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>General folder. Renaissance up to 20th century/modern classical
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
>General folder #2. Mostly Romantic up to 20th century/modern, but also includes Bach and Mozart subfolders
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
>General folder #3. Mostly 20th century/modern with other assorted bits and pieces
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
>Debussy Folder: Recordings of Debussy's most important/famous works
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
>Opera folder: Construction in progress. Features recorded productions of various operas
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
>Renaissance Folder: Paired with a chart.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
>Calcium's Compilation folder: 20 albums from baroque up to modern. Will be updated soon. Paired with a chart.
https://mega.co.nz/#!1V8TSDwL!e5er4zSSyB3kPArCUM02-1KXzlyOkfgfJl6XE9w5orY
>CLT's history of the western canon: Comprehensive run-through of western classical music from the monks up to the present day. Paired with a chart
https://mega.co.nz/#!CkEQlBbY!k33vuAiD6wJT4C3jAmU8HZ2k_NDz2nF0Jy6qiBdzkwU
>Crudblud stuff
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
>OP starts thread with pic of Steve Plebich
Does this mean we're allowed to like him now?
https://youtu.be/E7kH3-fiNH4
Can anyone point me in the direction of something similar to this? I'm looking for melodic, but sparse.
How's Harnoncourt's Bruckner 9?
>>63240997
it's ok
worth grabbing for the lecture on the finale, which is interesting.
Thoughts on Lutoslawski?
>>63240925
Grisey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgLU0gjPtI
>>63240874
nope, no liking composers allowed.
>>63241248
good composer
>>63240997
Is there really any bruckner that's good...?
The only ones I can really appreciate are 4 and 7 personally. I love the giant orchestral flourishes in 8 and 9 and most the others, but they're just too little for too long.
>>63241290
How can you make these poor musicians sit down and play this shit
>>63241744
EIC specializes in that kind of repertoire...
>>63241290
Nice! Thanks! Any other suggestions appreciated as well!
>1870
>Not listening to Lyric Pieces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWM4s128_2Y
What does /classical/ think of the greatest American composer?
>echo "It's `date +%Y`"
>listening to womeme singers
I seriously hope you kuffars don't do this.
>>63242243
That's not Carter.
>>63242044
>not posting Berceuse or Notturno
/classical/ should do a blindfold thread like what /jazz/ does.
>>63242749
how does than work anonsama?
Have you appreciated Mozart yet today?
bump for trump
>>63244468
Did they move forward?
>>63242243
Aaron Copland will always hold that title.
>>63241981
Tristan Murail, Haas, Rautavaara, maybe Saariaho
>>63243100
somebody makes a playlist of mystery tracks. Then everybody listens to the tracks and critiques the performance and tries to guess what/who it might be.
>>63244829
That sounds fun
>>63244829
seems kind of dumb because recordings are typically only subtly different. Unlike Jazz, the notes meter and other aspects must remain the same. Maybe I could identify Karajan by his loud as fuck horns but that's about it
>>63241248
I really enjoyed his string quartet, as well as his duos.
>>63244941
Do you think it would work if we put together a playlist of relatively obscure pieces of the same period but different composers and then tried to identify the composer and other details? :D
>>63244941
>Karajan
>loud horn
Clearly, you haven't heard his beautiful Madame Butterfly recording.
>>63244941
>seems kind of dumb because recordings are typically only subtly different.
don't really agree. though it depends on the repertoire and the time frame of the recordings.
i really doubt anyone familiar with the performers would have any trouble discerning a Mengelberg performance from a Scherchen one.
and personally i would probably be quicker to recognize a Karajan recording based on the shitty DG engineering :^)
>>63244993
That might be more of an idea. Or we could just do piano puzzlers
>>63245106
>implying I give a shit about pucinni
He ruined the Beethoven symphonies and yet they are the most famous recordings so fuck him
>>63244468
That pic heavily underrates Mozzart.
Mozart is the most overrated composer of all time.
