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Why is all "patrician" music so boring?
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Why is all "patrician" music so boring?
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it isnt

you're just a pleb
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>>60572018
post one patrician song that isn't boring then
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Cuz midway through most of them, I remember I will always be a virgin and want to go An Hero
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>>60571996
coz yur a plen
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>>60572053
No
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>>60571996
why are all patrician album crap
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>uses "boring" as a criticism
plen
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>>60572053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8ESWyyxzvk
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>>60572124
super boring. It's just twangly guitars and a basic drum beat for 7.5 mins.
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>>60571996
Its boring because you're coming from a mainstream perspective of music where music is just supposed to be catchy or fun to dance to. When you hear something that is legitimately experimental, complex, or difficult of course you will find it boring because you have no context.
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>>60571996
>>60571996
Heres some normie music
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>>60572264
https://soundcloud.com/jordan-dyke-1/normal-people-jazz?in=jordan-dyke-1/sets/ofc
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>>60572124
>tago mago
>patrician
kek
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>>60572189
The song is 7 minutes long and you replied 3 minutes after they posted it. Of course the song isn't going to make sense if you don't actually listen to the whole thing.

This is the problem with plebs like you. You don't want to be challenged in any way, you just want instant gratification. You can't even spend the time to listen to a song to see if it's good, you just skim through it.
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>>60572339
When fapping, do you u watch the whole video or just fast-forward to the good parts?
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>>60572446
whole thing, edging is much more exciting than just cumming and getting it over with
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the only good swans is mid period swans jsyk
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>>60572446
>>60572477
You're both degenerates, also, nice false analogy >>60572446, you fucking idiot.
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>>60572446
You see, that's another thing plebs do. I bet you watch 360p streamed porn instead of quality 1080p 60fps rips.
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>>60572446
The fact that you view pornography and music as comparable proves my point. You don't want your music to challenge you or make you actually feel anything. You just want something catchy to get stuck in your head.
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>>60572446
what a shitty analogy
do you treat music the same way you do porn?
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>>60572565
Those are less hot for me honestly.

>>60572339
Maybe some people don't want to be bored for three minutes while they wait for the substance.
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"Patrician" music tends to rely heavy on reserved song writing, repetition, and ambiance.

I don't really get it either, why does "patrician" music always rely on these sensibilities?
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>>60572446
Music ain't porn yo. Why are you even here?
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>>60572633
Maybe if you want to acquire better taste you should learn to appreciate things what aren't instant fun.
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>>60571996
pleb filters
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>>60572446
>watching videos
>not h-manga

Spot the pleb
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>>60572558
>degenerates
>>>/pol/
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>>60572633
It's not boring if you actually listen to it.
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>>60572675
This. It's just an excuse to be lazy honestly.

Most "patricians" are just unapproachable snobs, as evidenced by this thread.
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>>60571996
do you listen to music that you like or music that your friends like?
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>>60572675
That description can fit any music
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>>60572633
Do you skip the introduction of movies that you watch because they don't start out with instant action? Do you skip to the next chapter of a book to see if it's more interesting than the one you're currently reading?

And of course the music will be boring if you just listen to five second snippets of it. Music isn't something that you can experience in an instant. You have to hear what comes before and what comes after those snippets to actually experience it.
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>>60572053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wawSCvuGj4o
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>>60572937
No it can't, dumbass.
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>>60572937
Not, really. For example, power metal, while it can be repetitive, rarely works with ambiance and is anything but reserved
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>>60572675
I feel like it's the opposite, at least as far as repetition and ambiance go. and I'm not sure what you mean by song writing- composition or lyrics? composition is the meat of music of course, so I don't know why you wouldn't want that. and lyrics and context are more important than people admit on /mu/, so nothing wrong with focusing on that either
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsmKSWr99mA
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>>60571996
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Try these, they are some of my favorites:
Taj Mahal Travellers - July 15, 1972
Third Ear Band - Elements
Azonic - Halo
Orthrelm - OV
Pelt - Ayahuasca
Sun ra - Atlantis
Alexander von Schlippenbach - Globe Unity
Art Ensemble of Chicago - People in Sorrow
Anthony Braxton - Saxophone Improvisations Series F
Cecil Taylor - Silent Tongues
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>>60572999
>he didn't post private
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what does patrician mean again i forgot
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>>60572675
>>60571996
>>60572053

want to be soon fed this bad fine


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL-ixFZwzQU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdEK8ghRBIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHei9dSny9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7b2LlbvAwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP87vkD7Tag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNSza0QZIcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNKwYVg6V8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofIgDmr4sNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3FO46D1dqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8WFui_92-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0_GHFK4aJ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLnPd7lzT4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_vptk0JgIM

