Admit it /mu/. We always mock reddit, call them plebs, say their music taste in inferior, but in the inside we're jealous. "Why would be jealous of redditfags?" you may be asking yourself. The thing is, one visit to /r/music and you will realize the difference between /mu/ and reddit. While here we post some of our favorite albums and see them get ripped to shreds, call other /mu/tants plebs and listen to the most obscure shit just to get the honour of being called "patrician", reddit haves it easier. You can post your favorite album and nobody will call out your shit taste, you will get a polite reply such as "hey, I may not be a fan of this album but I'm happy you're proud of your taste!" Yes, reddit is a much happier and better place to discuss music than /mu/ is, there is barely any real discussion here other than shitposting. reddit also gets cool AMA's from various musicians while we usually get fake threads claiming to be one of them.
Admit it /mu/, everytime you post that "hello reddit" image, you know you feel jealousy deep inside you.
I hate reddit because its annoying to use
as far as I know the same faggots post here anyways
4chan is an edgier reddit, don't let anyone fool you
>>61400179
But I don't want people to agree with me
Without dissent I have no motive to seek out anything else, and if we just stuck to the same pantheon of acclaimed stuff and no one ever ventured out to improve their taste, then things would get stale
>>61400243
/thread
>You can post your favorite album and nobody will call out your shit taste, you will get a polite reply such as "hey, I may not be a fan of this album but I'm happy you're proud of your taste!" Yes, reddit is a much happier and better place to discuss music
What's the fun in that?
>>61400179
I dont care about their taste. Not too fond of the community. That being said, the only people who keep redirecting others to reddit are /pol/cucks trying to turn /mu/ into their redneck safespace.
>>61400316
why does /pol/ even hate /mu/
>>61400179
If I make an Annie thread on reddit, will she be ripped to shreds? I got pretty bummed out after that last thread about her here
We have infected them more than they have us. ITAOTS is all over their top tens.
>>61400355
It's one of the few places where they can interact with dem filthy librulz.
>>61400253
this is why you're in the "burn in hell" section of that trip chart
>>61400379
that doesn't even make sense
I doubt most here are even liberal
>not using both /mu/ and reddit
>not using smaller music subreddits
Plebs
>>61400179
>not being able to call out somebodys shit taste because of muh downvotes makes it a happier place
where's the happiness of that?
>>61400384
All I'm saying is that everyone simply agreeing isn't really discussion, it's just niceties. Disagreement and (constructive) dissent are all parts of conversation. I mean, all of the lesser known /mu/core (stuff like Fishmans and really any other band that /mu/ stumbled across) came from anons who were willing to go dumpster diving through a ton of music to find something that was lesser known but perhaps still fantastic.
But if there was never a need to improve tastes, to find new and more obscure stuff, then none of that would have happened. We would be stuck, listening to the same stuff over and over again, and never actually getting anywhere
>>61400411
>memecenter
JUST
>>61400253
I agree with you about this honestly
people need to have their taste criticized and they need to be able to accept that people don't like all the same music
You can post your favorite album, sure, but no one is gonna reply unless it's some mainstream vaguely respectable artist that is reposted every day.
/mu/ is great for having discussion at any cost because there's a big audience with minimal rules for behavior, so you will a ton of garbage replies as well as some great ones.
On reddit if you want anywhere near the same quality as the good replies, you have to go to specifically tailored subreddits that aren't as active and restrict shitposting, like /r/letstalkmusic
Both have their advantages and /r/music offers nothing but circlejerking of popular bands.
>>61400179
>You can post your favorite album and nobody will call out your shit taste, you will get a polite reply such as "hey, I may not be a fan of this album but I'm happy you're proud of your taste!" Yes, reddit is a much happier and better place to discuss music than /mu/ is
This is not a good thing, faggot.
>>61400493
but no1 fucking agrees on nothing here
>>61400673
you can say that all you want
I see people agree on things all the time here though
4chan is for autists, reddit is for people with Aspergers
>>61400438
but on here we don't discuss things, we call each other plebs for not liking what we like. most of time people will shit on something because it's popular.
