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it sucks, move on
>>60635750
it's an album
niceme.me
it's funny how /mu/ interchanges between a few different avant garde records to expose the plebs
few months ago it was GMGN (making a mini resurgence) and now TMR is back aggravating the normies
All memes aside, this is a good album. I find it enjoyable to listen to, and it has a lot of really solid, good songs. But people hate it because they think everyone claiming to like it must be a tryhard, wannabe hipster type trying to be cool because they "get it" when in reality it's just a meme. And some people figure since it's a meme, it can't possibly be good. I like it; I don't think that makes me better than people who don't like it, or that my taste in music is more patrician or whatever, I don't care about that, I just like it.
>>60638035
The hate against it has nothing to do with "meme status." The hate against it comes from people like me years ago, who listen to it as plebs and think it's shit.
>>60638044
Well, some of the hate comes from that, for sure, but come on, you can't just say NONE of the hate comes from it being a meme. There are people on /mu/ who will hate almost anything that's a meme, like as if no one could possibly be listening to it because it's actually good, it must just be because it's a meme and they've been fooled into thinking it's good.
Feel good album of the year
>>60637942
what the fuck is gmgn
>>60635750
I definitely understand the appeal but it's a bit too over-the-top for me. It feels like it tries too hard. Still a good listen here and there though.
>>60638138
newfag
pretty good album. it actually isn't all that weird once you actually listen past the first song.
>>60638151
>tries too hard
this album literally produced a whole new generation of tryhards that play random shit and call it avant garde.
>>60638151
>It feels like it tries too hard
Yes.
>inb4 autists defends it
>>60638230
>this album literally produced a whole new generation of tryhards that play random shit and call it avant garde.
>implying that album isn't just random shit itself
>>60638151
>>60638230
>>60638270
it doesn't feel like it tries too hard at all, the whole thing seems genuine and sincere if you have more than a /mu/core knowledge of music
>>60638281
>genuine and sincere
>same as having talent
>random noises
>>60638089
Memes fucking suck but that album wasn't made to be a meme. It was made to be whatever the fuck Beefheart was wanting it to be. I like the album. I think the lyrics are pretty good (except for a few songs), I think the compositions are spontaneous and oddly satisfying.
Vaporwave and a lot of other present day music inspired by this album is usually meme status.
>>60638307
tell me how this isn't talented and how the FUCK it could be random noises, newfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6eHunEysA
>>60638270
>>implying that album isn't just random shit itself
I think that's what he was trying to say
>>60638270
>not listening past frownland
The only reason this album is a meme is because it's "funny" to show TMR to people who aren't already interested in free jazz, unmetered music. It's difficult music if you're interested in catchy melodies and familiar time signatures but otherwise saying this record "tries too hard" isn't valid criticism.
>>60638354
>unironically using the word 'newfag'
I did not say it was a bad album, but in any form to say that album has talent in it is absurd.
>>60638373
And I was not mistaken
Pretty much the apex of rock.
>>60638419
>>60638307
>>60638270
>>60638151
>>60637495
>being this pleb
>>60638419
>being mad that I called you a newfag
newfag
>but in any form to say that album has talent in it is absurd.
tell me how the link (Hair Pie Bake 2) displays lack in talent, idiot
>>60638419
>in any form to say that album has talent in it is absurd
>>60638406
>unfamiliar time signatures
most of this album is in 4/4 though
>>60638419
you are absolutely autistic, friendo
>>60637495
>>60637915
>>60637942
>>60638151
>>60638270
>>60638307
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>>60638373
If you don't love this album you are not a rock enthusiast. It is plain and simple. To all who will disagree and respond, please post your favorite album.
>>60638526
it exhibits features of irregular time and you know it
a bunch of racket with juvenile free associated lyrics. It's not even like an aurally assaulting racket, which I would be ok with, it's like really benign racket. It's a boring album. You could spend, i dunno, an indefinite amount of time explaining the background and concept behind it and i swear i wouldn't think it was any better.
>>60638848
yeah i know it does, but there are also songs like china pig and moonlight in vermont which have regular 4/4 signatures.
>>60638734
Not him but by you needing to reply to him shows that you're the one that is autistic.
>>60638902
then go listen to some more music, ya idjit. Give less of a fuck shooting down explanations about the background and context and go fucking listen to what's actually constitutes the background and context.
You should go find as much fucking rock as you can from 1967, 1968, and 1969, listen to it all, listen to Trout Mask Replica, and then listen to the other stuff again. If your first thought isn't "WHERE THE FUCK DID THAT EVEN COME FROM??? HOW???" then you fucking don't think.
You assholes really just want to be right about this album. So do I, but here's the fucking difference. If I'm right, and this album actually is pretty damn great, then that means all the established critics and musicians who've been praising for years are pretty much right too. But if you're right, then that validates all you pre-teen tryhards whose only shot at a legitimate thought about music is that this TMR stuff sucks so nananaboo boo I'm musicklord better than you do.
>>60639029
Chill, your autism is showing. Why are you trying so hard to convince random strangers on the internet.
>>60639051
Because it's 2:00 am and I can't play vidya since my arrow key just broke
>>60639029
why would i listen to rock from the late 60s when it's literally the bottom-of-barrel art form
>>60639069
oh fuck yeah finally, we can agree on something. That you are in fact an idiot.
>>60639083
degenerate rock fan detected
>>60639104
I CLAIM THIS VICTORY
Just annoying
>>60639190
>another autistic retard
>>60639129
right. hit me up when frank zappa comes back to life, travels back to the 70s, and uses his cool rock techniques to make something more significant than whatever miles davis was doing, or whatever steve reich was doing, or whatever anybody GOOD was doing
>>60639236
i bring up zappa btw because he was cahoots with beefheart and his magic dookey band
>>60635750
>Discuss
it's bursting with life at every seam.
>>60639246
AND B/C THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO YOU KNOW
>>60635750
i burst out laughing the first time i heard Pena
people who don't like this album probaly haven't listened past frownland and the poem that comes after it desu. Incredibly catchy melodies and blues riffs come in throughout most of the album. I would actually argue that if you have listened to any minimal amount of blues and rock then you should thoroughly enjoy this album.
>>60639380
Its a good album but the way these autists praise and defend it as if it is some kind of masterpiece is embarrassing.
A SQUID
>>60638902
okay this is a good argument. maybe it is actually shit.
havent we enough