Blue edition
Talk about how your mixing is shit, and insult other people's musical aptitude.
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http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q (embed)
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http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.
Learn how to get rare lunga memes, why /prod/ucers just wait for someone to make the thread and why I always copy the OP from a dead thread and change some of the words.
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>lunga and op text
you're doing god's work anon
now hopefully this thread actually picks up
i'm in a horrible thread right now where people are arguing that this song has better production than run the jewels 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyCTZ8c-trc
How am I doing /prod/
https://clyp.it/0j3hlocn
>>61007645
a little muddy and noisy but it's not a bad start
>>61007565
Bitch should've gone worked full time because that is shit. Some of the tracks like this would be alright if they were just instrumentals.
I want to add some vocals to this but don't know what to add in.
https://clyp.it/2aykcndc
>>61007862
liking the drums a lot, i would turn down the synths a bit and the bass guitar up a bit, maybe add some beat repeats or other effects on some of the repetitions of the "gangsta" sample but other than that it's pretty nice
>>61007190
>>61007387
Bout time.
Sunday evening /prod/ing. Whats everyone working on?
I'm just messing about with my Volca Bass and sending it through my Spacew Echo trying to get some nice sounds to sample.
WHY DO THESE KICKS SOUND SO SHITTY
https://clyp.it/2ajpzqj2
>>61008379
sounds like sailor moon background music
>>61008438
"no"
>>61008358
im making some drums out of the sound of an empty wrapping paper tube hitting stuff
>>61008491
How'd they sound? I used to record loads of my stuff from found sound, haven't done that in a while though
>>61007565
This is so generic. Holy fuck music shouldn't be like this. the idea that someone likes this actually makes me upset.
>>61008648
i'm not very far into it yet, still working on the first sound
here it is at 5 different octaves, i think the second lowest one is probably sounding the best right now
https://clyp.it/p2ug4hty
>>61007645
Sync that bass and percussion a bit better, come up with a more present synth, structure the song with a build up, slowly adding in instruments and teasing a climax, then payoff with that bass groove and a simple four-to-the-floor dance beat
>>61007862
That sounds pretty solid, though may I suggest a half-time portion somewhere in the composition?
>>61008379
They aren't that loud, for one.
Alternatively, you can use a delay effect with the delay at 0ms and offset the delay so the thump occupies both ears as opposed to sharing the center with your bass.
https://clyp.it/vnfhf5jm
I am also in need of critique
>>61008796
Compress the first one and eq it until it sounds good. The last one would work as percussion.
>>61008828
I assume your track hasn't been mixed yet?
I think you should change the snare.
Don't know where else to post this:
What do you think the slash chords on this are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erqpdc9W8F8
I have D/F to Emi/G, then I think G/B and then G?
>>61008796
cool recon the kicks would sound good with a load of compression and a wee bit of reverb on them.
Anyone use Reaktor here? just getting into learning a bit from it
>>61008952
I'm still in the midst of eq-ing, actually. Is there anything else I should change?
>>61008894
went a few steps higher than the first one and did some compressing/eqing/other stuff, here's where it's at now. i think it's coming along alright
https://clyp.it/qk3rzoev
https://clyp.it/tx5tm2wy
R8 my track, I need constructive criticism. Vocals for this may come soon
>>61009254
You have a solid set of samples, but they seem a bit jumbled. Other than that, your piece sounds like a bad acid trip
bumping with clyp
https://clyp.it/pfkgdnrg
a thing I am working on
>>61009945
S'not bad at all
What tempo do most of you guys use I've been sticking around 80 for the longest time
>>61010411
95 or 110
I have no idea why
>>61010411
80-94 usually. I like it slow
>>61010411
93bpm because lolbirthyear
>>61010411
same, like 90 percent of my stuff is between 70 and 90
I always get out of control with adding new layers without being competent enough to mix it.
just added the synth organ and now Im thinking of adding guitar in the mix. should I keep adding or start simplifying?
https://clyp.it/ul3mhlvz
>>61008379
COMPRESS that kick m8
and what are you using synthesis or samples? cause either way, you're gonna have to study that shit some more
>>61010684
>https://clyp.it/ul3mhlvz
sounds pretty chill, I think you could add a bit more to it maybe and turn the drums up a bit as they seem really quiet?
Bumping.
Anyone here actually do studio work, or are people here mainly synth and daw enthusiasts
>>61010684
You'll get away with more layers if you give them space spectrally, a little panning won't hurt in that respect too.
The main thing that's happening right now is that the whole thing sounds squashed - there's really obvious pumping going on like a sidechain with the threshold set too low.
At the composition stage you don't need that - add your elements first and then carefully sidechain if you have elements that you can't separate with EQ cuts.
https://clyp.it/vnfhf5jm
Can I get a bit more critique on this?
>>61010763
cool nice to hear from fresh ears
>>61010970
Thanks for the tips, man.
Are there any norms in panning or can I just put higher frequency stuff a little to the left, and bass to the right for instance?
Youre right about the sidechaining, I overdo it every time as a cheap and bad way to keep my tracks somewhat under control when everything starts to get out of hand
>>61011155
oh wait, I just realized if I want to separate tracks playing in the same frequency range, obviously I wouldnt want to pan them in the same direction. So I think I got it?
How do I get an effect to only be active for one "strum"?
