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Help me write an album tonight, /mu/
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Hey /mu/tants. I'm lonely, a bit drunk, and have a shitty studio to myself, feel like making an album tonight as a little bit of a challenge to myself and also, hey, to give back to the community, you know? I'm a multi-instrumentalist, and in the studio with my right now I have an electronic drum-set, a guitar, a shit-ton of effects pedals, a bass, and an old casio keyboard from the 80s. You guys decide song names/themes. Are you feeling feelsy? gimme a song-title that fits into what you're going through, and I'll write some lyrics and some musak that'll fit. I write mostly psychedelic rock, kinda in between tame impala and mac demarco. I'm not gonna be a faggot and do "rolls" for shit, if you gimme a good or funny or neat or sad idea, I'll work with it, upload it, and you'll have your song.


I'mma start noodling with some different guitar effects and posting some random stuff on vocaroo until people bump the thread and come up with dieas.

Lets write a masterpiece, /mu/.
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>>61401279
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ErxapQMt4v


one guitar idea i've had floating around. what should this song be about?
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>>61401279
bump. heres another vocaroo

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nutAGBj4zS
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>>61401366
'nother

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qCPNUL3nlW
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honestly at this point i'll take any ideas anyone posts. not that i dont have ideas but itd be fun to do this.... together... :^)
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>>61401279

>be the toilet chalice for my cum communion
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I'll be your briny brony for a bitcoin
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>>61401450
thats a really shit idea mang.

>>61401472
briny?
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>>61401450
wut
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>>61401472
heres another chord progression

>>61401517
anon, gimme an idea
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>>61401279
Having completed your goal you feel empty instead of complete, song for this feel?
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>>61401537
ouuuuuu i like it! i'll get working on it now anon. keep this shit bumped
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add a bassline to a church sermon
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OP you should stream this
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>>61401721
i would but i honestly don't know how. First song is about 50% done. Just laid down two guitar traks and a weird sitar thing keyboard track. idek. might go for a smoke break because DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>61401734
Try https://www.krue.tv/
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Make a recording of yourself masturbating while sending deadmau5 40 dollars
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>>61401734
>DUDE WEED LMAO
this will surely capture the emptiness
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okay, just finished bassline, gonna do vocals and drums next. i shoulda started with drums. next song i'll start with drums


Does somebody wanna make me some shitty album artwork? I don't have time to do shit photoshop rn and i'm calling the album "for the mutants" unles you guys have amore patrician name. idk. up to u thanks famalai
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>>61401878
use studio room as photo with "For the Mutants" displayed on your monitor
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>>61401878
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>>61402051
amazing, anon. ty. uploading song right now.
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>>61402051
Take off the outer glow on the text, bump the red value slightly to make the yellow less "green" and this is actually pgud
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Can you make a song about history?
Just your favorite historical event or whatever.

And if you are feeling really nice, please have it in D minor Aeolian scale
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use all the pedals at once
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>>61402163
Man, what's your fave historical event? I'll do that one. I'm uploading track 1 now, and this is the only other good idea.

>>61402178
that would sound like utter shit but would be hilarious. if i get through at least three or four tracks in the next few hours I'll do a noise track with ALL THE PEDALS, how bout that?

FIRSTR TRACK UP NOW MUTANTS.


https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants
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>>61402206
Congrats on dropping one of the first albums of 2016
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>>61402224
4 u

Aight, song two. Which of the vocaroo chord progressions should I use??
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>>61402206
pretty good
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>>61402206
>Man, What's your fave historical event?
Great Chicago Fire!! Can you make it sound old timey? maybe some honky tonk pianos or anything like that.

Thank you so much in advance!!
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also i need lyrics/feels/ideas for the next song. it's up to you, /mu/. nothing too vulgar though.

