Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada, Autechre, Squarepusher, Flying Lotus, Jon Hopkins...the list goes on!
Reccing this again
It's like if BOC was ten times less edgy.
Listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFTXLT8V1UM
If you keep making these, then I think maybe we should try to restrict discussion on the big 4. Nothing wrong with them, but they tend to dominate and they can all sustain their own threads.
Before anyone else gets in here I'm confirming this to be the best autechre album.
>>61300427
>BOC
>edgy
>>61300446
*3
BoC aren't IDM.
>>61300356
>tripfag whose name is a reference to LCD sounsystem
what a fag
>>61300427
1. hardly similar
2. lol edgy
pic related is a better rec for boc fans
>>61300509
I believe it's Autechre, Aphex Twin, Boards of Canada and Squarepusher
>>61300501
Technically, not really -more downtempo- but they're directly and contextually tied to the movement - you can't deny that. Just look how often they're brought up in these sorts of threads. Plus I think the Big 4 originally was referring to the biggest artists on Warp, not IDM.
>>61300509
Squarepusher, Autechre, Aphex, BoC (the other anon makes a good point, but BoC gets a lot of talk in these threads)
>>61300606
>Just look how often they're brought up in these sorts of threads
Like 4chan /mu/ is an authority or meaningful of literally anything.
I love almost everything Autechre has done, but the only album i can keep listening over and over is Oversteps.
What should i listen to? I've already listened to Amber, Tri Repetae, Confield, Garbage and Gantz Graf.
>>61300680
Please listen to Chaistic Slide if you haven't already.
>>61300594
what so we can discuss john hopkins but not aphex twin
>>61300646
They're usually lumped together in the category tho? Just doing a quick scan, Allmusic, RYM, Discogs, Simon Reynolds have all refered to them as IDM and they were even added to the mailing list. Read any article on the best "IDM Albums" and you're almost guaranteed to see MHTRTC there.
Not saying I necessarily agree with the classification, as I don't think BoC had anything to do with creating "alternate takes" on club/dance music like most IDM artists, but it's not just 4chan who labels them IDM.
>>61300733
No one is saying you can't discuss anything, just that it's a good opportunity to talk about lesser known artists (not referring to Jon Hopkins. As much as they grovel about him over there, he's /bleep/). I mean you could make an Aphex general and could prob have a successful thread yknow?
i'm enjoying VHS Head a lot today
feels slightly festive for some reason
>>61300356
I've been playing about with those fake Autechre Max/MSP patches recently
They're not perfect but they surprisingly still sound pretty good
This "Intelligent" Dance Music meme needs to end
>>61301101
stop saying it then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNXyUUsk2pw
first wave idm >>>>>
>>61300928
which ones? i believe one set was real. sean confirmed as much.
they're not very tidy with those patches, them autechre lads.
>>61301159
>first wave idm
my favorite new meme
bleep amirite XD epic jungle
>>61301159
I worked with a few sets, but I'm not sure which ones were legit
If we're talking about the same ones through, yeah, those are clusterfucks.
One was a tune from EP7, I believe
>>61301159
There's nothing "Intelligent" about Dance Music.
>>61301206
>>61301206
>>61301206
i have no idea what you're on about. when idm started out it had a distinct sound from the other "eras" that i liked. idc about how ""intelligent"" they sounded, lol.
>>61301194
this one. though now that i remember, sean said that it HAD been modified a fair bit. he said the original was still pretty fuckin messy tho
http://www.ilovecubus.co.uk/pete/powmod.png
intelligent dance music?
more like plagiarised jungle music by middle-class white people with expensive synths
>>61300427
>edgy
Campfire Headphase and A Beautiful Place are the comifiest things ever
>>61300434
One of my favorites from 2013
>>61301353
hahaha epic bro le jungle
THE CLUB XDDD "LADS"
lurk more newfaggot
What are some better or as good compilation albums the likes of pic related?