Like, I have a guitar part that's mostly G/Gsus2 chords, and after the switch from sus2 back to G, I want that G to have a reverse reverb on it.
The only idea I have is either good timing, like turning the FX loop on for that track just for that note and then turning it off, that way the FX-input would only have the one G chord going in.
Or my other idea was to record the two chords and sequence them, then just have a separate track for the singular G chord and mix them together.
What do, /mu/?
>>61011155
I tend to try to balance frequencies left and right, so if you have two elements occupying the same bands you'd pan one slightly left and the other slightly right - cymbals and percussion you can do the same with too, split some sounds to each side.
Bass frequencies I keep pretty central but if they have a higher frequency content too you could use some M/S to send the higher bands to the sides.
>>61010411
When I practice, I use really slow tempos like 20-30bpm and just increase my notes from like 8th to 16th or something (It depends, I need to do the math for it each time)
It helps with playing in time better and improves accuracy for when you move up to 4th notes and like 80bpm or something, makes falling 'into the pocket' a lot easier/more natural.
For writing, generally between 70 and 120, it depends.
>>61011257
Hmm... you may just have to have good timing. Are you using computer effects or foot pedals?
>>61010684
That groove sounds like sex
>>61011257
I usually go for separate tracks and end up using the effects track again later on. automation is probably the most effective and least resource intensive, but Im not so good at managing it
>>61011257
You could use an expander on your send with a frequency-conscious sidechain so it opens more and sends more signal to the effect at a chosen frequency.
A gate used with the same technique could be used to completely exclude all effect send except for your chosen frequency.
>>61011257
Can you record it into your DAW naked and then automate the effect to just affect the parts you want?
>>61011429
Not the chord guy, but if he is using a DAW this would be very easy to do
>lunga op
>thread doesn't die instantly
is there a correlation?
>>61010921
most people probably produce from home here
there are a few people who do work in studio im sure though
>>61011445
Not so easy otherwise I'm guessing as I'm a DAW guy.
>>61011493
>>lunga op
>>thread doesn't die instantly
>is there a correlation?
I think so, seems like for a while now the prod threads seem to be started by trolls or 14 year olds. This thread seems to be going well and on point so far. I'm not OP by the way.
>>61011318
Rack based effects, it's a yamaha SPX900, but i have the pedal version (magicstomp v1 with the same patches)
I'm not too knowledgable about midi, but I was also considering using a MIDI trigger of sorts.
>>61011385
So if I use the gate on my quadraverb and chain it before the SPX900 and use something like a volume pedal to trigger the gate for a certain volume, would that work?
>>61011429
I don't DAW, my computer can't run one (compaq presario from 1997 running damn small linux), using a tascam 424 and sansui ws-x1 synced together
>>61011541
I'm going to school for audio production/studio techniques or whatever it would be called in a few years, so hopefully I'll be working at one in the next 5 years.
Trying to finish an album before that though, just to have something under my belt I guess.
![Compaq%20plll%20reformated%20ready%20for%20use%20150[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9qLq4I8.jpg "Compaq%20plll%20reformated%20ready%20for%20use%20150[1].jpg")
>>61011598
>compaq presario from 1997
man I have one of these in my room except it doesn't work anymore
>>61011598
>I don't DAW, my computer can't run one (compaq presario from 1997 running damn small linux), using a tascam 424 and sansui ws-x1 synced together
ok, can't you record the chord you want the reverse reverb on a separate track on your tascam and just have the effect on that channel AUX?
>/mu/ suddenly hates Bitwig
What happened?
>>61011706
I don't hate bitwig but I woldnt recommend it to someone because how new it is
only if someone uses Linux and wants advice on daw I say bitwig to them
>>61011706
/prod/ likes bitwig. enjoy your stay.
>>61011671
I mean, I guess. I'm just usually hesitant to do something unless I absolutely need to since it takes up a track. Then again, I can just record over it anyway. The only problem is sometimes the note is "ghosted" in after recording over.
>>61011735
Have you tried the guitar general, they might be a bit more suited to your question as most people here work with DAWs I'd imagine
>>61011706
>what happened
it got released and took about a year for everyone realize it was overhyped
>>61011706
you're the only one in this thread to even bring it up, what are you talking about?
https://clyp.it/dbvuelc1
hlep /mu/
>>61011598
>compaq presario from 1997 running damn small linux
is it like a thing youre doing for fun? I mean you probably know that you could scrape together the components for a 2007 computer for like 200 bucks or less. maybe for free
>>61010411
116-132
>>61010411
105-122
>>61012257
I mean, it's powerful enough to pay bills, check emails, and browse 4chan, so I guess it works. I have a roku with my old roommates netflix on it too, so that's fun.
I'd buy a new computer, but some of my drug habits get in the way of having spending money.
>>61012199
Maybe pull the vocal-y sample back a bit off the grid, it feels like it's pushing the tempo. Sounds cool though.
How do you guys compose basslines? I always end up spacing three notes apart by 2 16ths somewhere in the bar, IE 1,4 and 7.
>>61012783
I usually make it sound like it's rubbing/humping/caressing the drums and guitar at the same time, like a middle-ground of sorts.
Just goes like 'shhheewooowasho" all up in their space. The bass should be their to pop the 'personal space bubble' of the other instruments.
