ITT: artists that combined pop with experimental with great results
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Swans
>>61835971
this this this
paging marina
>>61835932
Agree, the slight noise use in many songs from actor and in northern lights is perfect. Grot could perfectly be a Swans song.
Shame there are only waifufags and trolls here in 4chan
Snoop Dogg was the first rapper to use dog barks in the background, and hes the first rapper of all time to switch from animals from dog to lion.
>>61835932
St. Vincent really has influences from many genres, no wave, noise, glitch and she does it in a great way
Also top 5 from 2015 pic related
>>61835971
That, but also related to music.
>>61836016
Totally. All her albums are eclectic and brilliant.
>>61835932
Extremely shit results actually
>>61835986
She also collaborated with Swans on their latest album, To Be Kind.
>St. Vincent – background vocals on "Nathalie Neal", "Bring the Sun", "Screen Shot", and "Kirsten Supine"
Grimes. Great, great results.
>>61836087
b8 or h8
>>61835985
rina combines pop with experimental right
and the results are certainly great
>>61836131
No b8, there's nothing experimental about her and she's literally one of the blandest art pop acts of the last 15 years.
>>61835932
>he thinks 'experimental' is a sound
>>61836146
Then h8.
>she's literally one of the blandest art pop acts of the last 15 years
lfmao. This is the most absurd criticism I've heard about her.
as far as females go
Bjork
Yoko Ono
Laurie Anderson
Nico
And then for men, you could even argue The Beatles are experimental. I mean, pretty much all of /mu core fits
Radiohead
Ariel Pink
Sparks
Sufjan
John Zorn
Scott Walker
>>61836151
Pop = accessible, catchy, easy to like.
Experimental = unusual, unexpected, innovative.
Listen to Surgeon for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGIbR5jdA58 You will recognize both of these characteristics.
>>61836160
Fucking boring outdated "noisy" guitar which sounds like the fakest attempt at a raw tone I've ever heard, using Tame Impala tier (except they can actually use them) synths where they just don't fit. Awful lyrics, some of the worst vocal performances I've ever heard from a female
>"run rabbit run, don't run little rabbit run"
Fuck off
>>61836200
this song is so bad lmao
>>61836241
Get some taste. If you think that "noisy" guitar is outdated or fake, you really don't know what are you talking about. Also everything else from your post is the definiton of cringe.
>>61836279
This too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9prpAv6kvo
>>61836200
Not terrible, but it doesn't make me want to listen to more of her.
>>61836160
Can you please leave this board?
>>61836200
Annie isn't a flop but she's not the experimental queen you're building her up to be here.
Her sound is unique and her style is already recognizable. She perfects the kind of music she's working with. That's already enough.
She borders experimentation in some songs but that's just natural for someone who's studied music like her
Surgeon is just pop
>>61836301
That song is quite unusual. Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxF0KhBR84
>>61836281
St. Vincent is the definition of cringe. Fucking fraud-flake Annie Clark feigning instrospection for narcissism.
>>61836200
>Experimental = unusual, unexpected, innovative.
This is what happens when marketers and PR people control the music industry.
>>61836311
You leave and don't forget to take your shitty taste with you.
>>61836332
Conspiracy much? Offer a better definition then.
>>61836320
I wish she's gone further with the smashing piano sounds in this song
>>61836200
That's not what either of those words mean
>>61836334
I'm not even that anon you're arguing with, and I actually love St Vincent, but seriously you're the kind of anon who make this board terrible.
>>61836313
T b h. Op said artists who mix pop and experimental, not just that they are only experimental. Of course most of her songs are just chamber pop and art rock, but others like your lips are red, black rainbow or grot are closer to experimental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIL6dN1GR8Y&app=desktop
David Bowie
>>61836200
> mfw some guys on /mu/ think this is experimental
Jesus Christ now I understand why you like trash like Vietcong
>>61836381
One of the best examples. Someone who went out of their way, and has forsaken pop songs to delve into other ideas. Much like Scott Walker and Jim O Rourke
>>61836313
>Surgeon is just pop
Quirky pop. I've never heard a song like this on the radio. Especially the last part is experimental enough.
>>61836372
How come? You didn't see his comment yet?