>>61300356
>tfw downloaded a bunch of Autechre before coming to my mom's for Christmas but only remembered my shit earbuds
Life is suffering
I've litened to the shit posted here and it all sounds like Dull Trance Music. Maybe consider a name change.
>>61301434
haHAHAHAHAH LE TRANCE LE ANGRY DUB TECHNO NIGGER
LMAO TRANCE XDDDDDDDD THE CLUB XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD early trance guyz xDDDD: )))))))))))
>>61301353
u know omni trio is white?
but yeah, i don't really listen to the jungle influenced idm stuff either desu, that's when it kind of took a turn for the worse imo.
>>61301464
>>61301376
calm down a little, pal.
>>61301464
I'll post comments that appear under songs in "The 100 greatest IDM Tracks" playlist on youtube to back up what I say.
>>61301525
lel what track is this?
i know its not really idm related but how good is shortbread
i bet boc like shortbread
>>61300474
it's very good and quite underrated but by no means their best
>>61301610
mmm, yeah. i like that it's not too sweet. i had some bangin' shortbread that had mini chocolate chips in it once.
>>61301188
>>61301376
>>61301464
take a chill pill buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PheS7KYsjBo
where are all idem producers so ugly
>>61300427
Have to take a look at this one. Am always on search for something new.
>>61301399
hum listened to AI II and wasn´t impressed but might be time that got roost on the sound
>>61300733
we need to just have afx/autechre threads to avoid the rest of the filth.
>>61301434
It just might not be your thing
>>61301773
AI II was..weird. IDK it's like they went super trance-y and all the energy from the og comp was zapped. I think the Ae, Beaumont Hannant and B12 joints were the only ones I liked desu. AI has aged better imo, tho both are dated
>>61301399
>>61300427
This album is fantastic. "Nothings of the North" has its moments as well.
Highly recommend this album
>>61301952
>>61301773
The retro-futurism of first wave IDM (or Electonic Listening Music or Ambient Techno or Acid House or Bleep Techno... call it w/e you get the idea) is precisely the reason it's the best version of IDM, tbhfmalam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F4QnvCPyMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dto_yNK9ue8
..\ML\
2002 - Everyone Looks Like Somebody Else
2004 - Good Morning
> some actually good IDM back in the days
http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/rzdNpy9x/file.html
Anyone have any Jair-Rohm Parker-Wells? I've been searching to no avail.
>>61302127
seems too obscure for YT, here's the only sample I could find
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0rQv3xnKP0
>>61300356
>>61300427
>>61300474
>>61302071
>>61302127
oh please... i followed the glitch / experimental electronic scene for a couple of years back when it seemed to be the coolest thing in the world (ironic) - i bought some records until i realized that it was always the same record over and over again, except for some very rare cases : Tim Hecker, GAS, Taylor Deupree's Still and Fennesz's Endless Summer - which i still regard as some of the most beautiful music made in the last decade.
I can remember when the first fenn'o'berg came out and no one liked it - bad reviews everywhere and probably it was one of the records that made me quit forever with this genre. It's funny to think about how the intelligent electronica and the arty glitch spread quickly among self proclaimed intellectual freshmen or dull art-students always living in the NOW and praising every alternative trend (the perfect INDIE climax)... i guess things didn't change that much as fenn'o'berg didn't change that much.
Again : LOL
>>61302091
i love first wave idm and the first ai comp, i just think the general songwriting wasn't so great on the second one. it probably didn't help that 1994 was kind of a turning point in both "IDM" and just dance music in general. funny if you just look at the staggering difference in 1993 and 1995.
>>61302210
okay
>>61302210
>Tim Hecker, GAS, Taylor Deupree's Still and Fennesz's
That's quite the diferent genre though, usually not associated with anything IDM was about.
>>61302210
hot opinion
>>61300427
>>61300557
>>61302071
The first half of the 00s was the worst moment in music, now i know it for sure.
