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Can you even argue it?
>>26908306
Zecora would be black
Prove me wrong
>>26908306
No shit
>>26908306
No shit.
>>26908306
1. They're all voiced by white VAs and just sound sound white.
2. Cis isn't a real word. Cis implies that there are more than two genders, and since there are only two naturally-occurring sexes and sex and gender are so closely entwined, there's no other genders than male and female, of course they're all "cis".
3. Aside from RD, I don't remember any of them having a crush or infatuation with other females.
>>26908318
South Africa
Rhodesiarip
>>26908306
I would argue pretty emphatically that RD would be gay as fuck. probably twilight too. not necessarily for each other but eh, they'd work if they tried.
What is cis anyways?
>inb4 CIS
>>26908384
>low-effort shitposting
>>26908306
Dash is gay as fuck though.
>>26908306
Hm...
Can't find any arguements. I would still say Dash is a Dyke thought because fuck her.
>>26908403
A prefix meaning "on the same side as," rooted in Latin. Contrast trans, also rooted in Latin.
>>26908384
>> since there are only two naturally-occurring sexes and sex and gender are so closely entwined, there's no other genders than male and female, of course they're all "cis".
yeah you don't know anything about biology, it doesn't all fit into your southern family values and bible, buddy. evolution and mutations exist, so do prenatal mutations.
>>26908403
The little brother of the CIA.
>>26908384
>Cis isn't a real word.
Cis is a real word, shitlord.
Have you never taken a chemistry class?
>>26908403
A Tumblr meme word that means that you identify as the gender that you were born as
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>>26908437
>it doesn't all fit into your southern family values and bible, buddy.
>>26908441
Chemistry is an oppressive product of the patriarchy and more electronegative atoms take the electrons of less electronegative ones instead of sharing them equally.
>>26908454
pretty much expected that would be your heuheuiposteditagain.jpg reaction image to that post, doesn't make you any more right.
>>26908384
Cis is actually a real word, just used in increasingly retarded context. It is NOT "normal" in any sense of the word to want to be the other sex so badly that you're willing to pay for operations or take hormones.
>>26908398
Argentinia is white too!
N-Never forget that!
>>26908437
Evolution is not a license to make up genders on the fly, either. Mammals ha e two sexes, everything else is a genetic and or birth defect
end of story
>>26908454
>>26908484
yes, it isn't normal.
what exactly is your point? No one was saying it usually happens.
>>26908470
I was not the guy you responded to, and I was not making an opposing argument.
I simply like to point out fedora-tipping when I see it.
>>26908470
>>26908470
Tell me how it feels to be a gender other than male or female and what makes it so different that it doesn't fall under a subcategory of the standard two or sounds just plain stupid.
>>26908493
Yes, and when someone has a birth defect, and that defect causes them suffering, you treat them, because human beings are (to an extent) compassionate to others. although you would be correct in saying its just as human to lynch them for being different and making you feel slightly uncomfortable.
>>26908437
I'm in a medical program and I can safely say my professor has never talked to me about gender queers.
>>26908498
>uses straw man in argument
>is anally ravaged when someone makes a straw man of him
Wew, lad.
This thread reminded me to take my estrogen for the night. Thanks, /mlp/!
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>>26908560
Do you want to be the cute mare, anon?
>>26908507
It's thrown out like some kind of counter-word like most of the population are the wrong ones for not having body issues that extreme.
Honestly, and I know my word means nothing in the end, but this and the obnoxious pronoun shit need to end. It doesn't really help for much but making easier entry points for people to jump down someone else's throat for saying something.
>>26908538
>you treat them
Thin line between enabling a mental illness and psychological therapy for a consition with no cure
One has a basket of mental issues and self diagnoses as a tranny, the other is born with a defect and is referred to a psychiatrist.
More often than not, it's someone having some form of dissociative disorder
>>26908531
well buddy oh, Genders are a pretty maluable social construct that mostly has to do with self identity, for the most part, genders in the trans context refers to the kind of gender of the body you would feel comfortable having. Not everyone chooses to go all the way through with every proceedure because like all treatment, the goal is to eliminate suffering, so you wind up with people who don't quite cross your pretty little line.
Unless you meant actual sexual characteristics, in which case theres a bunch of fucking wierd animals and breeding characteristics that make it pretty clear that the only reason we have two clear sexes for the most part is because it's pretty successful as an evolutionary advantage, not because the others would be unnatural or that they don't happen.
