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Why is it okay to publicly listen to rap or hip hop but not metal?
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For example everyday im working out in a really small gym and i see these guys setting up speakers and playing hip hop or rap loudly while im listening to metal with earphones. Once they leave i put up some metal music on speakers and once somebody comes in they are like "what the fuck dude? What is that shit?". So why is it okay to listen to rap or hip hop but not metal in gym? It is not like im forcing my metal music on the by using earphones i only put it on speakers when nobody is in gym. Im really sure that both hip hop and rap or good for working out. It is not like im listening to cannibal corpse on speakers.
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what metal?
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>>63343476
Sepultura, Manowar, Exodus, Overkill, Testament, Megadeth
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Are you retarded?

No one gives a shit if you listen to popular metal.

But yeah if you're the type of fag to listen to 26 minute dronefests or literal Nazi symphonic black metal, people are going to wonder what the fuck is wrong with you.

You should count yourself lucky, because my gym plays fucking awful metalcore shit pretty much constantly.
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>>63343456
>I only listen to metal on the gym speakers when no one else is in the gym
>people in the gym complain when i play metal on the speakers

only one of these statements can be true op
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Because metal doesn't inspire or give ambition. It's for crybaby mama boys who hate themselves internally and externally.

>prove me wrong
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>>63343456

Because hip hop is a much more popular and mainstream genre (at the least the type I assume they will tend to play) and so is much more of a normal, expected sound for the average person to hear in public. Metal is much less popular, in general people would find it a much more distracting sound and also the aesthetics are more arresting and would sound more aggressive and potentially irritating or unpleasant to your average person. Basically social norms of popular vs unpopular music.
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Because hip hop is "chill" and meal is "for children"
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>>63343529
>Because metal doesn't inspire or give ambition.
>being this brainwashed by negroes and their merchant friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zkPqg-75g
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>>63343529
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>>63343456
I have the same problem, except it's country being played loudly and I listen to punk in my headphones. I guess it's based on where you are, I live in Kentucky and there literally isn't any non-country music stations on the radio.
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>>63343577
Why do these dumb niggers thinking my post was bait?
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>>63343586
>punk
FUCKINGFAGGOT PLSDIE
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>>63343492
Shit was expecting you to go full autism and blast some Sun O))) or Blasphemy.
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>>63343456
white guilt. i mean come on just look at Chicago Detroit and Baltimore, we give them everything, why wouldnt they think they control the air too?
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>>63343679
Fuck off you race baiting KEK.
>white guilt

White guilt does not exist amongst people above 80 IQ.
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>>63343492
Because your taste in metal is shit, that's why
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>>63343699
>Megadeth
>Shit
Pick one
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>>63343731
>any megadeath past Youthanasia
>good
You'll have to go with one too friendo
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>>63343731
All metal is shit. Get over yourself fucking outcast crybaby. You'll grow out of this phase soon enough. Your parents will be thankful.
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>>63343567
This is possibly the lamest thing I've ever heard. Not in an ironic way or anything, just something which everyone involved should be deeply embarrassed about.
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>>63343754
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>>63343763
Not bait. Just one of my many radical opinions.
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>>63343770
What are you implying here cuckboy?
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>>63343799
I'm clearly samefagging. I'm still not understanding your reasoning in pointing it out.
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>>63343827
Memeing your way out of an argument with zero points.
>inb4 (You)
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As someone who doesn't like metal but enjoys various other forms of harsh music, I like listening to metal in the gym. It's good workout music.
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>>63343852
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>>63343560
>Because hip hop is "chill"
but working out sin't so that doesn't make sense
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>>63343852
>meal is shit
>an argument
(you)
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>>63343920
Exactly. It is interesting how metalheads are considered to be arrogant pricks about their music while it looks like metal supporters respect musical tastes of other people while hip hop fags here are complete faggots thinking their wannabe gangsta music is somehow superior. Actually people who listen to hip hop surprise me. Like how white kid from wealthy family thinks he is a gangster and comes from streets just because he listens to hip hop.
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>>63343512
What do you expect him to instantly turn down the music when somebody comes in? Are you a faggot or what?
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>>63344153
Your opinion is fucking shit. I hope one of these wiggers you have a such a deep hatred for blows your fucking wig off.
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>>63344183
Are you aware of the fact that you are white and from a good family and you are not a nigger? Stop trying to be black.
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>>63344183
wigger detected
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>>63343456
What?

