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Laboum Soyeon~
>>61358980
>you dumb fucking spear chucking faggot
yezimemer likes twice now?
*chiki cha*
>>61358960
the vocals sound like girls day to me.
>listens to mr.mr.
GET HYYYYYPPPEEEDDDD
>listen to gfriend, clc, lovelyz, omg
zzzzzZzzzZz oh shit where am i
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lwNO6YTADA
Old groups are amazing
So are new groups
If you can't appreciate both, you're either a nostalgiafag or a braindead kfapper
>>61358971
rip her hair
>>61358977
>So that's why you're basically saying that kpop is bland now because there are lots of artists?
No
>Are you fucking retarded
Are you?
>people are still trying to pretend snsd isn't ground breaking and running shit
2013...
what are you guys doing for New Years?
>>61359000
I'm not saying that old groups are bad
They just personally didn't appeal to me
there's nostalgia playing a huge part and they basically had no competition
>>61359008
>ground breaking
lmao, I mean if you said f(x) it'd be a little more true, but snsd... lol
mr mr was snsd's best single since oh!
the mv was not good though
If snsd is so good
Why are they treated like they're old and busted now
>>61358993
eh... I haven't paid a lot of attention to girl's day's vocals so I dunno what to say about that
>>61359022
Less competition doesn't mean the music was inherently worse
It gave the artists more room to make mistakes, but each of those groups was still hugely talented
post ham you morons
if snsd is so good... why are they bad?
Why are Twice being compared to SNSD? They can't even do as well as RV yet, SM's third tier group.
They have to make it passed f(x) and RV, the gatekeepers, before they can even begin to be compared to SNSD
>>61359056
>hugely talented
wow, do you really believe this?
if snsd was bad, why do they consistently outsell your group, always win shows, sell way more albums, and have way more fans than your group?
>>61359034
Word, I love Mr. Mr. but the MV was shite and so were the outfits.
>>61359042
only memers do that, they're basically still in their prime in terms of popularity even though they're probably past their peak
post some goat korean albums
https://twitter.com/alphaca0609/status/679043001088270336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
HOLY FUCK SOJIN
That giggle at the end kills me hard out
>>61359084
>so were the outfits.
Mr Mr outfits were amazing
everytime i feel shamed by liking kpop i remember there's people out there that like pearl jam unironically.
>sales
wait, I can't shitpost in that territory, that's just plain stupid to bring
I literally cannot process the minds of people.
People that actually think that the newer generations are actually doing anything different or more exciting.
It's pop music. Theres literally nothing changing but the simple elements of how the music is produced.
And these new groups are literally adding anything new or interesting to the table. And it's really obvious
that being said, RED VELVET SLAAAAYAYYYYYY YASSS QUEENS THEYRE BACK #YERI#SEULGI#BAE#CANADIAN#JOYSFEET#SLAY#QUEEN#SLAYS#BETTERTHANSNSD#BETTERTHANSULLI
personally I can't listen to kpop before maybe 2011 or so
the sonic quality was so bad before kpop globalized
>>61359080
you are hella fuckin dumb if you don't
>>61359110
sorry that objective stats blow up your subjective opinions that have no basis in anything
A lot of people realize that kpop doesn't hold up anymore and has stopped listening to it
>"numbers != quality xD"
How does it feel to be a mentally impaired kid listening to shitty nugu music?
after today I can never look at binnie the same way again
>>61359114
post joys feet
>people like Mr Mr
what's wrong with you, even Hoot is better than that piece of shit
>>61358997
>Lovelyz - For You
>getting you hyped as a muhhfucka
select 2
Explain how your nugu group makes better music than the older generations
Protip: YOU. JUST. CANT.
>>61359114
I thought we (you and me) were gonna chill and not be obnoxious.
>>61359114
OK so how were the old groups like snsd so different and exciting? You're literally just nostalgia fagging right now
>>61359115
this is kinda true, there's still pre-2011 songs that are bangers if you have a good quality file
lovelyz?
more like
lovelour girls
if SNSD is old and busted and nugu groups are way better, why did SNSD blow out every other girl group in every single category this year?
