Mafia
TM88
Lex Luger
the list goes on
>>63751524
he's really nothing spectacular
>>63751617
>MF Doom
Prince Paul
>>63751617
Idiot.
>>63751626
Ricky Racks
Wheezy
Goose With Another One
C4
Isaac Flame
the list goes on
dr headphone man needs a team of 100 people to do what dj quik does alone and ten times better
>>63751524
not even a dg fanboy, but you gotta admit he's pretty damn great
>>63751671
plus ten years time to do it
>>63751678
how so?
>>63751656
you seriously think MF DOOM is a better producer than Dre?
Heck you didnt even mention madlib at least
>>63751686
In terms of more pleasurable to listen to give me DOOM, Dre is obviously more technically proficient tho
Metro boomin
>>63751023
Zaytoven
So glad to see Andy getting the recognition he deserves in this thread, he's really a fuckin gem. Too bad people instantly trash him without hearing his beats.
>>63751754
I've heard them and they're nothing special.
>>63751754
All you faggots praising Andy as some sort of god obviously haven't listened to very much of the last 30+ years of IDM.
>>63751809
>Andy's production
>IDM
ayy lmao
>>63751023
Madlib, easily.
Other very noteworthy contenders:
808 Mafia
Metro Boomin
Andy Morin
Shawn Kemp
DJ Premier
El-P
>>63751841
it's so derivative of IDM, how could you deny this?
>>63751850
damn, good taste nigga.
>>63751101
Yep, just listen to that shit at the hook, I cum every time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn3vMyopjXI
>>63751809
or any of the Birmingham techno scene and people like ancient methods. or the early gritty Grime clashes and radio shows from ~2001-2004. Or the mid-oughts glitch scene when rhythm came into the fold. the kouhei matsunaga whose been combining abstract hip hop with experimental electronic and glitch elements for years. or even some of the more abstract hip-hoppy things released on skam way back when.
i mean, yes, if you've only been exposed to trap or boom-bap in hip-hop i'm sure his beats seem phenomenal, but viewed through the lens of experimental electronic and underground dance music (which seems to influence him greatly) it's really nothing mind-blowing.
I'm frankly embarrassed to be associated with Death Grips these days.
Fucking meme-lord teens. Jesus Christ.
>>63751961
this, exactly f a m
>>63751969
I wish Meme Grips never did their ARG on /mu/
>>63751961
Maybe, but the thread is for rap producers better than Dre, and as a rap producer in the semi-mainstream Andy is phenomenal.
Is praising Andy Morin as a great rap producer some new ironic maymay I wasn't aware of yet????
>>63752006
oh fuck, don't make Andy Morin into a meme. i love him too much
Ali Shaheed Muhammad
>>63751327
2001 wasn't bad, though. Had too much filler, maybe, but that's common on hip-hop records.
Aight, I'm checking out Death Grips now. If the production isn't literally perfect yall owe me an apology.
>>63751969
>caring what people think of you
thats not very death grips senpai
WHAT THE FUCK
>>63751023
DJ Premier
Ali Shaheed Muhammad
Pete Rock
Madlib
J Dilla
Kanye West
El-P
Flatlander
Odd Nosdam
Flying Lotus
Earl Sweatshirt
Lil Ugly Mane
DJ Paul
Juicy J
D'Angelo
>>63752587
not to be that guy, but flatlander was just another name death grips used, not andy's stage name
>>63752649
oh, thanks, didn't know that
Dre is one-dimensional as fuck
>>63751023
more like dr talentless hack
>>63751023
This
>>63752587
Plus Nick Wiz, Black Milk, Oh No, MF DOOM, Nujabes, Apollo Brown, Oddisee, RZA, Necro, Damu the Fudgemunk, Large Pro, Hi-Tek.
So many, sorry to say but Dre just got famous and rich, his work is just overall altogether.
And yeah Madlib for fuck's sake
>>63751327
I think californoa gangsta rap killed old school new york hip hop.
Why do NWA always say things like "I started this gangsta shit"
No you didn't Schooly D was doing gangster Rap years before you.
>>63751248
no one else in this thread comes close to madlib
the sheer variety of sounds
>>63751276
hello zach
>>63751694
Doom is not famous for beats my man.
>>63754878
are you retarded?