All the old trends i was into in my golden youth were gone into the worst mutation possible : Ebm went Future Pop - Shoegaze disappeared - Post-punk disappeard - Industrial went Nine Inch Nails - Darkwave disappeared - Gothic went worse than the 90s, sad but true - The Ambient trend faded away (which was the best thing out of the 90s imho) into silly hybrids - Postrock had something nice to say in his own autistic way but the best things were in the 90s (with some exceptions) and Electronica went ... INTELLIGENT so i thought its spirit was forever lost.
The peak was reached when indie met warp : Radiohead's two indietronic albums.
I stuck to the past stronger than ever, waiting for better times to come.
Luckily at a certain point, people got sick of dance "intelligent" and i've never heard or read again "intelligent" names like Plaid or Telefon Tel Aviv (jeez... i saw an army of those Warp/Skam stupids when i was living in the UK because it seemed to be the coolest thing to do and all my friends were just crazy about the "intelligent" stuff and what they did was sitting behind a laptop and nodding with an "intelligent" face).
That IDM name still freezes my blood as the first time i read it.
And i'm pissed to read BOC quoted as similar to Oneohtrix Point Never (the first records of OPN, not the last one).
They aren't.
>>61302311
>BOC quoted as similar to Oneohtrix Point Never
Earlier BOC "home tapes" in the 80s-90s are basically proto-vaporwave (IYKWIT).
>>61302311
um okay
also plaid are rlly fun, seems like you're taking it all a bit seriously.
>>61302311
Plaid were great nigger
>>61302387
>were
RIP Plaid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Q9Fz09XVM
Rone anyone?
BEST AUTEcHRE IS GARBAGE (AS IN EP)
>>61302460
Nah, not even their best 90s ep
>>61302510
Anvil Vapre and Envane >>>>>
Nothing against Ambient Ae, but they're bboys and taggers at heart, and I like when they explore those hip-hop influences more.
>>61302374
Plaid were at their best when they were part of The Black Dog imo (same goes for The Black Dog itself)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3gZIViOrIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8seZlfhw4
people don't give them enough credit considering they were one of the pioneers of jungle and breakbeat hardcore music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPAw_fzsnkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMGP1KOrYKw
^ 1989 (!)
>>61302311
>>61302210
why are you pasting kodak_ghost reviews?
>>61302457
No one Rone?
>>61302311
Earlier BoC and Lopatin are vaporwave
I have 2 questions as a total newcomer to this genre:
1-Which album is a good gateway to IDM, which one is like the "In the court of the crimson king" equivalent to the genre?
2-Does IDM is music you can actually dance to in parties?
Thx
/bleep/ raid coming through
>>61304050
For introductory albums, try:
Autechre - Tri Repetae
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 - 92
But I can't really answer your second question.
>>61304050
depends what you mean by idm
if you include stuff like aphex and squarepusher then yeah, boc, i dunno maybe if a backpacker rhymed on it
>>61304090
Thx, i guess by listening to those albums ill find out the second question.
>>61304144
Thx, will check them
Without cheating and posting AFX - post IDM that's also sort of /bleep/
>>61304401
>IDM that's also sort of /bleep/
it's called first wave IDM
>>61304689
Well yeah, but I was hoping for some post 95 stuff
>>61304771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCYtENX0cWg
any late 90s-00 vocal uplifting trance man in
>>61302925
i agree. honestly i thought they were pretty solid until 2003.
Now that the dust has settled, what are people's opinion of this album?
![Autechre.garbage[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pHRpsGR.jpg "Autechre.garbage[1].jpg")
This right here is the creepiest, darkest yet best Autechre work I think.
Post glitch.
>>61301119
It was. Their name made me reluctant to listen at first but I was glad I gave it a chance.
>>61306550
not a fan of squarepusher in general but i felt like this was a new low
too digital, not enough high points and when they came it felt manufactured, overall the music was soulless
>>61306635
Been really into Matmos lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHl0F34Uhb0
>>61306551
This is alright but I dunno why everyone goes crazy over it. They have much better work imo. I'm sort of with >>61302561 here.
