can an average unicorn win in a fight with a gun?
Yes. They even made an infograph for this
>>27134165
Wanna show us?
>>27134165
can you post links?
If its this gun then yes.
It depend on which unicorn, which gun, who's using it, and the terrain/situation.
>>27134214
average unicorn
average gun, police gun
just some dude
poniville
>>27134240
The unicorn would cringe in terror and the average guy doesn't know how the fuck to use a gun and he would waste all the ammo, missing terribly.
It's a draw.
>>27134313
thats pretty racist, poniville unicorns arent the average unicorn
plus if the human managed to scare the unicorn that means he won right?
>>27134313
>>27134240
He's got a point, can we have a trained gun dude? Or at least someone who goes on the range?
Is this a pistol or rifle we're talking about?
>>27134372
yeah, but it has to be an even fight so trained gun dude versus unicorn guard with shitty training that has never seen a battle. The kind that would eat some cake someone left on the floor an die
>>27134396
........the average royal guard?
>>27134418
pretty much, celestia did a really shitty job with them. I bet a banana guard could beat them
>>27134396
So the unicorn brings up a barrier to block the bullets, but quickly finds out that blocking supersonic balls of metal is hard. He blocks 2 shots if he's lucky, then falls over because of magical exertion. He is then shot in the face.
Gunman wins.
>>27134136
>unicorn vs gun
i suppose they could. that gun aint gonna do anything.
>>27134451
im dissapointed but this is what would happen. How about 2 guars and one gunman? i mean the one guard cant even attack back, two unicorns would be more fair
>>27134478
you know what scratch that, unicorns have ranged attack.
Two guards. One unicorn and one earth pony, now thats a challenge
>>27134478
The guards immediately separate to make the gunman have to choose between who to shoot, which to a trained user of guns but has little to no combat experience, gives both of them enough time to find cover. The unicorn fires off a magical flashbang that blinds and deafens the gunman. The earth pony is able to run up to the gunman and buck him in the chest, which is followed by the unicorn ripping the gun out of the man's hands. The guards then beat the gunman to death.
Guard win.
>>27134463
Why wouldn't the gun do anything?
>>27134136
Most likely block it if they know its coming, otherwise no
>>27134582
you need someone to pull the trigger
>>27134573
>implying anyone in equestria has combat experience
the main 6 are probably the best warriors in all of equestria
>>27134165
>>27134181
>>27134182
>>27135272
>>27134594
this, it's extremely rare to see magic that doesn't require active concentration for the task.
if a unicorn has a crazy fast defensive reflex upon hearing a gunshot, the round would have to be supersonic to work. this rules out most handguns.
but most likely the average unaware unicorn would be toast.
>>27135262
Probably. I was just giving them the advantage so that they actually have a chance.
Unless Lyra is secretly a fuckin Ninja-Jedi. Wouldn't surprise me.
>>27135272
anyone who thinks a pony would be calm enough to pull this shit off is an autist.. as we have seen from the show on many many occasions ponies in Equestria get scared off by anything and everything they see as a threat... even ONE nigger visiting their town
>>27135272
I wonder how shape charges would react to shields. And couldn't you overpower any target using more inertia than the shield can stop?
>>27135351
Yes. You can.
That's why >>27135272 is retarded.
There is no way in hell an average unicorn could stop multiple pointy bits of metal flying at fuck-all speeds towards their face, unless they happen to be Shining Armor or some shit.
>>27135272
>>27135272
>fire once
>bullet floats in front of pony
>fire twice in a row
>same thing happens
>fire two more bullets to no avail
>freeze
>see bullets move a bit
>fire again
>kill pony
>gun has 6 bullets
>>27135303
she wore a cloak too
>>27135272
Even when anticipated, a high velocity metal object will at least put some strain on a pony.
Now if we have more bullets or even an mg, the pony would probably not stand a chance.
>>27135474
and they thought a weapon made by a "Colt" wasn't going to be effective
>>27135272
>an average unicorn has the power to stop 30 individual projectiles moving at high speed
Sure thing famalamadingdong.
>>27135474
>>27135569
let's fix that, then
>>27135474
Assuming that most unicorns can only cast one spell at a time, (in this case the shield or telekinesis) this strategy would beat them with just a six shot revolver.