>>61402265
thanks mate. I don't have any microphoens in my studio because it isn't a studio it's my bedroom and i'm poor as fuck :^) so I'm just using headset mics and my computers built in piece of shit Hope y'all enjoy lo-fi
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>>61402294
I'm mostly a psychedelic songwriter, man... IDK if I can make anything sound old timey, did ya listen to the other track I posted? would something like that be okay? I don't really have any old instruments unfortunately :/
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bump, the normies are partying, so it's up to us true patricians to drop the most fire indie album of early 2016.
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>>61402206
>that was a real fart

>>61402295
Suits the vibe, I like it. You should bounce the drum track through the headset mic so it sounds more cohesive
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>>61402312
I don't mind. But I think if you get in the right head space it could be really immersive.
http://www.greatchicagofire.org/oleary-legend
Here is a story about it. Good luck and thank you!!!
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>>61402355
i'm sorry bro bro, I uh... I really don't know how i'd do that. I gotta start working on the next song stat. If I was at home, and not just in my university appartment I could totally do this. I've got a 200 year old piano, a bunch of violins and mandolins and stuff.
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>>61402352
you mean, make the drums LOWER-fidelity? desu that might just work at tying it all together better. I'll try that. TY. ANy other song ideas?
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You know what OP? I'm gonna work an album tonight too, let's bring the new years with some new music man.
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>>61402395
Well can you make it right now with the instruments you have?
We can both revist it later and I have some things written that you could do for the song.
When do you go home?
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>>61402463
in months mango.

>>61402428
fucking eh!
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>>61402511
Well can you give me your email or something?
I listened to your first track and I was really taken back. It would mean so much if I got to hear this song ive had in my head for years with authentic instrumentation and done by a pro like you.
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>>61402422
Your partner dumps you, they hit your dog (accidentally) with their car as they're driving off. Music is playing in the background as you bury your dog. What is this music?
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Can I put a song on this album?
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>>61402558
oooof that's rough. p. sad.

>>61402549
[email protected] mango
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having all your plans fall through and being stuck at home alone on new years
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>>61402609
Thank you so much. I guarentee by the end of your semester I will have an entire suite ready. You're going to love it
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>>61402638
and next door you can hear people partying. What is this music?
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>>61402638
oh my god i'm totally using this. because this is basically the exact situation i'm in.
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>>61401340
this track feels kinda late night to me.
maybe after long day, but not really a bad day.
like it's finally done with and u did your best.
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>>61402872
ty!!! song 2 based on this anon

>>61402638


uploading now
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>>61402872
-continued
maybe this would be a good song for the end of the album?
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>>61402918
Yeah, do it for closer
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>>61401366
this song sounds kinda troubling, but not serious.like there is a problem you know that you should do something about but just cant really bring yourself to actually fix. like cleaning your room.
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>>61402918
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ErxapQMt4v
yeah alright, i feel. it's a good "shits closing down" song.

>>61402973
My life is full of those. Any problems in particular? a weird mole you should probably get checked out? that english essay you know you should start? those bills looming over you?
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Make a song about I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST
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>>61403027
MAN THAT SONG SOUNDS SUPER ORIGINAL HOLY SHIT
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>>61402992
rather then a small problem you cant fix it could be more like. someone died, someone who wasnt really super close to you but close enough that you felt like it effects you still.
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>>61403066
woah, that's spooky, dude. my grandfather just died. I didn't really know him that well. saw him maybe once a month. it was sad, but when everyone who knew him so well was bawling their eyes out I was just like "oh, that kinda sucks".
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SONG 2 UP NOW....

ALONE ON NEW YEARS :'(
I WISH I WAS CHAD FEAT. TYGA

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

sorry my singing is shit on this, but i'm a poorfag and my computer has been lagging. time 2 close some background apps lmao
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>>61403087
it does suck. you may not realize it realize it. but it shows in the sound.
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>>61403136
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nutAGBj4zS
should i do that song next? Another pretty big problem in my life right now is i'm worried about my girlfriend leaving me. It's really troubling me. I don't know, man, I feel like every day I'll wake up to her at the kitchen table saying "we need to talk" so that's probably where that heartache is coming from.
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ringo deathstar is already a thing duder
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Could you make a song about a man who lived his entire life on a farm our in the country, and at the age of 70, feeble but wise, he awakes in new york city? Do whatever you want with that idea, but I imagine it would start peacefully and obviously become chaotic.
Up to you!
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>>61403192
huh, weird. ah well, this is /mu/, nobody is original, plus that's sorta just like my "drop weird and experiemntal shit here" bandcamp, not my main.