>>61012783
it really depends on what style of music youre making for
>>61011598
>sansui ws-x1
Holy shit - I used to have a MR-6/MX-12 combo with the sync box, sold it last year, but didn't realise that you're mostly hardware-based, hence >>61011385 as I expected you to be using a DAW.
I can't remember if the Quadraverb has a filter on the gate's sidechain - does it?
If it does then yeah you could use that to only open on a specific frequency and send to the SPX.
Good work on still using tape too man - I just don't have the space any more to use it although I still have a rack with synths and outboard FX with a patchbay to route stuff when needed.
>>61012915
>filter on the gate's sidechain
I'll be honest that I don't know what that means, my vocabulary/know-how is pretty limited 2bqh
I can explain what I think it means with what I said about the quadraverb to the spx
On the quadraverb the gate setting is basically a trigger based off of input volume, so that it won't output anything until it hits that mark. So if I make a patch with the gate at just below my recording volume, then have an empty effect/no effect preset (so it outputs the dry signal after the gate is triggered), then the dry signal will go to the the spx
So like, I'll go volume pedal (up all the way so no volume) > quadraverb gate patch > spx900
and when that note's about to hit, I'll just press down on the volume pedal so the gate activates.
Is that what you mean by filter on the sidechain? Or by frequency do you mean specific EQ frequencies that trigger the gate?
And yeah, I love using tape. It's tedious at times, but it pretty much forces me to find creative ways to solve problems.
>>61012783
Depend of the genre
They usually should complement / mix well with the drums
Dalek-like noise-hop again
I have trouble making my drums sounding more aggressive since i'm usually a quiet and peaceful guy
Opinions, advice ?
https://clyp.it/yllbx45c
>>61010495
70-85/120-180
I make a lot of shit. Breakcore and hardcore happen when harder drugs. Dub, experimental bass, stoner shit like that happens. Different settings for producing influence me, I've been taking my laptop places and just producing a lot. Pretty fun fucking about with tempo desu
>>61013575
Could use a grittier kick with more midrange, maybe use a different snare during the breakdown or put some distortion on it. Or a short gate with a fast release to make it smack. As a whole it could use a lot more high range though, it's lacking air. The kick and the bass are also really fighting it out tonally. Either the kick or bass could use more grind so when they play together they complete each other.
So I looked at the pastebin but nothing seemed to help. I play guitar, piano, and can somewhat sing. I want to make my own songs but I can't make a decent drum track to go along with my guitar parts and stuff at all. I listen to all of my favorite bands and attempt to copy their drums but whenever I end up trying to convert it into Mixcraft it only comes out as feeling mechanic. Anyone have ideas or advice for working on this?
>>61010411
120, I usually don't go an higher than 140, even 140 is rare for me nowadays, and when I go below 120 it's because I want a more 'chill' feeling, so I arbitrarily pick a number like 116 or 108.
>>61013987
Thanks anon
Tried to move forward
https://clyp.it/1wvsaens
>>61014314
>Feeling mechanic
Post an example but you might want tu put some variation on the velocity of the drums to make it sound more human.
>>61014392
I've started moving the velocity on hits and stuff and it sounds a bit better but I just can't seem to make drum tracks that mesh well with my guitar parts. Is it because I wrote the guitar parts first? I would post an example but it's so awful I'd really rather not.
Hey, newb here. Can I get some feedback on these works in progress I made to practice? I feel like my tracks are way too sterile and lack any sort of power or drive behind them. Maybe my approach is just wrong, but idk, maybe you guys can help me.
https://clyp.it/5otheij2
https://clyp.it/a11yo2qu
>>61013218
Yeah that would work for you, you could just use the volume pedal by itself on the send to get the same effect too.
What I was thinking is this: Dedicated gates and compressors use a sidechain to detect signal input levels - the sidechain isn't part of the audio signal chain it's just there to trigger the device, like an internal send so-to-speak but with no return attached.
Most of these devices have what's called a key input and this is what's used in DAWs when effects are sidechained - the key input is a direct link to the gate or compressor's level detection circuit - its sidechain - and you can plug anything you like into it, so you can use drums to trigger a gate that acts on a vocal or a bass - the commonly-used sidechain stuff everyone talks about.
What most hardware also has is an audio filter attached to this key input, so if you used say a high-pass filter on the sidechain low-frequency notes like kick drums wouldn't trigger it, but something like hi-hats would.
>>61014489
I don't know, what genre is it?
Half of the suff posted here is awful i have posted some awfully bad tracks in thread like these myself
>>61014887
Twinkly math rock kind of stuff. At least those seem to be the types of guitar parts I usually write. I'm pretty new to producing shit in general and making a decent drum track has been one of the main reasons I haven't even finished a track.
>>61014489
I know that struggle well, man. Its just really, really hard to program organic sounding drums. I dont think anything other than experimentation will make you better.
This track is stiff and mechanic sounding in general, which makes it even more difficult. I usually try to record my basic drum beat (kick, snare, a couple of hats) from my keyboard with a click track, then I might arrange it slightly, but I definitely dont quantize. Then I expand on that base loop by just clicking in hits in the midi track. Thats one way to make it less mechanical. Another is to apply swing, Im not familiar with that, never could control/understand it very well
Been working on this since yesterday, I hit the point where I've been listening to it for so long that I can't critique it objectively anymore. I don't know how well it works stylistically. Haven't done much mixing either.
https://clyp.it/e1adrh2h
The ending's a placeholder for now, the last thirty seconds sound really weak so I'm trying to figure out what I can do with it.
