ITT: AOTY 2015
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ITT: AOTY 2015
>>53762120
not a fan of metal, will i like this?
you first
>yfw the hottest rap song of 2015 is on a an avant-garde reggae album
>>53762146
not even fans of metal like this shit
>>53762146
Yes
>>53762289
avant-gospel
>>53762146
maybe
>>53762146
i don't know
>>53762146
well this isn't even metal
>I turn your ashes to gold
>you repay me with vitriol
Such a good line.
somebody shoot my fucking face off please
>>53763779
so, it didn't meet your expectations, i presume?
Legendary review.
>>53762120
Just started listening to this for the first time.
DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOT DOOT
Fuckin sounds like Pokemon rubys soundtrack
>>53764067
Pretty funny indeed, IF it's a joke review. Can't be sure in these memey times.
>>53764067
on point review - would agree with again
Now that I have listened to the whole thing.. yeah, this isn't very good. There are a couple decent tracks but the midi horns and fanfare shit gets old very fast. Most of the tracks sound the same.
I went into this with an open mind but this really does sound like a bit of a joke.
/r/ing link to Hunter's transcendental black metal pamphlet
It's supposed to release on March 3, how the fuck did you guys already listened to it ?
It leaked ?
>>53765659
No shit, Sherlock.
>>53765659
we were all invited to his crappy one bedroom apartment where we listened to the album from his laptop speakers. we all made fun of it and he started banging his head against the wall and crying.
is the Liturgy album leaked or something?
Not really a fan of this album, pale in comparison to Aesthethica. My complaints:
>clean vocals
>fucking bagpipes
>HHH trying to rap?
>hardly metal anymore
>>53765814
>clearly not metal anymore
ftfy
>>53765808
No fucking shit.
This is probably the worst album I've listened to in a long time and I'm a huge fan of Black Metal and Witch House.
Holy fuck, it was so pretentious and hilariously bad, the second hand embarrassment made me quit after a few tracks. This is such an abysmal garbage I still can't quite fathom it.
link to download pls
I'd listen to it, except Aesthetica was awful except for that one drony song.
>>53765849
Archives.
>>53765848
>and I'm a huge fan of Black Metal
There's your problem.
Can someone post where its leaked?
>>53765871
Don't get me wrong. There is plenty of really shitty Black Metal out there, especially small bands from Europe and all those mediocre bedroom-projects. But The Ark Work is a new level of garbage.
>>53765871
Or the album just sucks.
>>53765895
see >>53765868
>>53765895
I'd show you where but I'm too busy downloading it.
>>53762120
Black metal came of age with this album.
>>53762120
this album was made for high IQ listeners only
i'm listening to it and finding it kind of ridiculous but a lot of fun
definitely going to listen a few more times, i can see myself getting really into this album
defo not for everyone though, these horns are a bit out there but the mix of electronics and blast beats is very appealing to me
good shit man
link?
>>53762120
yeah, maybe if the horns and bells and shit weren't fucking MIDI
This the next viral marketing scheme?
>>53767558
dude, really.
see >>53765868
>>53762120
nice b8 thread op
>>53767569
There really is no excuse for this shit
can someone send it to me?
>>53767616
there are certainly excuses, they just aren't good ones
>>53767621
are you actually fucking retarded
look in the archives
no
>>53762120
a new low for /mu/
>>53767616
It's probably an homage to dungeon synth
>>53767669
it's probably not
>>53767628
What excuses? Liturgy is not a bedroom project and this is their 3rd full length.
Some people make it work but here it really doesn't, it just sounds like shit.
>>53767972
And to think that it took him 4 years... what a fucking joke.
>>53767972
i was essentially agreeing with you when i said that, i meant they'd be like awful excuses such as them not having enough talent to actually record their own shit or something
>>53765584
http://www.radicalmatters.com/metasound/pdf/Hideous.Gnosis.Black.Metal.Theory.Symposium.I.pdf
>>53768039
what's the problem with synthesized orchestration anymore, black metal bands have done this shit for-fucking-ever
>>53768439
there's nothing really wrong with it when it's used in moderation or effectively, but in this album it's overused and just sounds shitty. and then comparing something like that to TMR as many people have been doing is a total joke
also this album isn't black metal. it isn't even metal
the archive is down for me. if one of you guys would give the link I'd appreciate it
>>53768539
same
>>53768539
mega DOT co DOT nz/#!qpR3TbAb!mlHEDnU6-whvZMwOB-8M4V7D0za2VvzdOCNOrCczwfk
from >>53734534
>>53768506
it doesn't bother me much to be completely honest. i like things that are excessive.
