Who's the Miles Davis of our generation?
kendrick
Yeezy
Miles Davis
Lamar
>>62976388
That can't be possible since he died a long time ago
Kamasi Washington
jk xD
>>62976379
>>62976383
>>62976396
But they don't even do Jazz
>>62976417
fuck off racist
>>62976409
He still has a legacy, so Miles Davis.
>>62976417
this
Miles Davis
>>62976423
>>62976437
What the fuck are you people talking about, have Lamar or Kanye ever wrote a fucking jazz album/single/ep that i don't know about?
>>62976479
TPAB????? seriously go back to /pol/
>>62976516
TPAB has sampled jazz instrumentals which kendrick didn't even write, fuck right off
>>62976479
>>62976541
please organise your lynchings in some other thread I don't want to see this vitriol
>>62976573
>>62976516
Ahh, i almost bit the bait, nice going guys
>>62976541
the album had collabs by several known jazz artists and is considered by most conscious-jazz-rap. fuck off stormweenie
>>62976479
jazz has evolved. hip hop is the new jazz. black expression, boundary pushing beats are truly exploring where no musician has gone before currently
>>62976603
>conscious-jazz-rap
are you for real
>>62976603
You're right about the jazz artists, sorry, but still, the jazz instrumentals in TPAB don't hold a candle to anything Miles Davis did.
>>62976621
C'mon man i already caught you, stop with this shit.
>when the thread already devolved into a kendrick meme thread
>>62976650
why would i not be
>>62976676
>You're right about the jazz artists
of course i am
>>62976696
This, who the fuck cares about Lamar
>>62976717
anyone who really appreciates jazz without pretense
Back on topic: It has to be Taylor Swift
>>62976717
cultured people
>>62976742
>anyone who really appreciates jazz without pretense
kendrick is jazz though you fucking idiot
>>62976808
yeah I know just jazzfags try to separate him sometimes
>>62976925
>employs jazz artists to play on his album
>doesn't actually play any of the jazz parts
>raps
FO REEL GUIZE HE A JAZZER
>>62976417 >>62976396 valid opinion.
For the retarded children who think they know what jazz is.
A large part of jazz is improvisation. The music playing is largely improvised, the lyrics (what the rappers have to worry about) are pretty fixed and stay fixed minus editing lines for tv friendly performances. That's rap. Rap came out of the jazz tradition, but it is not jazz. It's literally rhythm and poetry.
>>62977917
How do you think rappers come up with their bars lol
>>62977940
Retard alert
>bars
>>62978100
No steelo over here
>>62977856
this guy knows.
>>62978192
FlyLo's only bad album
>>62976417
but if you're looking for the Miles Davis of contemporary jazz, you're going to be very disappointed. No one is moving the genre along like he did, and while there maybe are virtuosos who can play like him they aren't at all doing anything like he did
>>62978192
>>62977856
Good shit.
A really interesting parallel between them is how they responded to the incredible mass of imitators which followed in the wake of their success.
>When everyone was doing the Modal/Hard Bop stuff after the early 60's, Davis releases what is IMHO the best fusion album to date, Bitches Brew, among other fruitful experimentations (On the Corner, even In a Silent Way to some extent).
>When the LA Beat Scene/Soulection stuff reached a fever pitch, he pulls out You're Dead, produces 2015's AOTY (TPAB), and starts rapping over his own beats.
Now that I think about it, Madlib would be last generation's Miles Davis, huh.
there probably won't be another Miles for a long time
the man changed the course of music at least 3 times more than the average human being
>>62978202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXD0vv-ds8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4vLEBxIo4
Opinion discarded and sent to the compactor
>>62976370
Who was Miles of his generation? No one, which is why if anyone is "x of this generation" he's probably not that interesting.
Guys who are first of their generation? I'd say Kanye, Flying Lotus, and BadBadNotGood
>>62978426
so zero times?.. I feel like most people never change the course of music.
>>62978483
>BadBadNotGood
Dude, unless you're in BadBadNotGood, there is absolutely no reason to say that they're the first of their generation in any way. They're ok. They're fun. But like, hold the fuck up now.
>>62978483
>badbadnotgood
>shit Chris Dave has been doing since the 90s
RETARD ALERT
>>62978528
I think BadBadNotGood is unique
I know of so many bands who have tried the whole hip-hop/jazz fusion thing and it not work, they're the only band I've heard who do it legitimately well enough to attract fans from both genres
Jazz guys don't listen to The Roots
Hip Hop guys don't listen to Robert Glasper
>>62978202
Wouldn't call it a bad album. Too invested in concept over content though.
>>62978653
>hip hop guys don't listen to robert glasper
you do have a good point, i just wanted to point this out.
>>62978687
There are a ton of jazz players on that album. One of the few people that isn't a jazzer is the guy yelling into the mic
>>62978687
I'm sure the producers of TPAB listen to him but I don't think many hip-hop listeners are too into Robert Glasper
I guess it's likely that a new FlyLo album comes out this year
Wonder what's gonna be this time
>>62978773
Well of course they do, all those niggas have been working together for decades. Glasper, Pete Rock, Chris Dave, Terrace Martin Derrick hodge, etc etc
>>62978488
that's exactly my point
most musicians get lucky to even do it once
>>62978653
>Jazz guys don't listen to The Roots
>Hip Hop guys don't listen to Robert Glasper
both of these apply to me because both make a better fusion than BBNG
>>62978842
But if he changed it 3 times more the the average person then he never changed it dude. 0*3=0
what is your point, I'm so confused.
>>62979056
times -> instances
lmao for real i can see why you're misreading that sentence tho
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