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Nope, Kanye's still an asshole.
I finally sat and listened to kanye the other day. I finally understood sportscenter.
Seriously, why do people treat Kanye as though he is good as making music? Hes just another generic pop-rap guy
What he does is no more art than what Beyonce or Bieber does
Scientologists don't deserve awards.
>>53459798
But he's right
>>53459798
jesus fucking christ. didnt think i could hate this guy more.
>>53459798
There's Ryan Adams, but who else DID deserve the award?
all memes aside,
holy shit you guys. Kanye is no longer inhabiting the same planet as the rest of us. He's not going to take it anymore? What's he going to do, beat up the voting committee? What a fucking freakshow
>>53460105
I mean Beck surely didn't have the best Album of the year, but everything he said was utterly ridiculous and Beck makes actual music, not generic shit for teenagers like Beyonce and Kanye
>>53460169
Wait, I didn't watch the whole thing. Are you telling me Beck took home AOTY?!
does he have a crush on Beyonce or something?
it's not like she even contributes to "her" music other than with her singing (which is great, btw), she doesn't write the songs or lyrics, she doesn't direct the videos, she doesnt design her costumes
why does she deserve these awards
>>53460205
i didn't watch, but thats the impression i got
Restraining order
Can’t see my daughter
Her mother, brother, grandmother hate me in that order
>>53460225
They've very good friends, and his best friend's wife.
>>53460225
exactly. Respect artistry my ass.
Why does Kanye think his opinion is so important?
Blame it on the pigment
>“I don’t even know what [Beck] said. I just know that, the Grammys, if they want real artists to keep coming back, they need to stop playing with us. We aren’t going to play with them no more. ‘Flawless.’ Beyoncé’s video. And Beck needs to respect artistry, he should have given his award to Beyoncé. At this point, we tired of it. What happens is, when you keep on diminishing art, and not respecting the craft, and smacking people in the face after they deliver monumental feats of music, you’re disrespectful to inspiration. We, as musicians, have to inspire people who go to work every day, and they listen to that Beyoncé album, and they feel like it takes them to a different place. And then they do this promotional event, and they’ll run the music over somebody’s speech, the artist, because they want commercial advertising. We aren’t playing with them anymore. And by the way, I got my wife, my daughter, and I got my clothing line, so I’m not going to do nothing that would put my daughter at risk, but I am here to fight for creativity. That’s why I didn’t say anything tonight, but you all knew what it meant when ‘Ye stepped on that stage.”
>>53459798
I think whenever Kanye gets even a bit drunk his mind goes right to Beyonce.
>>53460255
because a reporter held a microphone up to his lips so he could speak on the matter?
>>53460288
jesus christ he is such an insufferable douche
if he didn't take himself so seriously this kind of assholery would be kinda funny but it just isn't when he sees himself as this master artist
This just in, Kanye also think Tyler Perry should win the Oscar and he is gonna leave or something if he doesn't
its funny, I was just talking to my friend about how tomorrow there's going to be a plethora of people who somehow missed the joke and will take to social media to highlight their idiocy by yelling about how much of a jerk Kanye is
Good to see /mu/ is still ahead of the curve
>he's a douche because he didn't think someone deserved an award
U wot m8
>>53460348
B-BUT KANYE IS AN INHUMAN ASSHOLE
>>53460319
>if he didn't take himself so seriously
I really doubt he was being that serious when he said it
>>53460105
He isn't.
>>53460151
Bey according to him.
>>53460291
this. If you have a strong opinion on music (most musicians should) and you don't express it like Kanye West, Noel Gallagher, or even Mario Cuomo when questioned then you've failed.
>>53460348
lol nah
If he had said "Well my favorite this year was Beyonce" and left it at that then it would be fine. But when he goes on about the integrity of art (we're talking about pop music here) he looks like an ass
>>53460363
It's not even that, he's just fucking retarded. Just because beyonce is black and beck isn't doesn't put her on any higher artistic ground.
>>53460245
More like, the wife of the nigga that put him on the map.