>>61306551
Vletrmx and Garbagemx are perfect opposites, one is signature Autechre IDM mastery, the other an absolute haunting simplistic ambient piece. Great EP
>>61306863
How can you not be a fan? Listen to Feed me Weird Things, Ultravisitor and Go Plastic.
>>61307022
holy shit I had no idea david pajo worked with them
>>61307077
ive listened to his entire catalog.,
tom seems more concerned with cutting amens and trying to be non-linear that he just puts out weak projects. sorry.
i prefer most of the rephlex guys, monolith, bogdan, bochum, wisp, etc
hell, i even prefer ceephax.
>>61300393
What are some non-entry level squarepusher-esque artists? Ultravisitor/Furies like stuff.
>>61304401
I much prefer his work under his name much more than Vaetxh desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOJixB_x_TA
not really /bleep/ but not really /idm/ - maybe /bloop/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb42GbADwZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiz0F8y8fQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NP8dREeXFo
also, if this was more bassy then it could pass for that style of the dubstep/bass music that was super prevalent during 2007-2010.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1QZJNqaIE
this is pure /bleep/ really, but it reminds me a bit of aphex + second bad vilbel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28rjdmi9Yao
is occult research even still relevant?
>>61307931
more than ever
>>61301738
(not true, by the way)
>>61301738
Ultravisitor era Squarepusher was a qt
Lets discuss why Oversteps is the best Autechre album
>>61308652
nah everything since seven trumpets is trash
the trackermatte album was the high point i feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTHV9s8myFY
>>61311157
they could have maybe trimmed it a bit near the end (redfall is kinda useless and krYlon ambles on a tad too long) but it's a great album. really like the dubstep influence on a few of the tracks (namely on st epreo).
What went wrong at Warp? Why have they been so irredeemably shit for so long?
So is this the best IDM album?
>>61313013
last i checked (2009-10) they had signed a bunch of forgettable indie artists. one of their anniversary box sets had a whole disc with shitty indie IDM covers
>>61313013
I did like that Kelela EP. The issue is that they aren't pushing any boundaries in their signings. OPN was a good move, but man, they should have been tying to snatch up the artists that PAN and Tri Angle and eMego and Room40 and Semantica and even SKAM are getting.
is there a chart or something for idm i listened to geogaddi and aphex twin's ambient stuff all pretty cool. need more basics.
>>61313034
That's acid techno.
>>61313283
autechre, mouse on mars, squarepusher, b12, biosphere, LFO, monolake, orbital, plaid, the black dog, venetian snares, FSOL
listen to those discographies and you'll already be a step ahead of the average idm pleb on here
>>61307671
how do you hear dubstep in that track?
>>61313984
Orbital and FSOL are not IDM
>>61313283
listen to the entire rephlex catalog. its incredibly underrated.
most of >>61313984 is below average entry level /mu/ shit that always gets mentioned here.
>>61302311
youtube comment tier right there m8
>>61315153
Which of those artists are below average?
>>61314927
close enough, whats worse is people sperging out over what is and isnt idm, if stuff like SAW 85-92 can be considered idm then i dont see why some of orbital's stuff cant
>>61315153
>implying half the stuff on rephlex is any better
>>61315486
>plaid
>mouse on mars
>plaid
>FSOL
>plaid
>plaid
>>61315614
The Black Dog is better than like 70% of Rephlex and I say that as a fan of the label.
>>61315614
>FSOL below average
>Venetian Snares not
shit taste
>>61315637
i personally dont really separate the two but to be fair black dog and plaid make different sorts of tunes.
>>61302210
>I was there when the first fenn'o'berg came out
>the kids are coming up from behind
>the kids from /mu/ and from /r/music
>but I'm losing my edge
>>61302210
>"always the same record over and over again"
I can't begin to fathom how retarded that is
>>61302460
this is true, Vletrmx reaches into my soul
>>61304401
Four Tet
>>61302210
This is is a pasta from kodak_ghosts rym but I have to laugh and wonder how he feels now that so-called "glitch / experimental electronic" music has had such a massive resurgence in popularity, lol. He sounds like he's about to have a mental breakdown just from the memory of how the scene affronted his sensibilities.