Why is it all X? because it's what i like. Also shoegaze is very upbeat
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/Pleb General/
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>Listening to Minor Threat
>"That's just screaming over a drum beat"
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>"Why is non Top 40 music boring?"
>"Please post me patrician recs because idk how internet works"
>Listen to a total ten seconds total of second long snippets from a song
>"This is boring"
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>>60572972
power metal is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0IkQJqL3kk

but i still like the sound of swans better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSdTBGhDSg
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>>60573081
That's pleb, if anything.
Except from I am a Lake of Burning Orchids.
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>>60573045
What do you mean?
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>>60573121
strong readings of shit taste
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>>60573081
lmao
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>>60573081
>death grips
>everything everything
>fun.
>patrician
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>>60573136
from mummy and daddy, much more gut-wrenching than bird seed
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>>60572984
Maybe it's because when I first started listening to /mu/-core stuff I was really into ultra-chatotic math-core and prog. metal, but i found the compositions of the songs to be rather simple and quiet. I'm definitely not saying it's a bad thing, however it does make getting into the music really hard, if not down right impossible for me because the lot of it really just isn't my thing.

As for the repetition and ambiance, the first time I listened to Sawns for example, here's what I was thinking throughout the album.
>"They've been playing this riff for at least the past 5 minutes, is this actually going anywhere?"
>"Ok gr8, 6 minutes of nothing but an annoying obnoxious humming sound"

Granted, I'm over simplifying things, but it bored me to tears.

I'm willing to admit there's a good change it's just me though, I could very well just be too stupid to get it
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>>60573187
ill agree with deathgrips and everything everything i posted them because they are frequently discussed

But fun's first album is top tier pop, used to be /mu/core before the second album came out anyway.
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>>60573219
My first time listening to Whitehouse, looked up the album and decided to post that song, listening to it now.
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>>60573114
Honestly if all of Swans was like the song you posted I'd find them more interesting
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>>60573234
May just be the most pleb thing I've read on this board.

Holy fuck, you might actually be retarded. You clearly have absolutely zero attention span.

Get off this bored, and enjoy your shitty, pretentious, wank-fest you imbecile
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>>60573081
I should probably add some more shoegaze to prove the upbeat stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4CKmzBf5Cs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA1Ph6SpTkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96qQ6y_QpIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikSIwrJQj0A
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>>60573234
Proof that Hella is the downfall of music
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>>60573414
asobi seksu is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05BZmwOVLPk
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>>60572053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSdTBGhDSg
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>>60572477
say goodbye to cumming in vagina
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>>60572446
kek
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The whole Pleb/Patrician thing was a meme until people started taking it seriously.

Now instead of judging music based on how good it sounds people on here base music on it's experimental value. That's what Patrician is; valuing music based on it's experimental merit. That's why people like hogwash like Death Grips and Swans.

To become patrician you must manipulate your mind to like bad music.
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>>60573720
lol, you have no idea of what you're talking about. "patrician" was nothing more but a joke/troll term started by CLT to categorize music he liked. It has nothing to do with experimental merit, it's effectively meaningless.
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>>60573841
>"patrician" was nothing more but a joke/troll term started by CLT to categorize music he liked.
>The whole Pleb/Patrician thing was a meme until people started taking it seriously.
Did you even read the first part of my post?
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>>60572214
pretty much the best answer in the thread.
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Rockist get out pls
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>>60573282
They've got heaps of songs like that, just gotta get used to their country influences to find them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU23MtwF-aE
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>>60573282
Swans is worth getting into, Screenshot is like that, Some Things We Do is more varied, shorter and creepy, like a normal song, and Kirsten Supine is slower but more melodic, just all of TBK is just really good, I listened to The Seer too, and besides lunacy and The Seer it was pretty forgettable in comparison, 8/10 at most
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>>60571996
because you're a plebeian
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>>60573841
CLT?
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>>60574304
Try Xiu Xiu. I love them so much I cant imagine anyone hating it
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>>60572675
You're mistaken. True patrician music contains none of what you listed at all
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>all of the people itt accepting the term boring as a concrete and objective way of criticizing music
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>>60576760

boring post 2bh
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>>60572189
>can
>a basic drum beat

kill self
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>>60576768
it's not an inherently boring post. it's a post that you, as an active audience, found to be boring.
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>>60576839

meta boring response 2bh
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>>60576890
lol
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>>60573411
I can't wait until you realize that your "superior" taste means nothing.
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>>60577124

not that anon but in death it might mean nothing, but in life it definitely remains a factor.
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>>60572053
Not really a "song". but if you think this is boring than you are literally a pleb who doesn't like music past a superficial level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HohFSu9H49A
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>>60577206
I dont think so. It says nothing about your own achievements or intelligence.
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>>60577247
If only you knew that Bach is the plebiest of the classical musicians
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>>60571996

who is this guy?
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>>60577321

>I dont think so.

because you're in denial. if a man can get a laid because he has good taste in dress and other things that appeal to women then taste obviously plays a role in the real world.
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>>60577344
This.
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>>60577407
Yeah, but women don't have good taste in music, therefore it won't get you laid, therefore it is meaningless.
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>>60577432

>Yeah, but women don't have good taste in music

and this all started off with you criticizing anon for his pretentiousness. lol.
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