Its perfectly fine to listen to metal in public. You guys care way too much what other people think. Fucking children.
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>>63343456
You're not very alpha. Any conversation should go as follows:

>Can you turn that down please
>Why
>Because I don't like metal
>Thats a shame, I'm not turning it down

Just tell people to fuck off.
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>>63344207
>>63344218
Thought I was on /b/ for a sec. Nigger has become too big of maymay on all boards. You guy's edgy reposts get so old so quickly.
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>>63343812
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>>63344312
>typing legitimate sentences
>responding with name calling
>memester2016
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Idk how people get pumped up by listening to hip hop music doesn't make me want to work out harder at all
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>>63344355
Listen to Xavier Wulf. Bet he will appeal to some of you scene-weenie metalfags.
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>>63343456

Hip Hop = Black excellence
Metal = White supremecy
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>>63344376
Metal is only hated because niggers and wiggers don't like music that requires talent and creativity
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>>63344332
Are you aware that you are on 4chan right now? Your persistent 'pls no bully' posts would indicate otherwise.

Acting like this after calling metal fans crybabies without any provocation to begin with is a rather large contradiction. Gr8 B8 8/8
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>>63344384
Used to listen to metal everyday. All I ever listened to. Found that hiphop has more substance behind it. Metal music is all the same. It's just levels of heaviness, with added effects/noises to change the subgenre.
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>>63344390
Implying I care if you like me or my opinions. Or thinking I'm in fear of getting roasted by fat neckbeards.
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Is it wrong to unironically like Eminem?
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>>63344401
nice false flagging nigger you've never listened to metal in your life but if you think hip hop music has any substance whatsoever you need to pick up a book on music theory
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>>63344445
False flagging? Also, it doesn't matter what some music theory book says. Music is all opinion. Thinking there is any logic behind the making of it, is absolute blasphemy to artistic creation.
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>>63344445
>musical theory
>metal

Oh boy you can strum powerchords really fat I'm so gushing wet for your guitar oooh sweeping you knwo how to use your fingers anon ooooh


basically all popular music today is technically unimpressive. Fucking nirvana had more impact then any of the artists you've listed and they never even used full chords. I'd relate if you were on about jazz or something because at least the time signatures can trip you up.
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>>63344472
>it doesn't matter what some music theory book says
Stop listening to music.
>>63344519
>nirvana
you're gonna be late for school anon
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>>63344533
Stop listening to music because I don't follow your guidelines? Bet you vote anything liberal. Or not at all.
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>>63343529
When you present a nonbased theory you are the one who should prove it at first
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>>63343456
If anybody gives you bullshit for metal then give them bullshit for listening to fucking hip hop
You both are listening to shit workout music by the way
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>>63343456
>once somebody comes in they are like "what the fuck dude? What is that shit?"
I don't see them telling you to turn it off there, anon, just asking what it is.
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>>63344153
>metal supporters respect musical tastes of other people
>'hip hop fags here are complete faggots thinking their wannabe gangsta music is somehow superior'
>saying that metalheads aren't judgemental about the music tastes of others and the immediately doing just that

Come on, anon, I listen to plenty of hip-hop and metal, there's no reason to be a dick
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>>63343456
It's not more 'OK,' normies just prefer it, you fucking autist. They'll be fine with any radio-friendly music, whether that's hip hop or metal.
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>>63343505
>>63343456
why do you pay money to spend time picking things up and putting them down?

I really don't understand how you could do that and feel remotely good about yourself unless you have ab, and absolutely zero self awareness.

Here's a playlist for your next gym visit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaL5SevDM2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK0njkATf84
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>>63344519
Ding ding. Hipster alert. For sure nirvana was the best band ever keep telling yourself that maybe one day another person will start believing that overrated band with only 2 songs worth listening to. Much impact such nirvana
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>>63344382
>White supremecy
bad literally why?
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>>63343554
Heavy Metal is the highest selling musical genre in North America.
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>>63345081
Im not paying for it and im doing that for other reasons since i spend 4 days in one city and 3 days in another. Gym is the only way i can keep myself fit and prepared for the 3 days when im in other city doing martial arts. But i can completely agree that paying money for a gym is complete bullshit and i see no pleasure in that.
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>>63344472
>Music is all opinion
This is so wrong that I don't even know where to begin. Do you think matters like technical ability and creativity or influence are "just an opinion"? Please leave the board and go listen to mainstream hip-hop somewhere else
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>>63344519
Nirvana was heavily influenced by The Melvins. You know. That metal band.
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>>63345194
this comment is retarded really

>>63344472
so is this

>>63344519
>Fucking nirvana had more impact then any of the artists you've listed and they never even used full chords.
that's completely false

>>63345176
this is also really retarded


I still want to know what kind of retard pays to go to the gym.

