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Discuss.
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>>60980849
I thought the way she approaches music and her life in general is inspirational.
I may be a dude but she is who I aspire to be musically and attitude wise. Maybe not the hair though.
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>>60980849
It's so fucking short. And the stuff she says about the characters is silly and just stupid; Bowie without getting it at all.

However, I like everything else quite a lot. Her music, her attitude, personality. I wish she'd say "like" a bit less, but that's forgiveable.
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>>60980849
fader is worse than pitchfork. 5mins of nothing
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>>60980849
>I toured the world, I learned how top perform and sing.

Does anyone have the video where she's playing live with the terrible singing?
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>>60981002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeuwBcpKK6g
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>>60981002
I've got a few
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>>60981019
Thanks family
>>60981035
It was this one >>60981019
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>>60981019
she used to be better tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MavkKrCx1BM
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>>60981019
jesus, what a shitty performance.
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>>60980849
>like, you know, like, you know, fuck fuck fucking fuck, you know, like?
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>>60981019
she's tottally on drugs in this
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>>60981019
>>60981106

It's a very hard song to sing live because it has some of her breathiest vocals and she cant do that at all while jumpin and hopping and skippin around.
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>>60981019
The worst part about this is those fucking dancers.

Are they just like (like) her friends or something? I mean, I really hope those aren't "professional" dancers she hired.
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>>60980849
>ICP
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>>60980849
she's a completely arrogant cunt who doesn't realise she exists solely for the entertainment of the masses

>producer offers to collab
>'dude stop trying to steal my job'
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>>60981154
>Are they just like (like) her friends or something?
Yep.
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>>60981193
She is actually right. Her music has a very personal meaning to her.
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>>60981210
>>60981210
of course she has to be the flashiest one and stand out
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>>60981154
grimes promotes a judgment free zone
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>>60981125
then dont perform it live.
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>>60981260
i guess theyre already acquainted with mediocrity
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>>60981251
but people want to hear it..
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>>60981260
>>60981277
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>>60981271
ffs no one is really there to hear Grimes nail every single note
they are there cuz she makes people feel happy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQaiPLpXGFE
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>>60980849
fuck this stupid ugly idiot monkey.
/thread
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>>60981307
yeah thats fine,. but grimes in the "documentary" said she toured and learned how to sing
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>>60981125

Then don't spazz about doing it.
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>>60982393
Monkey or mouse?

I can never tell.
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>>60982492
mouthe
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>>60981019
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

TOP FUCKING KEK AT THE GRIMESFAGS TRYING TO DEFEND THIS
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>>60983696
she was obviously sick, usually she is not that bad
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>>60981019
>all those cellphones
Do people actually do this?
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>>60980849
I love how she pretends like this last album was DIY when it was just her making top 40 pop crap to appease her investors
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>>60983732
she doesn't have investors
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>>60983714
Yeah of course bro sick people usually are that energetic
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>>60983745
Yeah you're right she's just a creative artist who does what she wants because it's self expression and art! I love grimes so inspiring xoxo!!!
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>>60983749
Yes, cuz it's Grimes. She can dance even with broken leg.
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>>60983714
>>60981123
>she's sick
>she's on drugs
You people are pathetic and delusional
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>>60983749
she's on a fuckton of drugs
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>>60983807
she actually tweeted before the show that she was sick
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>>60983818
You're saying that as if it's supposed to be an excuse. A lot of musicians perform under the influence and do it well. If grimes is sick then she should cancel the show, if she's on drugs and knows she sucks on drugs then she shouldn't fucking do drugs. Especially after that long ass tumblr post about how she was pissed Wikipedia wouldn't delete te part about her being into drugs cuz drugs are le bad
>>60983829
That's not the point, the point is if you're sick and know you'll suck then cancel the show
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>>60983860
>>60983860
>You're saying that as if it's supposed to be an excuse
No, I mean that's why she's so energetic despite being sick.
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>>60983886
So you agree it's a terrible performance?
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>>60983920
not her best, and she can do better as stated here >>60981069
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>>60983920
oh yeah
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>>60980849
Wait so is she unofficially the Lady Gaga of punk pop now? Calling her fans art angels and shit?

Anyway she's pretty cool.

Not a whole lot more to say about this interview.
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>>60983984
No the Art Angels are her characters/live personas while playing certain material.

