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Was this guy good?
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I don't like his music, but he isn't terrible or anything.
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>>63583187

Yes, listen to memory lane and consider his character as a whole as part of his act.

A great musician, played all the instruments on his records, but would oft fall apart when playing live due to being too drunk and/or high, or to not being drunk and/or high enough.

Like a sad and demonic the Beatles.

P.s If you are relatively happy or have never been sad don't bother listening o Elliot smith.
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>>63583313
>P.s If you are relatively happy or have never been sad don't bother listening o Elliot smith.

don't be an idiot
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>>63583331

Am I?
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I'm a sad cunt and I listen to a dickton of slowcore and depressive singer songwriters and I think he's mediocre as FUCK

vocals are too airy and thin, his guitar playing and songwriting are great but it all doesn't come together incredibly or anything
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>>63584099
>vocals are too airy and thin
yeah that's the main dealbreaker for me
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>>63584099

>unironically using the term """slow core"""
>unironically self-proclaimed """sad fuck"""
>being a cunt

you need to be liquidated
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>>63584198
>slowcore isn't a genre
>people aren't allowed to be aware of their inherent melancholy
:^)
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>>63584239

>slowcore isn't a genre

No, it isn't.

>people aren't allowed to be aware of their inherent melancholy
>inherent melancholy
>inherent

You are so fucking embarrassing.
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>>63584266
explain how slowcore isn't at least a subgenre.

explain how melancholy can't be a personal trait.
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>>63584284

lmao do you even know what "inherent" means

I was actually going to reply to your post before being made aware that you literally have no idea what you're saying, you can stop replying now
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>>63584391
good arguments mate, you must be mad
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>>63584414

>called out for being a clueless adolescent pseud
>literally nothing of value to say in response
>"LOL YOU MAD"

You are so fucking embarrassing.
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>>63584451
>still hasn't argued either points
personal attacks are always good though

discuss without fallacies please
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>>63584498

I don't argue with children. Everything you've said thusfar has been worthless. You can stop now.
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>>63584508
another ad hominem, you're either very angry that I don't think Elliot Smith is the greatest singer-songwriter to live or you spend time pretending you win Internet arguments by being pretentious

argue points or don't start shit, you've literally argued nothing
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Slowcore is a fucking genre.
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>>63584508
actually pathetic
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>>63584284

Elliot smith didn't try to write 'slow core' music, you're showing actual autistic traits in being incredibly weird about whether slow core is a genre or not. Elliot also did not try to write 'melancholy music', that you assume he did again is showing actual autistic traits. I'm not saying you're autistic, but that you seem to not understand there is a thing which binds humans alike and it is called personal expression.
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>>63584825
how can I be smart and non autistic like you
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>>63584825
Not even that guy but I don't see how disagreeing over whether or not a genre exists is at all a sign of actual autism. And I would disagree that elliot smith didn't try to make melancholy music. He wrote the songs they didn't just randomly come out of him as a certain unexpected genre.
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>>63583187
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Really dig him most of the time. Self-titled is my favorite.

So did he kill himself or what?
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>>63584871

aaaand there we are. Thanks for validating everything I said, you fucking moron. :)
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I'd like Figure 8 a lot more if it was like 5 songs shorter.
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>>63584931
it was a valid question
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>>63584931
>can't even answer the question

Lol go back to your GRRM threads faggot
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>>63584543

Do you have any fucking idea how embarrassing you are? The way you type is so forced and contrived, and constantly using terms like "ad hominem" and "fallacies" in this context, and outside an academic setting, is just the cringiest thing. You used the word "inherent" WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT MEANS, yet you have the audacity to call ME "pretentious"? You expect me to enter a dialogue with you, and to take you seriously?