>>53460319
It's this kind of unironic double speak plus snowden that makes me thing the world is going insane.
>>53460205
>>53460233
Beck won the Grammy for AOTY
Other nominees were Sam Smith, Ed Sheeran, Pharrell, and Beyonce
>>53460384
The best 2014 albums weren't even nominated. They don't let non-smash hit albums be in the AOTY slot.
>>53460443
>Morning Phase
>Smash hit
>>53460441
Those are some shit nominees outside Beck. I'm sure glad he won.
>kanye slowly getting out of that negative stigma he has with the media due to his daughter and working with Paul
>pulls this shit
Come on man. Kind of related but are there any interviews with McCartney where he talks about working with Ye?
>>53460169
Beck hasnt made good music in 10+ years
>>53460465
More so than, say, Pom Pom which undeniably superior. It's at the very least by a critic b8 smah hit artist.
>>53460465
The grammy's have a yearly "Please the hipsters" quota
>mfw Jay-Z is being cucked by Kanye and Beyonce has an affair with Mr. West
>>53460391
coming from the guy who posts on /mu/ where italian bloggers and the word "pleb" are the cornerstone justifications for the quality (or lack there of) of music
>>53460288
The listening to Beyonce takes you to 'a different place' gets me the most.
Fucking Kanye, man.
>>53460348
that's not what people are annoyed about at all. did you watch the vine?
>>53460225
>she doesn't write the songs or lyrics,
She does though
>>53460506
Isn't the grammy's cutoff date like september though? Explains why Reflektor was nominated this year instead of last.
>>53460553
all i see when i check out the album that was nominated is her co-writing with a shitload of people.
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>>53459798
So how does that make him an asshole at all?
Beck needs to respect artistry
Holy hell he's hammered
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E95bOqOIkjM
>>53460409
When did he say it was about race?
>>53460553
i bet u really believe that
what actually happens is someone else writes the lyrics and she approves or disapproves of them
>>53460409
not even about race, it's just that morning phase was a boring, forgettable album
>>53460737
Not compared to Beyonce's.
>>53460409
Kanye stood up for Bey because they're close as hell, not because she's black. There's a reason why he's stood up for her twice, but not once for anybody else (except himself).
>>53460657
Gold bathrobe
>neverbefore witnessed beauty
How is he still drunk? I mean he must of drank and entire handle to still eb that wasted at the end of the grammys
Neither Beck nor Beyonce deserved the award. They're both shit devoid of any substance. Why wasn't real music like Swans or Sun Kil Moon considered?
>>53460782
lol shut ut up you fucking 16 year old
i thought kanye was banned from the grammys
>>53460782
youre a retard
>>53460750
I mean none of the albums nominated weren't boring and forgettable, but at least you can dance to beyonce. Not that that's a measure of quality, but here's my size-up
Morning Phase
-boring
-forgettable
Beyonce
-boring
-forgettable
-dance-able
>>53460807
he has 21 grammys, and he interrupted the VMAs, not the grammys (which led to the VMAs getting a lot more attention anyways so they love him)
guys wtf why is it always shit artists at the grammies. real artists like Sunn O))) and Karl Blau are more deserving than beck and beyonce.
Why the fuck didn't Dissection win the grammy god dam amerifats are dumb
steeley dan was robbed
I didn't give a fuck about anything up for album of the year this year but between all the people up for it, clearly she should have won. So yeah, he's right again.
>>53460796
>>53460810
8 the b8
>>53460323
I'm not sure if this is bait or not, but even if it is, this is easily the worst thing I have ever seen on this board.
>>53460870
8 the secondary b8
>>53460865
how about the albums up for it? did you hear the albums?
>Kanye West said something rude and stupid
>a forgettable album won AOTY from the grammy's
and life goes on
But whatever. It's by no means his best album, but I still think it's cool that Beck got an AOTY grammy.
And I still haven't listened to Sam Smith and I have no intention to ever listen to Sam Smith
it was a joke.....
Kanyes broken
America would actually be close to perfect without these Kardashian douches polluting it, fuck them all. All satanists and snakes.