WE BOWIE NOW
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>>60983732
>pretends like this last album was DIY
It was written and produced solely by Grimes.
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>>60983984
theyre her little monsters :3 travis scotts fans are ragers >:) get it right noob :) haha im the biggest music fan around! i know all the big music people in the business and my dad works for nintendo!
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>>60981239
No shit, they're the background dancers
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>>60982393
/thread
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>>60980849
>Documentary
>5 minutes long

Fucking really. This could have actually been interesting
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>>60984063
Do you seriously think that's all it takes for an album to be DIY? What about budget? Don't tell me you think grimes paid cash out of her own pocket to make this album because you'd be naive. Yeah sure she has producer and writing credit but that's just a title. You think it was her own decision to make the album poppier? Lmao
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>>60984236
She always wanted to make pop music like Mariah Carey, she just didn't have enough technical skills before to make an album on the level of Art Angels.

>What about budget?
There was only a budget for music videos.
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>>60981239
That's how these things work. She's Grimes, they are not.
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>>60984033
So she's a schizophrenic. That's cool. I can respect that.
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>>60980849
This made me like her more.
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>>60984479
Art Angels is nothing like anything I've ever heard by Mariah Carey, and I've heard just about all of it.
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>>60980849
wtf icp t shirt?? IS SHE WAERING IT IRONICLY??
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>>60984801
This is a schizophrenic we're talking about her. She could be wearing it for any number of reasons, and they all may change on a whim.
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>>60981019
I like grimes but God damn she can never perform this or Be A Body live
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>>60984956
be a body was amazing live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMaQpTe0CtA
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It's funny how people on /mu/ thinks she's genuine when in reality she's no different from any top 40 act right now
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>>60985169
>no different from any top 40 act
false as fuck
there is still no one similar to grimes
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>>60980849
>complaining about producers wanting to help make songs with her

wow must be tough Grimes. must be so hard having to turn away all those A-list producers wanting to work with you.
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>>60984801
Its not ironic, she thinks ICP is cool. She tweets about them sometimes tooo. I think it would be fun to see her do a collaboration thing with them. Maybe some kind of concept album about a cute fairy girl that joins the dark carnival and learns of the juggalo lifestyle.
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>>60985169
shes getting closer to top 40
but I think she's genuine really I do. not a halsey type who just says what's trending on tumblr reblogs or what her marketing team says

grimes is like a mutation of all the shit people joke about on 4chan and make fun of, but has talent or at least ambition to make listenable music. for that I'll always give her credit and like her
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>>60984655
Schizophrenia is not actually multiple personality disorder.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if Claire had genuine schizophrenia.
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>>60980849
>like
>like
>uh.. like
>fuck off!
>like
>like
>like
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This is fucking disgusting.
I hope you all die.
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>>60980960
Nah, fader is better only because they have top tier photographers on staff.
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>>60984833
>schizophrenic
yeah shes perfect even with her mental quirks xD
Schizoid my ass. Id probably like her more if she was like wesley willis.
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>>60985169
Art Angels peaked at 36
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>>60980849

>5 minutes
>documentry
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>>60985242
>what is literally any synthpop/eclectropop revival act
>what are carly rae jepsen, charli xcx, marina and the diamonds, etc.
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whats her genre called again

im betting its got a bunch of prefixes infront of other genres like most fedora fag bands
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>>60986479
Future pop
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She's not schizophrenic. But let's say she is, and let's say that this whole persona of arch angels era grimes is just "a character" (first of all that's multiple personality disorder) but let's say that this is actually what she was going for.

Wouldn't that be romanticizing mental illness? In the same way she tweeted about how bad romanticizing poverty was.

I'm guessing because she's loved by websites with social agendas it'll be viewed as self expressive art that's supposed to help others with mental illnesses instead of what it actually is: romanticizing schizophrenia in the same le quirky XDD way nicki minaj romanticizes multiple personality disorder

i never liked grimes or her act, and it is an act, but the only thing more pathetic than her attempts to "stay true to herself" are the mindless drones who are quick to defend her everytime she gets called out
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>>60986526
it's a known fact grimes makes shit up as she goes and lets her fans do the rest
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>>60980849
There's something so fake about her. Maybe fake is the wrong word but everytime she does an interview she makes herself out to be some kind of creative/marketing/musician he genius who deserves respect. All she does is make pop drivel with a tinge of "experimentation". Why does she act as if she's doing something totally different?
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Guys she's so quirky xD
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>>60986475
>carly rae jepsen, charli xcx, marina and the diamonds
Do they have any songs like Kill V Maim?
Do they scream in their songs?
Do they collaborate with Taiwanese rappers?
Do they use layered vocals with reverb to create an ethereal vibe?
Do they actively use massive kick drums and bass line?
etc
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>>60986595
shes like the female kanye
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>>60986526
I don't think she calls it schizophrenia; that's something only people in this thread do. I don't really like the way she's approaching the multiple character thing, but it is by no means related to her pretending to have mental illness. It's just an art thing I guess. KISS were characters on stage too, and I'm pretty sure most of the members of KISS don't even know how to write or pronounce schizophrenia.
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>>60986595
it's a defense mechanism. it's what a lot of mediocre musicians do to mask the fact that their art is mediocre
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>>60986520