>>61359145
that's like saying the first iPhone will never be as good as the iPhones they put out now
they take the best things from the old groups and improve the bad things they had
>>61359154
https://youtu.be/wq7ftOZBy0E
Post a song more hype and exciting and innovative than this from your nugugroup
Korean newfag here, can somebody explain all the hype with K-pop? I never understood why so many people like it.
>>61359081
Brutal....
>>61359056
i mostly agree with this.
i think there is too much competition at the moment, kpop is saturated to fuck.
some competition is good but when there's this much it becomes more about margins and making that cash.
i'm not sure if kpop was more or less innovative now as apposed to then though...
>>61359066
f(x) and RV are already better than SNSD
SNSD was toilet tier as soon as SICA left
Now this is funposting
>>61359162
>tfw got a TVXQ FLAC from JPS
>since it was too old, the rip process was bad
One of those few instances where the quality is just plain bad because the ripper did something wrong.
>>61359162
I mean regardless of the file quality, the mixing and mastering just seems bad
SHINee and f(x) seems fine though
>>61359179
So.. they take the old groups' mediaplay and times that by 100
And then add ugly girls with no talent? Wtf
Time to repost this for you peoples
2015 KBS Song Festival
7:50 – 11:30 PM KST
MCs Lee Hwi Jae, Taecyeon, and Hani
Girls’ Generation
SHINee
CNBLUE
Infinite
Apink
B1A4
Ailee
EXID
BTOB
Exo
VIXX
AOA
BTS
Got7
Mamamoo
Red Velvet
GFriend
Dynamic Duo
Zion.T
Crush
Streams
http://ustream.tv/channel/kgp756
https://streamup.com/kgp700
https://streamup.com/kgp720
https://livehouse.in/en/channel/351873
Countdown
http://time.is/750pm_in_seoul
>>61359192
>kpop is saturated to fuck
you serious? there is plenty room for a lot more groups, thing is that people are used to know them all because that's how things were
if snsd is so bad, why is yoona the most beautiful girl in the world??
>>61359233
Yeah
All these nostalgia fags are basically saying that
>not mainstream and not popular = bad
Back then everyone knew all the relevant groups because there were only like 5
Hyeri lad is a god. You nugushitters have had this coming for a while.
Reminder that fx is dead though
you guys realize when you're like "sm is shit snsd is trash" you really are talking to nobody... because anyone who likes snsd isn't insecure in their success and afraid of hate. you're all a joke to the average snsd poster
im the captain
>>61359181
RPPP is better imo
>>61359233
>there is plenty room for a lot more groups
There really isn't, it would require more companies because they can't promote too much of their own things at once
And new companies would never be able to make it because the big dogs would just drown them out
https://youtu.be/s2EQm6WPMHs
https://youtu.be/s2EQm6WPMHs
https://youtu.be/s2EQm6WPMHs
>no future generation groups will ever deliver a chorus this catchy
Why listen to music bros
>>61359193
>left
she was kicked
>>61359277
these are becoming less and less omoworthy, which is saying something because they weren't that good to begin with
>>61359269
Okay so you're basically admitting that the old groups were "better" because of no competition
What's the whole point of your argument then
>>61359277
How come you don't post uncensored JAV?
I want to blast
I won't do it to Chorong
>>61359277
sauce
>>61359114
>And these new groups are literally adding anything new or interesting to the table. And it's really obvious
if you say this enough times maybe it'll come true
you hype up groups that have literally sang songs bought from western artists, I don't know if you're stupid or ignorant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjETYX1awQ
let me know when nugus start buying songs from the west en masse
>>61359302
that's nsfw dude
>>61359181
hmm idk, this song is a mess imo.
they tried to throw too much into it.
innovation in kpop barely even exists.