>>61835932
she can combine her ass with my face for great results
>>61836398
Pop AND experimental, dummy
>>61836477
it's way more intricate and worked on than your regular Lady Gaga or Beyonce song.
But it's pop as much as David Bowie is pop.
I guess you're right, the last guitar solo is pretty dissonant
St. Vincent, David Bowie & Bjork definitely are good examples. More artists like them?
who cares what she sounds like (crap btw) when she performs dressed like that
>>61836556
I didn't specify the ratio between pop and experimental. As long it could be described as pop and experimental it's good enough.
>>61836568
Ever heard about art performance, characters and costumes? Her music is great btw.
>>61836568
this tbpachwyaeeitt
problematic
>>61836591
yuh here's the thing
St Vincent is post modernism. We're post John Cage, and post post dadaism.
Experimentation at this point needs to be unpleasant. It needs to contest a norm and be a difficult listen.
Just paying a homage to dissonance won't really make a song experimental.
Surgeon is pop that's also meticulously worked on by a talented musician. That's it. It's not going any further on the big spectrum of things.
>>61836329
i guess its that time of the month again. never understood how anyone could be this bitter towards someone this inoffensive. I think being over exposed to anything will cause this to happen to a person. Seriously, get off 4chan for a little while. You'll feel better.
it's really pathetic when pitchfork kiddies try to talk about experimental music as if they truly know what they're talking about. like, st. vincent? how complacent can you possibly be?
>>61836683
he's pretty pissed but he's right.
>experimental
>>61836685
You don't know how to read, kid? Pop AND experimental. BOTH. Jesus, this place is filled with pretentious idiots.
>>61836685
experimental is an entirely relative term and therefore completely subjective, if i wanted to i could make a case for literally any musician ever being experimental
that's why it's a stupid term and why this thread is no more or less valid than a thread discussing whatever you consider "experimental" music to be
>>61836790
experimental isn't a genre
>>61836790
you're the one retcon-ing the definition of experimentalism to suit St. Vincent
time signature changes aren't experimental. Nor is using 9ths and 11ths in your melody (human racing).
Throwing fruits towards a wall was experimental in the 60s. Playing sounds backwards too.
>>61836834
You take some extreme forms of experimentalism to suit your argument. gg
St. Vincent has experimental elements in her work. Period.
>>61835932
god that guitar's head is ugly
>>61835932
bork desu
>>61836824
Pop isn't too. Pop = popular music.
"Artists that combined pop with experimental" means artists that combined accessible/familiar sounds with inaccessible/unfamiliar sounds. Unfamiliar for the masses, not for /moooo/ nerds.
>>61836878
Bjork, surely.
>>61836882
pop is a genre
usually will have a 4/4 time signature
a chorus
melodies are imitative throughout the song to create catchyness
>>61836853
Hey Lady Gaga used a neapolitan chord in G. U.Y
That's a chord known for it's dissonance, being only a semitone distant from the tonic chord.
Is Lady Gaga experimental now?
>>61836737
I agreed more with some of what >>61836313 said.
>she's not the experimental queen you're building her up to be here.
>She borders experimentation in some songs but that's just natural for someone who's studied music like her.
I'm a fan of her but never discussed her with this board because it's all just waifuwars from what I've seen.
>>61836925
I was with you until
>listening to lady gaga
Dude what?
>>61836925
Do you mean thst you actually enjoy lady gaga
Kek lmao
>>61836925
Why would you ever get that deep into lady gagas music?
>>61836954
>waifuwars
it's trolls vs anniefans, the former being out-trolled by the latter
>>61836925
>Hey Lady Gaga used a neapolitan cgord in G U Y
Ok, now go back to reddit
>>61836200
Pop= A structure
Experimental= A way of creating music.
whats your fucking point now .
>>61837037
>>61837008
>>61836978
>>61836994
>guy brings up a flaw in an argument based off another talentless hack
>"haha faggot you you listen to gaga"
Pathetic because you guys respond like 12 year olds. Instead of pointing out that he listens to Gaga, how about disputing his argument?
>>61837008
>Why would you ever get that deep into lady gagas music?
