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Half of this album is filler.
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kind of the point senpai
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>>61325610
I don't understand how that elevates the album.
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Only like three songs
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>>61325587
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>>61325837
Half of the songs.

>>61325902
I don't understand this post.
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>>61325587
Define "filler"
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I cant think of a DOOM album without filler. Madvillainy definitely has some but i also cant think of another DOOM album with songs as good as Figaro and Meat Grinder
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>>61325984
and people wonder how he deal with stress so well...
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>>61325995

>I cant think of a DOOM album without filler

tmtyl
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>>61325587
all of your posts are shit.
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>>61325975
Minimal content. Drawn out to disproportionate lengths.

>>61326026
I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm trying to improve.
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>>61326017
I always thought that album had quite a lot of filler actually, a few lackluster samples, one of those too long instrumental tracks (I know this is probably a cardinal sin to admit but the cutting up of cartoons to say cool shit gets old 50 seconds in) and some corny instrumentals
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Born Like This is his best album :)
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all songs are filler though, they're supposed to fill up the album
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>>61325587
Only bad song is Hardcore Hustle
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>>61326186
T H I S

sickfit and eye are dope

and if you don't like shadows of tomorrow why are you even listening to madlib you fuckin wad
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not even close to a fan of this album, but I really don't think there's such a thing as filler on almost any album not by someone like.. Kesha. People always bring things like Sgt. Pepper or The Glow Pt. 2 when they talk about filler. It's so obvious they put their hearts in to Madvillainy or something like Sgt. Pepper, why would there be useless filler? That's so stupid.

all the tracks on this album feel unfininshed and aggravating, some of DOOM's lamest rhymes. Vaudeville Villain is so much better, though Raid is one of DOOM's best
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stuff i don't like about madvillainy:

>nasty coughing sounds on "america's most blunted", it's like i get it but it's fucking gross. biggie does this too and it's disgusting to listen to
>"eye" lasts a little too long for an instrumental interlude. sickift is 1:30, do not fire is 1:00, eye is almost a full 2 minutes.
>"hardcore hustle" sucks, it's not even DOOM it's some other guy, always skip
>"rhinestone cowboy" has a really annoying instrumental, i understand it's the conclusion but you can't fucking hear him rapping there's all this clapping and cheering and shit

it's basically like a 9.8/10 though
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>>61326340
disagree with instrumental parts, I enjoy both songs.
Fully agree with hardcore hustle, it can fuck off.
Rhinestone cowboy I can agree with.

I wish he rapped over sickfit.
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>>61326280
>DOOM's lamest rhymes
you listen to Meat Grinder?
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>>61326262
All the instrumentals are great imo

>>61326280
I know what you mean but that's why I like it. I enjoy the way it's set up like vignettes - sketches even. It's like you're walking through a long hallway and you keep peeking into different doors that correspond with each track. Maybe sometimes you shut the door before the track fully "lands" or comes to a logical conclusion.

Sounds stupid, but that's how I view this album, and others with a similar concept. I will say that I don't think DOOM was quite on top form here, but honestly I'm mostly in it for the beats/production, and often DOOM interacts with it in a very organic fashion.
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>>61325995
MM.. Food?
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>>61326413
motherfucker a full third of that album is shitty plunderphonics
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whats his worst album and why is it Operation Doomsday?
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>>61326390
thank you anon

'The worst hated god who perpetrated odd favours
demonstrated in the perforated rod lavers'
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>>61326413
like half that album is filler buddy bucko friendo
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>>61325587

shit taste.
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>>61326456
Yeah that's one album where I do feel comfortable using the term "filler"
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>>61326444
>tfw not doing bong hits on the roof in the west coast
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>>61326434
But there's so many classics on Operation Doomsday despite the skits
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>>61326434
aww i like operation doomsday

there's some songs that are rough or boring, but the highs are really high

rhymes like dimes (one of my favorite DOOM tracks)
the mic
red and gold
gas drawls
who you think i am (this song is fucking underrated and fantastic)
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The rest is empty with no brain but the clever nerd
The best emcee with no chain ya ever heard
Take it from the Tec-9 holder
They've bit but don't know their neck shine from Shinola
Everything that glitters ain't fishscale
Lemme think, don't let her faint get Ishmael
A shot of Jack got her back it's not an act stack
Forgot about the cackalack, holla back, clack clack blocka
Villainy, feel him in ya heart chakra chart toppa
Start shit stoppa be a smart shoppa
Shot a cop day around the way 'bout to stay
But who'd a know there's two mo' that wonder where the shooter go
>discuss
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Its too hot to handle. You got blue sandals.
Who shot ya? Ooh got you new spots to vandal?
Do not stand still, both show skills
Close but no krills, toast for po' nils, post no bills
Coast to coast Joe Shmoe's flows ill, go chill
Not supposed to overdose No-Doz pills
Off pride tykes talk wide through scar meat
Off sides like how Worf rides with Starfleet

has there ever been a better rhyme scheme?
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>>61325587
>Half of this album is filler.