>>26908521
at least you posted a picture of a real fedora, not felating the bible's definition of morality isn't fedora tipping to anyone but the most deranged christfag though.
>>26908559
>implying same Anon
dal wew
>>26908538
>>26908608
The idea of "cis-gendered" is more the result of human idiocy than anything.
>>26908596
Not that Anon... But I wouldn't mind being a cute mare.
>>26908596
You know it
7 months on HRT, finally starting to get some cuteness going on
>>26908664
Yeah, but if you really want to help them, calling them idiots does nothing, moving then towards the proper diagnosis and care is the right path
>>26908608
>>Thin line between enabling a mental illness and psychological therapy for a consition with no cure
see I hear this shit a lot. it's usually from people who are uncomfortable and dont want transgendered people to get treatment for their condition, why? because its not a cure, and we should just use psychotherapy. it reeks of a christfag run christian gaycamp. Transgendered individuals have a much better improved quality of life when they undergo therapy, hrt, and surgery. It's enabling people to feel better and have less depression for an extant condition.
And yeah, you need to go through therapy to get surgery, so pretty much the last half of your post is irrelevant since theyre going to get the gauntlet of questions to make sure theyre on the right track anyway.
>>26908689
We aren't peoples babysitters. I'm a Doctor and I can safely day even under oath that I will not enable this mental degeneracy.
>>26908644
>posts meme defending his choice of cranial attire
>thinks he's somehow immune from criticism
dew law
>>26908680
Post pics
Not nudes, but progress. Curious about the process because I might be trans
>>26908689
But for the most part there isn't a mental disorder going on here. It's idiocy. There are already categories established for people who have mismatched sexes and genders. You talk as though as the people who believe this shit are messed up in the head, but so far I've found no such correlation. If you think they need mental help, make sure you having something other than "my little girl is a tomboy".
>>26908737
>>i'm a doctor
aww thats adorable, you're like one of those retarded scientists who signed the pledge against climate change, conveniently ignoring that they and neither did nearly anyone else who did, had any specialty in meteorology or weather.
When people want to transition, normal gps will usually refer them to someone who will treat them, just like any specialist, it just doesn't get charged as one under insurance unless they actually are one. no ones coming to you for treatment unless they're lost on how the medical community works.
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>>26908680
I see.
Tell me about yourself, anon.
Have you always felt this way?
Was your father there for you?
Were you happy as a child?
Have you ever been suicidal?
Are you a happier person now?
>>26908764
Oh lord, no. I've already learned my lesson when it comes to selfies. Besides, how I look at 7 months probably won't be how you look at seven months. It's a commitment that takes years.
But I'll tell you this: cisgender people don't sit around wondering if they might be trans. It just doesn't happen.
>>26908846
Yes, yes, no, yes, yes.
>>26908717
>>26908796
People who undergo these procedures typically experience depression and anxiety, at the level of or worse than before, the procedure. The procedure doesn't fix the problem the original person had which is that they not comfortable with their body. A genuine disorder that will not go away even if everyone on Earth whole heartily accepted them as the other gender. Talk to actual doctors who specialize in these disorders and they'll tell you the same thing. One of the facts they'll point to you is that suicide rates are considerably higher among trans people.
Trans people do know that whatever they do, they'd still look like a man rather than a girl, right? It's like a living uncanny valley, they either look like an ugly woman or a teenaged boy.
>>26908398
>South Africa
Because Zecora the voodoo alchemist sounds like Yolandi.
>>26908717
>christfag
So what is with people with every sexual drama and business you can think of and their immediate, utter rejection of religion? Not even limited to this thread, anything even remotely related to sex brings out this bitter ire in people
I don't think a single post here said anything about sin, degeneracy, wickedness, any language that /pol/ would use or even a christoan who has said the terms in their studies many times that it becomes predictable.
>see I hear this shit alot
Then learn to identify a trend. In a world where schizophrenia is real, it's not farfetched for someone to have gender dysphoria, but it is just as plausinle that there are oyher underlying issues involved in both the psychology and physiology of an individual.
What's more, the person in the image spent alot of time discussing with someone with the issue and most would probably never even know of it, for it being from /pol/ and the attitude people have from even reading from there.