Why any of you autists would think differently is beyond me.
>>27134136
not if they don't see you.
>>27135664
>"Damn chaos god stole my box..."
>>27135644
>>27135644
yeah, i mean they would figure out eventually that there are 6 bullets but then it would be you and the pony waiting until either magic runs out of either of you get reinforcements
>>27135719
even if we were stuck with revolvers, there are ways around the 6 shot issue
>>27135299
>the round would have to be supersonic to work. this rules out most handguns.
What is 9x19mm Parabellum?
>>27135272
Oh look it's an underbarrel fired grenade with a computerized fuse that allows it to hit targets behind cover by instantly programming the fuse timing upon firing.
I hope you enjoy shrapnel, bourgeois unicorn. Consider it a gift from your friends, what did you call them? "Mud ponies"? THE REVOLT BEGINS NOW.
>>27135880
>revolucion
>I'm sorry, I'm afraid I don't understand your mud pony language
>REVOLUTION
>Oh, I was afraid that's what you said
>>27135413
I wanna see pony vs. M4 sherman tank or any fucking tank in that matter
>tank aims
>pony puts up a dumbass shield
>tank fires
>bits of pone starts to rain from the sky
>>27136169
Well it kinda defeats the purpose of asking if you do it yourself.
Though I am still open to other X vs Y scenarios.
>>27134136
You remember how, toward the end of The Matrix, Neo could stop bullets in midair, leave them hanging for a few seconds, and then cause them all to drop to the ground? That's basically what a unicorn would do if someone tried to shoot them with a gun.
>>27135272
if people really want to disparge this as not show accurate then theyre probably right but retards. rainbowdash can use her body in place of literal conventional ordinance by super sonic crashing into the ground and taking 0 fucking damage from it. shes basically bullet proof. Every earth pony seems to be a hyper muton in strength if we extrapolate from the fact that they tow trains around with rope and can kick every apple out of a tree with practiced ease. combine this shit with the only industrial process the ponies seem to have (mass produced any kind of weather they fucking want) and their absolutely godly knowledge of ecology (they run the planet for itself) and its pretty damn obvious that we wouldn't stand a fucking chance with our current logistic based technology in an offensive war against them.
>>27135876
one of many handgun rounds
>>27137205
True, true, however. There is one thing we can all agree on that humans could fuck up ponies with.
Psychological warfare.
For all their power, ponies have little will to actually fight, whereas humans are bloodlust fueled. We fucking invented messing with your head, and would gladly do so to defeat the ponies.
We could lie, cheat, and poison our way to victory. Wear their comrades as clothing, pull at their heartstrings and make them feel like monsters when they have a victory, scream and keep them up at night, eat their brothers in arms instead of field rations while making the POWs watch. We could rend friendships and turn them against each other, the carnage would be fantastic.
>>27136338
>this is what unifags honestly believe
when only the strongest mary sue in the land can do more than lift up some flowers with their magic, then no. that is not what would happen
>>27135413
Do you even Newton? The energy of the bullet is the same as the energy of the recoil. "Little pony" is relative to full size ponies, and a royal guard still probably weighs as much as a human female. If you can fire it with any accuracy they can probably stop it without much trouble.
>>27137205
Are we talking about a war of conquest or a war of extermination? Humans might not be able to win a war of conquest but we certainly could ensure no one was left standing afterwards.
>>27135497
i havent laughed like that in a while. good work anon
>>27137334
Ok so humans change tactics to more heavily utilize LMG/HMG and other higher strength weaponry. Most infantry already don't really leave the covering fire of their ride be it an APC or a heli so it would just mean we were more reliant on the transports weaponry and explosives carried by troops.
This is a japanese automatic grenade launcher. It has a fire rate of ~300 grenades per minute and has a 50 round magazine. It will wreck anyones shit that isn't hiding under a significant amount of steel.
Couldn't they just break the gun with telekinesis?
Or better yet just grip part of the attackers brain with magic and pull it. If a unicorn can reach across space and apply force to an object then there's no reason one couldn't reach inside your head and fuck your brain up.
THIS IS NOW A /MLK/ THREAD, POST YOUR HORSE-GUNS
Freedom-hating commies/britbongs not welcome.