I feel the same way about 90% of Aphex Twin's work.
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>>61326519

best song on the album
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>>61326519
best 2 opening lines all of time desu senpai
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>>61325587
Retard
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>>61326519
>>61326562
Wait till you see him on the piano
DOOM sing soprano like "una duociaaaaano"
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I'm beginning to reconsider my opinion of the album. Thanks for your opinions, guys. I'll give it another listen tonight.

I think I've still got lengths to go before I can fully appreciate much of hip-hop's nuances.

>>61326588
Shut the fuck up bitch.
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>>61326067
>disproportionate length
>majority of songs barely clock in at 2 minutes

Wot u on m8
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>>61326606
>my momma told me
>blasphemy pass me the glass of old e
its like every line on the album is quotable
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no one talks about strange ways, it's fucking god tier.
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>>61326655
Both don't need to be present.
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>>61326562
im a huge fanboy and even ill admit half of this part is gibberish but jesus if the rhyme scheme doesnt make me do that thing where you count along with your finger every damn time
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>>61326434
Sorry famiglia, it's definitely Born Like This followed closely by Mouse and the Mask
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>>61326674
No one talks about it because everyone recognizes how appreciated it is, it and Fancy Clown. There's no point talking about it.
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I think how good the first five tracks are, the perfect transitions between them, the great beats, make people exaggerate how much they enjoy the rest in their mind. I think that's true with a lot of mucore.
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I don't know if this makes me a pleb, but I think that basically every real song on MM FOOD? is perfect but the rest of that album is really hard to listen to.

The Beef Rap intro is fine and sets the tone
>AH YES, THE YOUNG TRAITOR WHO TRIED TO TURN MY PEOPLE AGAINST ME
>I HAVE SPECIAL PLANS FOR THAT ONE
>...BEEF RAP, LEADS TO GETTIN TEETH CAPPED
but the other "skits" are really just annoying as hell on subsequent listens.

There's only so many times you can listen to talking about soul food edible wrappers or Doctor Doom performing forbidden experiments.
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>>61326826
i agree, DOOM gets carried away because hes a weirdo but I never have problems with skipping them and enjoying the music as it is
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>>61326826
It's completely understandable, they do get a bit old.
The only one that continually annoys me is Fig Leaf Bi-Carbonate though.
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>>61326939
A REAL SUBSTANTIAL MEAL
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>>61326340
gonna agree with this. im fine with the coughing cause its a weed cough not a sickly cough. for some reason this makes a difference to me.
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Yeah, it's true. Way longer than it needs to be. Solid 2.5/5.
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I always thought the deal with Doom, and Madvillainy in particular, is that the skits and interludes are the alternative to hooks and choruses. It's hard to make an album of wall to wall verses without it getting boring or tedious, although I do think the tracks on Madvillainy and Keys to the Kuffs that don't have doom, but do have another vocalist tend to take you out of the album.

Also I skipped america's most blunted because the M-A-R-A-J-U-A-N-A skit is really annoying/embarrassing.

The Skits on TMTYL and MM Food are all great though. If you don't like those you pretty much don't like doom's production, cause they're a pretty important part of it
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>>61326340
>not clapping and cheering along with rhinestone cowboy's instrumental
I fucking love that song man, one of my favorites.
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>>61326340
>it's not even DOOM it's some other guy
>some other guy

hardcore hustle is awful but what the fuck dude
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>>61325587
The entire thing is made of other artists work and you're trying to judge its quality?

>retarded millennials
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>>61328370
Collaboration isn't an excuse. Most albums a product of collaboration, to a greater extent hip-hop albums. You still endeavor to deliver a cohesive, tightly wound listening experience the whole way through.
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>>61328474
I was saying sampling takes almost no skill or creativity so it's shit anyways but w/e
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>>61326826
i hate that damn skit at the beginning
at least make it a different song so i can skip it
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>>61326001
wild guess, you could say he stay sedated
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>>61325587
Nah. I don't believe so.
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>>61325587
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>>61326434
Why does no one realize that that's his best
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>>61329214
I do anon
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Half ur moms pussy is filler. Fillered with my dick lol.
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tracks like sickfit and eye are beats lol... are you saying albums like donuts and shades of blue are 100% filler?
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>>61330543
and they are still great songs. the rest of the songs people think are filler are just skits which are very common in hip hop.