>>61403198
cool idea, I'll do that after this one: >>61403184
>>61403136
>>61403066
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>>61403184
the best music is music from the heart. fuck all to embarrassment, or opinions. Make a track about why you feel like you can't make it work with her.
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>>61403116
>>61403116
JUST REPLYING TO THISSO THAT EVERYONE SEES THAT SONG 2 OF THE ALBUM IS UP. SONG THREE ON THE WAY, WORKING ON IT NOW.
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>>61403228
Yeah, I'm working on that right now actually. It's more of a "fuck, I'm worried as hell right now, don't leave me" type thing.
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>>61403231
I hope everything turns allright for you anon
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>>61403260
it might be a depressing track, as it should. i look forward to hearing it.
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write a song about mac demarco recording an album on new years eve and discovering this thread on /mu/ shortly before sharing it
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>>61403262
thanks mang :) I'm really trying. It's tough being a songwriter without the money to really get the stuff done you want. I think I'm doing okay considering i'm basically using my thinkpad mic and pirated copies of DAWs. Like, the sound quality is V. low, but I can't get it any better with present tools. I see these rich kids get all this equipment and massive production teams behind them, and they still can't make decent music, and here I am just wishing I could scrape enough playing bar-gigs to buy an okay mic for recording. I hope this new year is pleasent to you as well :)

>>61403289
it's part depressing, part accepting the inevitability of life happening wether you want it to or not.
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>>61403316
bump, gotta keep the thread alive. anybody else here? Bump for me while I songwrite/recors. This one is gonna be a lot better than the others
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>>61403442
ALSO IF ANY ARTISTS WANNA BE A PART OF THIS, WHO SAYS AN ALBUM NEEDS JUST ONE COVER? POST ALBUM COVERS PLZ, AND EACH TRACK CAN HAVE THEIR OWN COVER ALSO I'M V. BAD AT MAKING album covers SO
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>>61403442
bamp
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>>61403316
shit Man. Im 18 years old and I know I wnat to make music for a living but these Kind of stories make me kinda scared
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>>61403316
lets hope both of us have succes this year artchan
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>>61403465
How about this for a track cover? anyone you want
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You need odd time signatures. Shut up, yes you do. Write the next riff as 19/16+19/16+7/8.
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Song three is up. this one took a lot out of me emotionally. it took a lot more to produce than the others. idk. what do you think, guys?

ALBUM LINK:

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/album/for-the-mutants

SONG LINK
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/broken-hearted-boy
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/broken-hearted-boy
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/broken-hearted-boy
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>>61403689
Classic Artchan, is there anything you can't do?
What song you working on now?
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>>61403607

Don't do it "for a living." Get a reasonable job with normal hours and then just spend time in the evenings on your music. Much more realistic and it actually comes with a lot of benefits, like not being beholden to the whims of fans for support whenever you want to do anything even slightly different from when they first heard you. Unless you're really sure you'll make it work (in the sense of having tangible proof that you're going somewhere in your budding career, not just having a feeling that you totally can do it because you're the protagonist) it's highly ill-advised to make that your plan.
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>>61403720
My computer is freaking out and no sound is working now.


fuck my life.

Gimme a sec gonna restart everything. If my soundcard has broken or something I might cry.
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I'm a nip food delivery man racing on me scooter
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>>61403776

Aleatoric music to the rescue, just finish the album without being able to hear what anything sounds like.
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>>61403776
update?
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>>61403804

no sound from headphone jack at all. tried three different pairs. I only have speakers and a mic. I therefore can't make any music with instruments, because it would cause a feedback loop and be unlistenable.


BUT DOES THIS STOP ARTCHAN ON HIS QUEST FOR AOTY??

FUCK NO IT DOESN'T. I HAVE ONE MORE INSTRUMENTAL SONG I WAS WORKING ON MASTERING, I'LL MASTER THAT AND THAT WILL BE TRACK FOUR. AFTER THAT IT'S TIME FOR US TO GO ELECTRONIC, BABY!
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>>61403776
shit Man

I m liking The vibe this has

also you got pretty excited un The sólo for broken hearted boy

keep going anon
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>>61403907
Feels good Man you can do ir artchan
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>>61403907
Aslo if you can maybe post lyrics????
Please
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>>61403907
also post your real bandcamp anon I want to hear your stuff
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>>61403958
for what song? I just basically, uh, well, this is embarassing, but I totally make em up on the spot, but I'd be able to decipher my own mumbling reverb drenched bullshit.