>>61359271
Mr Mr is twice as good as this
>>61359315
that song was amazing thanks
>>61359306
do it to me
argue with me about kpop, I dare you
>>61359315
oh shit
Uh guys
I'm only 3 years old
>>61359315
Hahahaha hahahahaha nostalgia fags btfo
>>61359203
I'm sorry, anon.
>>61359338
the worst kpop songs are actually the best kpop songs.
>>61359315
DAMN
>>61359315
why do you guys post the ugliest pictures you can find of her shit groups? i might like them if you guys weren't such faggots here about them
>>61359297
No, as you(?) said there's just too much coming out and everyone feel like they need to constantly promote and release music, hence it becoming bland in the end
the best kpop song was made by me and nobody can dispute that
>>61359362
your opinion is shit and it's objectively wrong, leave now
>>61359338
kai is talented
>>61359332
don't get me wrong I enjoy the songs whether they've been bought or not but when people make it sound like SM is the pinnacle of creativity and innovation I get a little bit annoyed
there's nothing wrong but buying songs, just give credit where credit is due
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDbUqDGGtl8
>>61359339
>>61359332
>>61359346
>>61359369
LOL
it's really sad when the only lovelyzfan has to do this
>DAMN
>SICK
>LEGITNESS
>AMAZING
If you like old kpop so much
Might as well only listen to bubblegum pop
Because that's literally the only big difference between old kpop and today's kpop
You nostalgia fags think bubblegum kpop = good
>>61359233
you have no idea how many groups are debuting and going bust within a year.
>>61359402
you got btfo dude
the snare on sex trip is so annoying
>>61359402
nice dogde tho
>>61359402
>btfo
>>61359397
I already knew about that one but I really had no idea kesha was the first to put that out.
>>61359397
>wrong but
I should really get some sleep for the gayo
>>61359414
SEX
TREEEEEEEIEIEEEEEEEEP
>>61359393
This is a fact.
do they know it says "f-dolls"?
>>61359385
No, if anything else it's the opposite. They need to make better songs to make it
It's literally only the ultra nugus and YG that try to pull a "make the song as mainstream as possible"
>>61359404
gfriend is shit, loveleyz is shit, and twice is shit. What else is in dispute right now?
and don't mention clc or omg, because they're not relevant
>>61358757
>Snsd didn't make it big right at debut, but twice did
>many music show wins even though there are only a couple shows and a time when they much harder for rookies to win
>100k+ selling album
>one of the top 5 favorite songs and group overall of the year on gallup in 2007
>boatload of rookie of the year awards even against strong nationally recognized groups like Wonder Girls, Kara, Davichi, Brown Eyed Girls, Younha etc.
>multiple entertaining reality shows that got the highest ratings on their channels
vs
>zero music show wins even thought there are 78 different music show awards every week
>album can barely scrape 20k (even with fansigns out the ass)
>nowhere to be seen on gallup or any yearly public popularity polls
>gets beat by small company trash groups like Girlfriend for major rookie awards
>boring as hell reality show with a stupid premise and bottom of the barrel ratings
Twice shitters everybody
Having a XVI century waifu's where's at.
>She was noted for her exceptional beauty, charming quick wit, extraordinary intellect, and her assertive and independent nature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwang_Jini
>>61359397
word
SM are hacks
http://i.imgur.com/p3U8bjS.gifv
what if your waifu did this.....
someone post yoona before i riot
>>61359435
OK yeah I can just call snsd, WG, and kara shit too and make it undisputable
Retard
>>61359414
I actually liked the song. I didn't think I would but the beat is solid.
>>61359442
You're missing the point of the whole text you quoted
So how much better did snsd do at 2 months into debut?
>>61359397
The songs that was talked about was Genie, Gee and Oh! though
But hey lets continue this as strawmen because that way we can wreck each other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med2XipHJJM
This nugu group bought this song too
straws
>>61359454
I like this girl
yo ass will go UP and yo face will go DOWN
- babysoul, 2015
>>61359442
retard
>>61359454
>tfw subscribed to her
>no new videos in more than 2 months
fuck
>>61359473
not him but that's different because OC did it better and had no power before hand
>>61359457
I'm just trying to get to the core of this arguement.