are you sure its not postfuture pop
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>>60986634
don't worry our boy sophie/pc music is producing their next albums
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>>60986619

thats why shes hot you fucking faggot

go back to normalville where you like girls cause of their bodies, rather than cause of a tight lg body on top of being quirky
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>>60986634
that's like saying two drawings of a cat are different because one has a blue collar and the other has a red collar

Also you come across as extremely defensive, not just this post, but every other post defending grimes in this thread
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>>60984033
THROWING DARTS IN LOVERS EEEYYYES
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Her music does not engage the listener at all. Completely unimaginative and she needs to hit the books.

Stupid entitled kid
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>>60986753
BUT BRO SHE SCREAM HER SONG ETHEREAL VIBE XDDD
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>>60986714
>two drawings of a cat are different because one has a blue collar and the other has a red collar

You had nothing valuable to provide so you decided to fuck up my point. Well done.
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She's so awful/unimaginative/entitled that she's got the #1 album of the year and has dozens of threads on /mu/ daily, hm?
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>>60986807
Those are basically two or three haters who post shit in every Grimes thread. The rest of /mu/ loves Grimes.
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>>60986753
I'm the listener and I'm engaged.
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>>60986806
No problem
>>60986807
First of all having a lot of threads about someone on /mu/ is in no way indicative of how creative/imaginative a musician is. Second of all just look at the number of IP's in every art angels/grimes thread you click on and it will make sense why. 100 posts with only 30 unique posters in this thread means there's a few defensive grimes worshipping waifufags who keep bumping thread to keep it from 404ing.

wouldt surprise me if it was her or her marketing team desu
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>>60986880
>100 posts with only 30 unique posters

You have just proved my point in >>60986845
>Those are basically two or three haters who post shit in every Grimes thread. The rest of /mu/ loves Grimes.
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>>60986880
>just look at the number of IP's in every art angels/grimes thread you click on
Where are you seeing this information?
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>>60986931
You're gunna tell me that the replies to the shitty live performance itt are just one or two ppl samefagginh?
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>>60986948
Bottom of thread
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>>60986976
This video has been posted a lot of times in different threads already and I've seen the same replies every time.
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>>60986948
bottom right corner homie

a bit above the switches for deleting your post and changing the board style
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>>60987001
>>60987007
I've been on this goddamned site for how many years and never knew. Thanks, anon
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>>60986433
>Art Angels peaked at 36
>Periphery's new record debuted at 15
I don't really care for Djent, but it's interesting how a genre that has had no mainstream attention whatsoever can sell more than many albums that get a giant barrage of attention constantly.
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>>60987003
You're if you think most of mu likes grimes
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>>60987038
You're Deluded*
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>>60986595

because she is the most experimental pop artist comparing to any other pop artist
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>>60987003

>people are supposed to like an artist being outted for shit during a live performance rather than the confines of a heavily altered studio product

i bet you did this same complaining back when SOAD was popular too
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>>60987072
I laughed
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>>60987079
>SOAD
never listened to them desu
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>>60987026
It's been there less than a year homie don't worry.
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>>60980849
>a 6 minutes documentary
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>>60987118

they're shit live cause they dont pay another guitarist to play the riffs that the songs have since they just heavily edit it with 1 guy playing both

also Serj cant without autotune
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>>60987072
>experimental pop
Do you not realize that this is an oxymoron? The fact that the album received unanimous acclaim from music critics is further proof that this isn't an experimental album.
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>>60980849

>like
>like totally femism bro
>i can like be anything i want
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>>60980849

>like producers ask me if they can work on my album

>thats like someone asking if they can do my job for me

>transitions to her fat asian lesbian lover

>i hear like this pantera like growl she does
>so like i called her up an asked if she wanted to do something together

>its like totally not the same thing tho cuz im a girl
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>>60987184
>implying experimental album can't receive acclaim from mainstream critics
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>>60987247
>trying that hard to hate on poor grimeth

