Post some pictures of weird sheet music.
>>60425747
>>60425773
meme desu
>>60425794
Holy shit, is their a word filter? I said desu.
>>60425841
newfag normie desu
>>60425794
>>60425841
looks like a rautavaara piano concerto
This is why tab is better
>>60425911
Eh, Rautavaara's music doesn't look that crazy. I learned his 1st piano concerto.
But, I never saw the score to his 2nd piano concerto, and that's the most complicated and the only atonal one.
>142/8
>>60425952
but anon, tab is incapable of denoting rhythm without resorting to standard note stems. And it only really works for instruments with frets. Real musicians work with notes, not numbers. You dont say "play me a 14th fret on the E string" you say "play me an F#"
>>60426409
>>60425952
yee tab is pretty much for casuals learning pop jams at home
>>60425992
thats fucked up:
>ok,ok *sucks on bong* subdivide the first note into TWENTY THREE units tee hee hee
>AND THEN subdivide the NEXT not into TWENTY TWO notes *rips bong*
>the difference is CRITICAL *passes out*
![attachment[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VhWDpDA.jpg "attachment[1].jpg")
https://youtu.be/0-BBKAesYKM
>>60426496
Its pretty casual compared to some scores. At least you only have to deal with one subdivision at a time and not 4+ polyrhythms.
I'd be surprised if Rautavaara smoked weed too
>>60426765
uh, thats like for 40 instruments, pal.
get a sense of humor.
>>60425747
Dem tone bars. Is that from a Henry Cowell jam? Dynamic Motion, i think?
>>60426765
shoo poly
ferneyhough is shit by the way
>>60427020
Ferneyhough is a composer's composer.
If the compositional process isn't something you spend a lot of time thinking about, Ferneyhough probably wont appeal to you.
I really enjoy most of his music, you need to look for micro details though. Can be hard to digest.
Do you actually like 20th century music? Schoenberg / Webern / Carter etc?
Reposting best cello concerto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upiBcABxA0w
i resurrect thee from page 10
Regarding breathing/humming in performances; the third movement of this is played beautifully, but I think the sharp inhaling is just too much.
I don't know if this is much more than usual or if there are other musicians who do this more. Is it common?
3rd movement start 19:10
I like the whole thing, also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzF3C-GZkSo
Neeme Järvi, Kristjan Järvi, or Paavo Järvi?
Hey guys, trying to expand my tastes.
I'm trying to get into Bruckner and Shostakovich at the moment, but don't know where to begin.
What are babies beginner symphonies to listen to from these guys?
>>60431002
https://mega.nz/#!PE4CySRR!0eaNdtrlQzKzS-8yxU-a8RFsWMNepPzH7gSp8-6io1Q
https://mega.nz/#!WcpHEYRK!5y0mk3xzikVw8LFTjcyxT5wytGttxjW5vvNzHB2wQU4
https://mega.nz/#!udIWhRCZ!UUgaUyJq3i9DbLBLVjnQsAy-kzEnf5HMN3x5AwpF6yY
https://mega.nz/#!HBwDgAqL!vNdTbR67LtAqogo_vZbddDu-rquy7DhbyoOgqWOCW6c
Get this too, it's on rutracker I'm pretty sure.
>>60431002
Shostakovich 5 is the only one I've ever really listened to from him. I very much enjoy it, so I guess it's a good start for him. It's his most popular, I think.
I'm not anywhere close to non-pleb with regards to him.
>>60431002
Shostakovich 7 and 14
>>60431002
Listen to Shosty's string quartets instead.
>>60431108
>>60431099
>>60431069
>>60431068
wow, thanks for the quick responses, and not shit posting.
Every other time i come here i never see help like this.
thanks guys
>>60431134
Start with bruckner 4
>>60425773
>with pesto
˙͜>˙
I really can't get into Wagner, guys. I officially give up.
Parsifal and Meistersinger were decently enjoyable, but Tristan and the Ring are unlistenable trash. Ironically the 2 that are considered his best.