>>61008358
Tweaking synths.
https://clyp.it/rjn1vdts is something I've been sitting on for a few days. Someone brought up bitwig, and incidentally - that's what it's made on. Sucks not having too much plugins on linux though.
>>61010411
135-145 senpai.
>>61010684
That's pretty nice, I say keep adding but also distribute it in time.
>>61011727
It also got a fair share of issues. There are some nasty export problems with Polysynth. And still no phaser or spectrum analyser.
>>61010973
The snare and kick are way too loud.
It's also pretty boring structurally, not too much going on besides that voice thing.
>>61015169
that good shit senpai
I like trance music but im not so good at making it yet
>>61014939
Don't be shy and boast trackz
>>61015169
>https://clyp.it/rjn1vdts
Quite nice and i don't even like trance
>>61014665
Compression, equalizers and automation
https://clyp.it/mdm0j3ld
If it's not too much trouble, I'd like some feedback on this thing I made a couple days ago, as well as some insight into what genre it best fits into (i've been calling it trance but idk if that's right)
>>61015169
https://clyp.it/rjn1vdts
holy shit
>>61015229
Three words: multiband on everything. It's literally magic.
Also, thanks.
>>61015334
Thanks senpai. There's still not much going on, I've been mostly tweaking knobs and trying to get some solid timbres. Still gotta add some pads to fill it out. I hate making pads.
>>61015395
the synths are really drowning the drums out for one
I'd call it trance too but that's because I'm uncultured
https://clyp.it/o1zmkv2u
I did this in like an hour, what do
>>61015519
Study mixing because those synths are way too loud and are clipping
>>61010411
Usually 160-170 since I like DnB, but I 80 is also cool too in general. Nice because you can use some of the parts at either BPM interchangeably.
>>61014939
As well as what >>61014965 said, midi files.
Try to find midi files online (there are good and some really shit resources) and look at the drum parts of the ones that you think nail it. See what they're doing to sound good - are they varying velocities like a live drummer would (I've sometimes found that using left-hand/right-hand visualization of the drum hits works well for fills, even though most drummers try hard to even these out) and listen to what the drums are being accentuated on, like specific guitar phrases, bass guitar phrases for the kicks etc. Timing too - what sounds bang-on in the mix sounds pretty disjointed when solo-d because the drummer is shifting timing to match music that might be slightly behind the beat for looseness or slightly ahead for urgency.
Even picking a genre that you don't play will make you concentrate on the sounds more - for example there are loads of prog rock midi files around that get pretty close to stuff that Phil Collins and Neil Peart do - not soundwise but in terms of their chops.
>>61015618
>in an hour
I just maximized it real quick with a preset I use to show people.
Plus, they really aren't. What's clipping is the percussion and the bass synth, but that's quite normal. I intend to eq everything better though, yes.
see: any BoC song and any 2000+ Aphex Twin song
>>61015456
Awesome, thanks for the insights. I always seem to have trouble making the drums stand out.
>>61015519
I dont know, the whole thing sounds pretty cheezy to me.
https://clyp.it/wn4ywwyb
Would love some critizism on this. Its not done but at least for what it is or could be.
>>61015671
a bass synth is still a synth, so how can you say that your synths aren't clipping
>>61015707
how so
>>61015726
synth(s), little bit of clipping is fine though honestly. I like the sound Aphex did with his latest album, shit ton of clipping.
>>61015726
Oh, what you're hearing is probably the bitcrushers everywhere. Yea, I'm removing the opening synths don't worry, I forgot the opening was even there.
I've been trying to make a dreampop song with a distorted edge to it. this is what I have so far:
https://clyp.it/gqlzzqu0
not sure how i feel about the verses' beat and chord progression. thoughts?
>>61008358
Trying to learn to use samples like the Alchemist
...
https://clyp.it/repc0fqg
>>61010411
60-130
>>61015048
Progresses well and stays interesting, but I don't think the synths compliment the bass very well.
Also, the climax of the song at 1:16 falls flat because it's already so busy. I would drop the bass out completely like 2 bars before this.
And the chirpy hat that shows up at :51 should be cut.
>>61015519
Sounds pretty nice, maybe add a higher register arp that moves around the stereo field. Personally not a fan of the flams, but that's up to you.
>>61015707
Sounds good. I think you're clipping, because the distortion leaks into the main riff sometimes and it sounds shitty. If that's on purpose, I'd still change it. And make the snare a little louder.
>>61015707
the bass synth sounds a little too distorted, lower the crushing?
>>61015752
its hard to get synthwave right, if thats what your even going for but it does seem to take influence from synthwave artists like com truise given the combination of "live" drums and synths .
>>61015827
Yes, I agree with higher arp panning out the field. I haven't really played with stereo imaging on this yet, only an hour :(.
What do you mean by flams? the bass wave? I might re-do it. It's super demo-y rn. If I do re-do them do you think I should go for a lfo wobble bass still or a melodic bass line?
>>61015864
I've never listened to com truise, I know of him though. Should I listen to him?
I honestly don't know what I'm doing rn, just messing around. My EP is pretty ambient and relaxing, sort of vali-ish but with synths, so I wanted to do a bombastic (but not outright dance) song this time around.