>>53461039
on stage, yes, and it was funny
in the interview afterwards? no, that was just him being a jackass
>>53460441
There were so many better albums this year than all of those artists combined. What the fuck. Who chooses these things?
Holy fucking hell Billboard wrote this
Did Kanye hack the website?
>>53461039
>He was only pretending guise!
topkek kill yourself
>>53461267
billboard is a top 40 site so you really can't be surprised when they write their embarrassing pleb opinions
This hack can't go one night without attention-whoring like a bitch.
>>53461267
>race and gender bias
>beck's been around for over 2 decades and has gotten 6 grammies
>bey's been around for a little over a decade and has gotten 20 grammies
alright.
>>53461401
Base
The only good Beyonce song is Crazy in love
>>53461401
What a pandering fuccboi, he just wanted to look different for black twitter
>>53461401
6ynth God
@DrewsThatDude
this nigga Beck was putting out Platinum albums when Kanye was producing for Mase, show some respect
>>53460151
Where should I start with Ryan Adams' music? I've got a buddy who is really into him and I've enjoyed most of what I've heard so far.
>>53461493
Wake Up the Neighbors
>>53461267
>>53459798
Who cares Beck last album was fucking bland as fuck how the fuck did this thing even get nominated for a grammy. It got a 6 from pitchfork. A 6.
This isn't like it's fucking odelay. It's a random shitty beck album. He puts out one every 3 years people.
It's not like it was fucking special or unique amongst Beck albums. Fuck.
>>53461543
>It got a 6 from pitchfork. A 6.
i don't have a b8 image so here's this
>>53461505
That's Bryan Adams, anon
>>53460162
He could actually put his money where his mouth is and start some alternative award show with people who actually create music voting instead of record label heads.
But the problem is gonna be they're not going to pick what he wants to win. They're gonna pick some Pitchfork approved album.
at least this means Kanye probably has something coming out soon, his attention whoring is getting more common
>>53461562
yeah i know thats my go-to ryan adams joke
(because everyone hates bryan adams and it annoys my IRL ryan adams fan friends)
>>53461527
i don't understand why beck, of all people, was nominated for anything at all this year
i like beck but that album was mediocre, and beck is irrelevant
>>53461564
death grips lifetime achievement award first year
This isn't even an album. It's just a collection of random songs with her name on it. It doesn't even have a title or proper cover art. It wasn't even physically released so you could own a copy until after it hit the internet and became a forced classic on twitter.
>>53460811
morning phase has some more interesting song craft though. It does drone on at some points but it was a more interesting listen, Beyonce has always made great quality dance and vocal music, but in most other areas (originality, creativity, complexity) she falls off the mark.
>>53461543
People get "legacy awards" all the time, the difference is that the Grammy's present primary audience doesn't know who Beck is because all they listen to is Beyonce Kanye and Lana Del Rey
Besides it's the fucking Grammys who cares, I just like seeing all the retards on twitter freak the fuck out about this dumb stuff
>>53461527
>a white man is not allowed to beat a black woman in an awards competition
>>53461611
Pom Pom was freakin better
>>53461586
Cheeki
>>53461610
Also funny that people always praise how it was released out of nowhere as if that is some kind of revolutionary idea
people are unironically saying Kanye was doing satire
guys I'm so fucking mad right now
>>53461493
>I've got a buddy
>>53461603
a mediocre album from an irrelevant artist is still more deserving of a grammy than a shit album from an artist who is relevant
>>53460045
Gr8 b8 m8
>>53460067
neither do talentless pop singers
>Beck is only going to be remembered by the pleb kiddies as "white old dude who stole beyonce's grammy"
Someone fill me in. I saw the vine of Kanye going up on stage, then being like, Nahhh and backing off. Something else happen? Cause I took it as he was trying to be funny.
>>53460505
He has some hidden gems sprinkled in.
>>53461622
white men should be allowed to beat black women anywhere they fucking please
>>53461672
W-what's wrong with using different descriptors for friends? I also enjoy the word "problematic" to show concern without outright disapproval but now it gets greentext joked on because tumblr-shit.