>>27137446
Grab waifu + raifu ---> Innawoods
>>27137275
Maybe so, but they have a 'goddess' of dreams on their side mang. I don't think it's going to be all that effective as it would be on ourselves. and I doubt we could turn their friendships against them, we're fucking outsiders, that's like expecting a japanese person from 1943 who lives in japan to be able to cause a civil war between the mason dixon line. It's just not happening.
Wearing their friends as clothing though? that is one trick that I thought would be usefull. I incorporated it into my fan mlp human race, who are obscure winter inuit folk that eat anything they can get their hands on while hiding in environments ponies really have no business trying to take over.
Problem is, we'd have to be getting our asses raped or really dehumanizing them for that shit to fly. yeah theres gitmo, but skinning someone and turning their coat into actual wearable clothing is not something you just do to be cruel. it takes a lot of fucking work, and theres no way that our militaries will get away with it organized as they are. we'd have to have the whole overlying power structure in our military break down and by that point we don't really have many advantages anymore.
>>27137341
Ponies have the ability to do the same. just send in the windigos. ponies have had their own cold war looming over their heads since they founded their country.
>>27137439
Because humans have an innate force sensitivity,basic training stops ponies from affecting internal body structures with their weak magic.
Not to mention how worthless they are in close combat, once we get the inquisitors to close in they just fall apart.
>>27137446
ponies are increadibly socialist. they just aren't communists like starlight wanted. they even have their own princess of the nanny state, who goes on missions specifically using government funds and muscle to address the concerns of the dissatisfied instead of relying on the invisible hand of kekipalism.
>>27135272
didn't twilight or spike say most unicorns can only learn like six spells. More often than not these are not combative or shield based.
So like you'd in encounter the rare unicorn that could put shields but it would require like a magic and shit...which is limited. If someone got a fully automatic, they'd be screwed.
Also Magic is like affected by weight and therefore force, which is affected by speed. so.... if you fire a shit ton of lead at a high speed it'll wear down the ponies shield.....in short....I really don't think a they'd be able to last against a gun.
Twilight, Celestia, Luna, maybe Candace could withstand it but remember most magical creatures arn't that powerful or know shielding magic for that matter. Those are like special cases.
>>27137205
it depends on a lot of things
are humans willing to restrict their combat methods to what they fought each other with in recent years? or does chemical warfare, cluster munitions, and napalm come back when they're backed into a corner?
to be fair, we also don't know what limitations that ponies put on themselves in terms of onscreen combat.
as far has physical capabilities, humans have some interesting ones. unrivaled manipulation of objects, high endurance for a biped, extremely efficient brain matter. Humans have endured g-forces far more than Dash does
Colonel John Stapp: 46.2 G (self subjected for testing)
David Purley: 178 G (F1 accident)
Kenny Bräck 214 G (Indycar accident)
Trains have low rolling friction by design, a similar group of trained (heh) men could produce similar results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7yE07rJ_54
Humans have been modifying weather for years, it was banned for military use in 1977
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification
As for ecology, humans have been manipulating mass at the subatomic level for years, as well as genetic engineering, crossbreeding, and splicing. We have a far greater understanding of our world than they do of theirs.
Pictured is Nazi Space Magic
>>27137499
>>didn't twilight or spike say most unicorns can only learn like six spells. More often than not these are not combative or shield based.
that seems pretty damn unlikely senpai. unless unicorn spells are fucking so bullshit theyre multipurposed. like maybe instead of shield shining armor's spell is "force" and he can shoot slice, chain, etc just as well as block.
>>27134136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpvAR5KqkBQ
>equestria discovers fire arms
>Earth pony's cant hold them let alone fire and reload one.
>makes unicorns even more OP
I think i have a new idea for my net writefaging.
>>27137446
>>27137205
Didn't she break her wing just messing up some random trick?
>>27137509
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmzok7_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-episode-6-boast-busters_shortfilms
You're right they can only learn things that match their special talent. He says it like 10 seconds into the episode. Twiggy confirms.
This is a Honda Civic made in 1978. It can reach speeds in excess of 120 km/h and weighs ~700 kg. This gives it ~23 MNs. This is enough Newton seconds to make you wish it wasn't going right at you.
This is China. It has been estimated that it can wield and supply a conscript army of ~100 million infantry. This is enough soldiers.