>>61015904
yea you should defs listen to com truise cuz its right up that alley
>>61015904
yes im not that guy you replied to but com truise is the shit
>>61015829
>>61015904
Aite, will do. Im goin for that clams casino level of distortion but maybe its too much. Thanks for the tip
>>61015875
The flam is the snare, which is actually two hits very close together.
Probably stick with melodic.
>>61015921
https://clyp.it/cddb1pvj here's another demo from my EP and this is probably the closest to dance on it so far. Does this sound like Com?
>>61015952
I never knew there was a term for that, I just did it there cause I liked the rock-ish vibe it has. Thanks for broadening my vocab in percussion
>>61015952
>>61015970
I use groove agent for drums and it has options for flam to use on your drum samples and I think it sounds real nice compared to manually programming it in
>>61015953
Pretty clean sounding, dude.
>>61015953
is good bruv
>>61015827
bump, please?
>>61016271
bump. just for you.
What's happening /prod/?
>>61014965
>>61015649
Thanks for the help guys. I'll look more into this and keep trying.
>>61015231
So I quickly recorded some guitar parts and tried to match drums to them but after an hour of trying I couldn't find any combination that worked well. I'll post the guitar track though maybe an example would help me in the future. In fact I'm so bad at recording that I don't think I even recorded my guitar correctly. Seems much stronger on the right channel for some reason.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LPSgP910NI
>>61018389
good
Tried my hand at vaporwave tonight being extremely bored. I tried to go off of Local News' style as I really like the aesthetic and sound much more than Mac Plus' even though I love Floral Shoppe.
https://clyp.it/vrsndu0e
https://clyp.it/sulqvz2p
i dont know why i've been using the wavestation vst as my go to for cheesy 80s presets all this time, the m1 is so much better
>>61018720
Duh, cause the wave station is for your 90's rainforest journey by holding down one key sounds, not your cheesy 80s presets.
>>61007683
Its not lining up well, the time is fucked up
made some footworky shit with a megaman sample, what does it need /prod/?
https://clyp.it/ba1ckfd5
>>61009945
This shits dope bro. Kinda has that Justice vibe going on
>>61015801
any opinions, advice at all?
>>61015801
>>61020058
Sounds pretty clean. Only advice I'd offer is to maybe turn the high hat down a bit.
>>61015801
I don't really like it as a song, not because it's bad musically, but it's just not my style, otherwise the mix sounds nice, and the sounds are neat.
I'm in the process of cleaning this up/mixing (bass has gotta go down). Besides recording the drums live what do y'all think?
https://clyp.it/ixqyb1qm
>>61020118
>>61020165
Thank you very much! I turned down the high hat a little.
need a versatile external reverb/delay unit for drums. want to move away from VSTs, as least as much as possible
not necessarily looking for PERFECT sound, just something that is flexible, won't sound like ass and fun to fuck around with
what do you recommend?
>>61020225
I think at 1:14 you should add a couple of hat and snare sequences, to me it feels like the intro should go into something a bit energetic, otherwise I like it.
>>61010411
I start at 145 half-timed almost every time I start a new track. Then I'll adjust it later after I get some sounds down. Sometimes I'll leave it. Probably not a good idea since 145 half-timed would (theoretically) be 72.5 which will fuck DJs up if it ever gets used in a mix. Oh well.
>>61008379
It's either the sample itself or you need to compress it. If your sample is weak from the start, it will most likely always sound weak, no matter what, especially kicks that are only low-end, like yours.
>>61021425
>72.5 which will fuck DJs up if it ever gets used in a mix.
Wat?
>>61021521
Trying to line up two tracks might be hard when one of the tempos isn't a whole number. But honestly, I have no idea how DJing works so I could be completely wrong. I just kind of assumed tracks with a weird tempo would be harder to mix.
I'm wrong, aren't I? The more I think about it, the more wrong it seems.
>>61021652
You're sort of right and sort of wrong. If the DJ were beatmatching by hand then it would make it harder for them, but nowadays computers usually handle beatmatching so the DJ can worry about other things.
>>61021652
Yeah you could just bump the pitch up .5 anyway even if you wanted it to be a round number. Tracks with weird 6 bar phrasing still fuck me up though. I started out DJing and moved into production after a few years. I should probably learn to count beats already since I just use the Serato waveforms to match things up.
>>61021722
>>61021805
I guess I just never really /actually/ thought about it. Makes sense now. Kind of.
Anyway, thoughts on this? I don't listen to progressive house, like, ever, (or any kind of house for that matter) but it's fun to make. This is just a snippet of a remix that is very much still a WIP.
>https://clyp.it/brewpzhe
>>61020637
Lexicon
Ensoniq dp
Roland space Echo
Maybe a guitar pedal like the styroman or Roland re201
What do I do for vocals in EDM? I can do literally everything but properly put vocals on a track. I can never think of good words to put to my music but I feel like it would really make a huge difference.
So far I've been using Audacity and a preamp / audio interface to record my guitar into Audacity. Drum / bass guitar tracks etc. were made using Tuxguitar -> MIDI export -> play through Logic Fun.
That process is unwieldy and the synthesized instruments sound like crap.
What's a better setup to do all of this? Should I get Cubase? Which version? My laptop is old and shit. How do I VST plugins with this? Do I need additional software?
Also please recommend a microphone for vocals / guitar for around 150 €.
Help a noobie out, will you?