Are you saying that those groups aren't shit? It's okay if you don't like snsd or whatever, but do you really think twice or loveleyz are not shit?
>>61359508
its not different
at all
>no power before hand
what
>compares the whole career of a 8 year old group to the career of a 2 months group just to prove his point
Haha
Sones everyone
>>61359473
>literally missing the point and just posting idiotic replies
>>61359085
taeyeon is my favourite member of snsd and it has been that way since the beginning
>>61359518
youre the one making claims that twice is better friendo
>>61359516
sorry you don't understand the difference between soshi and nobody..?
soshitters are so dumb lol
So
Gee>everything
Cough yeah
>>61359539
No I made the claim that Twice objectively did better right at debut than snsd did
But that guy missed the whole point and started comparing oranges to apples
>>61359043
omo!
>>61359089
so cute~
>back then you knew everyone because there was only 6 groups
implying you ever listened to H.A.M
https://youtu.be/_dW4K3kTn_Y
or F1rst
https://youtu.be/mw_ITJEDzg4
or BoM
https://youtu.be/Bqz4fteejTA
or BB Boys
https://youtu.be/9SFejreA6r8
or 8eight
https://youtu.be/aBVVtapEaEc
>>61359542
so youre saying its okay for OC to buy songs because they aren't popular? really?
also, SM actually buys the songs, OC just flat out plagiarized
at least yall are fighting about music now instead of your personal lives or fucking underage girls
Shes so sexy
>>61359549
p much
>>61359559
there's a reason no one remembers those groups
>>61359559
T.T Dance~
>>61359569
How you been doing famm
Do anything fun for christmas?
>>61359552
>Twice objectively did better right at debut than snsd did
and i objectively proved you wrong
>>61359472
Those are all things SNSD accomplished the first few months after debut.
They did worlds better than Twice in every way. Album sales, Tv ratings, public recognition etc.
>>61359571
i'm too nervous too desu
>>61359564
Why did you blur out her beautiful face
>>61359564
fucking retarded idiot
>>61359592
You're welcome
>>61359442
absolutely fucking destroyed
>>61359589
it's understandable
>Taeyeon to Guest on Chinese Version of “Please Take Care of My Refrigerator”
these show names man wtf
>>61359576
yeah maybe, I was just making the point that there was more going on that 3 or 4 groups.
>>61359560
well I'm saying all artists share music
Sm buys the most popular thing and does it in korea
OC is original by pretty much anyone's standards
and you have a point you're desperately trying to prove
>>61359579
don't ask me questions that aren't music related please
>>61359588
lol now this is delusion
>>61359594
don't talk about binnie like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcNseoQTEP8
I'm pretty sure everyone has seen this already but just to be sure we're clear ICC isn't a korean song either
>>61359473
it's not straw manning, other groups will do it too, nine muses bought hurt locker from swedes too but before that they've been using music created by koreans
also genie isn't SM's creation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc4JohH3Ips
>>61359085
easily the best album of this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzM1pK7JA3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zY1720sao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JydBw47XG5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5ivu2snBY
>>61359580
>>61359588
Haha everyone knows ITNW flopped baka
>>61359594
I do something nice, and you get mad? Sheesh
>>61359620
is she mad at me?
Thoughts on this album?
23 and Red Queen are pretty sick
>>61359622
oh now its "sharing" because OC did it
>OC is original
they are shitty jpop knockoff
K pop is pretty gay listen to some Death Grips
>>61359630
more proof that SM are hacks
Printer Power On
if kpop is so good, why do people use romaji instead of hangeul when writing it?
atheist - 0
>>61359644
like i said
>you have a point you are desperately trying to prove
>>61359630
No, the case of ICC is different. It's a demo song by the producers, not an already made song
>>61359637
of course not, anon. rong loves you
>>61359633
it didnt, by any standard
twice, however, is in the middle of the pack of shitty rookies
>>61359580
When?
imagine strapping your waifu to a chair and shaving her head
>>61359644
>they are shitty jpop knockoff
just like snsd
oh wait, ITNW is a classic and original, I forgot
>>61359668
she's too good for me ;~;
>>61359632
I like the lyrics in good times
about a minute it there is "all the good places good food and good people" line which is from this b f-free album actually >>61359085
And then davi van picasso too, I bet there are more I don't know about.