;_; Why is the internet trying to control my vernacular?
>>53461690
He was interviewed after saying Beck should have given it to Beyonce because she has more "artistry."
>>53461636
nice meme!
>>53461527
Beck isn't a fucking top 10 artists and he doesn't produce pop music.
The comparison is moot.
Out of all those albums Beyonce should of probably won. It's a actual album that's memorable amongst her body of work. Not what can be said of Becks contribution.
The grammy award for Album of the Year is not about who can play most instruments or who is the hypest but who created the best album flat out. The best music god damn it. I don't care if it's a fucking 90 minute long album with 13 different artists on it if it's goo enough it should win.
But the academy is fucking weird. Weird albums always win AOTY. It's like they see it as some kind of consolation prize. They never take that shit seriously.
Last year it was Daft Punk. Year before Mumford and Sons. Then Adele, Arcade Fire, then Robert Plant and Alison Krauss.
You will rarely see artists who started out as top 10 figures. And if they are they'll be someone who doesn't do Pop.
>>53461708
i love you
>>53461722
what a shitty argument.
>The grammy award for Album of the Year is not about who can play most instruments or who is the hypest but who created the best album flat out. The best music god damn it.
Correct, which is why Beck won out of the nominees. He had the best music of the nominees.
>>53461714
Ohh okay.
I love Kanye but I feel like at this point hes just trolling everyone.
>>53461616
Wait Lana Del Rey is popular now?
What next you're gonna tell me The Weeknd has a #1 hit and James Blake is Kanye Wests favorite artist?
>>53461527
Once again, /pol/ completely forgets to account for important variables, such as the fact that the Grammys are mainly based on fucking popularity/album sales most of the time.
/pol/tards are literally as bad as the "feminists" that blame everything on the patriarchy.
>>53461722
>Out of all those albums Beyonce should of probably won. It's a actual album that's memorable amongst her body of work. Not what can be said of Becks contribution.
subjective
>The grammy award for Album of the Year is not about who can play most instruments or who is the hypest but who created the best album flat out. The best music god damn it. I don't care if it's a fucking 90 minute long album with 13 different artists on it if it's goo enough it should win.
>implying it's objective fact that bey made the best album flat out
the point of that image is that if there was race and gender bias then bey wouldn't be as decorated as she is.
>>53461564
Beyonce's album was pitchfork approved
8.8
>>53461722
I agree that Beck's album wasn't his best and even though I love him, I really wasn't expecting it to win at all (heck it wasn't the best 2014 album or even a best Beck album). I will admit it's a nice album, and he definitely put a lot of effort into it.
The problem right now is that a lot of people (Kanye included) are downlplaying his album simply because he beat Beyonce, and now it's like "oh a white cracker beat black independent strong womyn the industry is corrupt".
>>53461760
>caring what a high school music review section tier publication says about music
>>53461722
Although RAM was defiantly not like their old stuff I thoroughly enjoyed it. Enough to get the LP
>>53461610
>MUH MINIMALISM
i can tell this album's garbage just by that joke of a cover
>>53461722
as far as pop music goes, i think Daft Punk was spot on
the only time the grammys actually got it right
>>53461527
Does that award list only count her solo work? To be fair, she has been around longer than that.
>>53461756
She's condecorated as a top 10 pop artist. For me that's not weird.
What's weird is she's been around since Destiny's Child has how many albums, how many hits, and someone like Adele got top album before her.
These are all popularity awards. Going by popularity well. Beyonce is pretty fucking popular.
Reminds me of when The Fame lost to fucking Allison Kross and Robert Plant. These are bullshit decisions.
This is a popularity contest. Give the god damn popular music the award and go make some other dumb prize where you can pretend to care about the quality of the music.
>>53461821
what are you even arguing right now? my problem is that people are claiming that beck keeping bey from 21 grammys is a sign of race/gender bias in the music industry.
Dear god. I know this ideology is beat into the ground, and it's needless to say, but the grammys are a fucking joke.