>>63751087
Kendricks mixes are modern mobile phone garbage
>>63751023
Da Betaminerz, Pete Rock, Brian G and most of all QDIII who does G funk better than anybody else
>>63756271
Oh forgot Nujabes somehow.
>>63751101
this so much
>>63751626
Mike will made it and zaytoven my dude
the superior '90s west coast hip-hop producer.
>>63751248
this in most areas where it matters
>>63757577
what's his best produced album
>>63757632
any of his first three albums.
>>63757632
Safe + Sound
>>63757760
shit's so cash. Recommend me similar classic west coast sounds senpai
>>63751023
Someone who actually produces their own shit. Warren G, Eminem, and so many others are Dre's real producers
>>63752960
He didnt have that much impact, however, NWA did. Stop with your little fun facts, trying to knock NWA
Tyler the Creator
diplo
>>63751155
The Prince of FL Studio
9th Wonder being the king
>>63751401
That was a stolen hudmo beat and metro added some drums.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HudMo/status/713440570694377472
>>63751023
J Dilla, Premier, rza, madlib, I mean like come on. Don't get me wrong Dre is great but there are so many better producers out their.
y o u n g m e t r o
mouse on da track
Erick Sermon!
Def squad is goat imo
his productions on double or nothing, enigma, the joints on jamals lcnb lp, his productions for the early redmam,..... more and more
bought hittin switches on 12" 2 ago
i hope my neigbhours like that bassline
i don't have to mention all the EPMD stuff from the late 80's
beatminerz are crazy too!
they produced enta the stage by black moon and smiff n wessuns da shinin Lp. Also bunch of other bangers for BCC members.
got their remix of 'headz aint ready' on wax and that shit is pure gold
also how can it be that finesse, buckwild, showbiz and diamond d aren't mentioned? buckwilds crate diggin whatever called compilation is so sick. the special ed or kool keith remixes and 'what a year' by chubb rock are so good!
to lazy to type more, but how does it come that havoc, q-tip and large pro aren't mentioned?
>>63751101
this so much
>>63751101
This. Dr. Dre was great but has stopped innovating imo. His recent music is just bland and forgettable. Andy hasn't been around nearly as long but is much more versatile.
>>63759056
shame on me that some of the producers i listed were already mentioned. just flew over the thread
Q- Tip
RIP Phife Dawg
Why is there no love for Riley Lake and Dan The Automator?
>>63759468
Because we're not going to report our entire library here, thanks for your contribution :D
>>63759468
The Thing is everyone puts Deltron, Dr. Octagon, Busdriver, Milo as their favourites but no one ever mentions this producers. Which make even greater contributions than the rappers in some of the albums.
DJ EGGWHITE SALAD
>>63759468
Kid Koala is better than Dan
>People ITT not appreciating Andy's top tier production because of DG memes
>>63760163
/mu/ only cares for memes
>>63760163
Guys I love Death Grips like hell but your dear Andy's career is a tad short compared to other producers mentioned here.
Premo can match him beat-by-beat and has like twenty times as many under his belt.
>>63751023
how is this even a question
objectively the answer is of course Dilla
>>63757918
Ice-T came around at the same time as Schooly D and had one hell on an impact though.
>>63751155
Not even the best trap producer.
>>63752960
They didn't create the style, but they started the trend.
>>63760236
But the work he's done is so high quality that it makes up for that.
>>63760081
Carpal tunnel syndrome was shit
>>63760471
Yeah I see what you mean, still I was quite disappointed by Fashion Week — like everyone I guess.
>>63760471
lol
>>63760910
Yeah, I think Fashion Week was mostly just unused instrumentals. Some real highlights, though.
>>63751023
>>63751248
gotta be Madlib or RZA (although he isn't consistently good)
any other answer is wrong
>>63751392
buddy are you retarded or somethin
He's clearly not Nujabes
>>63760345
Metro Boomin owes a lot to Lex Luger for his style but i think that Metro is hands down the goat trap producer
>>63751101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni0LCHNwYB4
>>63751327
I understand where this is coming from. The chronic is great tho.
Dre or Harry Fraud?
>>63760471
He's pretty much only done hip-hop production for one act though
hmu when Andy Morin has done considerable hip-hop work for more than one artist.
>all these people not listing Erick Arc Elliot
Why
>>63751401
That was a Hud Mo beat like most of Kanye's recent good beats