It literally sounds like white noise to me. What am I missing here?
>inb4 muh leitmotifs
>>60432939
i can't really either, but i really enjoyed his siegfried idyll though
Underrated symphonies?
>>60433599
Martinů 4, Schnittke 2. Every Penderecki symphony. most Lutoslawski symphonies.
>>60433599
Dvorak 7
Szymanowski 3
Mendelssohn 2
Shostakovich 11-14
Maxwell-Davies' symphonic output is also pretty good
>>60432939
Guess you don't like his middle period.
Maybe you'll like his earlier stuff, check out Tannäuser, Lohengrin, and Der Fliegende Holländer in that order.
Hi /classical/
Does anyone here compose some art music?
What advice would you give to someone willing to try?
>>60436077
Let the muse sit on your face and heartily climax.
Why is Handel so underrated, bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMVfiKjKVNo
(terrible performance, im sorry)
>>60436610
Thanks m80
I got this guys.
>>60437477
Heh. Zorn's Book of Heads outweirds this to infinity.
>tfw wanted to listen to some scriabin stuff i've never heard before but took a shower and got water in my right year and now i won't be able to enjoy his dank timbres for like 12 hours
Solo piano for this feel?
>>60438380
Listen to anything on a harpsichord, that'll make your ears feel better :^)
>>60438465
I'll have to clog both ears for that.
>>60426409
man dude
tab is unnecessary bullshit and harder to actually learn a piece of music from
and usualy tab isn't even right either
Post spamcore composers
mega:///#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
whats the password for old world christmas pomerium?
i'm probably going to catch a lot of flak, but i thought /classical/ is more appropriate for this than /prod/
https://clyp.it/c20q5p2i
i'm fairly musically illiterate but i'm trying to pull my shit together, i know 80% of this song is filler but i'd like some criticism and advice on where to take it and whether to continue working on it at all.
>>60438838
Pic unrelated
>Gardiner has a new recording of the B minor mass
Anyone listen to it? Is it any good? Better or worse than his 1st recording?
>>60440140
If it's anything like his Cantata cycle, I'll probably like it much better than his earlier Bach recording.
>>60440140
Got a friend in the choir for that actually, been meaning to check it out
>>60427781
actually i like a lot of the composers as you but ferneyhough is straight up shit. and yes I like 20th century bartok, schnittke, rautavarra, schönberg and sibelius are among some of my favourites
>>60432939
i feel the same way. there's nothing interesting in wagners music. nothing different, just the same texture throughout the whole piece.
>>60436077
if you ask this question you're 100% sure to have poly post his shit fugues in response
>>60438838
shosty and wagner are both spam composers
Threadly reminder that Bach is the patron saint of autism.
>>60440367
And there is literally nothing wrong with that
Greatest Composers
1. Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750)
2. Ludwig van Beethoven (1770-1827)
3. Joannes Chrysostomus Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart (1756-1791)
4. Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)
5. Dmitri Dmitrievitch Chostakovitch (1906-1975)
6. Franz Peter Schubert (1797-1828)
7. Karlheinz Stockhausen (1928-2007)
8. Achille-Claude Debussy (1862-1918)
9. Wilhelm Richard Wagner (1813-1883)
10. Frank Vincent Zappa (1940-1993)
11. Igor Fiodorovitch Stravinsky (1882-1971)
12. Béla Viktor János Bartók (1881-1945)
13. Don Glen Vliet (1941-2010)
14. Olivier Eugène Charles Prosper Messiaen (1908-1992)
15. Giuseppe Fortunino Francesco Verdi (1813-1901)
16. Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)
>>60441827
>Stockhausen
>Zappa
>Beefheart
>great composers
>underrating Mozart
>>60441827
Where did you find this delightful piece of memery?
>>60441827
>>60425841
did they change desu to desu?
>>60441827
lol
>>60441827
>Mozart
>anywhere even near the top 20
This is how you spot a pleb.
