This is by far the best progressive rock album ever made. The fact that people suck King Crimson's dick and completely ignore this is evidence that humanity needs to be destroyed.
Not even the best Genesis album.
phil collins ruined genesis from his very first moment
this is the only genesis album
1. Please learn to respect opinions of others. people enjoy different things and that is alright. variety of opinions on a subject such as music is not a negative thing and it encourages discussion.
Also, the very fact something such as humanity even exists is absolutely astounding - the fact the law of physics created something within the universe that can experience things such as beauty, and understand anything at all - is just amazing. please think bigger, and you'll learn to appreciate and love humanity.
2. I like The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway more
>>60719408
Nah. Its just different. Trick, wind and duke or great albums
>>60719324
>Best
Yeah probably
>By far
No way
>>60719429
>muh low probabilities
>muh rarities
>muh truth beauty beauty truth
nay, humanity is clearly a mistake
>>60719324
I don't like King Crimson that much but I love other Fripp shit, is that okay or do i need to die
>>60719749
>i'm miserable so humanity is a mistake
>>60719770
That's fine it's just fucking weird
>>60719324
Genesis' later paltry efforts detract from the quality of their early works, deal with it.
>>60719828
This doesn't make sense.
>>60719838
Phil Collins is one of the biggest cunts in music, and the early work which belies this fact therefore seems dishonest.
>>60719935
>Basing your opinion of art on the artist's personal life
Stop
>>60719408
Jesus christ. I've heard some dumb shit spouted on this board but I think you win award for that moronic bullshit.
The guy is an amazing drummer (see Brand X) and personally I think he is a better singer than Peter Gabriel. Maybe not a better showman but a better singer.
And Trick of the Tail is probably my favorite Genesis album. Seconds Out close second.
And Genesis really changed when Hackett left.
>>60719935
Ah I see you're confused. Banks is probably the cunt of Genesis.
But fuck if I could play keys that fucking amazingly I'd be an arrogant cunt too.
what do you think of a trick of the tail
What happens is that ITCOTCK is a more accessible album, people who don't really care about progressive rock can listen to it easily, the structures that genesis uses are "weirder" than Moonchild (which is the only "obstacle" the album has).
>dadrock
TAAB is one of the greatest in my opinion.
>>60720187
junky rehash of old ideas
>>60720866
No. It is a brilliant continuation by a band that lost their creative and live focus. They auditioned many singers and Phil Collins finally said "Fuck this. I can do this better." And he stepped out from behind the drum stool and became the band's new singer. Not an easy thing to do and I give him major props for pulling it off.
Hardly a "rehash of old ideas."
get on my level faggots
King Crimson has always been shit, Genesis rocks.
>>60722059
kek
>>60720842
>>60721863
Both those are probably better than any Genesis album. Genesis had a much stronger run in the early 70s than any other prog group, though.
>>60722059
You're 50% correct.
>>60720077
This
>>60719324
>>60719382
>>60719408
>>60719429
>>60719493
>>60720038
Stop fighting.
Trespass-Duke is god-tier
That's all that matters
>>60719958
Really seems warranted in the case of Phil Collins, weep over it if you want.
>>60722347
He's just a self-important tit with a shitty solo career, it's not like he killed anybody
I'll just be here in my corner listening to GG...
>>60722388
far inferior to the likes of henry cow, univers zero, and art zoyd
>>60719324
Terrible compared to bands like Coheed & Cambria, The Dear Hunter and Fair to Midland
>>60719324
>The fact that people suck King Crimson's dick and completely ignore this is evidence that humanity needs to be destroyed.
>>>/youtube/
You have the right to be passionate about music, but cut that shit out.
>>60722445
At least they were fun. Unlike any of the bands you mentioned.
>>60722388
Mah nigga
https://youtu.be/_pryVmeklmQ
>>60722472
Right here with you man. It's scary that people will fight over how they entertain themselves. Funny to think it's probably the same people who says religion is bad because it causes war. Religion doesn't cause war, people cause war.
>>60722385
Do people honestly not like all of Phil's solo stuff? How can you not like in the air tonight, easy lover, can't hurry love (even though it's a cover) I mean most of its meh, but there's nothing better than some Phil Collins when I need to relax
>progressive rock
>good
What if I suck King Crimson's dick and Genesis' dick?
top 10 prog albums:
1. King Crimson - Larks' Tongue In Aspic
2. Yes - Close to the Edge
3. Can - Tago Mago
4. King Crimson - Discipline
5. Mr Bungle - Disco Volante
6. Genesis - Selling England By The Pound
7. Frank Zappa - Uncle Meat
8. Magma - Udu Wudu
9. Gentle Giant - Octopus
10. The Mars Volta - Deloused In The Comatorium
I put two King Crimson albums because they were basically from two different bands really and they sound nothing alike. Also, I'm pretty sure Disco Volante counts as a prog album.