>>26908877
More bullshit myths from retarded pollocks i see
Oh yes, THAT study that Milo loves referencing
>McHugh does cite one study from 2011, by Cecilia Dhejne, MD and colleagues at Karolinska Institute in Stockholm. However, he misunderstands Dr. Dhejnes work. In the paper, Dr. Dhejne states that the study was not designed to draw conclusions on the efficacy of transgender surgeries, yet McHugh does exactly that. A closer reading of the paper shows that the increased mortality is in those who had surgery before 1989, and that mortality in trans people after 1989 is not statistically different from the general population. A recently published paper by Dr. Dhejne and colleagues shows that the regret rate for those having surgery from 2001-2010 is only 0.3%. Dr. Dhejnes work shows that outcomes for transgender surgery have improved tremendously in the past 30 years, which supports the HHS decision to remove trans exclusions.
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Anonymous 08/31/15(Mon)00:13:14 No.4871184?
>>4871182
And just a few examples to contrast:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassignment_therapy
>A recent Swedish study (2010) found that galmost all patients were satis?ed with sex reassignment at 5 years, and 86% were assessed by clinicians at follow-up as stable or improved in global functioningh[13] A prospective study in the Netherlands that looked at the psychological and sexual functioning of 162 adult applicants of adult sex reassignment applicants before and after hormonal and surgical treatment found that "The vast majority functioned quite well psychologically, socially and sexually. Two non-homosexual male-to-female transsexuals expressed regrets."
>>26908977
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12856892
>This study examined factors associated with satisfaction or regret following sex reassignment surgery (SRS) in 232 male-to-female transsexuals operated on between 1994 and 2000 by one surgeon using a consistent technique. Participants, all of whom were at least 1-year postoperative, completed a written questionnaire concerning their experiences and attitudes. Participants reported overwhelmingly that they were happy with their SRS results and that SRS had greatly improved the quality of their lives. None reported outright regret and only a few expressed even occasional regret. Dissatisfaction was most strongly associated with unsatisfactory physical and functional results of surgery.
I'm sure you won't read any of it though, this thread is made every single day after all
>>26908877
and to follow up, no, they won't tell you that trans people experience higher suicide rates after surgery. They will tell you all about how to transition, make sure that you're informed of all the risks, and have you prove yourself not only of sound mind, but in a position to transition safely (IE away from chucklefucks that are convinced the easiest way to solve this condition is a noose.)
>>26908868
>Yes, yes, no, yes, yes.
Was the unhappiness due to your gender dysphoria?
Are you sexually attracted to women?
Are you comfortable with your penis?
Are you in general in favor of leftist politics, like multicultural welfare states?
Were you ever molested as a child?
I'm sorry if that last one is too much on the nose. I'm just genuinely curious about this stuff, since I understand so little of it. It's fine if you don't wanna talk about it.
>>26908737
No inevitably you're right but if you take the time and breath a little, I'm gonna guess you'll agree with me that we all enter a social contract and try out options before giving up
I mean you can't help someone who won't help themselves but it's good for people as a whole to correct each other's steps, even if only in an ideal world
>>26908938
>>So what is with people with every sexual drama and business you can think of and their immediate, utter rejection of religion?
probably the same as others religion being a strong indicating factor in their rejection of someone who deviates from missionary sex of the same race, different genders, for the sole purpose of procreation in the dark.
Really, you think you'd have noticed the huge oupouring of hatred for homosexuals trans people and basically anyone not them that comes from the religious south. the thing is, this doesnt have anything to do with religion, especially since most of the hatred of different things exists in humanity regardless of any influence the bible ever had even with its more twisted passages, but people like you, who instantly spring to call anyone who thinks differently a fedora tipper, make it about that anyway.
>>then learn to identify a trend
No, I've identified the trend, you are the one who needs to catch up. transgendered people have to go through months to a year of therapy in the most liberal of countries to begin transitioning. they have people making sure that they are not about to dive into it just because of escapism or sexual fantasy. yet despite that the same bullshit you are spouting gets repeated adnausium.
>>26909042
Yes, Pass, No, Pass, No
Those two particular cans of /pol/ bait can stay closed.
>>26909132
Do you believe people still follow Christianity like some form of dogmatic authoritarian rule book? This isn't the fucking dark ages, most people these days can be classified as "sunday Christians".
>>26909142
Good. I'm glad that you weren't molested.
So do you think this is a genetic thing?
I ask about the leftist stuff because I can't wrap my mind around why so many LGBT people support the mass immigration of people who want to stone them because of who they are.
>>26909246
Again, not going to be biting any /pol/ bait.
