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>I-V-vi-IV
I - iv - V/V - V - vi - iv/vi - V/vi - vi - V - I
>I-V7/IV-IV-iv
i-VII-VI-V
>>60186516
What's the problem provided the next chords are going to be a iii-vi-V/V-V
The classic
>I - IV - V
>>60186516
ii-V-I
>vi - VI - V - I
>>60186569
>implying anyone on /mu/ knows what secondary dominants are
>>60188806
>implying
E major in C major is 2cool
>>60188806
see
>>60186579
there's a few musicians here
i - V7/iv - iv - V - Ger+6
>>60188914
>using a german 6 instead of using the superior french 6
>using it to resolve to the tonic instead of the subdominant
>>60188950
>muh proper resolution
get out of here pepebert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lBjaajrJc
Someone tell me how you would analyse this in Roman numerals
>>60189030
Probably: $ |-| I T
>>60188950
>not using the pentatonic scale
>>60189053
get a score first then go through it with a fine toothed comb and your prof
>cxi
>>60189064
what the fuck did you just say
>>60188950
>Not using the Austalian sixth chord
Since this is the most relevant thread at the moment (and I am on mobile and cannot post a new thread instead), does it count as a musical period if (in a minor key) the first phrase ends on a III chord instead of a V?
Also, is that a half cadence or is there another name for that kind of end to a phrase?
I don't know what any of this means and I play guitar. Thoughts?
>>60189250
post the roman numerals. You can technically do whatever you want, but III to i might sound weird.
>>60189252
it's not bad per se, because you should use your ear to write and music theory to analyze, but learning theory is never a bad idea. I prefer jazz notation, but roman numerals have their place
>>60189327
Well, I mean that the phrase ends on III, not that it ends on III - V.
The chord progression as a whole is:
i - VI6 - ii° (vii°/III?) - III
The melody of this phrase ends on the fifth scale degree, so I imagine the best chord to begin the consequent phrase is V.
>>60189570
you could call the III a V/VI and start the phrase with VI. it would have to be a dom7 because of the fifth scale degree. I don't know the melody but I'll spitball some chords
VI - IV/bVII (meaning the flat seven of i is in the bass) - vii(dim) - i
sorry I don't have a piano to check myself, but that attempts to keep the chromatic thing going
What is this, Final Fantasy
>>60186516
>>60186569
>>60186579
>>60186687
>>60186730
>>60186823
>>60187173
>>60188806
>>60188854
>>60188869
>>60188914
>>60188950
>>60189010
>>60189055
>>60189116
>>60189570
>>60189807
fucking music theory nerds lol
get the fuck out of here this board is not for you
>>60190188
Where does one discuss music theory if not the music board?
>>60189807
Oh, I hadn't considered that possibility. Thanks.
I'm a bit confused about what you mean with the IV/bVII, though. Could you spell it out, in, say, c minor? (Since my melody is in that key.)
>>60191164
i dont know, go ask newmoot for some new faggot tier board for music theory /mut/ or something stupid like that
just from him creating /aco/ and /his/ my bet is he'll succumb to your requests
>>60191275
F major with a Bb in the bass
>>60191277
I would kill for a board like that. And captcha would be music theory questions to keep plebs like you out
>>60191435
a pleb like me? like me?? bitch, i am the patricianest guy you'll ever interact in your whole life
>>60191572
>patrician
>shitting on the framework for analyzing music
pick one
>>60191660
i pick both :^)
>>60191572
posts like this remind me there's a concious being typing and clicking post
>Was taught how to read music
>Was taught basic music theory
>Produces music in spare time on ableton
>Only has a vague idea of what this thread is talking about
should i just an hero?
>>60193243
its okay cause I have no idea what they're talking about
How are suspended chords written in numerals? Would IVsus4 be correct?
>>60193243
What's confusing you precisely?
What's the context? Is the suspended 4th going to resolve downwards (to a simple IV chord)? If so it's not really worth notating as separate from the IV chord (though you could note the suspension independently).
>>60194076
shit, meant to quote >>60193336
On the subject of harmonic progressions, videos like these are seriously cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNwk9_bbr0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juNxRYBWB9g (warning for those with perfect pitch)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwk3BKipjtQ
>>60186516
I-VI-iv-VII-V/V-III
eat that modal shit
>>60193913
i dont really know chords and i dont know what the fuck the roman numerals represent
I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
>>60194429
How do you produce music if you don't know chords?
Anyway, the roman numerals represent the chords in whatever key you're in. Key of C, I is C major, ii is Dm. V/V is a secondary dominant, in this case it's D major (the fifth chord up from G, which is the fifth chord up from C). Help at all?
>>60194545
Yeah dude I love Wire
>>60186516
I-I-I-I-I-I-bVII-I
>>60191572
wouldn't a patrician be well versed in music theory?
>Staying in one key
casuals
>>60194618
Not who you replied to but does lower case mean minor?
>>60195155
Not who you replied to, but yes.
>>60195047
>f#: i
>b: V
>>60195177
Whoops. Meant to quote >>60195047.
>>60195177
how do you denote other types of chords? Is it just a shorthand teaching tool?
>>60195197
Major triads are either Maj, maj or rarely M.
Minor triads are m or min.
Diminished triads are dim.
Augmented chords are + (for example, FAC# is F+
I could go on with sevenths or certain chromatic triads if you wanted. But I have no idea how tone clusters and quartal/quintal chords are notated. Personally I'm fond of integer notation (writing them out based on their position on the chromatic scale).
this thread is interesting, bump
I - V - IV
Every green day song ever
>implying music theory matters
>implying any of you wouldnt give your left testicle to be able to write a catchy I-IV-V tune that people like
>>60186883
ii-v-I rules, get out.
>>60197302
If I wrote something catchy that people like, that I don't like, it wouldn't matter to me.
>>60186823
I'm not saying it ruins a song or something this simple is played out, but I actually get so annoyed when I hear shit indie bands with big huge produced music, and the songs are just an overblown I - iv - v. I can't imagine the type of person who writes a song that simple and devoid of any imagination, and then proceeds to write this big-deal melody, and cake it in big-deal production. Have they never gone outside before? Do they listen to music?
>>60197302
I write catchy things that people like and my rule is that if I'm using a musical cliche then I at very least build on it, as opposed to just cutting and pasting convenient cadences that don't go anywhere.
>>60197302
>>implying any of you wouldnt give your left testicle to be able to write a catchy I-IV-V tune that people like
>making music people like instead of stuff you like
by following that formula the the matrix movie would never be made because many saw the movie and said "wow I would never think of that idea"
>>60190188
you seem agitated. nice repeating digits tho [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]
>>60194429
>>60193243
>should i just an hero?
definately
>>60191572
Lol I like this guy
>>60194618
So what's the difference between V/V and II then?
>>6019918
It's a matter of the function of the chord. Technically no difference but there are some implications.
V/V will almost always resolve to V
V/V is usually major/dominant in a major key, II is usually minor (written as ii).
I'd write D7 G7 C as V/V V I
But D- G7 C as ii V I