Why would you ever get that deep into Annie Clark's music? Same exact shit. Both have a little bit of musical theory understanding and they utilize in their songwriting. The exception is that if you say you like St. Vincent no one is going to tell you to go back to reddit.
>>61837111
>being this mad
>>61837083
>Pop= A structure
Pop has multiple meanings.
>music of general appeal, esp among young people, that originated as a distinctive genre in the 1950s. It is generally characterized by a strong rhythmic element and the use of electrical amplification
>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pop
General appeal = accessible, catchy, easy to like.
>>61836978
>>61836994
>>61837008
>>61837037
You all did know I was a fag. That's what fags listen to
>>61837111
Oioioioi
>>61837111
>Why would you ever get that deep into Annie Clark's music? Same exact shit.
I actually understood your previous point, but enough is enough. It's not the exact shit. At all.
>>61837164
Telephone is better than Bad Believer
>>61837148
And why is accesible and catchy and easy to like? Because pop music has been using the same song structure for the past 60-70 years.
>>61837164
>I actually understood your previous point
I'm a completely different person that was observing this thread.
>enough is enough. It's not the exact shit. At all.
How? Explain? As far as I can see, both are female musicians who employ music theory, have a wild image and make popular music compositions.
>>61837141
>mad
I'm laughing at you. Sorry I have to word it out to you.
>>61837197
Possibly. But Bad Believer is just a bonus track anyway.
w8 is this nigga trying to argue that st vincent are experimental because they're "pop and experimental" as if that means anything and has never been done before by better acts
look up joe meek p4k kiddie
>>61837259
Nigga, I didn't mean that St. Vincent is experimental (ONLY), I meant that's she's both. Her music is a mix of both. Are you too dumb to understand that?
>as if that means anything and has never been done before by better acts
Speaking of that: her music is unique. I challenge you to find a truly similar artist. Go.
>>61837293
whats the most experimental band you know, please , tell us.
>>61837293
unique does not mean good, i hope you know that.
listening to her music, it's obvious that's nothing more than a pointless, hackneyed mishmash of the most obnoxious styles, created only to appeal to stupid greenhorn kids like you.
>>61837293
>I challenge you to find a truly similar artist. Go.
The pop group, Broadcast, and pretty much any noise pop band with a female singer.
>>61837306
Radiohead
>>61837197
That's because bad believer is her worst song and it is also a shit song
>>61837259
>St. Vincent are
>they're
Do you even know who she is?
Anyways of course st vincent is not experimental, yes she uses noise at times and yes she has a few near no wave songs but thats it, she makes chamber pop, art rock and a bit of noise rock.
T b h the only albums i would consider experimental from last year are Clarence Clarity - no now, Zs-Xe and iglooghost - chinese nu yr. They are the only ones that really use new sounds, i wouldnt consider anything already used like noise as experimental
Yet, she makes very good music and she is very good at what she does and i enjoy it a lot.
Also waifufags and trolls should die and this thread is shit.
Vye
>>61837377
>T b h the only albums i would consider experimental from last year are Clarence Clarity - no now, Zs-Xe and iglooghost - chinese nu yr. They are the only ones that really use new sounds, i wouldnt consider anything already used like noise as experimental
hahahahahahaha
thread over fellas
>>61837377
lmfao just because you browsed rym for 5 seconds doesn't mean you can just throw around terms like art rock and chamber pop
u have no idea what you're talking about
>this is what pitchfork breeds
sad.
>>61837385
>hahahahahaha
Tell me what other albums would you consider experimental?
Keiji Haino and jim orourke collaborations are very good, but they sre nothing new
Colin stetson/sarah neuman is neither nothing new
Benoit pioulard, duane pitre, tom carter... again nothing new
Tell me whats your fav experimental album fron last year
>>61837443
>the experimental music worldview of someone who listens to st vincent and browses pitchfork
absolutely hysterical. what else can you do? can you sing?
>>61837463
Name one for once instead of being a pathetic cockgoblin
>>61837463
Why don't you answer his question?
>>61837463
He fucking told you to say what your fav experimental album was you mong
>>61837500
because i don't think he deserves one. he's looking for the last word and is obviously not interested in music. i know his type.