I bet you're a master when it comes to socialising. I'd recommend a screening for learning difficulties. :)
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>>63584931
Kill yourself you fucking stupid bitch. I hope you fucking choke on sixty black cocks you dumb motherfucker.
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>>63585037

Go outside, kid.
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>>63585032
Whatever kid. Oh I'm sorry did I fucking trigger you? Were you fucking triggered you little cry baby? Fuck off. Literally saying not a fucking word to you and you're gonna fucking mute me because you have a problem with me just fucking talking shit in all chat? Honestly go fuck yourself to the highest fucking caliber you fucking asshole. So sick of little fucking bitches like you who fucking have a fucking opinion like you're fucking sitting over there like, oh I'm some fucking problem to you because I'm not even fucking saying a fucking word to you. Fuck off. Call it what you fucking asshole? Hormonal? Kid you're a fucking bullshitter. You're a fucking bullshitter. Go fuck yourself. You ain't fucking nothing. You ain't fucking anyone. You ain't got a fucking clue in your fucking head who I am or what I'm fucking about. That I'm fucking calling these fucking kids tryhards, has your fucking panties in a bunch for what? For what? For fucking what kid? Honestly I'm fucking sick of kids like you. Literally go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself and everything that you fucking stand for because I'm gonna tell you right now, you don't stand for shit kid. You don't stand for fucking shit. Please. Yeah, talk in all chat. Yeah like anybody fucking cares kid go find a fucking friend to talk to, right? Because you can't fucking talk to me, you can't fucking treat me like a fucking person. You ain't fucking real kid. You ain't fucking real. You ain't got a fucking real fucking bone in your fucking body kid. So go fucking all chat, and make some fucking friends. Alright? You can make some fucking friends because "Oh, this guy's hormonal," pffft "Uh I'm gonna mute him," pffft fuck off. You're literally a fucking cancer on this fucking world kid. Never fucking forget it.
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>>63585053
HO HO HO IT'S MAGIC
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>>63585057

Never seen this before, neat.
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>>63585053
Holy shit you're such a fucking dumbass, you know that? You are the bottom of the Earth. The people nobody wants to talk to. You spend so much time listening to shitty music yet you think it's good. You spend your time obsessing about people and posting them on the internet to look cool yet in reality if people in real life saw that what would they think? They think you were a loser, you fucking loser. You aren't interested in starting a discussion with me? It's probably because you don't even know how. I'm not retarded, I'm telling the truth. Know what you're doing before you do it. The way you're acting now is so childish I can't even begin to explain. Listen to a mature record that isn't a totally exaggerated mess of emotions and poor musical merit. Which is what you listen to now. How about some avant-garde jazz? Try A Love Supreme, it's pretty entry level. You probably won't get it though because you're a worthless sack of shit. You will never amount to anything in life. Go outside, take a walk, don't think about your edgy so deep music for once. Once you've done that, come back and try to look at what you're doing right now. Maybe after a few times you'll see that you're a complete child and need to improve. Or maybe you have a serious mental issue. Maybe Autism? I'm guessing that's it. Seek a doctor or therapy to help that out. Or maybe you don't. Maybe you're just a close minded retard with no understanding of anything at all.

Don't even try to bring this argument anywhere else. I won't respond, or I'll think of something to get you mad since you're easily made upset. This discussion is over, sorry loser.
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>>63584900

Compartmentalising human expression, or feeling incredibly compelled by the need to do so, shows a misunderstanding and a self-distancing from genuine human emotion. Elliott was a sad guy, he was abused in childhood, ugly, and suffered terribly by addictions. Music was his outlet, and his music can be considered beautiful, only, you cheapify it by attempting to place this label, this tag, on his product. You say oh, he's good at pretending to be sad.

You are used to being delivered 'packaged' and 'manufactured' goods by the music industry so you aren't wholly to be blamed in thinking that all of human expression is completely manufactured.
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>>63585032
I don't think I've ever seen someone try so hard to come off as intellectual on 4chan.