Post your favourite underrated Mozart works:
Divertimento for String Trio for me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npQJP_nF7NI
>>63246512
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQMbo-WzqDc
The better Jupiter finale :^)
>>63245343
I think his first DG cycle is OK for the most part...
>>63246700
50s/early 60s recordings made in Japan > '77 live set in Japan > Philharmonia recordings in 50s > '63 set (DG) > shit > '77 set (DG)
how do i into bach? where to start
>>63247204
in the back.
>>63247204
Start with the cantatas. Do it chronologically, the early ones, then the Weimar ones, the Leipzig cycles 1, 2 and 3. You can listen to the st John Passion during cycle 1, St Matthew Passion during cycle 3, and Christmas Oratorio and the B minor mass after you've finished all that.
>>63247204
My favorite are the Brandenburg concertos
What the fuck is this supposed to be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmCmrZfybPQ
>>63247861
You can see her panties at around 6:40
>>63247861
i am strangely aroused
is she Jeanette from Vampire the Masquerade?
>>63247861
This is memeigan isn't it.
I hate that cunt
>>63248047
She's pretty hot for her age
>>63248081
She's a literal meme soprano
>How can I ensure more people pay attention to me? I know, I'll take up conducting so I can conduct when I'm not singing so I'm always the centre of attention.
She's a good singer, she should stick to that. Or take up conducting properly. Combining the two just smacks of incredible narcissism
#
>>63244993
That would be interesting actually, I'd totally be down for that.
Try to name:
>Format (i.e. symphony, quartet, tone poem, etc)
>Key
>Time period
>Composer
>Style/form (i.e. scherzo, mazzurka, etc)
>Nation?
That's all the most relevant things I can think of. But getting all of those would be really fucking hard.
>>63246416
Idk senpai. Seeing as he's pretty much guaranteed to be within the top three I don't see how "overrated" he can be.
You think Bach and Beethoven are better?
>>63249758
Yes.
Yo classical
Is there any merit to Olafur Arnalds / Nils Frahm?
I think there is, as simplistic as it can be at times.
>>63249661
I think the idea is also to critique the piece and have fun guessing. Of course it's very difficult to guess everything right but check out how they do it in the jazz blindfold threads.
>>63250544
That's understandable, but its just an additional set of info.
The main thing I like is simply to guess the composer, it makes you have a much finer ear for the stylistic subtleties of each.
For instance, if you didn't have the title could you have guessed that this was Prokofiev? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eaqKVi_0Y0
I think many people know about his neo-classicalism, and there are certainly a few details -especially towards the end- that can give it away. But when I hear it after a long time on the radio or online it can be a curve ball.
I used to do this all the time with my buddies listening to a classical radio station. Its a lot of fun actually.
>>63246416
f u r t h e r p r o o f
>>63240874
>not liking reich
>>63245343
>He ruined the Beethoven symphonies
lol! the karajan detractors are getting more and more desperate.
▐
I hate minimalism with every bone in my body. I absolutely cannot stand this cheesy, boring, degenerate filth, and the fact that it's recognized as the most important thing in classical in the last generation makes me sick.
>>63253522
Actually spectralism is the most important of that generation, and new complexity the most important of the following
>>63253804
>Grisey is dead
>Reich and Glass are alive
can anyone recommend some folk-ish classical that kind of sounds like the elder scrolls soundtrack?
>>63253522
>the fact that it's recognized as the most important thing in classical in the last generation
No one has ever said that though. It was always a downtown NY group of stoners, a subset of the real music being written.
>>63254091
I recommend the work of Jeremy Soule.
>>63253804
Elaborate.
>>63247204
Goldenberg Variations - Glenn Gould.
>>63254087
Fortunately, as far as minimalism is concerned, we still have Adams.
>>63256110
*Goldberg Variations
>>63257274
Aw fuck. Thanks. It auto corrected to that. It is a good starting place for Bach though.