>>61315667
you obviously missed aarons magnum opus
>>61307671
porcupine is such a tune
http://www.factmag.com/2014/09/22/the-100-greatest-idm-tracks-100-51/
>>61316089
the top ten is very predictable, but still respectable i suppose. kinda surprised by that aphex choice.
Does anyone else really like that first Mira Calix album?
>>61300434
Probably one of the most underrated IDM albums
>>61316357
Its not IDM
>>61316089
>number 1 is a track that was made for raves
>>61316427
Then what is it? Krautrock?
>>61316476
Techno. just techno. Dance music. Techno.
>>61316441
Specifically and purposefully
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_%28EP%29
>>61316441
lol
>>61316441
Honestly it's just yet another example of the complete difference in perception and attitude of the press/record label owners pushing IDM vs the IDM artists themselves. One side thought rave music was silly and needed to be countered while the other held appreciation for it and would go so far as to defend it.
>>61317126
It was just the press really
>>61307669
ediT, machinedrum's earlier jazzier hiphoppy stuff like bidnezz, prefuse 73 - one word extinguisher, proem (anything from the late merck records), ochre, shigeto, flanger is really great and jazzy, check out inner space/outer space by them, really close to jazzy squarepusher
is oneohtrix point never idm? specifically the fall into time
is this idm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN-Qu0TrHWI
>>61315614
>pre- Varcharz Mouse on Mars
>pre-Spokes Plaid
>pre-Dead Cities FSOL
>below average
what the fuck anon.
>>61317886
That's IDM - Intelligent Drone Music
>>61315963
>aarons magnum opus
it's still shitty mallDM breakcore that has nothing to do in a civilized IDM general.
>>61315153
The Rephlex catalog is mostly crappy acid techno that's not worth one's attention though. SKAM and Planet Mu are much better labels with bigger variety than Rephlex, which is mad overrated.
>>61316089
wew at the top 4 being the big 4
>>61314907
It does sound a bit like newer Tempa stuff.
>>61316329
Yeah, it's good. I don't think I've heard anything else by her though.
Isn't she married to Sean Booth?
post obscure/underrated tunes, lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8rcZJaPhHw
>>61306550
It was really not that good. I've completely given up on him.
>>61319896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJsOwt3Wsro
>>61320298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fThqMCYGOxg
>>61319896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbBYwacudV4
forgotten classic from 1994
![yamaha-ry30-89497[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Xhn6wEJ.jpg "yamaha-ry30-89497[1].jpg")
>>61320298
Yamaha RY30 detected
>>61319896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxG5KSylevM
>>61306550
I kinda liked it, though there are way too much annoying sounds and details that almost ruin some tracks for me. Honestly, I'd give it no more than 6-6.5/10.
This doesn't mean that some tunes on this album aren't absolutely amazing.
Everybody share something from their collection on Mega that they think everyone should know!
Why did most IDM artists go to shit after 2005?
>>61320724
once IDM got a clear definition/a clear formula, the artists lost any sense of creativity whatsoever.
was it Genesis P. Orridge that said when genres become genres it is then that they die or sommit like that? he/she was right.
>>61320724
I'd say earlier than that. It was dead in the water imo by 2002/2003. Most of the stuff after was either derivative or shitty breakcore/breakcore inspired.
>>61320724
i bet all the ones you're thinking of were making some kind of fast music with breaks
that just became unfashionable for a while especially after grime happened
>>61320724
It just became too maximalist and sort or accelerated until there was really nothing left original to tap into. People just got sick of it and stopped caring about it and moved on to dubstep.
>>61320985
technically most former IDM fans moved on to the glitchy/minimal techno/microhouse camp curated by labels like Raster Noton & co., but even that scene eventually got dominated by second-rate releases and pretentious fanboys, i.e. what
>>61302210
>>61302311
says
is Tycho IDM?