W H Y
H
Y
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>>60986648
yeah but it's not grimes' case tho
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Guize her inarticulacy is part of her act xDd
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>>60980849
Wow her life must be so hard
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>>60981019
couldn't bear to watch. autotune was invented for live performances and she should use it.
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>>60987184
>The fact that the album received unanimous acclaim from music critics is further proof that this isn't an experimental album.
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>>60987684
Literally every single last experimental album from the 60s70s80s etc.. was never unanimously acclaimed by critics
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>>60987184
>I don't like things other people like because I need to feel special
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is she an industry plant
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>>60987733
there was no internet back then
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>>60981019
People who expect album quality vocals at live performances deserve to be disappointed.
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>>60987733
[citation needed]
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>>60987792
Nice b8
>>60987808
It would be easier to disprove but by stating an experimental album that was unanimously praised by critics immediately following its release
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literally perfect
glad she's finally getting the recognition she deserves
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>>60987831
You made the claim. The burden of proof is on you.
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>>60987867
I could list every single experimental album along with a critics negative review. Or I could just tell you to look up the word experimental in the dictionary

Which do you prefer?
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>>60987911
List every single experimental album along with a critics negative review.
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>>60987962
Ok I'll write it up on a word doc and link it here once I'm done. Don't go anywhere
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>>60987856
i heard she's getting fake tits

why would she do such a thing
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>>60988069
>i heard she's getting fake tits
source pls
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>>60988043
The word experimental is thrown around in music so much that it is basically meaningless -- a catchall code word for something different. Don't get so lost in vernacular.

Still waiting on that doc. Type faster.
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>>60988069
Because she's a product of weeabooism. Anime culture has heavily influenced her, which has been apparent since the beginning, but also emphasized in her latest two albums, including their album covers and the videos for Flesh Without Blood and Genesis. She even says as much in some of her interviews.

Grimes' physical appearance mimics the young, sweet, and innocent girls commonly found in anime, donning silly and youthful outfits and styles (and her small breasts and childly-sounding lisp help this). "Oblivion" from her previous album was one her biggest singles, and that song talks about her fears of encountering aggressive strangers when walking home alone at night, further reinforcing her image as one of these girls, incapable of defending herself and needing protection.

However, another common theme in anime is that these young girls undergo accelerated maturities through transformations, where they become more powerful and fight off enemies (eg: Sailor Moon). Grimes was displaying more of an aggressive side on Art Angels through tracks like "Scream" and "Kill V. Maim", the former including a more visceral form of fury while the latter is a high-energy attack on males who criticize her for being a female musician.

The only problem is that, despite this, she still is quite youthful. Recent photoshoots like the one pictured have tried to portray her as something resembling an adult, but it's disconnected from the image she's built up so far. Getting breast implants would really be a form of accelerated maturity; it is a transformation that takes place over a short time and would make her physically appear more like a woman than a little girl.
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>>60988069
>>60988095
>>60988480
MY GOD, CAN I JUST GET A SOURCE ON THIS RUMOR, PLEASE
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>>60988480
>tfw by her next record or the one after that she'll have turned into a bizarre mix of Miley Cyrus and KANEEEDAAAAAAA and Bowie
Can't wait.
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>>60989520

IS THIS REAL?
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>>60989681
yes

It's NSFW, but it's art so it's cool right, mods?
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>>60989845

why does that tranny on the right look like down syndrome?
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She's like if Jim Henson designed a human

Anyone else feel the same
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Huh. She actually seems alright. One of those people that would be fun to smoke a joint with every now and then, but they'd get really irritating if you had to deal with them on a daily basis.

Also if the music was snippets from her album then I might check it out. I listened to Visions once but it was really forgettable. Genesis was really the only good song
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>>60989882
Why do you talk like down syndrome?
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>>60990379
Reminder that Be a Body is the only great song on Visions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb_0LzBv894
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>>60980849
like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like
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Does she still only shower once a week?
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>>60989520
I got b& for posting that. Watch out.
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>>60981277
Then she can fucking well stand still and sing it.
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>>60980849
Why does she have two scottish flags draped over her window?

Cultural appropriation tbqh
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this doesnt seem like the grimes i saw in an interview 4 years ago at all.
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>>60987750
Nah way too clumsy
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>>60990613
I LIVE ON THE EDGE
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>>60990923
>filename
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>>60981019
It's not bad... could have been worse.
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>>60982446
tfw you are too tedious.
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>>60990923
>>60991139
kek
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>>60990923
bob why you so angry
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>>60991728
Bob had a hard life
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