>>61326073
>a few lackluster samples
wat. youre just being picky
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1. The Illest Villains- skit
2. Accordion- great song
3. Meat Grinder- great song
4. Bistro- great interlude
5. Raid- - great song except the feature
6. America's Most Blunted- great song
7. Sickfit- great beat
8. Rainbows- - great song
9. Curls- great song
11. Money Folder- ok song
12. Shadows of Tomorrow. this is a good song desu
13. Operation Lifesaver AKA Mint Test- good song
14. Figaro- magnum opus tier
15. Hardcore Hustle- i prefer to pretend this song doesnt exist
16. Strange Ways- - great song
17. Fancy Clown- great song
18. Eye- great beat
20. All Caps- great song
21. Great Day- great song
22. Rhinestone Cowboy- great song

r we done here
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>>61326826
yup but not the case on madvillainy
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>>61329214
cuz it barely stands out from other 90s boombap while madvillainy is the greatest alternative hip hop album of all time
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Who king geedorah here.
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>>61331418
Victor Vaughn to be entirely frank
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>>61331418
We he spits electrics dont be in yall saunas
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>>61325964
he's saying you're being ridiculous.
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>>61325587
This is shit music m8
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>>61330741
>8. Rainbows- - great song
lol
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>>61332589
oh, they don't know
(they don't know, yo)
as much as he thinks they know
that's why he drinks drano
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>>61328594
By your standards I'm sure the overwhelming majority of stuff under the "pop" music umbrella would be considered worthless, so I'm not sure that point is very constructive here.
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>>61332849
>the overwhelming majority of stuff under the "pop" music umbrella

Like what?
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>>61332949
Anything electronic or sample-based, clearly. I would also assume most rock music would be too simplistic for your enlightened mind, since chord progressions are often recycled and a lot of it is simplistic blues-based stuff. If we want to base everything on "how hard is it to do" then I'm sure that would be taken into account.
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>>61333086
>taking the "sampling isn't creative" bait
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>>61326491
holy fuck you didn't even mention "doomsday"
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>>61326186
this and
>mfw Shadows of Tomorrow gets so much shit when it's my fav, gotta love that anxious and chopped delivery
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>>61328285
>being this surprised that there isn't always an overlap between Madvillainy fans and "real" hip-hop fans
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>>61326757
>t. my piping hot onions
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My issue with doom is he uses so many fucking skits. When he actually raps its great, but his albums are so fucking full of skits that I get tired of them.
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>>61330741

1. The Illest Villains - Skit
2. Accordion - Great Song
3. Meat Grinder - Good Song
4. Bistro - Interlude
5. Raid - Good Song, Great Beat
6. America's Most Blunted - Ok Song
7. Sickfit - Good Beat
8. Rainbows - Filler
9. Curls - Great Song
10. Do Not Fire - Boring Instrumental
11. Money Folder - Great Song
12. Shadows Of Tomorrow - Boring Redundant Shit
13. Operation Lifesaver - Ok Song
14. Figaro - Great Song
15. Hardcore Hustle - Bad Song
16. Strange Ways - Great Song
17. Fancy Clown - Great Song
18. Eye - Great Filler
19. Supervillain Theme - Filler
20. All Caps - Magnum Opus
21. Great Song
22. Rhinestone Cowboy - Great Song

Fixed that for you
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>>61326340
the instrumental should all be longer desu
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>>61325587
>doesn't have a hook
>"filler"

hop hop fans are shit listeners
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>>61326097

My nigga
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>>61331418
Me tvh f4m
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Why all the shadows of tomorrow hate I really like it :^(
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>>61328739
I'm stopping this lyric thread right here
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>>61338656
love you
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>>61326491
Doomsday
Gas Drawls
?
Hey!
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Operation Lifesaver is underrated desu
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>>61339378
True, but the instrumental is annoying
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>>61339407
what....? no way mate
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>>61339378
duuuude Operation Lifesaver is my favorite track on Madvillainy
>dat super dramatic sample
>dat comedy
>dat wordplay

>watch your three o'clock, a new recruit
>that's her gin and juicy-juice use a stick a juicy fruit
>fire in the hole
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>>61326399
This is going to sound stupid, but I view the album as the story of this maniacal supervillain. How he came to be, his origin stories, some of his day-to-day evil shit. When viewed that way, I enjoy the album a lot more.
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>>61340437
fag
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>>61339470
The juicy fruit line is one of my favorite parts of the whole album honestly. Just the way he says it.
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>>61326186
Why does everyone hate this song so much? Eye is worse.
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ur life is filler
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>>61326384
>I wish he rapped over sickfit.
wow no
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>>61337393
>19. Supervillain Theme - Filler
aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HOW
HOW CAN SOMEONE HAVE THIS OPINION
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>>61339368
I hope you're saying these are more highs of doomsday because these are all great tracks
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How do you do?
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YOGA FIRE

YOGA FLAME
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>>61326186
JUMP ON THE TRACK WITH THE HARDCORE HUSTLER
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>>61340877
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>>61325964
Arnold Palmer = Half /Half like the lemonade /ice tea. Thats my best guess
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>>61342457
Pretty sure that's just a reaction image of literally Arnold Palmer
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all of this album is shit
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FIGARO FIGARO !!
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>>61326340
Eye isn't an instrumental
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>>61325995
Vaudeville Villain
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>>61331418
PASS THE L, THE LAST TO TUSSEL IN THEM SHIRT TRAILS, ALL HAIL KING GEEDORAH, THE THIRD RAIL
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