I find Beethoven dull and I don't know if that's because
-overplayed
-I'm being an edgy contrarian hipster
-it is actually dull
>>63257410
You're going to get antiformalist poster going off on one, please don't encourage him
>>63257410
it´s because beethoven can´t into melody. his thematic material simply isn´t very interesting.
>>63257410
You can only make that statement if you fully appreciate Mozart
>>63257498
I fully appreciate your mum
>>63257492
He blew up the other day though and said he was never coming back. We can only hope he meant it.
>>63257410
He's the worst of the big 3
Fuck
>>63257566
actual big three
j.s.bach, w.a.mozart, j.brahms
>>63257606
Where does Bartok fit in
Beethoven is clearly the most underrated composer.
>>63257629
With Enesco and Janacek.
>>63257644
Further proof that Mozart is underrated.
>>63257629
In the trash
>>63257685
Further proof Bartok is underrated
>>63257678
Further proof that Beethoven is underrated.
>>63257662
Further proof Kodály is underrated
>>63257712
He can hang out with them too
>>63257629
Bartok sounds like a D&D character desu
You know, Bach is way more underrated than Mozart, if you think about it, and I'm sure every reply to this post is just going to be further proof of that fact.
Franck's Symphony makes me feel dirty
I feel like a slut when listening to it
>>63257755
Bach's wikipedia article is longer than Mozarts
>>63257755
Quite the opposite IMO. Mozart's operatic repertoire is slightly underrated. Almost everyone is familiar with his sonatas.
>>63257799
>>63257800
Mozart has way more popularly known tunes than Bach, even though Bach composed a ton more music.
>>63257800
Only Cosi fan tutte and Idomeneo are underrated though, everyone and their mother knows Zauber, Giovanni, and Nozze
>>63257844
>Nozze
please, just call it figaro for short. nobody calls it nozze.
>>63257844
Die entfuhrung is underrated too
>>63257915
Then people will think you're talking about The Barber of Seville
>>63257932
no.
>>63257915
Nozze sounds like Nozzle which is comparable to my dick when listening to that opera
>>63257946
Yes they will, because of Bugs Bunny
Who're good womeme composers?
>>63257824
Bach has the Toccata and Fugue in D minor, Air on the G String and Cello Suite No. 1, Prelude. One of these is just an arrangement of one of his works by a later musician, and another several scholars don't even think is his. Mozart, however, has Requiem, Lacrimosa; Piano Concerto No. 21, II. Andante; Eine Kleine Nachtmusik; Symphony No. 40; The Marriage of Figaro, Overture; Piano Sonata No. 11, III. Alla Turca - Allegreto; Piano Sonata No. 16; and The Magic Flute, "Der Hölle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen". All of these are entirely Mozart's work (except possibly Lacrimosa?), and absolutely anyone you showed them to would be able to recognize them. The only other composers who have about as many popularly famous works as Mozart are Beethoven, Chopin and Tchaikovsky. Now tell me whether Bach or Mozart is more underrated.
Though I will say that Haydn gets it worse than either of them: the only thing he's famous for is the German national anthem.
>>63247358
-1685/10
>>63247204
Sonatas and Partitas, cello suites, violin concerti, brandenburg concerti
>>63258897
>Though I will say that Haydn gets it worse than either of them: the only thing he's famous for is the German national anthem.
good. we must keep something for the true patricians.
>>63258897
Also for Bach you've got:
Jesu bleibet meine freunde BWV 147
Bourrée from Lute Suite in E Minor BWV 996
C major prelude from WTC book 1
Minuet in G Major BWV Anh. 114 (yeah not by Bach but everyone attributes it to him)
Badinerie from Orchestral Suite no. 2 BWV 1067 (since it was an original nokia ringtone)
Maybe Goldberg Variations from Silence of the Lambs, but that's more of a stretch.
>>63259194
I don't think any of those are quite as recognizable as what I listed, but I'm mainly judging that based on how many views each one has on YouTube
Anyone have that image with a list of recommended performers? Forgot to save it and it'd make finding shit on cluttered whatcd pages a lot easier.