>>61400645
you pretend as if on /mu/ you can post anything other than /mu/core and have an actual discussion. make a thread about a random album and it's going to get 5 replies, tops.
>>61400397
regardless, it's one of the most left-wing boards. nowhere else on 4chan do you see people outright denouncing transphobia (vektroid threads) and redirecting use of the n-word to /pol/ (kendrick threads). it's one of the better boards because of that though
>>61400179
>r/music
>discuss music
>>61400732
I see /pol/ as the other side of the coin for sjw
all they are is right wing sjw
>>61400703
On the contrary, poptimism and such are on the rise on this board
Yes, there is shitposting, and there are insults and "bantz" that are thrown around, but a measure elitism is required on a board like this. Otherwise, people default to talking about stuff like Marina And The Diamonds or Grimes, which is stuff that any teenage girl with access to the outside world can find on their own. and that defeats the whole purpose of a board meant for discovering new music and expanding your horizons
Reddit tries to be more productive, but their complete lack of knowledge of music makes it hard to achieve that. /mu/ is edgier and there's a ton more shitposting, but you're more likely to be exposed to new music here every now and then
>>61400179
>here we post some of our favorite albums and see them get ripped to shreds, call other /mu/tants plebs and listen to the most obscure shit just to get the honour of being called "patrician"
>we
*you
don't group the rest of us in with your retarded approval seeking
I go to both, but Reddit's taste is so limited. moo at least got autists with deeper taste, and also bantz.
/r/experimentalmusic isn't actually that bad discussion-wise and I've found a lot of good new music there.
>>61400792
disagree, 90% of /mu/ is music pitchfork and fantano likes.
if you can't keep all the needledick garbage in just one containment thread, you should just go to r/theneedledrop if posting on his youtube channel isn't enough for you.
>>61400863
tfw I come here for /prod/ threads
always there is a faggot ruining the thread
>>61400792
>tries to be more productive
Unless you count reposting the same lowest-common-denominator shit for upvotes as productive they don't even do that. Outside of a few tiny artist specific subreddits there's quite literally no quality discussion of music to be found. At least here you get the 1% of quality discussion and it's on music that's actually interesting.
>>61400772
Yeah they pretty much act like fascists. I'm not sure how that's any better than socialism desu.
>>61400883
That's literally what I'm saying. They want to discuss music, but they can't. Here most people shitpost, but the 'good' parts of /mu/ are obviously better than reddit.
>>61400179
their voting system keeps anyone from having a dissenting opinion, it's a fucking hivemind on reddit
>>61400907
I am pretty sure if a fascist dictator came to power they wouldn't survive and I doubt anyone who uses 4chan wouldn't either
>>61400779
lmao you don't actually think anyone goes out of their way to discover new music just to fit in /mu/? People listen to new music because it's fun and even with no elitism people would still discover new shit just the same way as before. Let people talk about whatever they want and if you want to discuss something else then make a thread about it.
>>61400926
I was largely agreeing with you, I was just pointing out that so much energy is dedicated to reposting the same shit for imaginary points that saying that reddit tries to be productive or provide good content in any way is giving it too much credit.
>>61400179
I would rather have shitposting and fun threads with unneeded hate than passive posting of hit songs.
Reddit is essentially the best of facebook, there is no subculture within it that brings out any truth. Reddit doesn't make me laugh either.
The biggest problem I have with Reddit is the self analysis in every post and meta discussion. Nothing ruins the magic of random people talking then someone explaining what people are doing and why they are doing it (how they are fascist, sjw, mra, etc..).
i prefer shitposting desu
>>61400969
>discover new music just to fit in /mu/?
I never said that, but when left to their own devices people tend to have a tendency to stick to what they know. It's human nature, plain and simple
That being said, people still discover new stuff, but there's been such a backlash against the elitism of old /mu/ that people are going to top 40 and legitimately discussing it without a hint of irony, something that would have been unthinkable on this board a while back. Anons who discovered stuff like Fishmans and Unwound probably did so both to find some great new stuff to listen to and also not have a basic taste like everyone else. That's the truth of the matter
this is so dumb
who wants to have themselves validated by the opinions of others? especially on the internet. you go to /mu/ and not reddit because you get reality and not a blowjob. while /mu/ is full of shitposts and memes and downright autistic shit there is more genuine and legitimate music discussion here than will occur on reddit because people don't give a fuck about others feelings.
