>Claims to like music
>Can't play an instrument
>Doesn't know any music theory
Explain yourself.
how about you explain yourself, why you think you cannot make that claim unless you also play music
I make sounds on ableton and they sound nice together. Come on over to the soundcloud thread to hear em
>Claims to like books
>Doesn't write books
This is what you sound like.
I'm a lazy, talentless sack of shit that doesn't deserve to play an instrument
>>63279171
I play the triangle.
>>63279404
pretty much this
It's like saying you can't properly drive a car if you don't know how to rebuild it's engine
>>63279404
No it's more like
>claims to like books
>Doesn't know any language
How can you understand music if you don't know theory?
>>63279404
actually it's more like
>claims to like books
>can't read or write
which as you can see makes perfect sense
>>63279171
you can like it and appreciate it but knowing that just helps you view it differently. Knowing and understanding theory doesn't really make you a better artist though it just helps you see the building blocks or whatever you wanna call it
>>63279748
How can you be such an autist?
>>63279748
you dont have to know an instrument to like a song t b h
>>63279404
Bad analogy. It's more like.
>Claims to like books
>Hasn't passed a 9th grade English class
>>63279846
pretty much this but it still doesn't help you as a writer if you're not creative anyway. That's still a bad analogy too tbqh because the more you read the more you'll understand/be able to write, it just might take more time to figure it all out but those who do are usually better
>>63279810
>>63279826
If you don't know theory then you can't understand music, simple as that.
When you say you "like" a song what you mean is that you like the animalistic responses it triggers in your body but that doesn't mean you understand it on the level of music, which is intellectual.
>>63279757
>>63279846
STFU
>claims to like stories
>can't read or write
who fucking cares?
>>63279902
>>63279902
But nobody is claiming that "understanding" music and liking music are the same thing, so this thread is fucking pointless.
music theory is literally a western man-made construction
music theory is a social construct
>>63279902
If you don't feel the 'animalistic response' to music I feel bad for you, thats my favorite part
Millions of people undrstand music at that level today, and millions more have throughout human history predating 'music theory'. I'm truly sorry if you've over educated yourself to the point you miss out on this simple joy
This argument has just a little logical problem
You have to like music BEFORE starting to play an instrument. Therefore playing an instrument is not necessary to like music.
Why would you play an instrument if you don't like music anyway
T. Instrument player
>>63279902
Except I do understand theory and it's not as big of a deal as everyone on here makes it. Seriously, that's like saying you can't enjoy a painting if you don't know everything about color theory or you can't enjoy a movie because you don't know everything about the production process. It doesn't make it any better, it CAN make you appreciate it differently though.
And stop trying to boost your ego just cus you know something that's not that hard to understand to begin with, you're just making a fool of yourself. There's so much more that goes into a song than music theory, like the lyrics and the entire production process. If you understand literature and you produce music as well then I can see how you can appreciate it more than most people, but even then you cant just say that people can't like something.
Also does anyone really fully understand our life/existence?
That's like saying you can't enjoy your life because you don't "fully understand" it.
>I like the rhythms and the guitar sounds cool, oh and the lyrics really meen alot to me.
>>63280328
The point of life isn't to enjoy it you hedonistic animal
>>63279757
That doesn't mean you can't like picture books.
>>63280384
What is the point of life then?
>>63280378
there is literally nothing wrong with having that opinion you elitist dickwad
I'd much rather hang out with that guy then any of the pretentious music theory nerds ITT
>>63280384
What's the point of doing anything if you don't enjoy it? Lose your fucking ego man, and you using the term "hedonistic animal" just makes you seem like yet another pretentious autist
>>63280406
To post dank memes
Why are theoryfags such bitter gay fruitloops?
What happened to the cool ones, my dudes??
>>63280510
Why aren't you on opiates 24/7 if you claim that pleasure is the highest value?
>>63280510
>What's the point of doing anything if you don't enjoy it?
Why don't you ask the people who work their ass off doing shit they hate just to stay alive you entitled millennial shitskin. You're the one with the ego and no perspective.
>>63280613
Is that the bus where retarded clowns ride?
>>63280577
because opiates don't provide lasting meaningful pleasure you dipshit
>>63280583
people work their asses off because it provides them with pleasure, be it the pleasure of getting to eat that day or a brand new jet ski or being able to afford music theory classes
>>63280583
I work my ass off avery day but that guy has a point
I work to have money to do or buy things i enjoy
>>63279902
what's your idea of understanding anyways? being able to put names on the chords you're hearing? i don't see how that adds a lot to the experience
>animalistic
nvm this is just misguided pseudo-intellectualism or bait, but whatever
>>63280706
No, you buy and do things you enjoy so you can keep working.
>>63280750
Is this you?