>>60720526
>he hasn't listened to thrakattak
>>60719493
Wind and Wuthering is not good. Fully half that album is unlistenable trash. And this is coming from someone who loves both Genesis eras. I will say though, great cover.
>>60722880
>discipline
my man, my father used to play that shit in the car all the time. inspired me to learn guitar
>>60722909
>implying
Your Own Special Way sucks but everything else in the album is GOAT (they should've swapped it for Inside & Out but oh well).
>>60722465
>FAIR TO FUCKING MIDLAND
jesus christ dude
>>60722903
I was talking about ITCOTCK my friend, which is the album that the majority of /mu/ sucks the dick of.
>>60723260
He was memeing you dip
>>60719324
I agree op
>>60722465
Those bands aren't even fit to touch their lips on Genesis' collective dicks
>>60722880
>Can
>Zappa
>Prog
>mars Volta
Faggot
in my opinion hybris is the ultimate progressive rock album, flawless
>>60724047
early Zappa is avant prog you dingbat, and I suppose Krautrocks status as prog is debatable. Also go fuck yerself, The Mars Volta is a good band you fucking turkey
>>60724047
EPIC
>>60719324
10/10
not the best album, but one of
>>60719382
10/10
not the best genesis album, but the second best
>>60719408
9/10
it's a fantastic album but collins and hackett could have added that extra push to make it perfect
>>60719429
11/10 best album of all time ever t b h
>>60719493
10/10
probably the best trio-era album, s/t and abacab being a really close second and third
>>60720038
10/10
probably the best live album ever
>>60719770
fripp's solo stuff is kind of different
i love kc but league of gentlemen and exposure are better than some kc albums imo (esp beat and three of a perfect pair)
>>60719828
>>60719935
invisible touch and we cant dance are pretty good albums
they dont hold up to the rest of their discog by far but theyre objectively really solid albums, by pop and by art rock standards
phil collins is one of the most talented drummers ever. he did a lot of stuff in the 70s that you probably don't even realize is him. three of eno's best albums had collins drumming. brand x's first three albums are GOAT. his contributions to two sides of peter banks, peter and the wolf, pg's solo albums, and fripp's stuff are fucking revolutionary. he literally invented a drum sound that still gets emulated to this day, all from dicking around on a pg solo album. he's not even an asshole, just kind of awkward and his success outgrew his personality. his first couple of solo albums are pretty good, too. i fucking can't stand the "muh phil collins american psycho shitty pop artist" mentality
>>60720842
i thought it was boring but jt's stuff isnt my thing
>>60721863
9/10 album, yes is a shitty band that's made some really good albums
relayer and s/t are their only 10/10s imo
>>60722388
9/10
probably one of the best discogs of any prog band (up until giant for a day)
>>60722909
>>60723212
i like your own special way, actually. not the best genesis song, but that and attwt are two really solid albums (better than atott imo)
>best prog album ever
The Mars Volta or Devin Townsend probably.
>>60721863
The quintessential prog album.
>>60724100
>avant prog
lol
Mars Volta are terrible. I didn't know there were still people who weren't ashamed to be former-fans of their's.
>>60719324
It's pretty good but Genesis has a lot of better stuff.
>>60719382
Supper's Ready is my actual favourite song.
>>60719408
Agree with the other guy, the drumming is shit and Phil is the GOAT drummer. Ant Phillips has great influence on the album (see his The Geese and the Ghost album) but some of the guitar licks would be way better with Steve.
>>60719429
my favourite Peter-era album
>>60719493
Tied for 1st with Wind and Wuthering
>>60720038
>implying Duke isn't phenomenal
>implying Abacab isn't also fucking awesome sounding
>>60720077
Tony is a huge douche but he's the most important guy in the band when it comes to the songwriting and playing.
>>60722909
One for the Vine has the potential to be their best song. Most of the album is fantastic. The cover is great though you're right.
>>60723212
Your own special way is complete trash and should 100% have been replaced with Inside and Out.
>>60724291
explain to me how Zappa wasnt avant prog instead of just meme texting what I said and adding a retarded comment please?
>>60724328
Prog doesn't mean "weird music." It's a style. Yes, Rush, Genesis, Crimson, Camel, Gentle Giant... are prog. Zappa/Mothers didn't sound anything like that. Zappa was into 19th and 20th century classical, jazz, and old R&B. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, it's kinda complicated. Yeah, some of the guys in the band could really play. But it's not prog.