I'm interested to know what kind of literature you like.
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>>63585057
holy kek
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>>63585099
Are you actually autistic? You do know that genres exist in every artistic medium right? Or are you actually in highschool?
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>>63585094

This one too, cool! Thank you for literally copying, pasting, and then saving these gems! I can see it's really paying off for you! ^^
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>>63585053
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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What are some other slow core bands?
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>>63585106

lol did you even read that post
You aren't even trying any more
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>>63585053
od fucking dammit, I went about a month without seeing this meme and assumed it was finally fucking over, but I guess not. You just HAD to post it once again, didn't you? You felt SO fucking inclined to bring this cancerous piece of shit back to the face of this board, like it was your God given duty or some shit. This meme isn't even funny, m8, like seriously. It's fucking annoying, just like you. Every time I see this shit, I want to strangle the guy responsible for posting it, and that guy just happens to be you. So congratulations, you are officially a fag. I swear to God if I ever see this meme again I'm gonna bang my head against a wall. It's the most assinine thing on the planet, it's not entertaining, it's not funny, it doesn't even make any fucking sense. It's just a waste of space. This post could've gone to something that could actually have contributed to the planet, or even just this board, but no. Instead, it has to go to this fucking meme.
Please, just go outside or something. Find something better to do with your life than posting shitty memes that aren't even funny on a fucking image board for Chinese cartoons. Your mum's getting tired of you living in her basement.

Fucking idiot
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>>63585126
red house painters, carissa's weird, duster, low, bedhead, codeine

it's a legitimate genre, this thread is hilarious
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>>63585117

>conflating "genres" with "schools" and "movements"
>literally using "autistic" as an insult and expecting to be taken seriously

l
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I cannot begin to describe the disdain I have for this sort of music. To be honest, if I focus really hard on the instruments, shut out the vocals and pretend that they were being sung by someone tolerable and with lyrics that aren’t embarrassing, I can potentially see why this isn’t bad. But the truth is that she is there, she is awful, she is unbearably moronic and she does ruin any little bits of skill that the drums or guitars bring in. After one of my friends declared Barnett his “new waifu” I decided to check this out, and after confronting him about this absolute nonsense, he made a comment along the likes of only enjoying it to impress girls at parties. This album is exactly the sort of think that those teenage girls who listen to “indie” as an image or a statement would lap up. They’ll talk about the bad vocals as “dylan-esque”, and will break into singing quotes from the frankly embarrassing lyrics whenever they can, because they’re SO ME XD, snapping up lines like “I want to wash out my head with turpentine cyanide” as if they’re extremely meaningful poetry. And jesus, I haven’t even mentioned the accent. If there was ever a convincing case for a nuke heading right to the middle of Australia’s eastern coast, this is it. An album filled with nonsense psuedo-meaningful ‘indie’ lyricism, complete with an image you’d expect one of those Sundance films advertised as indie (but actually aren’t), mostly forgettable instrumentation and songwriting, and one of the worst voices you’ve ever heard. Is there anything worse?
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>>63585134
>implying I'm the anon you were replying to

No I just enjoy watching losers freak out over unimportant shit. Again, you make it very obvious that you don't actually know anything outside of your 8th period vocabulary quizzes. Please try to actually strengthen your intellect before you decide to pretend you're smart on an anonymous image board. Thank you in advance.
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>>63585145
Thanks senpai. Gonna give them all a listen.
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>>63585117
haha, how can autism be used as an insult? Only an ignorant cunt would use autism as an insult. (And there's nothing I hate more than ignorance)

Autism is a gift in my case, I have an IQ of over 150 which makes me technically a genius thanks to my autism. I've been going through school all my life being bored out of my fucking brains getting at least 95% on all my tests (and all the incorrect answers were silly mistakes) because I'm just too fucking smart for school I can't wait for everyone else to learn something I already knew within the first day or too of being taught it. Every year I scored the best of my year on these stupid multiple choice tests we do and the headmaster came to my class to tell me that, which obviously resulted in being called a 'nerd' which is true but I shouldn't be ridiculed for it.

I recently became home educated so I could learn at my own pace and I'm getting my GCSEs done in 1/4 of the time everyone else has to do it in, I'm also doing more than double the average amount of GCSEs that usually would be done.

I used to get paid $30 an hour working online, which is more than the teaching assistants at my old school earned, it was so fun pointing that out to them.