>>63258846
There are none.
>mfw I thought that Bartok was a grill when I was a kid because the name "Bela" is obviously a girl's name.
>>63259588
Too hard to make a list of. Ask for specific recommendations instead.
>>63259757
it was just a list of decent string quartets, some orchestras, etc. Yeah something like that is incomplete and not perfect but it was alright. I can find stuff on my own fine but I don't always feel like ctrl+fing through artist pages or listening and looking for the best recordings.
>>63259829
You might be talking about CLTs list. Not the greatet picks but not a bad start if you're fairly new to classical. Search for it in the archives.
>>63259892
It wasn't CLT's I don't think, I'm not new to classical either just I only started a digital library recently. I think it was called "meme performers" or something, not sure, saw it a long time ago.
![home-photo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QCIKR82.jpg "home-photo[1].jpg")
>>63258846
afaik not a meme but I like Higdon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMRi3UH_yOA&list=PLUSRfoOcUe4aKnctkA5jkoGh_kUHpipdN&ab_channel=AnneAkikoMeyers-Topic
>>63258846
Beamish is my favourite. Weir's composed a few ok things too
>>63258846
boulanger is decent
>>63258846
crawford seeger
What is Haydn's best symphony?
>no new retards recommendations link
shit general
Please explain why the fuck any of this matters! I'm talking about composers being overrated and such. It doesen't matter if you enjoy it. Music is not science, there are no objective set of standards to it, just arbitrary subjective opinions grounded on nothing more than level of exposure, life experiences and other equally random and arbitrary stuff.
So why? Why does it matter?
Faggots.
>>63263003
>Please explain
>Faggots
>>63263180
Go ahead mock me, laugh!
- Selleri
>>63263003
fptmiu
>>63256110
>Fortunately
>we still have Adams
???
>>63257799
Thats because there's more to discuss. More substance in his life and music.
>>63257800
Mozart opera is some of the most highly rated and widely loved though. There are "Mozart opera" papers you can take at university. But there aren't any papers for other opera composers.
>>63258846
Lera Auerbach
>>63261547
104
>>63263003
>Music is not science
tell that to Fux or Schoenberg or Bach
>>63263003
>Music is not science
It actually is. Also the overrated/ underrated is just shiteposting because of a meme.
>>63263003
Music is both objective and subjective.
Technically speaking there is no reason that dissonance should be any more preferable to consonance, but its biologically hardwired to be associated with distress and -when not arranged correctly- can be extremely grating.
But that said, there are ways of measuring greatness. The main one would be artistic intention. If someone succeeds perfectly in making a elliciting a particular type of sound then perhaps they're the most successful, or at least more than someone that manages to make a half-decent version of a bland neo-classical piece.
The ability to elaborate on form, to have layers of orchestration, to creatively blend timbre, and to balance action, and to make music into metaphor is a great thing.
>>63265209
>Technically speaking there is no reason that dissonance should be any more preferable to consonance
Yes there is: The harmonic series. The naturally occurring overtone series. Its mostly consonant intervals. octave, fifth, major 3rd, minor 3rd, etc.
>>63263003
mozzart underated
"music is subjective"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_neuroscience_of_music
>>63265414
That's what I mean. Having overtones is preferable to dissonance because it "feels" right. It "feels" right because it mathematically overlaps in terms of amplitude (?).
But there's no "rightness" or "wrongness" inherently to dissonance. Its simply what our brains are hardwired to feel that way. At least to my knowledge.
>>63266130
How you enjoy it is subjective but the art of the craft is objective.
>>63257970
We don't need to adapt to stupid people
>>63240771
I hate that guy. This is what I call engineering people to like garbage man. Just cause it's "different". This guy should never be compared to the old masters of classical music ever. And if his shit qualifies in the classical music league then so does Frank Zappa. And in that case, Frank Zappa would blow this fucker out of the water. Steve Reich? More like he writes loops in software and notates in afterwards.