>>61320763
>IDM got a clear definition
Oh right, whats that then?
>>61320763
>idm
>clear definition
>2005
i give up
>>61321095
orchestral samples on super fast breakbeats in odd time signatures that you get after hitting the randomize button on fruity loops
>>61321076
True on a lot of IDM fans moving to r-n, but I kind of meant the general public really. Those posts are a meme but they do share an attitude held by a lot of people in that by around 2004 people were sick of the sterile and subdued atmosphere in both experimental electronic music AND dance music. IDM, glitch, microhouse, minimal and ambient techno (mostly out of Germany) were what was big for so long that I think people were dying for something a bit dirtier.
>>61321132
That's breakcore, son
>>61321076
>>61321209
I hope the industrial techno/lo-fi house that's trendy right now eventually gets the 2005 IDM treatment, because frankly I'm fucking sick of it.
>>61321145
what is it? I like it
>>61321251
i made a playlist that just excludes all house and techno recently to detox
feels good desu
>>61321310
downtempo
>>61321209
>>61321076
Also, soz mate, I just realised that I pretty much said EXACTLY what you already did, lol. I should go to bed. But I meant that's part of why dubstep was so alluring to the dance scene and music press/GP
>>61321251
Same. Luckily people have already started to get a little sick of Lobster Theremin lol. I'm struggling to think of what will replace it though in terms of trends. Been seeing a lot of Tribal House popping up recently.
For industrial techno it really depends. I don't mind stuff like MORD but Marcel Dettman/certain Ostgun releases are so boring to me now.
>>61321324
I don't think I could do that desu. All I listen to nowadays is hip hop, bleeps, some bloops, Autechre, and dub. Maybe I'll only listen to dub for like 2 months. Or I'll finally go thru a bunk of funk and soul releases.
>>61321082
This is interesting. It basically poses the question; why is IDM IDM?
Why is music intelligent?
First of all, music isn't intelligent. Music is inanimate, people are intelligent (arguably). So the term IDM is basically saying; 'music made by intelligent people' Which is pretty arrogant, in a way... This is why I don't particularly like the term.
A very basic and, you could say, shallow definition of intelligence is very quantitative. A lot of measures, a lot of notes; a lot of information. While for me, 'intelligent' doesn't necessarily have anything to do with quantity. These simplistic definitions of 'intelligence' are, however, why a lot of music is called 'IDM', which is a bit ironic to me.
But over the years IDM has become a broader term (at least for me) and now encompasses not just easy to define musical characteristics, but also very subtle stylistic qualities. Like the bubbly melodies, emotive style, sound design choices and robotic sounding rhythms among many others.
tl;dr:
While traditionally I wouldn't say Tycho is IDM, stylistically it is in a lot of ways. Even more so, the simplicity makes it all the more 'intelligent'.
>>61321458
dude it's just a name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtZO2vgyIZY
thoughts?
>>61321473
A rose by any other name...
>>61321458
IDM has nothing to do with being "intelligent" honestly. You're buying into the marketing memes the press set up to sell music to "sophisticated" Americans. People focus too much on the "intelligent" part and not on the musical and stylistic roots the majority of IDM takes from and shares.
IDM is really hard to define, but one thing that most of the artists classified as IDM (save BoC - they were mostly included because of their association with Warp and Ae) have in common is that they are a varient of club music, and a varient of few genres of club music that was mostly popular from the late 80s and early 90s. If I HAD to sum up classic IDM in a sentence it would be "experimental club/dance music that can't actually be played at clubs." Tycho is more downtempo in that it pulls from hip-hop (Ae does too but they combine that with an electro/Detroit techno influence) and more of the "lounge-y" house music, it's not so nearly dance-minded. Of couse this debate is futile, as IDM is frustratingly vague, but I think people get too caught up in the name. Just my 2 cents.