>>27137507
>>are humans willing to restrict their combat methods to what they fought each other with in recent years? or does chemical warfare, cluster munitions, and napalm come back when they're backed into a corner?
This is an offensive war of the humans. The ponies could not effectively take human cities nor govern them. The most they could do is lock them up in storms if they could figure out how to transport them over, and do strikes on key locations. so humans would never be backed into a corner.
>>Humans have endured g-forces far more than Dash does
Dash crashes into the ground naked at super sonic speeds then goes on a picnic unscratched. it might even be several times more super sonic than usual, I really have no idea how to calculate how much force dash put on her body, but she basically used it to create an pint sized impact crater. one sliver of the impact radius could easily bury both of her friends from a far distance.
>>Trains have low rolling friction by design, a similar group of trained (heh) men could produce similar results
I find that hard to believe, if only because what you're looking at is a group of humans actually moving the entire train itself. is that thing just the locomotive? or does it have actual cars attached to it? I mean, its like comparing a bunch of humans pushing a car slowly, to people who can drag it over decent land speeds.
>>jhumans have been modifying weather for years
this is the equivelent of saying ponies have been using weapons for years, human guns aren't anything significant. Ponies can basically churn out hurricanes, tornadoes, and lightning storms at a factory pace. they can flood an advanced military outpost easily. Human beings are like bronze aged swordsmen in this technology.
>>27137577
forgot picture
>>27137579
>Dash crashes into the ground at super sonic speeds and walks away unscathed
She also fucks up a much less impressive trick and gets trapped under a rock pretty much breaking her wings.
>>27137507
As for ecology, humans have been manipulating mass at the subatomic level for years, as well as genetic engineering, crossbreeding, and splicing. We have a far greater understanding of our world than they do of theirs.
man you just don't let up with this crap do you? are you seriously about to plug your ears and scream humans fuck yeah?
Ponies control their entire environment, including the animals that live there. they determine their winter cycle, fall cycle, spring, and summer cycles. We cause giant mud volcanos and sinkholes to appear because of our industry and we can't do anything to stop it. Our farms and environments are overrun with creatures that don't belong there and are pushing out other wildlife. Ponies don't have these problems. not becuase they don't exist, but becuase they have enough information and expertise to game their entire environment. There's no doubt that they have something similar to crossbreeding and matter manipulation. They have a medical and dye industry big enough that its affordable for almost anyone. they have the technology and economy to impose a weather system thats carefully calculated and scheduled over their entire country. Our knowledge of practical ecology is fucking nothing compared to ponies.
>>27137545
>>boast busters
one more fuck up from boast busters. I'm tempted to ignore it, even though I dont tend to do that kind of thing, but not because it mostly contradicts me so much as it contradicts twilight, who they portray as not that smart or skilled in broad overall magic but instead a very select minority of skills that are absolute bullshit compared to the stuff we see her doing. we'll say this is a draw.
>>27137602
probably the squeezing. a lot of bullshit creatures can't handle squeezing. picture related, for all their ability, theyre still voulenrable to a good pop.
>>27137577
you realize that if china sent that many soldiers to come fuck america up we could just bomb and shoot them out of the sky yes? do you even into supply chains?
>>27137630
K....I mean.....from a writer's perspective....it makes sense....
>>27137612
Humans have also permanently colonized every single continent on Earth, have a (semi)permanent population LEO, are capable of creating new life even if still limited to the size of viruses, are capable of modifying existing life, are able to travel around the world in less than 24 hours... The list goes on. The only thing ponies have over humans is their seemingly pre-industrial level population size and having a few incredibly powerful individuals.
>>27137668
>>it makes sense from a writers perspective.
the problem is this doesn't fix shit when you have so many different god damn writers
>>27137630
>I'm going to ignore dialogue from the show because it doesn't agree with my point
>Call it a draw?
No, you're wrong, dipshit.
Quit sperging out and slink off into the background like everybody does when they've been proven wrong beyond a belief of doubt.
>>27135272
>rarity can't catch all the pillows thrown at her
>the average unicorn can catch bullets with ease
this image is retardness incarnate
>>27137676
>>durr i dont have to counter anything you just said
>colonized their whole planet
equestria has more sentient and sapient species than we do.