>>60444650
Agreed. He should be No. 1.
>>60441827
>Zappa
>Beefheart
Kek. Found this list on reddit I'm guessing?
>>60444767
looks like a rym list desu
>>60426491
I learned more in two months with a violin and some music books than I did in over 4 years playing guitar with tabs. At least, I feel that I have a much more universal understanding of music and composition as a whole, rather than just the guitar. I was amazed at how small bits of theory so greatly increased my enjoyment in both playing and listening. The mind of a great composer must be a very beautiful thing.
>>60440367
He's the patron saint of alphas. nothing autistic about Bach's life.
/classical/ please help
what is the piece playing at 9:20 http://kissanime.to/Anime/Shinsekai-Yori/Episode-09?id=41
I know I'm a dumb weeb pleb, still thanks for any input
>>60447446
Dvorak Symphony No. 9, second movement.
That cor anglais is unmistakable
>>60444828
some of his other lists
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Hiver
>>60447611
hey thanks, that was killing me
>>60438940
>i'm fairly musically illiterate
It really shows, sorry anon. This isn't even music.
Listen to some organ pieces and study some scores.
>>60436077
go to university/college and study music
Usually people who write already write music, they just need to learn to write for classical instruments. If you dont write music already you're probably not going to magically be able to write classical.
>>60436020
High school band room bulletin board-core
>>60447819
>The 100 Greatest Records Of All Time
Literally Scaruffi.
>>60448241
>this isn't even music
Come on, that's really no way to encourage someone who's just starting out.
>>60438940
It is pretty clear that you don't know much about music, to be frank. But you do know, or at least have a sense of, development. Your piece (or improv?) kind of has a rocky start, but you introduce a motif repeated constantly, you slowly add material to it (a low "melody" line at sometime before halfway, a high flourish of sorts near the end) and you vary that material slowly throughout.
Quite honestly, a sense of development is one of the most important things to have as a composer, almost equally important as having actual music theory knowledge. Many composers (and by that I mean me) obsess over learning about music theory and then struggle with creating compelling music with all our advanced chromatic harmonies. So you actually have a good starting point here.
I'm on an Organ Kick, anyone know some good pieces?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTRR0XCElpI
I'm quite liking this cello concerto by Hisatada Otaka: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NZf7T1w_pPg
I've been trying to learn counterpoint off of Fux's book, and I keep noticing that my practice compositions sound rather pop-like (at least, in terms of chord progressions).
Is that ok? Does it just sound like pop chords, because pop music just took these theoretically sound chords and over used them?
Also, I'm having trouble getting a good sounding cadence for the Phrygian mode. Am I on the right track with this? (3rd species, 3 part counter point in the E phrygian mode or whatever it's called)
holy shit I didn't even know Robert Craft died
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/15/arts/music/robert-craft-stravinsky-adviser-and-steward-dies-at-92.html?_r=0
>>60438940
learn rudiments
learn harmony
learn counterpoint
learn form
compose the whole time using stuff you learned and experiment with stuff you haven't learned
learn to play and instrument to a performance standard
enjoy art in a critical way
learn to speak german russian and french
become a hermit
Hope you like part-writing exercises, welcome to the secret club
>>60449824
>cadence for the Phrygian mode
Does fux allow anything other than a perfect cadence? if he does, you could try a v–iv6–V "phrygian cadence"
>Student orchestra at my uni playing Dvorak 7 next semester
It probably won't be amazing, but it's nice to it's finally getting some recognition. Plus since it's getting paired with Rach concerto 2 (bleuch) it'll probably attract lots of people to spread the awareness further
>>60441827
>3.
Further proof.
>>60431002
>>60454525
>tfw all that coughing
Bumpeggio.
>>60441827
>seinfeldimdone.gif
>>60426077
I don't even know where to begin with this
What the fuck
>>60456271
You just wait for the venue to be bombarded.