>>63268069
I dislike him too. He's the music version of the meaningless, modern art paintings.
>>63264888
>poly stealth Mozart underrating
![a18[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/x1b1JAE.jpg "a18[1].jpg")
>tfw you're a pleb who only listen to "melodic" pieces
>>63268069
The idea of using phasing was pretty unheard of in classical music so far though. Reich may stick to traditional harmony, but his rhythmic approach is actually excellent, if you know what to listen for.
>>63270284
>Implying you dont love Bach more than Mozart
This pic >>63244468 is your life without art of fugue
>>63270557
>traditional harmony is mindlessly stacking 4th interval structures on top of eachother.
>>63270890
technically using a 4th is using traditional harmony. Not that thats all reich does (sometimes he doesn't even use notes, and sometimes he even uses a chord progressions!)
At least its not microtonal or atonal anon.
This for example, is much more than just a 4th:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5lgAUHVFC4
If Mozart had lived to be 70 how far would he have advanced music? Would he even have countenanced modal composing a la impressionism? Would he have tried writing atonally at any point? Would he have just continued to refine the classical milieu with the odd novelty or intellectual curiosity thrown in? Would he have ventured even as far as Beethoven?
>>63270936
>Would he have ventured even as far as Beethoven?
lolno
>>63266154
yeah but its art so its supposed to be appealing to human brains
>>63270936
>Atonality
I don't think he would've touched it.
>>63271036
some human brains enjoy dissonance and cluster chords
>>63271097
Poly is an AYY LMAO. Common mistake
>>63271114
That explains a lot actually.
>>63250419
They are decent musiciants that are pointed in the right direction.
Nothing more, just decent.
>>63271114
do you think him and stockhausen hang out?
>>63271132
I was kind of hoping that Stockhausen was dead
>Hurrr all aesthetic experiences have to be "pleasant"
- this thread
>>63271817
this. you dont listen to stimmung for pleasure. You subject yourself to it.
>>63246512
Thanks, that divertimento is very nice.
I'm rather fond of his 39th Symphony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZpptZuBOLQ
meme
_
>>63273367
>>63273370
holy shit
What are you guys' thoughts on Erik Satie?
>>63273666
memeshit
>>63273666
Pretty exclusively relegated for studying music. Very pleasant minimalism though.
>>63250419
I love Arnald's Chopin Project
I wish ott's raindrop was a little more subtle but she's good
God damn I'm loving this. This may actually be one of my favorite all time Mozart pieces next to the requiem atm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCUPyrk4Eg
Anyone have a definitive list of greatest choral pieces? I liked Vivaldi's gloria and Bach's magnificant, what else is there? Besides Beethoven's Solemnis
>>63274828
Bach's cantatas
Handel's oratorios/anthems
What's the last piece you've been listening to on repeat?
>>63275563
Tavener's God With Us I think
>>63275563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZlQCQFg800
>>63275563
Schnittke's Symphony No. 1.
>>63275616
>enjoying that hogwash
Nagasaki and the Requiem are the true Schnittke GOATS
>>63275675
Okay, I'll go listen to them. Thanks!
>>63275563
Arvo Part Frates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJxV589a78A
Based Estonian religious man.
>>63265209
"[...] is a great thing".
According to the aribitrary sets of standards you use.
>>63276366
My standards are pretty reasonable.
Excellence is better than mediocrity. Someone that achieves something that few can do is better than someone who achieves something that many can do.
A person who can arrange every component of classical composition in a perfectly balanced, complex, expressive, and intended way is a person who is infinitely more talented -and thus more respectable- than someone who harmonizes consonant tones and puts on a paul stretch and echo in an electronic program.
>>63258846
Galina Ustvolskaya
>>63275563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucJYe3fxnLA
I need more like this badly.