So, in conclusion, calling someone autistic is not an insult, in my case, it makes me highly gifted.

One more thing, I don't know if this has anything to do with my autism but I am a sociopath so I'm not hindered by irrational emotions like guilt, compassion, empathy etc.

haha, the most satisfying this is to know that you will all see this as a waste of a natural gift that I am undeserving hahaha, that brings me great satisfaction.

I'm practically perfect, let the jealousy flow through you.
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>>63585163
I missed the part where you said schools and movements, would you mind pointing it out?
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>>63585185
Is this a pasta I'm not aware of?
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>>63585209
nothing in this thread is pasta, just good arguments
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An Elliott Smith thread turns into autistic shitflinging and pasta spam. Fuck this board.

I remember when we used to have good Elliott threads before /mu/ turned into a retard room for schoolchildren.
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he's almost always great, except sometimes he comes across a bit too whiny and dramatic.
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terms like "slowcore" only exist because embarrassing, thoughtless adolescents like the one in this thread perpetuate them in a disgustingly (literally) autistic and self-serving bid to compartmentalise and "apply" art: the term "bubblegum bass" is a comparable modern example. I know probably a dozen people in "the real life" that like RHP, and if I were to use the term "slowcore" when discussing them, I would be (rightly) laughed at.
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>>63585284
>>63585290
It doesn't matter. Listen kid you don't want to see my other side. I have a wolf inside me with a muzzle on, but the muzzle is about to come off. You broke her heart, and I will break yours. She is a nice girl, how dare you use her like this. How come people like you get to date her? Then people like me have to sit in the shadows and be the shoulders to cry on. Listen Kid, I don't have time for FUCKING games. I am a nice guy, but when you make a nice guy angry; the world shakes. Don't do it again.
... You will regret this the next FULL MOON. You mess with me you mess with the pack bud. FUCK you. Get ready.
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>>63585284

Its literally one kid that lost an argument like 10 posts in who's resorted to spamming pasta.
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>>63585290
Nailed it.
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>>63585290
who the fuck cares, lol.
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He never made a bad album.
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>>63585170

Could you give an example of verbosity in anything I've posted? Genuinely curious. Try some reading comprehension, too. Thanks.
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>>63585117

I would love to waste more of my day trying to communicate to you, only that I wouldn't. We are going to read revelations and hope this thread isn't here when we get back.
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>>63585193

what
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>>63585365
This was also me.
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>>63585348

I'm actually quite concerned for your mental health at this point, do I need to contact 4chan admin to prevent you shooting a bunch of people?
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>>63585399
Thanks for the (you).
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>>63585399

Why are you talking to yourself?
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>>63585414

Haven't heard this one since primary school! :)
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>>63585435
Very good! Tell me some more
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>>63585365
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>>>63585365 (You)
>This was also me.
me btw
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>>63585435

Plot twist: it's your first day.
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>>63583187
nah he's trash
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>>63585435
Why were you talking to yourself a year ago?
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>>63585099
Compartmentalizing is literally the way we understand anything senpai. I am not saying he wasn't actually sad. I'm just saying that he wasn't unaware that's how his music was coming out. He was in Heatmeiser before his solo work and put on different characters for the music because it didn't suit his personality. That alone shows you there is a level of intent in what he was doing.
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this is me posting
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>>63585471
Why are you making serious replies?
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i r8 this thread an 8/8. pls do not h8 or compens8 for your penis size. it makes me ir8. i masturb8 to these replies.
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>>63585482
Idk I skipped over the autism I try to ignore it and I like talking about elliot smith
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>>63585449

What would you like to know :)

>>63585457

Pretty funny, nice contribution, hope you stick around.
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>>63585471
>unaware

Lol you didn't even use the word right! "Simony" and "poopoo" are words I've heard and u don't know them!
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>>63585497
>Idk I skipped over the autism
How did you manage that? Even the post you replied too is full blown autism.
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>>63585498
Just tell it like it is girlfriend
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>>63585521
Yeah I mean besides that I didn't follow the progression into full sperging just replied to one autistic post which is hardly rare around here
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fukken saved for pasta
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>>63585471

Then you're getting into 'whoring of the soul' realm, which is a different conversation entirely!
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>>63585591
You're an idiot
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>>63585616

You're the kid of an idiot.
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>>63585649
AAAAAAAAAAH!!!