>>61837524
probably rien by noel akchote or aither by vox populi
>>61837545
shit taste
>>61836683
She is offensive though. She pervades this board as a total meme, and I'm expected to take her seriously as she gets plastered all over this board as some sort of avant-pop genius. But she isn't whatsoever
>>61837545
>aither by vox populi
speaking of this, is there a more obvious rip off ever?
https://youtu.be/ayc7HADpuWI
https://youtu.be/Kpa9LtunUcg
>>61835971
>>61835985
>>61837595
sounds nothing at all like atmosphere, except maybe for the progression which isn't very uncommon at all. you suck at this.
>>61837545
The other anon tlfucking told you your fav experimental album fron LAST YEAR which uses new sounds not used ALREADY
and you go and give him an artist instead of an album, and an album from decades ago both being are just mixtures of ambient, guiat and a bit of jazz
U dum?
>>61837645
>just
>just
>just
you have a very bad way of looking at music. if you say things like "just" when you listen to experimental music then it's obvious you don't really care about it.
>>61836136
So hott
>>61837892
Would totally combine her pop with my experiment if udiggwhatimsayin
>>61838045
That body just
fuckkkkkkkkkk
>>61838104
Her butt is super underrated tbchwy
>>61838201
FUCKKKKKK just wowwww
this whole thread is just depressing desu
>>61837317
Idiotic opinion is idiotic. It's obvious that you're a pleb and you didn't understand her music at all.
>>61837318
Broadcast isn't similar to St. Vincent. Maybe a little regarding vocals.
>>61838405
Why? It's was some interesting discussion t.b.h.
>>61837463
You avoided replying to questions like a motherfucker. GTFO troll.
Solex
>>61838441
Too much music not enough rina
Clearly
>>61837581
You just don't get her music, dude.
>>61838201
Underrated experimental side
>>61838491
MOARRRRRR
>>61838831
thighs are love
thighs are life
>>61838928
HOLY FUCKKK
Those thighs
That dress
Those tits
Fucking perfection!!
Anymore in that outfit?
>>61838485
this desu
>>61839126
thats the only one i have in that outfit
its a great shame but what can you do
>>61838928
>>61839126
>>61839466
More here - https://500px.com/photo/108199411/marina-the-diamonds-by-luuk-
>>61839466
You still did great my man!
UGHHHHHHH
>>61838503
Same bullshit answer you get from all Annie's fans.
>>61839972
>that hint of sideboob
mmh
good job family
>>61835932
Shit
>>61840181
U dun goofed
U just killd urself
>>61837377
Agree. I understand what you mean with experimental and new sounds but i dont think thats a real reatriction for experimental
How about instead of making the entire thread alternating between shitting on St. Vincent and waifuing over whoever the other chick in this thread is someone post some more music what fits OP's criteria.
>>61839972
>>61840034
>>61839466
>>61838928
All in one place
http://imgur.com/a/TdRoC
>>61840266
It'd be worth it to take you autists down with me.
It's interesting to see that some autists here think that experimental means only unlistenable / unpleasant sounds.
>>61836107
Almost puked
>>61840541
Why? You realized how stupid your are and how little you achieved compared to Grimes?
>>61836107
>Grimes
>experimental
She's as experimental as Madonna
>>61840284
You da best!
>>61840604
You must be deaf. You can't hear anything experimental in all her albums, especially Visions & Halfaxa?
>>61840267
the reason why nobodys doing that is because "combines pop with experimental" is such a ridiculously broad description that its essentially meaningless
OP might as well have said "ITT post your waifu" and it would have been precisely as relevant to musical discussion
>>61840658
Well experimental pop exists. It being broad isn't a bad thing. But this thread has been hijacked by people who don't want to discuss the topic and part of the blame is on OP for starting a thread on /mu/ with even a cursory relation to St. Vincent.
>>61840658
>autist in action
>>61840701
What's wrong with St. Vincent? She fits the description perfectly.
>>61840704
are you happy with your life
>>61840724
I like St. Vincent but I'm not going to say whether I think she's "experimental" or not but regardless, /mu/ has a hateboner for her and using a picture of her in the OP is one of the main reasons the thread is fucked at the moment.
>>61840757
It's the board's fault that can't handle a decent discussion about St. Vincent. Way too many contrarians.