Shot sound example:
https://soundcloud.com/valgomir/ghosts-instrumental
>>61026143
I'll help you out by pointing you to the OP:
>Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP : posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.
>>61027076
Thanks, I will do that in the future. Wasn't my intention to promote my shit soundcloud.
Any advice on the software I should use or what microphone to get?
>>61027093
>software
Any modern DAW will do, so long as you learn it through and through. A mistake a lot of people make is to not read the manual and go switching between them in hopes the whole process will become significantly easier when it all boils down to workflow. As of now, most producers use FL Studio or Ableton Live, so you can find a lot of tutorials for those on YouTube. Cubase, Logic and Pro Tools are also very popular, especially for recording.
Regarding VSTs, almost all major DAWs support them.
>>61027193
Thank you, anon.
>>61017346
>maybe an example would help me in the future.
Either post a tab or a clyp/whatever of your recording so i can dl it and write drums for it
> Seems much stronger on the right channel for some reason.
I've no experience with recording so i can't help you
What samples/software do you use for your drums?
I love addictive drums for writing realistic drums
https://clyp.it/rzkigwe5
Quick, what genre would you call this
>>61028845
soundcloud funwave
>>61028845
funsound cloudwave
>>61028845
https://clyp.it/jtrepwo1
here's a better sounding clip
>>61029347
>>61029516
I usually don't upload stuff and only really compose for myself but would people listen to this?
>>61029543
if you add japanese girl lyrics and make the occasional zelda cover/nintendo mashup you'll fit right into a big community and be popular. Not trying to be a jerk here, your clip just really reminds me of that type of thing. You could probably pull it in a different direction too
>>61029626
Interesting. anything's up my alley but I'm not sure I'm going for the weeaboo aesthetic. Maybe when I was 15 I would have
>>61029626
not sure what you mean by japanese girl lyrics though
Does /prod/ like death metal?
https://clyp.it/0jewg2av
>>61028845
Chill downtempo
oh fuck i love 80s drums
im fairly new producing music. is there any way to set a volume limit for the tracks so their sound on an album is similar? is it normalization a good option, or is there quality loss?
made a sick beet to try out some compression stuff, formatted for a rap verse to be performed in the future
https://clyp.it/yfdy43gg
>>61008379
I'd recommend some parallel glue compression and an appropriate EQ along with it
>>61009945
enjoying this, maybe make the kick a little clicky-er and lay off the sidechaining just a bit
>>61012199
I'd mix up the bass a bit so its not just identical drones throughout, maybe throw in a dubstep/dancehall kind of pattern? only real weakness this has, I enjoy the vox
>>61015048
good ideas here, just space them out more so they can be appreciated better.
>>61015684
try compressing the master to reduce dynamics and add an equalizer before to balance everything out and chop out unnecessary frequencies, esp on the snare
>>61015801
sounds pretty good, I'd think about getting more low end freqs if you can to balance the mix a bit more. the gritty edge works well but the dreampop element is a bit unclear, maybe a more complex chord progression would help? Crib a progression from MBV or something
>>61018625
compress plz, and less reverb
>>61028845
pop/hip-hop basically, genre shouldn't matter
>>61030165
guitar and bass sound great, let the drums breath a bit more because they sound super underwhelming despite being played at a more than competent level. Sounds really great tho, is this you're band?
>>61032978
just aim for all your songs to be average 0db when totally finished, mix the album at a lower volume and turn it up when you are all done writing it for the final master
I'm thinking about buying a MIDI keyboard. Budget is 150 €. Should I do it? What size should I get? I'm pretty inexperienced with pianos but i figure i want to learn how to play them better, and have a tool to make backing tracks for my guitar recordings.
Was looking at 61 key ones around 150.
>>61032978
Mastering for a collection of songs is more about normalising the loudness rather than the peaks to obtain a good flow or good contrast between songs - your songs could all peak at 0db and still be wildly different in terms of how loud they sound.
It depends on what your songs are like when viewed as a collection - for example if you want an intense start with some more-calm songs in the middle with a climactic finishing track you'd adjust loudness accordingly.
Best way to be able to understand this is to use a metering plugin that shows loudness as well as peaks - I use NuGen Audio VisLM but a good free version is TT-DR
http://www.dynamicrange.de/es/es/download
This can be used as a plugin but also as an offline analyser so you can load audio files into it to compare their DR rating with your own stuff.
>>61034148
always check for used stuff in your area, midi keyboards and controllers usually dont take that much of a beating in their lifetime
>>61034254
I'd also add that most audio editors will have some sort of loudness metering - image related is the meter in Wavelab 6 that shows peaks (instantaneous) in the outer tracks and loudness (usually RMS) in the inner ones, it also has instantaneous and RMS pan meters to show how your stereo image varies.
HOW TO MAKE SOPHISTI POP WITHOUT VOCALS
>>61034295
Good call, but eBay and the country's largest online music shop's small ads section yielded nothing. I guess i can always order one and return it if i dislike it.
So I'm new to recording and I just picked up a Focusrite Scarlett Solo. It works well and all but when I plug my guitar in and record it only produces sound on the right channel. I have recording set to stereo in my DAW but that hasn't done anything obviously. I tried switching to just left channel and when I played nothing came out. Anyone know why this is?
the vocals are kinda fucked in general, but I think the instrumental has some potential. any tips?
https://clyp.it/g5jxpmaz
>>61034643
Create a mono track in your DAW and monitor that when you're recording - it could be that (since your input is mono) it's only being routed to one channel when you use a stereo track.