Every FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES! I've had it up to HERE with stupid fucking memes! You guys make me want to KILL MYSELF! Is that what you fucking want? For me to fucking KILL MYSELF and write on my suicide note "Cause of suicide: Couldn't handle all of the stupid fucking memes, killed myself"? Because that's what it might as well fucking say!

You guys are literally, L I T E R A L L Y incapable of having even the SIMPLEST of fucking discussion without "MEME THIS, MEME THAT, PROBABLY TYLO BE CHILLIN, HERE'S A PIC OF HUMBLE CANNONS BY AARON ELLIS, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA EBIN AMIRITE?" Fucking STOP IT you pathetic fucking FAGGOTS, you are such fucking cancer that I cannot even fathom how you fucking scumbags live your dumb gay lives. Don't you have a job to get to, schoolwork to finish or a family to attend to? Do you literally do ANYTHING productive with your lives other than post stupid fucking memes on the music section of a god damn anime imageboard? You fucking people make me sick and you're damn lucky I don't have any of your fucking addresses you fucking pieces of shits. I'd spit in your faces.
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>>63585677

Keep on posting these.
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>>63585677
I agree the board is garbage, but watching this anon get so mad is pretty entertaining. Some of the earlier posts in this thread are hilarious.
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>>63585752

It's what happens when you try to force yourself as a meme. iNsane!
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>>63585752
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
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>>63585818

Nah I actually feel sorry about this. Get a grip of yourself man.
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>>63585858
You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.
How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?
You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.
I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.
You nigger.
You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.
You are the Baltimore of South America.
Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.
Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.
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>>63585951

There are some who dance to the sounds of embittered tears and failed dreams.

They are having a party around you, my friend!
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>>63586029
*slow claps*

*steps out of the shadows*

Heh... not bad, kid. Not bad at all. Your meme, I mean. It's not bad. A good first attempt. It's plenty dank... I can tell it's got some thought behind it... lots of quotable material...

But memeing isn't all sunshine and rainbows, kid. You're skilled... that much I can tell. But do you have what it takes to be a Memester? To join those esteemed meme ranks? To call yourself a member of the Ruseman's Corps? Memeing takes talent, that much is true. But more than that it takes heart. The world-class Memesters - I mean the big guys, like Johnny Hammersticks and Billy Kuahana - they're out there day and night, burning the midnight meme-oil, working tirelessly to craft that next big meme.

And you know what, kid? 99 times out of a hundred, that new meme fails. Someone dismisses it as bait, or says it's "tryhard," or ignores it as they copy/paste the latest shitpost copypasta dreamt up by those sorry excuses for cut-rate memers over at reddit. The Meme Game is rough, kid, and I don't just mean the one you just lost :^). It's a rough business, and for every artisan meme you craft in your meme bakery, some cocksucker at 9gag has a picture of a duck or some shit that a million different Johnny No-Names will attach a milion different captions to. Chin up, kid. Don't get all mopey on me. You've got skill. You've got talent. You just need to show your drive.
See you on the boards...
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>>63586029
>embittered
Woah nice vocabulary where did u find it?
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>>63586048

I don't know man, I think you got caught up in the memeage, and lost yourself. Now you are just nothing but a ghost of a would be meme in the land of smoke and mirrors. Why do you run with it? Change direction. I wonder, what did happen? Why couldn't we be friends in fact?

You don't need to make commentaries on me, like a limpet boat underside, I am always waiting to be your friend. People don't realise this, my man.
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Should've kept the name Steven.

Elliott is such an atrocious geek name.
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>>63586342

Steven smith - accountant
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>>63586392
No, that's Elliott.

Steven fucks your bitch.
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