>>63345170
that makes sense
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>>63345240
>and they never even used full chords.
this part I meant, the other part is true.
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Who the fuck listens to metal outside edgy 12 years olds


Also anyone who listen to music without a headphone are fucking assholes and deserves to be terminated
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>>63345240
Kurt Cobain cited The Melvins as one of his greatest musical influences.
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Best hip hop hate thread ever
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>>63345282
everyone knows that your comment is still retarded. it's only something someone with really mediocre brains would say.

hurr melvins were metal and nirvana were melvins fans

what does that do to refute his claim that metal isn't technically interesting or that superior music is more commonly made with less proficiency?

you are a dumb fuck.
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>>63345342
It's a response to:
>Fucking nirvana had more impact then any of the artists you've listed and they never even used full chords.
That artist wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for metal in the first place. I was never arguing that technicality makes music interesting. It's quite often irrelevant in the quality of music.

The "metal all sounds the same and has no substance" type lines are retarded and everyone knows it.
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Because it's not pleasing.

Music has an effect on your body and your mood.

From my experience with music there isn't a single rock song that can put me in a good mood. I mean don't get me wrong there's a lot of metal I like but... they don't really make me jam along.

Take Yeezy for example.on

MBDTF - Devil in a New Dress
TLOP - No More Parties in LA

You can listen to those and they won't send you in a shitty mood even if you hate Kanye. There are a lot of artists that do this with hip-hop and rap.
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>>63345194
>>63345282
>>63345342
Nirvana were metal, the band's songs were a hybrid mix of punk/metal.

Hell, even when the band was recording Nevermind, Kurt said that he wanted all of the guitar tone turned way the fuck down so that it would sound "like Black Sabbath."
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>>63345404
>That artist wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for metal in the first place
You are so retarded. The Beatles influences both those groups too and you could say the same thing about them.

You are a Boniface tard and should be aware of that when you jerk off. Fucking asshole .
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>>63345422
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call Nirvana metal. Endless Nameless is damn heavy though.
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>>63343679
this
retards say rap is somehow "black music" so that means it's cool
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>>63345422
see>>63345443

fucking dumb fucks
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>>63345447
>I think it's a bit of a stretch to call Nirvana metal.
It had all of the distortion of metal with the cheese removed from it. It was barebones rock music.
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>>63345406
We can even go lower

Lil Wayne - Mr Carter.

That's even sociably acceptable. It's pleasing to the ear
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You need to find the middle ground, OP.
You need KoRn.
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>>63345443
You missed the point. It's a bit rich to call anyone anything when your attention span fails one line in.

If all you can think about is me jerking off I may as well stop replying to you.
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because hiphop is chill.

you can chill listening to hiphop.

there's not one metal song that you can use for that.
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>>63345499
no, you missed the point because you are retarded. Saying "nirvana wouldn't exist without metal" is exactly as true as saying nirvana wouldn't exist without the beatles or even that the melvins wouldn't exist without the beatles. These are all true and that's why it's a stupid ass thing to say, because it's a redundant point that adds nothing to the argument about metal and technicality in popular music that was being discussed.
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>>63344299
Please go somewhere like reddit where you won't hear anyone saying bad words that hurt your sensitive feelings.
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>>63345544
>there's not one metal song that you can use for that.

Except you can chill listening to Sunn O))), or Earth, or even that Melvins album Lysol.
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>tfw home gym master race
I can listen to whatever I want while exercising.
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>>63345578
>you can chill to Sunn O)))

https://youtu.be/hIR1KfKXH6s?t=219

kill yourself.

that's not even music that's some death grips tier shit
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>>63345611
fuck off steven
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>>63345557
You're an idiot. The entire point was that saying Nirvana is more influential than x with y technicality and that is why metal sucks doesn't mean anything.

Get your head out of your ass cunt.
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metal's shit and obtrusive.
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The only place where I found people to tolerate metal music was in Japan. I have lived there and often you can hear metal in konbini or even in Shibuya streets. People are more open to anything. Here in Germany it is the same issue that people are open to hip hop and gangster rap but once you play some metal they basically make fun of you. My boss asked me if I really listen to this kind of music when I told him I wanna take some days off to go to a metal festival. He was kind of surprised and seemed like he never met anyone before listen to that alien music. And he 30 or so. But I don't give a shit. Metal doesn't sound very "natural" to new ears. You have to get used to it before you can like it.
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>he never grew out of his metal phaae
Smfh tbqh senpai
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What is it that makes hip hop gay? Is the artists or people who listen to hip hop that are so gay.Probably "artists" because 12 year olds cant bw gay.
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Just play deltron 3030
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because hip hop is for chilling and bumping

metal is for contemplating suicide
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>>63345578
>you can chill listening to Sunn O))), or Earth
No, you really can't if you listen to it properly.
It's far too crushing for that and not comfy at all.

