Which is more avant garde?
>>60696523
is left the second disc?
>>60696533
yup
Trout Mask is pretty fucking entry level
Well, it's quite easy
One is music, and one is NOT music.
gmgn obviously
>>60696555
ok but that has nothing to do with my question
>>60696523
Is that even a question
1st one, even though it's shit
>>60696555
explain which one isn't music and why
>>60696550
explain why it's entry level
>>60696575
explain why it's shit
>>60696569
Yes it does
The one that isn't music clearly is more avant garde because it's not fucking music
>>60696600
Define music and explain why GMGN isn't music
record. Also because in collective improvisation they can be more focused as they control each other and are controlled by each other. In solo works, Sachiko tends to focus on high long tones, Nakamura on dance music, and Yoshihide, well... on everything else. Together, they tone down their obsessions - for better results. On that date, they are also experienced enough in how to play their instruments and make things surprisingly variable.
2. It's truly one of the most radical things in music. Modern music is radical - so this is the "modernest" music. At the very least, it gives you comforting affirmation that music is virtually inexhaustible.
3. We have "absolute music", I would call this "absolute sound". Apart from other efforts coming from Noise field, these sounds are very thin and angular. Its thinness is surprising. It's related to conform sounds as abstract triangles and squares to real objects. This is musical geometry, a basic set of shapes and forms.
>>60696600
Then my farts are more avant garde
4. Yet I feel like this basic set is used to tell stories, in a similar way as those Mondrian's squares and lines surpass simple space dimensioning. I honestly feel like the music is really programmatic as the titles of pieces implies. Morning is lazy, slowly evolving, unable to get up and get coherently together. Maybe hangover? There's a short snapshot of marketplace in the afternoon, and a long entry in the pubs at evening. Long sine wave on which other sounds are hung also reminds me of narrow streets in Barcelona, on both sides with pubs and coffee shops packed by people watching football and cheering. It also maybe lost person finding its way through busyness of bars. Night lays down more and more quietly, but with several wake ups - but not uncomfortable. Like when you wake up in the middle of the night and you find someone else in the kitchen unable to sleep as well. It captures the spirit of one ordinary day.
5. There are various things that can put you off here - in this order in my opinion: 1. it doesn't make any sense; 2. it may cause earache; 3. it's boring; 4. it's lacking depth or is uninteresting. I think - partially in accordance - that this is something like surface scratching. I think all those basic sounds, restrained approach and stoic philosophy matches the mundane aspect of program. It's about ordinariness, that in greater and greater intricacy we tend to overlook what always lays here as obvious, but what - when we concentrate - can be equally marvelous as anything deep. It's musical equivalent of phenomenological reduction - or better: directly one of it's most famous results: dailiness. But unlike that, this enters through our senses in the most physical way possible.
6. In fact, I don't love this music, this music loves me. (Though I love to be loved.) This isn't unfriendly record: I can't think of something else so transparent. Mark Kozelek is honest and confessional, but he's a real man, and that cannot be transparent. And there comes the nicest part: once you acknowledge this is all collective improvisation of three real people, but it still remains transparent. And then - there is only one feeling that was transparent in my life in relations to other people - feeling of being loved by someone. Even if it may be just because I have 0% fancy for doubts. (And if you consider all this babble to be a bullshit, please apply this last remark, mutatis mutandis, to the music itself.)
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>>60696694
did you get out of your house yet
>>60696523
>Which is more avant garde?
if you're asking what's more avant-garde
it's [spoiler]trout mask replica[/spoiler] obviously and ostensibly
>>60696694
this sine waves signifies the lack of reality. low frequencies signifies loss of importance of the self. if you believe communism capitalism god etc or if you are living to get a new car or for the tv show you gonna watch tomorrow dont listen to this record. you cant appereciate this recording or you gonna just pretend due to its popularity.
>>60696736
made me laugh tbqh
>>60696523
good morning is the more avant-garde, tmr is the better album
if we adjust avaent gardenesss to accoutn for the relase date of each thing then trout man replica is/was more avant grade. however good morning good night is the better and mroe enjoyable thing
What is the most avant-garde album of all time?
>>60697026
I don't get it
How is it enjoyable?
They only sort of enjoyable thing is the insanely high frequencies that sort of feel like I have tinnitus
>>60697243
how is cute girls enjoyable
how is a tasty meal enjoyable
how is outer space enjoyable
give me a break anon
>>60696555
Le trout man album is shit and isn't even music meme XD
>>60696523
dumb trout poster
GMGN is undoubtedly more avant grade, in the classical sense that it's more experimental and more distinctly different than anything considered normative music.
TMR's better though.
>>60697975
the content on gmgn had been going down for several years before his release though
so he was like the guys that went in after the avant garde and raped everyone and stole art
tmr is really more avant-garde for its time than that piece of shit
>bleep bloop bssss pfff EEEEEE XDD
can it get anymore avant garde than this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ0C108juTA