>many people
that was precisely one autist samefagging lmao
it's more like Yeezus, or Kid A
so i'm basically saying i agree with the notion of it being kinda crappy (while simultaneously being kinda good).
>also this album isn't black metal. it isn't even metal
didn't say it was, it would seem i implied that, but what i meant is that (black) metal fans that are going to listen to this album, and they probably will, if only to see what the fuss is about, should be used to that shit
ITT: People not into the avantgarde.
Let me throw up a quote for you guys:
>A 1973 performance of Four Organs at Carnegie Hall in New York City nearly caused a riot, with "yells for the music to stop, mixed with applause to hasten the end of the piece."[5] One of the performers, Michael Tilson Thomas, recalls: "One woman walked down the aisle and repeatedly banged her head on the front of the stage, wailing 'Stop, stop, I confess.'"
And here is John Cage performing a composition on TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSulycqZH-U
The reason HHH says "reception is part of the Ark Work" is because it is proof of its true quality, it is true forward-thinking.
This album IS Trout Mask Replica. It IS the true separator between lovers of music and the immature listeners.
I don't know why you guys are bitching about this album.
This shit sounds like the future.
>>53768577
thanks friend
>>53768577
Is it a transcode? Because the zippyshare link was.
>>53768439
Nothing, I fucking love Emperor.
The problem on this album is the arrangements are rather thin, and the overly dry and clinical mix really accentuates how cheap/tacky the orchestral timbres are. It's intended to sound grand or "transcendental", yet the only atmosphere it evokes here is an atmosphere of Fruity Loops.
>>53768610
>This shit sounds like the future.
It sounds like 20 years ago, and not in a good way
>>53768592
Please don't compare this mess with Steve Reich.
Reich actually had interesting musical ideas to contribute beyond extended philosophical diatribes, and they had a profound influence on both popular and art music.
>>53762120
ib this poop-punk
plz responf
>>53768676
I bet Steve Reich is one of the only composers you know, including Glass, Cage, and Riley.
>inb4 n-n-no I know LaMonte Young too!!!
>>53768686
What makes you say that? Because he's popular in non-classical circles?
I like this a lot. My favorite artist is Sufjan
But that's not the new Drake mixtape.
>>53768749
Because you rush to his defense so swiftly, as if you care about him a great deal, instead of just another large icon in the broad history of music.
If you cared about more composers (more non-Minimalists) you wouldn't be so protective of people quoting and comparing him, since you have less value for him specifically and more across the Canon of music as a whole.
That being said, my comment was purely about new ideas being shut out by an ignorant masses. Which makes the comparisons perfectly accurate.
>>53768082
wow thats some next level cringe
>>53768811
His manifesto actually makes perfect sense, and is embodied clearly in his music.
Maybe you are just immature.
>>53766273
>but the mix of electronics and blast beats is very appealing to me
this
2nd track in, and it ain't bad
>>53768860
lol
>>53768915
Good retort.
>>53768811
It's really not. Maybe it's overly verbose but the ideas in it aren't "wrong" because all he's doing is describing his observations. If you don't get it try reading it again without bias.
>>53768915
it probably just didn't "click" for you yet
>>53768792
>If you cared about more composers (more non-Minimalists) you wouldn't be so protective of people quoting and comparing him
That's rather presumptuous of you. An important work shouldn't be considered less valuable simply because you can namedrop more composers. And even if someone does appreciate the entire Canon of music equally, that doesn't effect the quality of a single work. All it effects is context, and a piece of music should be judged on its own merits.
>>53767609
do you have a d/l link for this?
>>53762120
>>53762289
>>53766273
>>53768968
I agree that it should be judged on its merits, and The Ark Work is just as meritorious as TMR. The collision of rhythms, the enjoyment of the individual pieces combining to form a massive whole...but The Ark Work also has many notes of inspired composition. Some of the tracks here feel like developed Post-Rock works rather than Black Metal stagnancy. Just listen to something like Kel Valhaal for the remarkable discordance of vocals with horns with guitars.
I need to listen to this album, because it is truly a great work to take in.
And I think you need to listen to more music, and mature more. I used to be like you: thinking the avantgarde wasn't worth it. You'll grow up some day.
>>53768082
I don΄t know about transcendental black metal, but seeing the albums there it seems HHH has done his study on black metal.
>>53769047
I think it's easy to think that aventgarde isn't worth while because most of it is shit. It's wanky and lifeless but people jizz about how technical or musically impressive it is. But there are definitely worth while aventgarde records, The Art Work seems to be one of them.