>>61359638
the first song is my favorite, the shower? yeah i love the vocals on it
>>61359632
im still trying to figure out if they double teamed elly
>>61359684
Haha ITNW literally is the most Japanese kpop song I've ever heard
The lyrics don't even flow like Korean, it flows like Japanese lyrics
maybe if we all hate every single group someone will agree with our opinion
>>61359677
by stating that they sold 126k with their debut album and saying that if that's a flop, then what is twice who didn't even sell 1/4th of that?
and then this guy just completely destroyed your argument >>61359442
>>61359654
*presses print button furiously*
>sm shitters BTFO
>>61359638
it's a great album, i like both of those songs + Zeze, Shower and Glasses. 23 was a banger straight away, the rest grew on me. Knee is a bit of a non-starter for me.
IU hasn't had a bad release since she dropped the cute concept a few years back.
>>61359638
one of the best this year imo
in my top 10
Yeri's printer returned on December 25th and printed over 400 pics. What a Christmas treat
>>61359688
she's too good for all of us desu
islam - 1
SM - 0
your move
>>61359665
youre the one who brought up "borrowed" songs buddy, or did you forget?
>>61359654
who is this delicate retard?
kpop haters general
>>61359666
yeah I know it wasn't actually released
>>61359707
*prints*
people are done bashing new snsd, now they're going for classic snsd too.
what's the big idea?
>>61359428
>implying they read bongrunes
umm does twice produce their own songs? does lovelyz? what exactly is your point? GD is the only person who actually makes his own music, everyone else buys from other places
Hahaahahah
RED VELVET >>>>>>>>>>> ANY ROOKIE OF 2014-2015
what's in the box?
>>61359699
It sounds like SES song actually
>>61359716
>>61359746
my wife on the left
>>61359727
you know what? I'm done arguing in circles with a retarded autist online
try not to kill yourself tonight
these two are gods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDJzgilPYkM
>>61359768
great counterpoints as usual
>>61359756
>GD is the only person who actually makes his own music
>refurbishing hip hop and rap from 5 years ago
>making music
>>61359633
Uh no it did not flop it did very well. Just came out the same time as Lies and Tell Me, two of the biggest Kpop songs of all time. Still managed to win some music shows. Girls Generation blew up after that and was a top 5 song of the year.
Way better than Ooh Ahh thats for sure
>>61359756
who is Woozi?
>>61359756
>>61359756
Word
Like... kpop artists dont MAKE their own music
You dont see a kpop idol in the studio just sitting down and producing music on their laptop
what kind of argument is that
>>61359756
le produces a some of exid's music and writes lyrics for a bunch of different groups/solos
pledis is so poor that seventeen does their own production and lyrics i believe, might just be lyrics tho
>>61359630
It doesn't really matter where the music originally came from, if it's more unique and more outstanding than everything you see on the market then it's better than Korean nugu producers that makes pure pop for nugus. They aren't really adding anything new to the table no matter how much you like it to be so
>>61359791
you tell me, i honestly have no clue
>>61359756
>>61359761
No one is denying that
We're just sick of your snsd >> shit
grimes writes her own music too
>>61359761
not mamamoo
how come when actual music gets mentioned everyone throws a fucking fit and gets delusional?