Do you hear both left and right channels when you play a stereo audio file through the device?
https://clyp.it/4pp1pguj
Planning to add another drop... just looking for feedback though. What do you guys think?
>>61033578
I'm not a huge fan of that snare, but everything else is really great. I'd say maybe add some kind of swirling synth underneath the part that comes in at :27
>>61030165
I'm with the other guy, the guitar and bass are fantastic, the drums don't quite cut through the mix, though.
>>61015519
there's some serious clipping going on with that synth in the beginning. its pretty nice overall, though.
>>61034946
dope
>>61034813
That seemed to fix it. I switched from stereo to the right channel and know it's recording on both sides. Thanks man.
My parents tasked me with figuring out what comp to get my little bro for christmas. He produces in ableton, and this is basically the only thing he uses the computer for.
A computer store gave me this quote when I said I'd like to keep it around $1000 canadian.
Anyone know whether there are any parts I should get nicer versions of, to make sure ableton is running at its best????
I'm an idiot when it comes to hardware.
Has someone used FL studio mobile? Is it good? How do i pirate it?
I get to play a 15 minute set in a small venue in a couple of weeks. Never played live before and I have no idea what to do. My music is electronic chillout type stuff with soft synths and some guitar. Dont think I'll bring the guitar so what the fuck will I be doing. Do I just stand there while my ableton project plays through? Should I get a launchpad and do some sort of live remix of my stuff? I still feel like I'd just be standing there for most of the time.
>>61036344
you should be able to get a slightly better cpu and gfx card, an ssd and maybe 16 gb ram for that price, but I guess its not completely terrible for a store bought, idk. Either way youre better off in /g/.
I need help with synthesizers guys. I want something that can be sequenced with notes and is good for chords and pads. On sweetwater's website I don't know which one would be best, any recommendations?
>>61036454
i bought it and didnt like it
>>61036454
Its not that good if you actually plan on doing something with it, but it's fun to mess around with.
>>61037540
Go on Craigslist/Kijiji and search 'synth' or 'synthesizer' and see what you can find. If you see one that looks good and is a reasonable price do some research on it, listen to demos on youtube and buy it if you like what you hear. Synths like you're describing aren't hard to come by, really you're just looking for a digital polyphonic synth. I've seen a lot of really cool vintage and obscure poly synths sell for super cheap on Kijiji, take a look around you might find something that's uniquely 'you' for a great price
>>61033578
>guitar and bass sound great, let the drums breath a bit more because they sound super underwhelming despite being played at a more than competent level. Sounds really great tho, is this you're band?
It's a guitar pro 6 file actually, the rse is really underrated
>>61033578
Pretty nice i would maybe beef up the kick a bit
How Do I Make VapourWave?
Should I use ableton or something different? Should I buy some sort of controller? Do I need musical training?
plz and thanks senpai
>>61038088
>singing bowl
top tier confirmed
>>61038088
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyt_87yCyNw
here you go vapormeme producer
Don't die prod
jesus christ fl studio is absolutely fucking horrible to use. clunky as fuck and wayy too fucking complex. i couldnt even play a fucking audio file in it.
>>61040586
Tbh i've got the same feel with ableton when i tried to change
>>61040586
you get used to it eventually, then it becomes pretty alright
>>61040586
GIT GUD
>>61040680
already uninstalled it because of how retarded i am. looks like im sticking to audacity.
How do I get "breathy" sounds like in most ambient music? Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fG4Z5h7Zfk
>>61040711
>>61040586
I'm glad you revived the thread with this bait
>>61040729
Filtered white noise + effects ?
>>61040745
not even b8. im actually fucking retarded when it comes to new programs. audacity is minimal to the point where i can understand what shit does. plus the menus dont give me autism. i know ill never get anywhere with production but still
>>61040729
By the way does this things sells because i could make you two hours of it for the end of the week if it i didn't have finals
>>61040786
I don't think it sells, but a lot of people enjoy it.
Drone music isn't hard to make, but that doesn't bug me.
so i bought an audio interface and it came with some plugins for free, theres one who has as prerequisite to install ilok (softube time and tune). If i have pirated plugins will i lose the ''legal'' ones that came with the interface too if a plugin gets detected or something? i have a bunch of plugins for a pirated FL copy, has anyone else tried to use pirated and purchased stuff together?
(the interface also came with ableton live 9 lite, and kinda expectedly ableton only detects automatically the plugins that came with the interface)
What is it called when you bind an effect to the amplitude of an audio track? My friend showed it to me years ago and I forget what it's called. Thanks.
>>61040934
You should be good
>>61040957
sidechaining (?)
>>61040981
>sidechaining
yess, thank you
>>61040853
No, it was actually nicely made but that's just that i can do it easily
>>61036658
thanks anon
Hey guys, new producer with a handful of questions
>what do I do for vocals in future bass?
>I downloaded kontakt via recommendation from a friend but have no idea what to do with it
>how do I put filters or reverbs on just one pattern or channel without it overlaying on the entire track?
>what's the best way to write a melody?
>>61040753
Yeah, I just EQ'd some white noise, added a shallow phaser, and it pretty much breathed.
someone can share a torrent to a UAD2 plugin pack? i cant find it.
