>>63664047
because how can i prove i'm smart and better than everyone if i don't shill a dead musical form made for the wealthy bourgeois

I liked him a lot until I saw a taping of Dar Rheingold and the staging was so stupid it made me wish I had just kept listening to the recording I have

>>63664047
>Why do people like this guy again?

pretty melodies & lovely harmonies & breathtaking climaxes. he was a true musical genius. also there were no nazis in wagners time.

b...b..but Stephen fry lieks him

>>63664047
a totally anachronistic statement. (American) Musicologists have also tried to pin Beethoven's music as war-provoking by detaching the music for its actual social and historical context.

Thinking about seeing Tristan & Isolde nearby. Also just listened to the 1963 Hans Knapperbusch GOAT Parsifal recording, Havent really delved into Ring yet, but that's partly 'cause I feel like I'd need to go through the whole series at one time.

Tristan und isolde

>>63664492
>>63664047
>wrote nothing but cheesy overblown trash
How is Tristan & Isolde cheesy? Literally had a fundamental effect on western art musics harmony. Also affecting an entire art-movement, Wagner was highly influential in the movement of Symbolism.

>>63664735
>wrote nothing but cheesy overblown trash
or overblown for that matter, you just need a glance at the stage to see that claim is false.

>>63664284
probably because they're twins

>>63664284
>he's gay

I bet Wagner would like him very much

Nazi's weren't even a thing when he was alive.