>semi permanent population LEO
literally doesn't matter, satellites are more important than this shit. fucking hfy morons, always masturbating over their own presence even to the disrespect of our own miraculous achievements.
>>create new life and transform creatures limited to viruses
Ponies can transform into different species fairly easily (it's not common knowledge but it does not require much preperation nor does it require the thing in question not be born yet) and can even modify themselves to be better and stronger than they where (alicorn).
> are able to travel around the world in less than 24 hours.
We already went over how human supply trains are better than ponies from the very begginning, even if it wont help them worth shit against equestrian defensive warfare.
>>the list goes on
>>but not yours, none of your facts count cause i say so!
you are absolutely fucking retarded and need to die before you kill our species with your own admitedly natural but inane arrogance.
I always imagined unicorns shields to be like those in Halo, were you shoot the Elite and the blue shitty sponge absorbes certain amount of bullets.
But once you get a 50cal or a bazuka shit is useless.
>>27137689
>>durr you're wrong
how the fuck am I wrong? did you even fucking read what was written? do you even understand the context? what exactly am I wrong about moron? explain it clearly so we can see if you have been fucking paying attention or just want to stick your dick in a beehive to pretend you are retarded on the internet.
>>27137733
>I choose to keep being a sperg, it's my only purpose in life
Are you illiterate? Dialogue from the show proves you wrong. Dumb-fuck. Now just sink away.
>>27137702
Im pretty sure you aren't allowed to use a force shield in a game of dodge ball either man.
>>27137721
>equestrian defensive warfare
you mean the one that fell immediately when some bugs entered the main city
>>27137439
Most likely no.
In the show we seen an average unicorn struggle to open a jar with telekinesis.
As for other stuff, I assume a higher level of magic is required to manipulate complex parts or magic resistance may exist.
>>27137764
yes rarity has used sooo many force shields in the show, also they were very clearly fighting, so fair play is not a detriment
the question was about the average unicorn, not twilight
>>27137759
>>dialogue from the show has proven me wrong.
about what? prove that you have been paying attention in class or fuck off back to doodling you sperg. you made an assertion, the burden of proof is on you, but so far you haven't even made a complete assertion, just a base retarded flailing while refusing to specify anything in the hopes it makes you look less stupid.
>>27137579
I wasn't aware that it was strictly offensive, forgive me. Though, humans have done nastier things in the past just for showing power.
given Dash's estimated mass from many infographs of pony size over the years, the acceleration to 0, and the distance travelled, the examples given had more energy expended during deceleration. the F1 crash decelerated to 0 in 66mm. now as for dash being unscathed, that seems to be inconsistent depending on the writer. due to writing, we might have to call it a draw.
the video was of 1 man pulling a functioning locomotive. now imagine that the locomotive doesn't need to be functional and has 12 or so men pulling it. if the locomotive is a rolling shell, and the train cars are scaled down to pony gauge, it is more than plausible.
humans have caused earthquakes, experimented in creating typhoons to attack enemies, currently researching dispersing lighting with lasers. we have killed using weather so extreme it's generally reserved for solar storms in space.
>>27137612
your arguments use assumptions to prove your point, while ignoring unknowns that could be negative to that same point. normally that is fine if you preface it properly, but you state these assumptions as fact.
>>27137778
Quit sperging out, anon.
>>27137766
by a fucking shape shifter hoped up on enough love to hard counter their royalty, and even more hilariously, you assume that the changlings who require equestria to prosper in order to feed off them, wouldn't fucking temporarily ally themselves with them to knock out the humans war of aggression.
>>27137778
what?
not same anon but he did told you the ep where twilight said it, do you need it in a citation format you sperg?
>>27137777
>>they used pillows,
>>it was a real fight.
go kill youserlf.
>>27137798
well okay then my other point still stands, when has rarity used a magic shield?
your retarded fanfics don't count
>>27134136
>>27137773
Yes but the fact a unicorn can open a jar shows that they can put complex force on parts of an object, and the brain is pretty fragile. Most unicorns would be to retarded to think about this, if they did the changeling invasion would have been pretty short.
>>27137778
>Hurrdurr, you have to prove me wrong and I expect at least 3 paragraphs
>What's that? You posted a CLIP OF THE SHOW that goes against what I said?
