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When old rappers think they're doing innovative things but instead drops redundant garbage that sounds like every other redundant garbage on the internet.
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it's a remix dude, i highly doubt he thinks it's innovative
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Because fans will eat it up no matter what. It's not like these "artists" actually care about being original or making good music.
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>>61409534
I wouldn't be surprised if him and his fans thought this was genius. Kanye needs to go back to the days where he wasn't working or doing collabs with a shit load of random people
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he's only concerned with selling as many shoes and articles of clothing as possible.
you can see that through his feeble attempts to diss nike (which he only sees as a competitor in the shoe market)

he fell off big time with this track and i can't believe it
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>>61409513
>when OP posts about shit he has no idea what hes talking about

kanye already stated he know he made a perfect album with MBDTF. and that when he tried to give art and try something new on Yeezus, everyone hated it. so hes going to give people trendy pop bandwagon music for SWISH because everyone complained about Yeezus.
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>>61409580
that's really weak damage control
im sorry kanye has failed you and that you are this deluded
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>>61409580
>"Let's pander to the dumb masses because I don't like being criticized for being original!"

The definition of sellout.
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god that cover is so shitty

why do people have such shit taste when they get old
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any artist automically becomes irrelevant when they hit 35. sorry buts its the truth
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trap is a disease that's now beginning to hit people who were previously innovators. it must be stopped. atlanta must be nuked.
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>>61409617
what about death grips? weren't they all over 35 when they started?
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>>61409580
making trendy pop music just makes him seem old and out of touch.
If he kept making art music at least he would be doing what he wanted to do
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>>61409617
really only true of rappers, unless kanye himself breaks the curse.

in other popular music genres you have tom waits, paul simon, bjork, lenoard cohen, the list goes on.
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>>61409630
your picture had me questioning what kanye and MIA were doing together then I saw this and have so many more questions.
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Its screwed up how these underground rappers sound 1000 times better than these mfs on the market. Divine Council, Goth Money, Metro Zu, and Awful records are the shit now. Kanye is just pure garbage. Dude needs to go back to Graduation and College dropout flows
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>>61409630
yeah im from atlanta and the music scene is pretty bad
it's not like i hate trap or anything, but people aren't making anything new or exciting
every "producer" here just uses fl studio and makes trap music thats been played out for a while now
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>>61409638
bjork is somewhat overrated to me.
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>>61409645
they made swagga like us together
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>>61409659
i strongly disagree
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>>61409630
>>61409655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GOOPEsG8aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1KVpf_ZfrQ
Awful records are decent. They're from Atlanta
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>>61409638
the problem with rap is that it worships youth, being an old man making country music and folk can be pulled off
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>>61409632
stefan JUST turned 37 and zach is 36 and andy is 57
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>>61409645
Kanye keeps calling her a genius and inspiration and asking her to collab with him. It'll happen at some point (wouldn't really count Swagga Like Us).Too much mutual respect there for it not to.

Aziz once did a stand up bit about trying to get with MIA and she flat out didn't even dignify him with a response lmao.
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>>61409683
pretty lame m8
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kanye needs to transcend rap properly

he's nearly done it a couple times but he keeps slipping back
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>>61409648
yeah even SGP made better trap shit than this
RIP SGP

>>61409513
The problem with kanye is that even with this most likely being a freestyle throwaway. his stupid fanbase will critic this as some next level shit.
will never forget when this tumblr girl I was talking to at a party called travis scott a kanye west protege and everything he has released is a deconstruction of trap music.
dumbass graphic designer

but anyway SWISH should be good.
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>>61409638
>yfw Bjork makes a trap track next
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>>61409645
kanye is indian
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>>61409701
tbf I've never seen a Kanye track trashed so much, even among the fanbase. and the "throwaway" excuse only goes so far. it's not an excuse to pump out shit. hotline bling was a throwaway.
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>>61409569
Kanye plz i will buy shoes if you drop something as good as the college dropout.
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Anyone know where the sample is from?
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>>61409645
does kanye only hang out with people shorter than him ? he is 5'8 but is never the shortest guy in the room. what gives man
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>>61409645
She was supposed to feature on Drive Slow and MBDTF, but neither ended up happening for whatever reason.
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>>61409720
hotline bling was not a throwaway. Drake is an insecure faggot and calls things mixtapes for fear of low sales hotline bling was a sleeper hit and Drake just said it was a throwaway in case it didn't pop.
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>>61409701
This man said Spaceghostpurrp bahahahahah. RIP SGP he's only relevant still bc of Robb Banks and Goth Money
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>>61409695
well any suggestions? how about you put out some links
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>>61409701
>>61409763
wow yall niqqa really sum bum azz broke azz haters son definately could rap yall da type of niqqas to listen to mac miller hatin azz niqqas
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>>61409730
Not a bad idea tbqh. I'm 5'8 but unfortunately most of my friends are over 6'
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>>61409608
it's literally ripped off some fan's instagram
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>>61409750
Hotline bling was huge everywhere man
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>>61409632 bruh can't you all stfu about DG. yeah they're around their mid and late 30s but still stfu about them
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>>61409685
i think jay-z pulls off being old sometimes.

i don't think his artistic decline had a whole lot to do with being too old.
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>>61409685
not true anymore. especially with the "daddy issues" being the normal trend on tumblr
older rappers are preferred now
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>>61409729
father's children dirt and grime
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>>61409513

I thought it was good but that's cuz trap is my shit. Kanye a true innovator desu
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>>61409815
if someone has daddy issues why would they want to listen to a dad you idiot?