>>61403920
yeah man, thanks! I'm glad people are diggin my vibes :D


>>61403935

NOTHING CAN STOP US, /MU/

I'm mastering this song right now, gonna upload it soon, THEN WE GO EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONICA MOTHERFUCKERS.

First reply gets to decide what genre I can try and make the first electronic song. keep in mind I have little to zero experience making electronic music. we outcha doe.
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>>61404002
indietronic

think age of adz (the album and the track)
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>>61404025
actually i meant folktronica i was just thinking about something else and wasnt' paying attention
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i love u artchan
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>>61404053
I would DIE for artchan
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>>61404002
haha nah its cool Man, maybe with repeated listens i'll decioher ome of The words
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>>61404002
Hey are you still going to make my song about the farm man who wakes up in new york
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Holy shit this song is weird as fuck. I used a real drumtrack for it and i uh. I don't even know. it's lofi and, basically pet sounds desu. lmao. help. Here it is, anyways.

Track for is up

http://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/

>>61403989
here's my other bandcamp. no bully pls

https://wizerd.bandcamp.com/album/wizard

>>61404025
no idea how I can pull that off desu... i'll try anon! Remember I can't do vocals because no headphones :'(

RIP headphone jack, BTW. That kinda pisses me off. I'm too poor to pay for computer repairs -_-

>>61404053
I love you too.

>>61404071
I WOULD DIE FOR YOU, TOO, CITIZEN.

>>61404080
bro, seriously I have 90% of the lyrics written on notepads scattered around my room. What song do you want the lryics for i'll help a brotha out

>>61404088
I don't know if I can at this point, I can't do live instruments and I can't do vocals. :/ fucking blows, man. That was a cool idea, too.
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>>61404098
>:/ fucking blows, man. That was a cool idea, too.

Well im the same guy that had the Great Chicago Fire idea, so if we stay in touch id like to bounce some ideas off of ya.
You seem like a cool cat
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>>61404098
AGAIN, EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW, SONG #4 IS UP. THIS WILL BE THE LAST LIVE INSTRUMENTATION ONE AS MY COMPUTER HAS INEXPLICABLY FUCKED ITSELF IN THE ASS. THAT SUCKS, BUT I STILL HAVE A DECENT PAIR OF SPEAKERS, SO WE'RE GOING ELECTRONIC MOTHERFUCKERS.


LATEST TRACK:

https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/darling-let-go
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/darling-let-go
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/darling-let-go

I'm actually sort of impressed that we've gotten four tracks out in the like, two hours I've had this thread up. Thanks so much, /mu/. Love you guys. AOTY EVERY YEAR FOR THE MUTANTS

>>61404122
actually yeah, like I said, email me up, I should be able to use my desktop for production once I get back home in the coming months.
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hey artchan i came up with a little riff

http://vocaroo.com/i/s12179PDhnwh

its extremely quiet because my recording situation is shit but maybe you can use it somehow
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>>61404138
fourth track is patrician AF
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>>61404098
put The lyrics you like The most man
im cool with anything
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It could really benefit from louder/clearer vocals. Still pretty sick anyway artchan.
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>>61404138
keep it coming artchan.
This will be The first álbum I listen this year, Im planning on hearing it looking at sunrise
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This is gonna be AOTYSF for sure!
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>>61404150
My instrumentation abilities are down....

Anon... the art is in your hands, now....

you must become an artchan, too.

>>61404204
Yeah mango, I'm just in a shitty monetary situation right now and can't get any cleaner a sound without it sounding crackly :/

Dang guys, just when you thought he couldn't do any more, he finds a vocal+guitar only track on his harddrive, and adds keys, and adds drums, and rocks your fucking worlds.

Okay, i promise I'll start with the electronic stuff next.


Song 5 will officially be the last instrumentation song before I start with the crazy patrician electronic side B of the album.

SONG LINK:
https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/the-garden-of-earthly-delights-2
>>61404188
that's what I like to hear, mang.

>>61404257
WE CAN ONLY HOPE, BRO

fuck I'm drunk now guys lol sorry if my singing sounds like shit in some of the last tracks.


Also
>>61404189
Here are the lyrics to the newest song, I wrote them out for you as I was mastering it just now, so some of the words might be wrong etc.