Dubstep on the other side is the same "shade" of music, crushing bassweight, but it's also super comforting, even on a huge club system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9H3i0T1iN4
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>>63343645
>what the fuck is this shit dude?
> airco must be broken or something
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>>63346901
Speaking of earth, you can enter a zone of thoughtlessness while listening to them. In fact its nice to lie down with someone and just listen to them
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>>63345544
>hiphop is chill
>that pic

take the backpack off man
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>>63346901
>>63347345
By Earth I meant Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull, not the earlier stuff. Though both bands are good music to smoke to.
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>>63347529
Why do you have to smoke to enjoy it? Thats a bit depressing
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>>63347553
I haven't actually smoked in years though, but a lot of metal is just good with that.
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To answer without dumb memes or opinions, it's because hip-hop is popular. That's it. If metal was popular, you would see a lot more of it in public.
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>>63347378
>Implying you need to be a backpacker to like Nujabes
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>>63343456
it's because metal sucks and most people don't have enough teen angst left over to feel comfortable hearing someone else's
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>>63345458
rap is black music though. that's objectively true
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>>63347808
I have fun listening to metal. it sounds like you have some growing up to do
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>>63347824
>I have fun listening to metal.

14 year old detected
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>>63343698
thats explaines blm
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>Metal is for children
>I listen to adult music such as Drake
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>>63347824
hey, stop having fun.
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>>63343456
because metal is usually shit
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>>63344433
yup
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generally speaking, hiphop is rhythm based and easier to listen to, especially in a gym situation.

metal is just grating to anyone that isn't into metal.
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>>63344299
>getting upset that someone says nigger on an imageboard
HELLO R*DDIT
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>>63348874
To me, hearing some black guy angrily rapping about "fuckin sum bitch ass nigga" is more grating than Merzbow
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>>63343456
This thread proves /mu/ is dead

When will rapcucks leave?
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>>63348991
rapcucks > metal babies

to be honest, family
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>>63343586
>Living in the mid-west

I'm so sorry.
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>>63349061
'No'
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>>63345148
God created all men equal.
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>>63348985
well you're in the minority.
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>>63343773
Well hey atleast youre honest
Honesty doesnt exist in 2016
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>>63349159
Feels like you are in minority. Because rap has no substance. Probably not the old rappers but new ones are all about fucking bitches and getting money it has nothing real in it. And yes rap has a rythm and beats but it brings it closer to dubstep that shoukd no be considered alto be music. Basically that is the reason why rap is shit
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This is a terrible thread and you should all feel bad.
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>>63343456
Black people are in.

White rejects aren't.
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>>63349151
Then tell me why do so many niggers still live in the jungle and have never begotten anyone remotely close to Bach, Einstein or Buddha?
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Look, I like both genres and everything - but in general if I'm walking down the street with hip hop in my ears, I feel like a really chill, cool fucking dude.

I walk with metal in my ears and I literally have to turn it down when I walk past people, cause it just makes me feel like somewhat of an outcast... who loves MUH RIFFS!!!!

That's life I guess.
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Hip hop is first and foremost a party genre whereas metal tends to be much more abrasive, that coupled with its school shooting fanbase shouldn't make you wonder much at all.
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Cuz 90% of the people feel the muzik niqqa
>cruise in my 83 caddy
>bumpin UGK
>old white guy looks like he is gonna say "nigger music"
>says "that's da jam"
>chunk the duece
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>>63344519
>what is Opeth
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I love metal more than anyone but if I'm throwing a party with hot girls coming I put hip hop on so girls can groove to it and get down, metal is just gonna scare them the fuck away.
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>>63343456
>Why is it okay to publicly listen to rap or hip hop but not metal?
there are no rules as to what you enjoy and express enjoyment in, publically.
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Reminder that there's no black rapper who is equally enlightened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9RDoRW2gA
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>>63350838
make sure to add a random revenge song if you want them to leaf
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>>63345081
You pay to access their training equipment you faggot. You can train by yourself but you can't go as heavy as in a gym without spending tons of money (and wasting a lot of space) to get your own shit
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Most metal isn't catchy to normies because it's riff-driven for the most part. Rhythm is simpler and easier for normies, and as such, hip-hop and more rhythm-based '''''metal''''' is more popular.
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>>63350262
>but new ones are all about fucking bitches and getting money it has nothing real in it.
whenever someone says this i know that he is a full on pleb. grats plebboi
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>>63350910
I didn't watch your video but Hopsin is pretty enlightened
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