>>63279902
I give up
>>63280750
I didn't know they had internet in North Korea
>>63280577
Because that's not really a way to live, it completely destroys who you are. You can enjoy life without drugs and have a positive perspective, even if things are shitty.
>>63280583
There are still necessities in life and it can just be shit sometimes, I'm not saying everything's a happy wonderful fantasy land. And how exactly am I an entitled millennial shitskin? Because I said one fucking thing that contradicts your views on life? Wow man, I'm so hurt that really cuts to the core. Seriously stop getting so pissy about this, just because I see life differently than you do.
Yes people have to work their asses off to get by, yes people have miserable fucking jobs, but they dont always have to be miserable. I've been poor, I've had my whole life get shit on, and if anything that just helped me see things more positively. Open your mind ya dingus
Holy shit this is one of the most autistic threads I've ever seen, it might as well be on r9k
>>63280750
I have no idea how my flat and synths help me with my work okay buddy
>>63280861
>I've been poor, I've had my whole life get shit on, and if anything that just helped me see things more positively
So you adopted hedonism as a way of coping with your shitty life then. That's fine if it works for you just as long as you realize that that it's a philosophical dead end and is not universal.
>>63281091
>anon works hard to better his life
>gets accused of hedonism
how can one person hold so much autism?
People ITT are missing the point. What's cringeworthy about a lot of people on mu is that even though they claim their taste to be the objective truth they have no basis for it. Taste by definition is subjective, but not knowing the theory or the instrument(s) behind the music you claim to be "objectively good" makes you not just a prick, but a completely pretentious one at that.
first time in /mu/ and i already love this place.
>>63281273
Enjoy your stay
Come for the music, stay for the funposting
>>63281091
Nigga what
How I see things isn't much of a coping mechanism, I don't use philosophy as a crutch to try staying happy all the time. I've been pretty depressed my whole life desu, I'm just saying I try seeing the bigger picture and the fact that my life could be way fucking worse at any given moment so I don't see everything as total shit anymore. I just figured that instead of being miserable and nihilistic all the time I should at least try to be happy.
I still think things might just not have any meaning whatsoever but now I see it in a more positive way.
>>63281273
did you not read the sticky?
GTFO
What about people who have their own theory? Like the people who haven't actually studied it but sorta just learned it on their own through experience or just naturally understanding music?
I used to play trombone faggot
>>63281209
>objective truth
>music
yeah
>>63281529
My point was that there is no objective truth when it comes to music and people that have learned music theory and how to play and instrument and are elitistic about music are assholes as well, but their elitism at least has some basis (their knowledge of music) to it, while the people shitposting on /mu/ have none and perceive their opinions as truth for no reason (and with no basis) at all.
>>63279902
fuck off you academic piece of shit. Stick your "theory" inside your asshole.
It's because of academics pieces of shit like yourself, that every musician nowdays are technically great, but they can't trigger any emotion in me. They are all generic people like you, academic piece of shit.
>>63281273
>i am olderfag than somebody else
>mfw
>>63281656
I actually agree with this to some extent, like their knowledge of music gives them more of an excuse to be pretentious about it but its still annoying when other people who understand theory just spew their shit about "muh patrician taste m8 fuck off pleb" when knowing and understanding theory has helped me see music differently but it hasnt helped a whole lot with writing or recording
I think its funny when people get really butthurt though, it's like when you talk shit about anime and weebs just completely lose their shit
>>63279171
>claims to like porn
>has never had sex
explain yourself, op
>>63280170
This guy is right.
>>63280170
Cute, but absolutely false. Plenty of children are taught unwillingly.
Also, fuck, everybody likes music.
You fuckin' academics pieces of shit already incarcerated paiting and sculpture inside fuckin' museums, where the people can't see them. You fuckin' academics transformed classical music into something "intelectual" that isn't "for everybody". When it's exacty the opposite. Music and all art in general must be available for everybody. You fuckin' academics pieces of shits are the force corrupting art. It's you fuckin' academics that validate le corbusier school of thought, and now all architechiture is fuckin' bland, flat, generic. Doesn't matter in which part of the globe you go.
I FUCKIN HATE ACADEMICS, YOU SHOULD ALL BE BURNED WITH A DICK INSIDE YOUR ASSHOLE.DO YOU READ ME ACADEMIC PIECE OF SHIT? DIE! DIE! DIE!
/rant over
Understanding theory and how to play an instrument only lends to appreciating the music more.
Doesn't mean people who dont know an instrument or theory cant enjoy music.
>>63279171
>>63279902
That's so fucking fedora tipping autistic i don't even know where to start, i hope this is bait
>>63282521
I agree with the whole art being free and not needing to be pretentious about it all but damn dude calm yo ass down
>>63282838
yessir thankyasir