>>63274828
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIas7X42tcA
>>63277690
>Domenico Scarlatti
>Scott Ross
You have taste. Here's a nice collection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtlhC7wWICw
>>63279093
I meant I need more composers, not more Scarlatti's pieces.
>>63279204
Try Seixas
>>63279220
Couperin, Sweelinck, Froberger.
I'm particularly fond of these Couperin pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHeMYixSulo
wertyuiop
Can I have something similar to Mozart/Beethoven? I just need something normal to listen to.
>>63279411
Rameau, Handel, Purcell harpsichord works along with what >>63279411 said
>>63279411
>>63280243
Frescobaldi too
>>63280235
Have you tried Haydn?
https://youtu.be/_pUYrr2gRc8
he was a contemporary of Mozart and Beethoven was supposedly highly influenced by him, (although both of these composers were also somewhat inspired by Bach as well. additionally Bach's children CPE and JC Bach were contemporaries of Mozart and some influence on Mozart.
If you'd rather have a more Romantic music then you should probably move onto Brahms, Mendelssohn and Saint Saens, whom I think were good examples of Composers on the next step after Beethoven's legacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RdH4jrelA
>>63240771
Any good recs on sources for sheet music?
>>63274828
Also Haydn's masses for something like Mozart
>>63281184
If it's not on imslp or cpdl, you're probably not going to find it for free
>>63280235
Bump
>>63281184
soulseek
Where do I start with Zelenka? Why is he even more underrated than Mozart?
>>63282696
My god this is a bad cover
>>63282796
looks sooper legit
>>63284009
....
>>63274828
Verdi and Brahms requiem.
>>63275563
Tchaikovsky's Symphony no 1. mvmt 2
What are your favorite recordings of Wagner's Ring Cycle? I've heard a few; but want recs for what else is out there.
>>63286761
Keilberth, Karajan, Bohm, Janowski
>>63286761
>Recordings
you're doing it wrong. You want to go to a production. live singers, live orchestra, all in a single acoustic space that you also inhabit. Its the way to experience opera, and in fact, all classical music in general.
Recordings just can't capture the experience of being in the same acoustic space as a performer or ensemble.
>>63287068
>modern Wagner performances
>>63286761
people literally ask this every thread. if i have to see that ugly kraut fucks face one more time im gonna bash his smug fucking face into tonality
>>63287068
Fuck off poly
>>63287188
Calm down assburgers
>>63286761
see
>>63286839
will add Furtwangler (50), Moralt, Haenchen (really mediocre singing overall, but worth hearing for the new edition used and the excellent conducting), and Neuhold.
>>63287177
>Not attending live performances
you're doing classical wrong buddy
>>63287195
But that's true.
The only exceptions are badly orchestrated or strained instrumental pieces like Shostakovich's violin concerto.
>>63288373
Singing has gone down drastically in recent years, especially for Wagner.
Old memes are far better than live performances at this point.
>>63282696
o I am laffin
>>63288373
to be fair with Wagner and a lot of opera in general, the quality of singers have taken more than just a dip in the past 80 years. i can't speak for every performer obviously, but pretty much all the recent audio broadcasts and televised broadcasts I've seen have had terrible to mediocre singing, with poor diction, ridiculous wobble (not like they hit the initial notes right anyway), and poor acting.
i am sure it isn't like this in every bit of operatic repetoire, but for Wagner (who has some super-human demands of his singers) it almost holds true all the time with a few exceptions.
actually, that was why i was so surprised that the Neuhold recording i listened to lately was so good, the singing is actually for the most part pretty respectable; minimal vibrato, perfect timing on all of their entrances, relatively good diction all around. the acting fell a bit short more than a few times, but there were some moments where it did just the opposite. what's more interesting is that basically all the singers on that recording are virtual unknowns. i imagine they're mostly entirely provincial singers (i couldn't even find a lot of them on google).
>>63288609
kek
>>63288609
Good meme. Try this one.
>>63287188
>people ask this every thread
People haven't asked this question in a few months. Maybe you should try harder spamming Scriabin, Poly.