>>61409806
jay z is irrelevant musically
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>>61409778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ParVZcBxWtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFO8q3iycRU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0e08Ggd9U

here's some cool stuff
i didn't mean to diss u in my last reply im just tired of the atlanta scene
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>>61409683
shits fire. I fw awful and divine council goes hard also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksC5f8ET0iY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2zfu4Ydnxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69z8Lj_gCzw
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>>61409688
>andy is 57
what?
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>>61409834
Yeah yeah I fw Kane Groceries. I've went to a Goth Money function before and Arca did that track with Dean Blunt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXoeFJZQIGc
and basically goth money got some of their influence from Atlanta.... they always come down here.. So your point? And they collab with Awful & Larry League
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>>61409831
because kanye is their new daddy
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>>61409831
>jay z is irrelevant musically
uh yeah no shit. tell us something we don't know.

what i'm saying is i don't think his decline had anything to do with being too old to be a rapper.

like he was putting out songs like this when he was kanye's age

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O3USgkwiJA

and he did WTT in his 40's

you can imagine how is career post black album could have gone a completely different way with the right music.
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>>61409834
Goth Money always performing at the House of Lotus in Atlanta. That venue is so trash.
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>>61409897
it took him 26 years to find his path. he was never a young rapper. Jay just wanted money man he doesn't care about music
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>>61409839
AYEEE CYRAX, ICYTWAT, AND SLIKMONEY GOES HARDDDDDDDDDDD>>61409834
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>>61409936
we need to IP ban anyone with KTT in their cookies.
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>>61409924
you're moving the goalpost dude, i'm just trying to dispute this idea that it's impossible for an older man to pull off rap.

there's gotta be an alternate dimension out there somewhere where jay-z remained n peak form well into his 40's.

kanye could do it too if he wasn't so lazy/retarded
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>>61409779
No bitch. Purrp really has some fucking mental issues where he's putting out trash music. I fw the music he had in 2011-2012 and him touring with Trash Talk while signed to 4AD. Him now, dude is fucking mentality crazy running around Atlanta being a perpetrator. I fw Goth Money, Divine Council, Metro Zu and Awful. I just don't fw purrp's crazy ass. You'll know if you met him and hung around him before. Which I have. He's crazy and he needs some help
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in other news

https://www.instagram.com/p/__Im91w6Xk/

>views from the six coming very soon
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>kanye makes one shitty remix
>"IT'S OVER KANYE IS FINISHED"

It's gonna be hilarious when Swish drops and it gets at least a 9.0 BNM
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>>61409998
did you miss the other shit kanye released this year
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>>61409998
>letting some arbitrary number control how you like a album

spotted the pleb
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>>61409998
it's hilarious that you take p4k as an objective measure of quality
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>>61409998
KTT is ruining this board.
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>>61409998
all the music kanye has released in the past year has been incoherent and all over the place, he is struggling to remain relevant and making music that he thinks will become a meme on instatwitterbook and top the charts but he just comes off as a fat old man who is trying to hard to be young.
shut the fuck up and raise your kids kanye, no one cares about your shoes.
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love how everyone forgets about 4 5 seconds lmao.
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>>61410053
it wasn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be
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>>61409779
YOU REALLY GOING TO FW A MAN WITH RELIGION FACE TATS ON HIS GAHDAMN FOREHEAD HUH??? GTFO I DONT FW MAC. PURRP IS A PSYCHO PUSSY ASS BITCH NOW WHO'LL ONLY TALK SHIT ABOUT OTHER RAPPERS ON TWITTER AND TRIES TO BEEF WITH EVERYONE BC HE ONLY HAS 5 FANS
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>>61409998
bahahah
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>>61410053
what about it
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>>61410115
any track you put rihanna on instantly becomes a hit

that's the whole reason he made the shitty song in the first place
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>>61410115
>newest song gets most played
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>>61410115
all those shitty paul collab songs got him stuck in the biggest rut of his career

paul mccartney yoko ono-ed him
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>>61410171
mccartney is such a fucking cuck.
>raises julian
>john lennon leaves in the middle of of Sgt Peppers
>still co credits him for the songs
>won't release Carnival of Light
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>>61410018
>>61410019
>hating based p4k