>>61301101
How else would you describe this music
I hate the name too but all my favorite artists are always lumped under it so discussing it with people makes me feel like a music snob asshole.
IDM is the prog rock of electronic music; that's all there is to it.
>>61321792
Experimental Dance Music.
>but I think people get too caught up in the name.
Yeah, I see what you mean. It's just a name that basically describes a feeling you get from the music.
It's a bit like discussing rock music as if it has to have rock-like properties.
like
Rock music has to be loyal, steady, sturdy, trustworthy, always there, carrying the load, certain, constant, steadfast, sure and to be counted on. ayyy
But it is interesting to me, because people obviously chose to name the music 'intelligent' for a reason. Some of the reasons could be that it makes the listener feel smart, is being made by above average intelligent human beings, is structurally complicated, is complicated to execute, has intricate emotional qualities not comprehensible by a simpleton etc... The same qualities are found in a lot of music that came before IDM though but it was in the early 90's people invented the term IDM.
Maybe it's because dance music is often simple music, because if music gets too complicated an untrained dancer simply cant physically dance to it. The music was made with the same sounds, instruments and conventions of dance music, though, but just not as easy to dance too!
Also, the nerds sitting at home because they're bad at social interaction and couldn't dance had to have something to feel superior about :^)
>>61322107
meant for
>>61321715
>>61322107
My two cents is that everyone I know who listens to EDM is a drooling retard.
can someone explain to me why so many IDM tracks are pretty fucked up? like a lot of autechre's stuff which are seemingly just random characters, symbols and numbers
genuinely curious
>>61322319
sorry, meant "why so many IDM tracks' NAMES are so fucked up"
>>61322107
It's pretty well documented why they chose the term "intelligent" - it was to differentiate itself from the "stupid" Happy Hardcore and Rave music at the time. It was an advertising move, plain and simple. Which is funny seeing that many artists took from these "stupid" genres and were fans of them (well maybe not happy hardcore, but certainly rave). It wasn't about being smarter, it was about moving this music to a different setting and location (the home) and creating a different atmosphere out of the certain types of club music - they liked aspects of it but wanted to make it available outside of clubs to introverts who just wanted to sit around doing LSD, lol. IDM didn't even get super complex and complicated until around 1996/1997.
>>61322166
Theres more to ''electronic music'' than either EDM or IDM.
>>61322381
Yet Autechre wrote the Anti EP and Flutter specifically and purposefully yo be played at raves and thats become one of the most well known ''IDM'' tracks.
can we all just take a minute to recognise how fucking good this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw0chqZKByE
>>61322519
fuck yes, one of his best tracks.
Tundra and Tundra 4 are so fucking amazing too.
>>61322593
not a fan of WATMM & their community but kudos for the fun q&a
>>61322382
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THANK YOU
>>61322382
I did some work with this guy that does "electronic music" in the sense that he uses electronics to amplify aspects of organic instruments that are otherwise indiscernible, e.g., tapping on the holes of a flute or clarinet, and writes music like that
>>61322415
>>61322593
Have you read this interview? It's pretty recent and in one part Sean kind of goes in to why they started making "IDM." It's an interesting perspective, and one that kind sums up what the genre was maybe trying to do originally. Theres an obvious appreciation for dance music there, they just wanted to explore some of the weirder parts of it.
http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2015-10-08/autechre-melts-idm/
>>61322654
Isn't that called lowercase music?
>muh big 4
Autechre = techno
Squarepusher = future jazz
Boards of Canada = downtempo
Aphex Twin = ambient techno and/or jungle
>>61322382
>>61322631
>>61322654
Also Tipper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxyETNQOiOo
also this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWr9ZLVE2s
>>61322688
Yeah, pretty much.