>>53768944
i'm not saying it's wrong, it's just an attempt at overintellectualizing ones own music and it comes off ridiculous, to have the audacity to publish something like that, and describe your music as "transcedental", "a final nihilism" makes you a tool
>>53769047
>The Ark Work also has many notes of inspired composition
All HHH wanted to do was meme and you got meme'd alright
>>53769047
Frankly I think the Arc Work is incredibly tame compared to either TMR or Four Organs for that matter . It doesn't really defy traditional musical convention or structure in the same way as those did. It's still rock album at heart, and all it's particularly notable for is using elements of electronic music and post-rock in a black metal context, neither of which are even new ideas. I've yet to hear any convincing arguments as to why this album should be considered musically "innovative".
>And I think you need to listen to more music, and mature more. I used to be like you: thinking the avantgarde wasn't worth it. You'll grow up some day
When did I say the avantgarde wasn't worth it? Again, you're being incredibly presumptuous here.
>"Hippies? You mean like navel-gazing aficionados of the grateful dead [sic]? I hardly think so.
>I think that most people are so disconnected from a natural existence that anyone who doesn’t
see the joy in playing “first person shooters” or dining regularly
at pizza hut is a hippie . . .
i actually think this album is great
i dont know why
>>53769627
i would to but there's literally no excuse or taste in those shitty vocals, MIDI keyboard sounds and terrible mixing. this. is. just. bad. it's so bad mu has no choice but to meme over it.
Proof: this thread
>>53769752
you described three things that i love about this album. it's muddy and digital and whiny and i love that. reminds me of when witch house was popular
>>53768994
I do not
idk what the big deal is this album isnt that weird to me, just some strange things like the vocals and digital effects
but its not like some bizarre thing that i can't tell if its retarded or amazing like people are making it out to be
>>53770416
I agree.
>>53769752
Not everything in life is a meme, friend. I'm sorry you take it that way.
Maybe stop letting people's negative opinions influence you.
Sunbather of 2015
I actually like Haelegen / Reign Array combo. Am I doomed?
No but seriously, I like the instruments on Reign Array and try not to listen to the shitty vocals too much.
>mfw Reign Array
3.5/10 as it is, but would probably be 7-8/10 without the vocals.
9.3/10 as it is, but would probably be a 10/10 without the shitty mixing
every bit as worthy of the "TMR of the 21st century" moniker
>>53770928
normie skum fuck off
>>53770696
actually, Sunbather was the Aesthethica of 2013
>>53770949
What is TMR?
http://www.teethofthedivine.com/featured/interview-with-hunter-hunt-hendrix-of-liturgy/
>o me it is more about bringing together lots of different elements that are unlikely candidates for synthesis and finding a way to alchemically mix them together to forge something new.
>Philosophically it’s about being on the cusp of shame or nonsense – about just barely making sense, just barely holding together, almost unraveling into some kind of hideous bad taste, but getting it to work.
I fucking love this guy
>>53770989
trout mask replica
>>53770995
this is a really good interview too
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/liturgy-hunter-hunt-hendrix-interview
>that chord change at the end of Kel Valhaal
fuuuuuuuuck
this is very akin to Swans' TBK
>>53770867
YES A FACE OF DISGUST
>>53764067
okay thanks Raumfahrer for posting an image of your review.
>tfw Liturgy sound like Animal Collective now
still pretty bangin' tbf
>>53771155
Lol, I'm not even him.
>>53771207
>>53771155
>>53764067
all me :^)
Transcendental Black Metal: another name for experimental rock.
Like seriously, HHH goes on this whole spiel about "transcendental black metal" and it's literally just rock. There's nothing innovative about this, yet people are eating it all up.
link where?
>>53771271
you telling people that they're "eating it all up" is part of the project anon
detractors literally cant win because they're part of the album. HHH is a fucking genius, this is a monumental moment in music history
>>53771271
you sound bitter
>>53771271
it is one of the most innovative releases in popular music ive heard in a very long time. obviously there is a lot of creative music out there but it tends to only heard by small art music communities. its unusual an album this creative and original comes out to such a mainstream fanbase.
>>53771271
Exactly.
No-one can actually name what is supposedly so "avant-garde" about this on a musical level. If this had been released without any prior context of Liturgy being a black metal band, people would've glazed oved it.
>>53771271
He's not trying to cultivate a new genre to appear cutting edge with that tag, try actually reading what he discusses.
>>53771305
It's just an excuse, he knew it was so bad most people would shit on it.
>>53771305
>purposefully being pretentious about 'transcendental black metal' to draw both positive and negative attention
>come out with a bland album
>obviously it's going to cause a shit-storm
>'oh hey i predicted this would happen all along'
>calling that "genius"
>>53771385
Fucking exactly.
>>53771353
>people would've glazed over it
Which is what definitely should have happened.