>>61041534
senpai pls
>>61041595
kek
i have a question for any EDM* producers out there (using it as a complete umbrella term, any variation or sub/micro genre applies)
how do i make something thats expressive with just 4 to the floor? i never took the whole genre seriously as something other than just dance music and now that im *attempting* to write it im having just a nightmare of a time making anything that isnt completely lifeless.
https://clyp.it/ublcqcp4
this is gonna be soo dope once I finish
>>61042487
damn right
>>61042487
I vibe with this. Only thing that I think could make it sound better would on the main beat where the synth or whatever goes
"Dun Dundun Dun" it could instead go "Dundun Dundundun Dundun" every third time for some variation and tempo.
>>61041534
Use a manual for Kontakt, otherwise just use youtube
Best way to write a melody is whatever works best for you, everybody is different. Personally, I believe that a melody sounds more natural if it's improvised over a chord progression or even just improvised until it sounds good.
Posted a track a couple days ago, pretty much completely without EQ or mixing done, then yesterday and today mixed it. How does the newer version sound vs the original and is there anything I glaringly fucked up?
Original- https://clyp.it/2aykcndc
Mixed- https://clyp.it/1l4bqhd3
https://clyp.it/04hkn0gm
Can people please give this a listen and let me know what you think/any critique.
weird question
how do I stop letting my inspirations demotivate me? I hear this amazing music and all I can think is how bad my stuff sounds in comparison, how little I know, and how nothing I make will ever sound 1/10th as good as that...
>>61043850
someone linked me to this when I thought that
https://vimeo.com/85040589
>>61043850
Not sure for production stuff but any time I feel bad about my DJ skills I go on mixcloud and listen to some of the awful garbage people upload and immediately feel much better about my own humble skills. Practice a lot and read tutorials and eventually you'll get better.
>>61043850
Just keep writing. The more you make, the more you learn, the better you become
>>61043873
that was actually really cool although the ending felt abrupt. felt like they were gonna elaborate more on what they were saying. thanks for that.
>>61043906
I'd do this but no one sounds shittier than me
>>61044029
i suppose
>>61044140
Eventually you won't sound like shit, but you'll always be shit if you give up now :^)
>>61044180
That's a good way to put it
>>61044140
Just look up the original speech, there's four parts on youtube
>>61044140
Post your stuff. Trust me I'm sure we've all heard worse and even if we haven't we all started somewhere.
>>61043777
>https://soundcloud.com/super-future/tracks
Self-bump.
>>61044320
Use clyp.it, mang
>>61044431
>>61044375
sorry, forgot soundcloud links aren't allowed here
https://clyp.it/d4haxevs
https://clyp.it/gsp0vcea
>>61044479
Your other post mentioned you're new to this...how new exactly? This sounds pretty decent!
>>61040586
You can literally drag and drop audio files from a folder or your desktop into the FL playlist. Nothing could be easier.
>>61044522
the first clip was like 3 days after I decided I want to learn stuff, the second is just something I was messing around with last night. It's been like less than a month I think since I started. Thanks for the kind words, appreciate it.
>>61044479
>>61044621
This isn't bad at all especially if you're just starting out. I've been fucking around for years and am just starting to get to the point where I really like how my stuff hangs together.
>>61044706
thanks senpai
idk it's still not anywhere near where I want it to be haha
>>61043240
Anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm half drunk and my ears are too fatigued to really know what's going on anyway.
One queston
What was used to create Chuck Person's Eccojams?
>>61045599
Probably Goldwave.
>>61043777
Sorry, this is me. I accidentally bumped the wrong thing. Please have a listen and give me some feedback.
>>61043777
>https://clyp.it/04hkn0gm
Me again. Anyone else find these clyp links super loud? Even though mine is proper production level, it's best listened to at about 50%-60% volume on clyp link.
>whats the thread limit on /mu/?
/prod/ I DONT FEEL LIKE WRITING ANYTHING
I havent even felt creative for the past 3 weeks or so. there's just nothing there. every time i open my DAW now, i just dick around with my drum bus but i dont feel like starting any chord progressions or melodies or anything. and there's not even any ideas bouncing around up in my mind. i keep trying to spend some time coloring and doing cardio to see if that helps get my mind right but fuck man, nothing is helping. i dont even know what to do.
>>61045798
damn, i got really used to audacity, don't know if i'm ready to switch to that, even tho it looks a e s t h e t i c af
I can never seem to get the delays right. Eccojams has those nice stereo delays that don't muddy up the mix
Who can hook me up with a shit ton of samples for trap, future bass, and melodic dubstep?
Is there anyone more based than him /prod/?
>>61046396
You really should stick with Audacity, Goldwave's just a shittier version of Audacity anyway. Though the jump from Audacity to Goldwave is much smaller than the jump from Audacity to any DAW. They're very similar.
Do we have any patient listeners here? Got some post-rock-esque I need a critique on, please and thank you.
https://clyp.it/atdfxndk
>>61046727
Bumping with tits.
Any good tutorial torrents?
can anyone tell me why I'm getting a crackling/popping/static-y noise in FL studio? It's seemingly out of nowhere.
yo can everyone check out this track?
>>61047890
>>61047929
are you using anything pirated? are your buffer settings and everything set right? are your speakers/headphones/cables/interface all functioning properly?
>>61047973
that's an awful title for a song and also read the op
specifically the part about self-advertisement