>>61322669
>http://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/music/2015-10-08/autechre-melts-idm/
cheers for posting m8
>>61322676
not according to the guy that makes it
I mean he also uses some very basic synths
you should see his fucking notation for the shit he does
>>61322688
Autechre = b-boys doing graffiti-abstract techno
Squarepusher = a jazzist's take on jungle and drum and bass music
BoC = new age nostalgia for the trip-hop/downtempo generation
Aphex = some bum from Cornwall doing a little bit of everything from the above
>>61322788
>nostalgia for the trip-hop/downtempo generation
So no one on /mu/ then.
>>61322822
well, yeah
>>61322822
turny
>>61322778
Share some links bruh, I want to see what he makes.
>>61315963
that is not my downfall
>>61322669
>I really would not like to be coming up right now. If we just arrived and we were doing music at 19 again, honestly, no one would notice what we were doing. I’m pretty sure of that. Not because it’s musically more different, but purely because of the numbers involved. It’s really hard to get people’s attention for more than five minutes. It’s getting to the point where it’s almost pointless to put releases out. You work on something for two years and then it will get tweeted for a few days. It can be pretty fucking soul-destroying.
whos your idm husbando
>>61322688
lol yeah people are always like, "well what would we call the artists if not IDM?" and honestly the answer is pretty simple.
>>61322969
AOTY 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPG5gUNtDk
>>61322788
I love these descriptions tbqh
Argh I'm trying to remember the name of this IDM artist who somehow eluded me that an anon shared in an old thread - I think they started with S and was 4 or 5 letters. A really basic word like Spin or something... any guesses?
>>61326114
Ah never mind, got it, it was Spooky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEkexR_7qL8
>>61322969
Coziest picture, can just imagine them both drinking tea, smoking spliffs in the morning making tracks, god if my life is a 10th as good as that I'll be happy.
>>61321223
IDM pretty much subsumed Breakcore in the 2000s
Any notable releases on the horizon for 2016?
>>61328808
Melodies from Mars :)
>>61306551
The textures on Garbagemx always reminded me of a dub techno track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbI20_9ay1k
>>61331183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bSb-No790w
>>61331274
steinvord is clearly skrillex
>>61331235
nice, this is pure mills
>>61300356
I just have a question OP, how could someone who is happy with his life, enjoy listening to aphex twin
>>61331312
really? do you have an image macro to back that up kiddo?
>>61319823
No, they've been divorced for a while now.
>>61331388
Lol bait harder senpai. Trying to think of a few tracks which are impossible to dislike for any reason whatsoever. Goon Gumpas, Avril 14th, Rhubarb, Lichen, Xtal, Alberto Balsalm... the list goes on. Conclusion, you are RETARDED.
>>61300474
Whoops, I think you meant to post LP5! Happens to the best of us.
>>61301206
there's nothing intelligent about this comment amirite
>>61331646
>diagnoses someone with a disability over subjective differences
good luck in life mate
>>61331646
all those people look aimless aha
>>61322969
you posted him senpai
>>61332387
Ricardo up front, Squarepusher standing behind, and young Ceephax in the back wearing red. That picture is an IDM goldmine.
I really want to listen to more stuff like Oversteps.
Really loving this short catchy songs.
Is there anything ae that sounds the same?
>>61332680
Try Move of Ten.
autechre is just straight arca
Latest and greatest IDM tune:
https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/t17-phase-out
https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/t17-phase-out
https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/t17-phase-out
>>61335034
woops i don't like this one at all :X
still love ya rich
>>61335034
sounds like an autechre tune
>>61335034
>downloads not enabled
dang it rich
>>61335649
http://anything2mp3.com/
Whack the URL in here, ez download.
post idm artists who are flaming homos
>>61336263
>>61318310
actually if we were to generalize the rephlex catalog is split b/w experimental electro and acid techno
the rephlex-styled electro stuff is ace but I'm not feeling their acid techno stuff either
>>61336512
acid techno is frequently pretty wank desu. acid house, on the other hand.
>>61332614
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1Xl1RwV5W71
>>61336319
actually tru
great album lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utep6Hhp2a8
>>61321715
>tycho
>pulls from hip-hop
nice fucking prank guy