>Well, I'm going to ignore that
>Now where's my essay so I can ignore that as well while being as insulting as I can
Okay there, bud. If you want to ignore facts then go ahead. Just be aware of how much of a faggot you are.
>>27137780
>>your arguments use assumptions to prove your point, while ignoring unknowns that could be negative to that same point. normally that is fine if you preface it properly, but you state these assumptions as fact.
they are facts you retard
which is ironic becuase here you are saying humans can create and direct typhoons to kill people on the level of gamma radiation from solar winds and I dont see a single fucking hint of anything to substantiate it.
>>27137789
quit shitposting
>>27137795
I didn't ask him what his proof was, I asked him what the hell he was talking about instead of going like a kid saying "nuh uh, I win" when no one knows what the hell he was even refering to. you fucking retards! its not that hard to comprehend. theres a fucking laundry list of topics being discussed and I demand a fucking answer on what the hell he is refering to or that he shut his fucking trap.
>>27137823
this is maximum sperg
>>27137721
ugh fine I'll break down your post point by point.
>Ponies control their entire environment
Except certain areas. Everfree is an obvious one but Appleoosa is also a good example. Instead of terraforming unused ground they used the river as a source of water
>including the animals that live there.
Kind of pointless. I'd much prefer the animals take care of themselves so that we don't have to expend resources looking after them
>They determine their winter cycle, fall cycle, spring, and summer cycles.
Kind of a good point. Until you realize the season changes seem to mostly be ceremonial.
>We cause giant mud volcanos and sinkholes to appear because of our industry and we can't do anything to stop it.
We can do things to stop these things and infact do prevent them in non-third world countries.
>Our farms and environments are overrun with creatures that don't belong there and are pushing out other wildlife.
Most invasive species are there because we want them to be there(Cows, Pigs, Chicken). The ones that aren't simply aren't doing enough short term damage to justify expending resources to fix
>Ponies don't have these problems.
Speculation
>Not becuase they don't exist, but becuase they have enough information and expertise to game their entire environment.
Speculation
>There's no doubt that they have something similar to crossbreeding and matter manipulation.
Speculation
>They have a medical and dye industry big enough that its affordable for almost anyone.
so they're on the same level as 1920's humanity?
>they have the technology and economy to impose a weather system thats carefully calculated and scheduled over their entire country.
They have the technology but their economy seems limited since they do not seem to have complete control.
>Our knowledge of practical ecology is fucking nothing compared to ponies.
Speculation
>>27137808
>>when has rarity used a shield
>>rarity is all unicorns
>>absence of evidence is evidence of absence.
>>27137813
>>i'm going to be a complete retard pretending to be retarded on the internet and again completely fucking ignore this guy like the shit posting dickfucker i am and suck a million cocks while i circle jerk about how right I am and wrong you are about something I'll never deem necissary to specify.
the world would objectively be a better place to live without you in it.
>>27137837
>the magic prodigy is all unicorns
>>27137823
>I demand a fucking answer
And you got one, many times over. But you keep ignoring it and saying
>I demand a fucking answer
Just stop already.
>>27137823
did I say the typhoon experiments ever hit full scale? did I say that the typhoon was the thing associated with solar radiation?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
I did confuse typhoon with monsoon, though. sorry.
>>27137837
>this much mad
I'd just like to say, this kind of argument is fun for me. I hope some of you anons think the same (I won't say what side/s I'm arguing for :^))
>>27137812
A jar and a lid are clearly two separate inaminate objects while a brain is biological and is pretty much connected with the entire body, but this is purely speculation so who knows.
>>27137833
>>Except certain areas.
that are not "theirs"
>>Kind of pointless. I'd much prefer the animals take care of themselves so that we don't have to expend resources looking after them
so would the people whos livelyhoods are being destroyed by invasive species you retard
>>Kind of a good point. Until you realize the season changes seem to mostly be ceremonial.
>>ceremonial
yeah no.
they
control
the
weather
get it through your fucking head.
>>We can do things to stop these things and infact do prevent them in non-third world countries.
no, we fucking can't you retard. Even first world economies don't have the money to start filling every bit of erosion and sinkholes. flooding and erosion is a consistant problem every fucking year.