Here you get autistic rage. That alone shows people care here more than reddit.
>>61400300
exactly
I don't want to feel like I'm in a lame "no negativity zone"
>>61400645
this
>>61400253
I'll agree here, while not perfect, 4Chan's contrarian approach to discussing music is better than reddit's circlejerk approach
>>61400406
/r/indieheads, /r/hiphopheads, /r/letstalkmusic, and individual band subreddits are pretty good.
>>61402044
indieheads and HHH are absolute trash
letstalkmusic is very interesting tho
>>61400179
>reddit haves it easier
Chicken nuggets is like my family.
>>61400253
>>61401965
These actually explain this whole thing incredibly well
>Reddit users
>On 4chan
>>61400265
kill yourself pedo-weeb
>>61400179
4chan mocks you for what you like
reddit mocks you for what you don't like
>>61402044
>/r/indieheads, /r/hiphopheads
KEEKEKEKEEKEKEEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
those subreddits are absolute trash
>>61402044
Yeah the individual band subreddits are cool. You can post there and pretty much be guaranteed a decent discussion.
>>61400253
>But I don't want people to agree with me
>Without dissent I have no motive to seek out anything else, and if we just stuck to the same pantheon of acclaimed stuff and no one ever ventured out to improve their taste, then things would get stale
The flipside of this mentality is letting your "taste" be influenced by the opinions of others, which is basically an inversion of a "hugbox" mentality.
"Uh no, I can't like AC/DC anymore because /mu/ says they're shitty dadrock!"
The same psychology is at work in both cases. Toeing the line for the purpose of fitting in.
I also think music "debate" is pretty much worthless. It's not a competition. Debate implies there's an end game goal of some kind.
Music discussion is something different, of course, but debating who is "better" between Miles Davis and John Coltrane is like debating salty vs. spicy food.
Nothing wrong with expanding your taste, but you don't necessarily need dissent to do that.
>>61400179
>You can post your favorite album and nobody will call out your shit taste
this is literally the only reason I post on /mu/ and the primary reason I don't on r/music
>>61403519
I totally get that, and I think that dissent and such should encourage you to seek out other things and expand your horizons as opposed to "change your taste". I have looked into EAI and free improv and other such esoteric styles at the behest of users here, but also maintain my liking of the Bee Gees and all of the jazz and prog I grew up with
Tldr; have this board motivate you to discover, not change
>>61400253
This is true...As long as you don't get swept up and pretend to hate bands you really enjoy, its good to get proper criticism as opposed to being coddled to the point where you never try anything new.
>>61403215
this
>>6140571
More like you can post your favorite album and have nobody reply to you. Only a handful of subreddits are good. None of them music related.
>>61401035
A while back when? You sound new, bro. This is the board that was filled with The Fame Monster threads
>>61402044
r/futurebeats is decent sub-experimental electronic, sometimes cool bandcamps get posted, but reading the comments I feel like it's always burnt out etards replying to everything
>>61401035
>old /mu/ that people are going to top 40 and legitimately discussing it without a hint of irony
Thing is, "Top 40" music isn't inherently bad. And on that point, defining "bad" in this regard (for any artform) is simply an impossible endeavor. Quality=Subjective and all that.
I think there's been a backlash against elitism because when you step back and examine it, it's rather silly. Music appreciation isn't a zero sum affair. Loving pop music doesn't take away the amount of love you might/can have for "serious" or "artistic" music.
You can love junk food while also loving a Kobe beef steak cooked to perfection.
>>61405587
Yeah
>>61405871
There was still a degree of poptimism, but nowhere near as widespread as there is now
And plus, then it was partially ironic. I'm not saying pop is inherently bad, but it's just kind of pointless on a board like this
>>61400179
I've had better discussions on /r/letstalkmusic in 2 months than I had in 5 years of browsing /mu/, this place is a fucking hole.