>>61359808
>we
also
>no one is denying that
isn't saying that twice is better than SNSD saying that, since SNSD > RV?
retard
>>61359800
so does Subin, she wrote a few songs from their upcoming mini
probably just the lyrics and a few chord ideas though, but it's something
>>61359756
Not really
GD co-produces with Teddy
Jonghyun co-produces with his friends
Seventeen and Dal shabet co-produces with nugu producers
So in terms of self production, GD is the worst these days
hahaahahahah
SNSD >>>>>>{ ANY FUCKING KPOP GROUP}}
AND ESPECIALLY THE NUGU GROUPS OH MY GOD THEYRE SHIT
>>61359763
Flowers and chocolate from me
>>61359802
fucking amateur. he's the leader of Seventeen, one of the best rookie groups of the year. he writes a lot of their material and bears equal responsibility as GD in BB.
>>61359801
oh so now "It doesn't really matter where the music originally came from"
lol
>>61359829
Haha look at this retard
I basically said I agree with rv > twice, but not snsd >rv
pledis doesnt deserve woozi desu
the guy is a fucking hero
>>61359830
rainbow? dal shabet? name rings a bell but the group isnt coming to me
omg twice is the next girls day
this is why you don't have friends, taeyeon spammer
>>61359866
>i basically said that I have downs syndrome
yes that was established long ago
>>61359756
it's not about making your own music, it's where you get it from and how you get it
buying some swedish song and then claiming that you're innovative is just silly
>>61359801
It only matters if you don't give credit properly, if you say 'SM produced this song' when you really mean 'SM bought this song from foreigner producers' you're being misleading
if only hyerikiddo would just beat the shit out of yozoh irl
Haha I wasn't even around when snsd was
But I'm just gonna say snsd is the best thing to happen to kpop because that's what nostalgia fags and delusional sones tell me
I also miss the era of psy gangnam style because that's literally the best and biggest kpop song ever
i just realized it's one guy with two devices....
what do you even want? for everyone to leave so you can just talk to yourself in your own little hugbox?
>>61359876
it's Dal Shabet, Rainbow has talent in other areas
>>61359885
>buying some swedish song and then claiming that you're innovative is just silly
when has SNSD or SM done that?
>if you say 'SM produced this song'
who said that?
>>61359876
girls generation
>>61359885
this retard
all the other companies "buy" songs from producers
it's not like they just hire a producer under their company
SM actually invites the Swedish and American producers over now so they can all make songs together
Times have changed
>>61359855
sounds similar to your argument "artists share songs all the time" lmao
>>61359315
d*mn yo I had no idea Kesha wrote this
it's still a good song, shame you're using it for such a stupid fucking argument
>>61359888
the dream...
I think hyerifag's right. But what do I know, I'm just a printer.
>>61359900
It's just me.
And I'm talking about music.
Leave me alone.
it literally does not matter at all if a song is produced by the agency or bought from another artist, once the group performs it, it becomes theirs.
the only reason you feel cheated when you find out song x was originally by kesha or song y was meant for this german group is because you are searching for authenticity in a genre where it is established right out of the gate that there is none.
kpop is the wwe of the music industry, everything is manufactured. suspend disbelief and enjoy.
even IU, the self proclaimed song-writer, doesn't even write 90% of her songs, an in house producer does
>>61359888
god of trips please make it so
>>61359936
>It's just me
yea we got it
if the nugu groups are so bad then why are they prettier at debut when snsd was ugly?
>>61359948
now where did you read this and copied it as yours?
>>61359925
>>61359954
>MASSIVE REVELATIONS
>>61359855
SM bought and used them, these songs are not rehashes or anything since they were never really released before
>>61359885
All the songs do get credited on papers, but it's pop music, the group/singer is going to get the recognition for the song
>>61359975
i assumed everyone already knew this too, but yezichimp and some twicetard are trying to use it in their "arguments"
>>61359954
thats because otherwise all her songs would be about little boys assholes
>>61359971
i just spent a good 10 minutes writing it, i'll take that as a compliment though.
>>61359948
They should manufacture Irene to be my wife
If SNSD is so good, why Jessica left?
the people they bought these riffs from could never even begin to understand or care about korean