I want neo/mu/ to leave
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>>61409580
>trendy pop bandwagon music for SWISH
The sad part is that this is what almost everyone wants Kanye to do
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>>61410080
Damn, what happened to purrp?
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>>61410209
p4k CREATED neo/mu/
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THIS

https://soundcloud.com/number8sounds
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>>61410342
Actually p4k definitely used to be more accepted here and helped create discussions on new music. Kanye used to also be more liked on here, I'm not entirely sure what happened in the past 6 years. I think it was when Yeezus came out /mu/ started to turn their back on him. Also I'm sure a lot of new users have to do with this change.
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>>61409821
ty
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>>61409683
fucking love awful
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>>61410331
he went crazy. look at the previous post people said about him
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>>61410394
p4k was always shit and people only pretended to like it to troll, people are tired of meme rap and niggers but jewfork kept pushing it on us
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>>61410360
fucking terrible
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>>61410360
you have to pay me to promote your music on my post lmfao
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>>61409695
>lame
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I read on twitter last week that Kanye died, glad to hear he's still with is.
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>>61409695
>>61410679
>0679
>>>61409683 (You)
>pretty lame m8
>>61410679
"I cant stand the Atlanta scene, but I like Goth Money" head ass
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>>61410763
>(You)
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this is still one of the greatest Ye tracks of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhJteYnoLBI
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>>61410818
and this one lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYF_-mGGUI
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>>61410763
>comments video with noodlelegged wheelchairguy as lame
>doesn't understand own joke
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>>61410880
wanna be hipster so bad head ass
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>>61409683
This track fire too
https://soundcloud.com/luidiamonds/pro-nigga-ft-senseiatl
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>>61410977
ah i see, you just can't into english. that explains it
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>>61409750
Hotline Bling was a throwaway. It wasn't even on the mixtape. He released it for free on Beats Radio and Soundcloud with a few other songs and it was originally called "Cha Cha Remix". Then it started getting views so he changed the name and officially released it.
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>>61410012
>this year
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>>61409685
"You can play country, blues, classical until you're 100. But there are two genres of music in particular, rock and hip-hop, and one of them hasn't been around long enough yet to have old stars, that you cannot pull off after a certain age. I felt like a jerk doing it in my 40s."

-- Grace Slick
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>>61411639
>implying drake didnt plan it that way
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>>61411717
>>61409685
Then again, Bob Dylan gets crapped on for not wanting to play his old hits at shows and he's doing 100% age appropriate stuff and not pretending to still be 25.
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>>61411836
I agree however someone like Leonard Cohen didn't have as many canon hits as Dylan and was also not so strongly connected with 60s youth culture.
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I'm not saying you can't do good songs or have hits when you're old. Johnny Cash was literally a dying old man on his last album, but his cover of Hurt was so powerful and moving that...

My point is that good music comes from the heart, what you're actually feeling instead of pretending to be something you're not to match fans' expectations of you.
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>>61411904
Gee it's too bad the Rolling Stones don't do an album of blues covers since they love blues and it would be age appropriate as opposed to being a pensioner singing about sexual frustration.
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>>61411904
>>61411717
Ok I can understand the point Grace Slick was making, but you think if she thought she was too old to rock, she could have just done other kinds of music instead of giving up on it altogether.
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>>61409964
Well, I can think of a lot of rock groups like Aerosmith that were still relevant and had charting hits in their 40s. In theory it wouldn't be impossible for a rapper that age to still get it done.
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>>61411958
>>61412035
The Stones had a minor hit with Doom & Gloom in '13. While the days of them producing salable albums are long over, they could still drop the occasional single.
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>>61412133
Uh huh. The Who have made Tea & Theatre from Endless Wire a regular part of the live setlist and fans seem to be ok with it.
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>>61412133
Didn't they collaborate with younger artists recently though ala Paul McCartney and Kanye? It seems to be a backdoor for these old fucks to return to relevance. "Yeah mang I'm like 70 but if I do a collab track with a 30 year old artist, then I'll be down widda kids."
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>>61412133
25 year old artists can't even move albums anymore in the Internet age.
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>>61411717
Sure I mean nobody cares that Willie Nelson is doing what he does in his 80s but people have been laughing at the Rolling Stones since the Reagan years.
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>>61410514
back to /pol/ retard
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"When the 90s started and we were pushing 50, things got hard for us. We started getting all the jokes about the Strolling Bones and whatnot. Well, what did they expect us to do? Quit touring? What were we supposed to do with ourselves?"

-- Keith Richards
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>>61409688
kek
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>>61413136
watched that netflix doc and keith seems like a pretty cool dude desu
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>>61414595
>throws a pissy fit lawsuit over The Verve sampling a completely different arrangement of one of their songs which was ripped from old blues
Nah
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If Swish is full of tracks like Wolves and All Day it will be dope, if it is full of tracks like 4 5 seconds and FACTS then it will be fucking terrible
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>>61409564
Nah, I'm a huge Kanye dick rider and even I thought Facts was shit
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I think it's great. (I also think you'll all be dickriding this vibe by the end of the year.)

Fuck Nike.
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Just listened for the first time and holy shit that was awful. Kanye sounds like he's parodying the way he raps. The beat's not even bad either, it's just being wasted on a bad song.
>>61415100
hi kanye
how's that 2020 campaign going along?
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