I’m going down x2
to the garden of earthly delights

I’m coming round X2
it’s just a short flight off the mound of greed

And where you are

I will not follow
Just quite yet
X2

The man is waiting in the desert for the chance to shine your shoes
he’s been here so damn long, where he goes you choose

Can you see the dungeons
from where you are?

They’re filled with creatures
they’re filled with creatures with many arms

Shoeshine polish come a little closer, little bit of brandy, try and bring a roaster
can you feel the music, it keeps getting louder, can you bring me coffee, get a little wiser, feel the answer on your own, just you try and bring me bring me home

now here I am
for you
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>>61404138
The fourth track is really catchy,

Tell us what gear youre using artchan
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>>61404138

You should spread the current tracks through the listing at least so it isn't just a jarring "ok, here's where the computer started fucking up" line in the album's flow. I know you can't do that now with there being nothing to spread between them but just throwing it out there.
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>>61404350
Not a USA cover 0/10 baka desu

Can I write some lyrics
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>>61404350
Shit dude this fifth track is the best yet imo!
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Actually better yet can I just be featured on it

I'll help with the next track, even though all of my equipment is still in my car because I played a show tonight and I'm too lazy to unpack it all
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>>61404350
Hey I really apreciate The effort youre Putting into this artchan


Thanks
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>>61404350
AGAIN THERE'S ANOTHER NEW SONG OUT. THIS IS THE LAST ONE WITH INSTRUMENTATION AS MY HEADPHONE jack is fucked. That kinda sucks, but ah well, we'll make it senpai.

>https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/the-garden-of-earthly-delights-2
>https://ringostarwars.bandcamp.com/track/the-garden-of-earthly-delights-2


>>61404361
My guitar is a 1950s silvertone I got from my grandfather, it's pic related. My amp is a 1970s fender champ 5 watt tube amp that I also inhereted from him, and I'm using a couple pedals, namely an octave up pedal, chorus, compression, and reverb I have a shitty squier bass and acompanying amp, but it's nothing to write home about

>>61404404
sure dude, but I can't do any more singing, as my headphone jack is fucked and so recording won't work live. Gotta switch to electronic mode.

>>61404422
thanks a bunch, mr. double dubs.

>>61404434
You're welcome, man! It's a hard knock life, but maybe I can brighten the nights of the rest of the shut-ins on this board :)
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>>61404446
I'll sing if needed, I have a mic right here with me
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>>61404434
shit wrong image

>feelsgoodman.jpg


Also its 3 minutes to new years here where I live, so. Happy new years
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>>61404457
Happy new years, dude :)

>>61404456
I think I might head to bed soon, I'm pretty tired. I worked an 8 hour shift before this. Gotta pay for rent somehow, though, you know? :^)
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To bad i'm pretty much talentless or else I would contribute.
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Anybody looking to help can make me some more album artworks, though.
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>>61404511
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Don't you want to wake up and smell the flowers?
On a warm and sunny day?
And doesn't April showers bring flowers in May?
But is the climate just heating up?
Or am I going insane...
This is a crisis, and I have one every day.

I wrote a verse
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You know what /mu/? I'm tired. I put it in your hands.

You guys helped me tremendously.

Thank you for writing an album with me.

That was fun.

I'm very tired now :) I'll stick around for a little bit, but no more music until i can fix my computer. It doesn't seem like a software glitch, since my bluetooth speakers are working. I guess it's the headphone jack itself. fuck.
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>>61404651
Ahhh shit why did I have to show up late

If you do this again, I'll be there
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>>61404651
Its cool Man

Sweet dreams My prince
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>>61404683
I totally will.

ALBUM 2.

JAN 1ST, 2016

WE GON DO IT

IF I CAN FIX MY COMPUTER
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>>61404707
thanks for the music f4m
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>>61404707
update The bandcamp when you can artchan

I'll wait
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literally the best trip on here bro
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>>61404721
I hope you enjoy my music. That's all I can hope for to be honest. That's all I'd like in life. I'm happy that I coudl at least make some songs for you guys that you guys enjoyed and helped to make :)

>>61404733
You won't be waiting long, man. DESU I'll probably be on in a few hours. I never sleep long. Plus I'll be lurking here for a while longer, just way too tired to even think creatively right now.

>>61404757
thanks dude, I appreciate that. I don't really ever use the code, I like to stay anonymous, but in situations like this where it helps to organize threads I'll use it yknow.
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>>61404783
its all good rest now friend
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