>The ones that aren't simply aren't doing enough short term damage to justify expending resources to fix
wrong as fuck you retard. what you meant to say is that there isn't enough short term profit to justfy the expense of protecting our resource.
>>Speculation
fact
>>Speculation
FACT
>>Speculation
FACT!!!
>>so they're on the same level as 1920's humanity?
the world is not a fucking linear tech tree you mongoloid. Ponies are obviously enormously ahead in some ways and way behind in others, theres no technology in this world today that just consists of materials and means for doing things. the attitude, economy, and situation matters far far more.
>>They have the technology but their economy seems limited since they do not seem to have complete control.
they have complete control to such a degree that what you are saying is like we can't farm because occasionally theres droubts.
>>speculation
fact.
>>27137837
>i'm going to be a complete retard pretending to be retarded on the internet and again completely fucking ignore this guy like the shit posting dickfucker i am and suck a million cocks while i circle jerk about how right I am and wrong you are about something I'll never deem necissary to specify.
Anally annihilated
>>27137879
>yeah no.
>they
>control
>the
>weather
>get it through your fucking head.
weather =/= season
you all seem to have forgotten the s5 finale where the entirety of equestria is struggling to fight a large city's worth of brainwashed ponies led by a dude who can only say one word
>>27137843
>>durr i'll shit out irrelevant non sequiters, that will show em.
>>27137852
no, I never did, you fucking shit posting lying sack of human waste
>>27137853
>>did I say the typhoon experiemtns ever hit full scale?
>>did I say it was the thing associated with solar radiation
Did you just shit post a bunch of shit that has no bearing on anything because as I already fucking mentioned, you are comparing bronze spears to machine guns and calling them both equal?
yes
Are you continuing to shit post despite the obvious fact that you can't dig yourself out of this hole no matter how much you try?
yes
>>27137861
you bet I'm fucking mad our species is an arrogant shit stain that will never, fucking ever be able to look at something someone else does better than us and not masturbate furiously over how secretly better than them we are. its the same kind of autism that drives black and red alicorn ocs poping up everywhere. Have some salt.
>>27137879
>>Speculation
>fact
>>Speculation
>FACT
>>Speculation
>FACT!!!
not the anon you're arguing with, but if you explain why you believe it's fact without writing in progressively more capital letters and overpunctuation, you might convince them
>>27137895
>>weather
>>season
what is the sun and moon you fucking mongoloid?
>>27137837
>>27137861
>>27137871
Nice damage control, fag.
>Everyone is calling me a sperg
>How can I salvage this?
>I know, I was being retarded on purpose, for fun, yeah, that's a good and original idea
Why do you care what people on the internet think of you?
>>27137901
>>you might convince someone who dismisses your facts with a baseless comment by repeating those same facts in full every time they say it.
no moron, thats called being a sucker, instead, they can provide evidence for how something thats in evidence everwhere in the fucking show is somehow not a fact, instead of trying the big lie game by repeating a word over and over to sell a big lie hitler style.
>>27137875
I think they could, i mean matter is matter. Its probably one of those forbidden practices like blood bending in avatar. But pony are such passive peace loving things they wouldn't do this unless there life was in danger.
>>27137912
>>nice damage control fag
>>27137837 (You)
>>27137861
>>27137871
yes clearly everyone who you don't like is me, you are obviously the majority. oh I'm sorry for being the only person in the world who is wrong and everyone is always on your side.
or maybe you could abandon this retarded conciet and pay attention.
>>Why do you care what people on the internet think of you?
I think fucking nothing of how you arogant shit stains think of me.
>>27137900
>has no bearing on anything because as I already fucking mentioned
I was responding to how you said I couldn't substantiate what I was claiming. I left out a link or two and I'm very sorry.
I'm not sure, but you might be replying to about 5 anons and not just me (you might have 1 or 2 anons arguing for you as well) if I sound repetitive at any point it might be because it's not me.
>>27137912
I'm >>27137871
not lol umad butthurtdetected guy
>>27137926
no I'm absolutely certain I'm refering to "you"
and by you i mean the arguement train in specific where I claimed and substantiated that pony weather and ecology is far superior to our attempts, on a level to be as uncomparable as spears and machine guns, when "you" claimed that not only do humans have better weather control, the ponies have fucking nothing and humans are superior in every way except for the demi gods, you insane insuferable arrogant prick.