>>61406069
I'm not saying pop is intrinsically bad, but when it reaches such high levels, it kind of counteracts the point of a board meant for discovering new music and discussing said music. If we have a thread once in a while, that's entirely okay. Not all music has to be the highest of art, but when the catalog is filled with Art Angels and Marina it can understandably turn some people off.
I'd say the same if it was ANYTHING, not just pop
I like to be Anonymous, so i can shitpost.
I also like to shitpost and ruse people without them knowing who i am.
>>61406133
I feel you on that.
>>61400179
4chan is full of clinically depressed people with inept social skills, ofcourse most people on here are going to be dickheads. thats what gives this site it's character desu plus it's more funny than offensive
I'm not jealous cause it's not like I'm trapped using only this site, I could go to Reddit whenever I want, but I don't because it's full of people with shit taste. I guess what im getting at is fuck off back to reddit
Or you can go to /r/MusicTheory and actually discus music.
>>61400779
>Otherwise, people default to talking about stuff like Marina And The Diamonds or Grimes, which is stuff that any teenage girl with access to the outside world can find on their own.
Same goes for bjork.
/r/indieheadscirclejerk is the best music subreddit because all anyone does there is shitpost
>>61403519
Spicy is obviously the better choice btw family
>>61408266
Yeah but a teenage girl who stumbled onto Bjork is probably also not going to start blasting Medulla or Homogenic in her car anytime soon. She might hear Hyperballad, Human Behavior, and It's Oh So Quiet and that would be about it.
>>61407261
people are nice just so they don't get downvoted i hate their system. comments feel fake. i prefer 4chan cuz it's just more legit idk how to explain. :/
Honestly I just don't like the way they talk and discuss things there. The very way they construct their comments makes me uncomfortable. They speak as if somebody is holding a gun to their head or some Orwellian government is listening to everything they say.
I hate their humour and their intolerable sanctimonious attitude too.
>>61400406
I would much rather be anonymous than have an identity tied to anything I post.
>>61408601
This
>>61400179
>While here we post some of our favorite albums and see them get ripped to shreds, call other /mu/tants plebs and listen to the most obscure shit just to get the honour of being called "patrician"
REMINDER that if this is your experinece with /mu/, you're most defintely a pleb and should in fact go browse reddit
>/r/indieheads
a.k.a Pitchfork 3.0, reddit /mu/ : Reddit edition, /mu/ 7.0, /r/lewronggeneration 2.0, "how do i be a hipster but without actually being counter-culture" 101
Kill yourself if you're a crossposter. Or stop shitting up /mu/ at least.
Whether you like it or not there is a large cross section between r/music and mu users. Trying to maintain the facade that there isn't just perpetuates your elitist /edge/.
>>61410276
This this this. Anyone that molds their taste to "fit in" with moo is disgusting.
>>61400179
>We always mock reddit
nope we dont, tis divid and conquer mentality
>>61406069
>Thing is, "Top 40" music isn't inherently bad.
The bad point of top 40 is this
There is abookstore with 5000000 books there, 40 are on the front door of the store to people see.
Knowing only top 40 only is never entering the store.
Maybe a better example is only knowing the books from this top 100 list and only buying from there (and past lists)
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-books-Amazon/zgbs/books
>>61411297
this also means that your taste can and will be influenced by the store putting them on display.
>>61408601
>>61408610
Why? Are you ashamed of your posts?
>>61400211
This desu
>>61400243
bonjour reddit
Attention whore trio of ages are LITERALLY the only reason this board is worse than Reddit
>>61408266
But I don't just discuss Bjork and fill the catalog with threads about her music
I make a thread every once in a while to discuss her stuff, and then go to discover new stuff
People can enjoy pop, that's entirely alright. But discussing that kind of stuff should be done in moderation (and should be productive, not waifufagging)
I'm not trying to play holier than thou here, just stating what I observe