One hit wonder "artists" are taking all the rewards, the big pop names get the rest of them because it's a safe bet to do. Shitty forgetable performances. It seems the grammys are now only to promote big name Pop stars, not to promote the future of music, or she'd light on new creativity or anything that braces a trace of experimenting.
Literally the only fucking good thing was kanye stepping up. Yeah his reason was shit (Beyonce doesn't deserve it) but someone has to be the one to challenge this.
It's all about views and what's trending. if I wanted to see watered down pop and instagram artists I'd go to youtubes music section, but not this. Not the fucking grammys.
>>53461754
Yeah that's the point...I really don't understand how you can be this dumb and type words on a computer. It is the fact that they are based on popularity that makes it bullshit. On top of that the fact that they claim gender and race bias is just icing on the bullshit cake.
>>53461754
So...it's bad that the Grammy's awarded an award for musical quality this time because they're usually based on sales and the top seller didn't win?
I'd say that's a positive change
>>53461780
it was his attempt at Sea Change 2: Sea Harder, which was the last time Beck was a serious award contender. Odelay 2: The Dark of the Guero was too goofy/eclectic to have that kind of appeal.
Beck's got like 3 modes he shifts between; dadaist anti-folk, sample-laden weirdo-electronica, and brooding modern folk. Only the last one has grammy potential. It'll be another 10 years before Beck cycles back around to that style again, so I feel like this was a Grammy consolation prize for him as an artist, since he won't have another shot for a long while.
>>53461861
The Grammys have never meant anything ever
>>53461454
this
highjacking post from another thread but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48j4YhKFjw4
>"I'll jump in front of a moving car for history" - Kanye West, 2010
I mean, at this point, why is anyone surprised? Set Beck aside and the fact that E! put a microphone into post-grammy drunk kanye's face, watch the above clip and tell me he isn't justified in expressing these views.
It's unfortunate that the other side of this Beck thrust into the spotlight, sure he's blameless in all of this and has been a respected musician for a bit, but it doesn't make Kanye's point about cultural smudging any less true.
>>53461821
I was just listening to that Allison Krauss/Robert Plant collab a few days ago. Still holds up. Idk who that other guy is. Some flash in the pan, sound of the moment i guess. Great music and excellant songwriting will always be remembered and that's what matters. If Bey truly deserved a win then she will win in the long run because more people will remember the songs. i know I'll never forget the first time I heard "Heaven." i also know I'll never forget it because it's an amazing song. Also know 'Morning Phase' is loaded with fine songs as well. you're allowed to like both, you know? Maybe you should actually listen to that Beck album. It's not half bad. Here's a DL link. No hard feeling breh.
https://mega.co.nz/#!MMIHwRoL!hHLUdgW0EwC7BYNlJIkfdL8pQWtu21yll78cwwEJA5I
>>53462013
go back to your kanye forum
>>53461908
I think it's great that the Grammys decided to award an artist based on the quality of their output for once. I just think it's bullshit for /pol/ would try and drag race and gender into this.
>>53461974
I know, that's why it's a fucking shame. How can a beautiful respectful art form such as music, been seen as anything with worth, when there are record labels and big shots pissing all over it.
It's fucking disgraceful.
It's basically turning the music industry into a clothing store.
It's made the art form of music disposable. it means nothing. It's just a top hit everyone likes to hear, then bam, on to the next one.
maybe music was always this way, but I wish there was someone out there representing those who truly have passion for music, and not passion for wanting to be a famous faggot who has a chart topper.
>>53462013
death grips though
>>53462023
>Idk who that other guy is. Some flash in the pan, sound of the moment i guess.
The Fame was Lady Gaga's first album, and the start of all this poptimist fun.
>>53460288
he sounds so incredibly uneducated here. what an untalented fuckwad he is being right now
>>53462013
true,
but in the same light it doesn't validate Kanye just being kind of an asshole.
>>53461811
>implying Kendrick Lamar's good kid, m.A.A.d city wasn't robbed
Last year's grammys were so horribly judged. Somebody investigate about Kendrick's 7 missing grammys