>>60724548
Prog isnt just lengthy, whimsical English rock music. Avant prog is a legitimate subgenre and none of the band sound anything like the traditional Prog bands of England. Their detachment from the typical English sound doesnt prevent them from being Prog though.
Why does there have to be a "best album ever"?
Why can't people just enjoy music?
>>60724074
Awwww yiss
>"SHE SEEMS TO HAVE AN INVISIBLE TOUCH-UH"
>>60725225
I imagine 99% of the comments claiming something to be the "best ever" (not just albums) are just exaggeration.
Just read it as "this is really good."
>>60725277
Tune desu
>>60725597
Hhmmm, corrects desu to desu
>>60725639
i just figured this out too.
----GENESIS----
Top Tier (10/10)-
Selling England, Lamb Lies Down, Foxtrot
Second tier (8-9/10)-
Nursery Cryme, Trespass, Abacab
Third Tier (6-7/10)-
Trick of the Tail, Wind and Wuthering, Duke, S/T
Fourth Tier-
all the early/mid live albums, Genesis to revelation
Fifth Tier-
Invisible/Dance
Genesis is just better in the studio.
Calling all stations is garbage
Some of their solo stuff had its moments, but meh.
Nursery Cryme is underrated. Fountain of Samalcis makes me hard.
Crimson is about as good as them, but I rank Crim a bit higher because they kept reinventing rather than having a big old downward curve.
Giant, Tull, and Yes are all great in their day but curved even harder down by the mid 70s.
Y'all need to check out PFM.
>>60726354
Hell yeah, italian prog doesnt get enough love
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso is also a good band
>>60725639
>>60726069
newcunts fresh of the boat from reddit detected
>>60727417
Sorry I don't fulfill my quota of desu usage
I've listened to a shit-ton of prog rock, and I have to say I like it when it leans towards jazz. These albums struck gold for me.
Hiro Yanagida- Milk Time (1970)
Pekka Pohjola- Pihkasilmä Kaarnakorva (1972)
Yonin Bayashi- 触即発 (1974)
Arti & Mestieri- Tilt - Immagini Per Un Orecchio (1974)
Heldon- "Allez-Teia" (1975)
Focus- Ship of Memories (1976)
Happy The Man- s/t (1977)
Dixie Dregs- What If (1978)
National Health- Of Queues and Cures (1978)
I've learned to stay away from 80s prog. For whatever reason, the music seems to have a devastating lack of energy compared to the 70s. The only decent 80s prog album that comes to mind is Low Flying Aircraft's s/t album (1987), and that's probably because guys like Bill Bruford were in it. Of course I'd love to be proven wrong if anyone knows any 80s prog or jazz-rock groups that are fantastic.
>>60727562
Saving. Will give these all a listen
>>60721863
>>60720842
Only good ones ITT
>>60727588
Oh cool, I hope you enjoy these. Also fuck, forgot another good one!
Quiet Sun- Mainstream (1975)
>>60727562
>Arti & Mestieri- Tilt - Immagini Per Un Orecchio (1974)
this thing is literal fire Tbh pham man those drums nigga
To many plebs itt desu senpai
>>60727874
I'll be frank - I never got what the deal with Soft Machine was. I feel like their work didn't age as well as other prog groups from the same period. It's okay, but that album doesn't have any really high points for me.
>>60726354
>Y'all need to check out PFM.
If there's a single prog band that curved down hard by mid 70s. Phew.
>>60727562
>Pekka Pohjola- Pihkasilmä Kaarnakorva (1972)
>Yonin Bayashi- 触即発 (1974)
>Arti & Mestieri- Tilt - Immagini Per Un Orecchio (1974)
God tier taste tbhfam
>>60727662
>Quiet Sun- Mainstream (1975)
And you just made it even better, that album is pure gold.
Why don't you guys like neo prog?
GOAT prog coming through. Richard
Harvey has compositional skills that trump most of the prog composers. Plus he's a master of the recorder
He's even tight homies with John Williams the guitar gangster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGj-nKV_Lh0
>>60729806
cause it's cheesy
>>60722465
that's not even a fair accusation
entirely subjective and open to interpretation
but in no way based in reality
You guys seem pretty into this and my gf has mentioned them a few times. Where should I start
>>60731487
with prog or genesis?
Selling England will give you a good start, foxtrot after that.
If you want into prog then look for a chart or go to progarchives
>>60722880
no rush
no elp
Discarded
>>60732719
>no rush
>no elp
Michael Bay of prog
>>60731428
>complaining about cheese in prog
ayy
