Can music be as intellectually deep and complex as philosophy can?
Yes.
Can art be as science as science?
>>61261929
spooks
Yes
See: Barter 6
>>61261929
>write a philosophical summa
>sing it
>????
>profit
Here you go senpai
>still believing philosophy in an age of science advancements and common sense
ok KID I suggest sell your useless philosophy books for actual money
>inb4 muh knowledge
Who is the musical equivalence of Wittgenstein
>>61261995
You have no idea how philosophy works, do you?
Not sure about music, but Heidegger says that poetry can (and actually it is a better way to approach it)
>>61261929
More so actually, especially if it has no lyrics
>>61262009
stockhausen
>>61262011
Okay KID
>>61261995
>money pussy & w33d
>cash. rules. everything. around. me. xd.
>>61262009
Jandek
>>61261995
Science is philosophy
>>61262009
>>61261929
If we're talking about some Beethoven-tier shit, yes.
>>61262031
Could be. Stockhausen had a tragic background didn't he....
>>61262059
Just no.
>>61262063
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA can't wait for the fellas at /sci/ see this
>>61262078
he meditates on language in a similar way in his lyrics
Music can be complex, but it's not intellectual at all. No melody or rhythm or other arrangement of sounds contains thoughts by itself.
>>61262009
Scooter obviously.
>>61261995
>>61262037
whoa dude that's some hard memeing going on here
>>61262037
>is underage
>calls people "kids"
>mfw
>>61262115
The only DEAD STALE meme here is philosophy
>>61262106
>No melody or rhythm or other arrangement of sounds contains thoughts by itself
They do inspire thoughts and mental imagery though
>>61262088
Why should they believe you, you're ADOLF HITLER.
>>61261995
>rejects philosophy
It shows. You can't even argue properly.
>>61261995
jesus what year is it
Depends on the music
>>61262031
>>61262059
>>61262078
Have you idiots ever read Wittgenstein or listened to any art music whatsoever?
It's either Webern, Hindemith or neoclassical Stravinsky.
>>61262150
>>61262156
>>61262159
JESUS CHRIST
Sure is entry level art school literature buffs in here. Get OUT neo-/mu/. No one here likes you.
>>61262197
why?
>>61261929
can a hurr be a durr?
>>61262197
why?
>>61262197
I can't even think of why wittgenstein would be art music, let alone those artists
>>61262240
>>61262213
If they say why why...tell that it's human nature.
>>61262197
So some prime examples of modernism such as Webern, Hindemith and Stravinsky are comparable to Witty, whose later work is the foundation of postmodernism and actually opposed to the dominant logic positivism associated with modernism?
You are the one who's wrong here
>>61262201
>neo-/mu/
I've been posting here since you weren't even born.
>>61262323
Wittenstein saw philosophy as a sort of language game. Those three might be said to have had a similar opinion about music.
bach > plato + socrates combined
this is pretty obvious though
Why would we expect music to be intellectually similar to philosophy ....? Not worth comparing imho senpai
>>61262009
Bartok or one of the modernists desu
>>61261945
underated post
>>61261995
People often say it as a meaningless insult, but you are literally reddit incarnate
dirty positivist
>>61261945
did the man who invented college go to college?
>>61261929
Music is philosophy in some way
Read schopenhauer
It is faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1QjkhENZg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Wo4lTTF_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcuW9b0zwo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkaOz48cq2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzAFalLbXxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc-nf9f-rsk