>>63286839
>>63287844
>Ctrl+ f
>no Claudio Abbado
>>63290415
anti-formalist autist is the one who constantly spams Scriabin though
>>63290431
in what universe did Abbado conduct and record Wagner's ring
>>63282696
>shitty cover for a shitty composer
Pottery desu senpai
>>63290506
Fuck. I mistook the Ring cycle for Lohengrin.
>>63290415
im not poly senpai. dont compare me to that detestable memer
>>63290506
i dont even dislike wagner. i just cant stand every thread becoming a discussion about different performances of his pieces
also scriabin isn't formalist you fucking idiot
>>63290506
That's kind of ironic considering Scriabin was a pretty big formalist. Even his latest compositions overadhered to the sonata form.
Threadly reminder that you will never have a E. Kleiber ring cycle in decent quality.
>>63290681
meant to say scriabin is formalist. most of his well known pieces are contrived to the traditional sonata form.
>>63290681
>>63290700
yeah, i know. but i'm pretty sure it's the anti-formalist autist who posts him a lot.
he got in an argument with one of the people here about formalism in Beethoven and brought up Scriabin at some point, after which the other anon used that to point out some hypocrisy, saying; "Isn't Scriabin very formalist himself?" and from there on he white-knighted Scriabin really hard in his usual ranting style.
i could be wrong though and just getting posters confused.
>>63290681
I don't really see Wagner come up that often. We talk about Mozart way more than him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj-zpQ9v8Z8
>mfw
>>63290778
well that wasn't me because i wouldn't bother talking about beethoven, considering i know nothing about his music aside from his popular meme pieces. i do like scriabin a lot though
>>63290883
i'm definitely thinking of someone else then. they have a really recognizable manchild-esque way of writing. i'm pretty sure it's the same person who freaked out a few threads ago during that Chopin argument and supposedly left the threads thereafter.
>i do like scriabin a lot though
yeah, so do i. one of my favorites.
>>63290883
If you haven't listened to all of Bethoven's piano sonatas and string quartets you shouldn't even post here cunt.
>>63290949
yeah i know who you mean now
>>63290971
his music never really did it for me. too romantic. perhaps ill give it a try again. what recordings should i listen to?
>>63274183
>Memeshit
Really? Why?
>>63290949
I think that guy was probably just a troll. They spammed fedora images in the thread a few times but were told to fuck off. They had the same writing style.
>>63290949
>chopin argument
what was that about I missed that one
>>63291127
basically just him getting schooled on performance styles in Chopin. you can find it in the archives if you're really that interested.
Pleb question, composers similar to Satie?
Stockhausen must be the smuggest
>>63291359
Debussy, Ravel, the list goes on...
>>63291383
>Debussy
>Ravel
>similar to Satie
Not even
>>63291359
Satie fag here, I wanna know too.
>>63291359
Peter Brötzmann
>>63275616
>Schnittke
>>63253522
>>63253804
What is it with you pretentious faggots always hating on minimalism.
It's a journalistic shorthand for god's sake. Kill yourselves as the term doesn't describe anybody except Riley.
>>63293353
The memes, Jack
>>63291359
Chabrier
>>63293353
>minimalism
>doesn't describe Reich
Uh what?
>>63293353
It's more pretentious to like extremely complex stuff. Both sides have good stuff to offer IMO.
>>63291359
Satie is kind of unique, but you could try Maneul de Falla:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJRI2C2I3M0
or Delius:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0DtLlEqKk
or Respighi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmMyAOohQ1k
Can anyone recommend me some lesser-known choral works, contemporary or otherwise?
inb4 the chart
>>63294548
bach - mass in b minor
>>63294600
Thanks. Do you happen to have a download link?
>>63294701
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhHbeycso61X0Hy4dGHFaXIOLKlggHdku
>>63240771
any reccs for serene piano like chopin?
My cat is gone
please send me requiems