>>27137925
Funny thing is, I'm not even the original guy you were arguing with. I just saw how mad you were and decided to cum on your plushie.
>>27137895
Do you watch the show? Like, at all?
>>27137959
>>i'm not the original guy
and that is irrelevant, you joined a conversation with baggage attached to it, so its your responsability to know the context of your own statements.
not that anything I said is related in any way to previous posts. every criticism I gave of it was inadvertantly pretty self contained, because the conceit of "everyone I disagree with is obviously samefag" is an ever present stench of diarrhea all over 4chan and has basically nothing intrinsically to do with this argument.
>>27137942
I didn't claim that they were superior, only that humans could match it if they put their minds to it. are many of those things matching magic weather town in the sky? no. but hasn't humanity shown accelerated progress during wartime? does that mean that they will stamp out the cute horsies like it's nothing? no. I am showcasing potential. I think there is another anon poking you with a stick for fun, and yet another who is doing the superiority argument you refer to.
>>27137959
you care a terrible person for even joking about such things, anon
>you bet I'm fucking mad our species is an arrogant shit stain that will never, fucking ever be able to look at something someone else does better than us and not masturbate furiously over how secretly better than them we are.
well its pretty obvious we are the superior racewe exist
>>27138001
are you roleplaying as a unicorn and talking about the other two races?
>>27137980
Humans would have to build machines that could direct weather, machines that could create clouds, and machines that could shape and charge them. This is not within the scope of a single or even multiple wars, and if it were, the earth would be a very different place than it is now.
>>27137977
I joined in after the lol u mad post and have no idea what the original discussion was, nor do I care. It was just fun to watch you get mad. Oh well, thanks for the fun and try no to have a rage-induced heart-attack.
Haha, I truled u bretty gud.
>>27138044
No, but seriously, thanks for the fun, anon. Smell ya later.
>>27138020
>cross the trench filled with guns
>kill the enemy recon pilots
>pierce the knight's armor
we've done it before. it won't be on the scale of terraforming a planet, but local weaponized weather seems within a world war scale conflict's tech evolution, given where humans stand as of now. even just a "safe zone" of weather over troops, negating the pone's artificial weather, is enough for a reasonable counter.
Don't discount humans being shitstains to each other preventing peacetime progress.
but being a futurist is a pseudoscience at best, so keep that in mind when I say this.
>>27138069
>>cross a trench is comparable to building a system of weather control that could revolutionize everything.
Vehicles have existed long before tanks, this is more akin to trying to build cars to run people over in the 100 years war.
>>27138082
they looked far more medieval than any car from 1917
tanks were introduced without notification to ground troops on both sides, and first reports of them from troops make them sound like then enemy has dragons
weather control exists in a very limited capacity, like motorized transport was. while the scale might seem off, I'm using the resources of a unified human race as reference, rather than a 2 sided human conflict in a single region of the world.
what I question with development is:
>how long is this war?
>what is the motivation?
>how are humans staging themselves on the rear lines? from space? a small portal on land?
if the conflict is long enough (world war) or the motivation is some form of desperation (humans escaping a dying planet and need to conquer a new world) it is very possible
a small conflict would most likely end in peace before anyone got their shit pushed in anyway.
>>27138151
>>what is the motivation
Probably at first resouce stealing scum bags like we are, and then the world becomes outraged at the strange aliens ignoring the geneva conventions on weather based warfare against a superior opponent. I have a hard time believing in a unified front as this is an offensive war, there are plenty of peon countries in our world that are buttmad at being in a hot shot's sphere of influence that would love to use this time to NOPE the fuck out and do what they want.
>>27138167
oh and as for the duration. I honestly have no idea. It's to sensitive to politics.
>>27138167
if NATO, Russia, China, and India worked together for long enough, I'd consider that as unified as the human race could get.
as for the weather modification ban, it only applies to UN nations that were present to sign it in 1977. Several major powers weren't there and would likely be used as a political loophole.
>>27138176
that is very true.
this all becomes very particular to the specific events once you look into the details. no wonder why most anons give up on this and just resort to shouting.
>>27135272
WHY ARE THERE SO MANY SPELLING ERRORS???