I don't know if the cause is genetic, and I hope that we never find out.
>>26909209
No moron, if you knew how to read, you'd know that what you read does not imply any of that, but rather posits that the reason that shit is in the bible in the first place is because human beings are shit bags and wanted it in there.
Humans constantly crave ideologies that put them on the top of the heap above scores of unworthies, just look around you. what that means in this context is that Christianity is basically at no fault, and the dumb oppressive hicks in the south have only themselves to blame for their bigotry.
>>26909326
>Again, not going to be biting any /pol/ bait.
It's not /pol/ bait, it's a genuine inquiry.
I just can't make any sense of it. In my opinion, if anyone in the west should be nationalistic, it should be the LGBT crowd.
>I don't know if the cause is genetic, and I hope that we never find out.
Why not?
>>26909435
There is no ethical application for that knowledge, but plenty of unethical ones.
>>26909335
I live in the "bigoted south" and there are no mobs of people looking for niggers and queers to mob. Most people don't care, you were the one who called the other anon "a southerner" because he didn't look in favor of Trans people.
>>26909467
Do you honestly believe Eugenics will rise again?
>>26909335
Different groups will always have different interests. It's only natural for people to have in-group preference, as well as an innate desire for one's own group to excel.
This whole notion that all of mankind must come together is a naive pipe dream. No such society has ever existed, nor can it ever exist. It's a fight against the laws of nature, one that can never be won.
>>26908412
Cannon proof for that?
>>26909132
>the south
>people like you
See this is what I mean
I've made zero assumptions and zero labels, have not even so far as namecalled, but here you are entering this discussion with all this baggage and presumptions about people who are not here and things I am not
You even admit that it has nothing to do with religion yet you continue to blame religious people specifically for hate, as if hate is somehow exclusively innate in religious followers.
>make it like that anyway
No, the very first instance if this was someone putting down christians, out of nowhere, entirely unprovoked, here
>>26908437
The bible was nowhere mentioned, which is likely why someone reacted with a fedora picture
>caught up
I don't you are "caught up" at all, again, you're making your own assumptions and deciding for yourself what I am talking about entirely for your own convenience.
The image and my post explicitly mentioned dissociative disorders, a very real and not uncommon disorder, as a likely scenario; Nowhere did I mention that it was a sexual fantasy. I was not even getting into the procedures of an operation, you are driving that discussion all by yourself.
Even if you agree that they do get all sorts of counseling and have every filter and breakdown of treatment before heavier treatment, then you would still agree, as that is all I've said, except you decided to have this whole image of a Westbaro priest lynching gay babies of me played out.
See, calling out someone for their religion doesn't magically condemn them or add weight to your case, it just broadcasts your own frustrations which is why I asked why people react like that everytime. Absolutely not the first time and it definitely won't be the last.
>greentext stuff modded to oblivion
>not even subtle /pol/shit stays.
>confirmed mods = fags
>>26909467
>There is no ethical application for that knowledge, but plenty of unethical ones.
So information and knowledge should be suppressed because of your own group's interests?
>>26909514
I don't suggest they go out hunting for them. Just that their opinions on trans and gays are on the whole completely antiquated and bigoted. That's pretty clear from their political stance on homosexuality and trans people. They don't need a mob, they have legislation to push gay people back into the dark ages.
As for the south, I live here too.
>>26909435
Not that person but I'll bite.
Why would anyone want to be nationalist? We're all people wherever you go. We aren't better than others. and as a whole Muslims are pretty chill in the united states. There are rich Christians on the other hand in our country right now, that want to behead or incarcerate gay people and institute a Christian state religion. Most of those people are for the jingo as well. Ironically /pol/ and /ck/ and other /b/ tards openly embraced one of the most ardent fans of that kind of thing. The CEO of chickafil donated millions to a family values group that was pretty reviled for their open support of Uganda's death penalty for gay people reform. I think we can handle a few million poor Muslims. We already put up with plenty of crazyness from non immigrant right wings.
>>26909565
>>Different groups will always have different interests. It's only natural for people to have in-group preference, as well as an innate desire for one's own group to excel.
I agree, I dont agree however that this is a good thing, at least in the dosage our evolution has left us with.
>>This whole notion that all of mankind must come together is a naive pipe dream. No such society has ever existed, nor can it ever exist. It's a fight against the laws of nature, one that can never be won.
people said the same thing about a lot of things. we dont all have agree, we don't all have to get along, but we do have to come together if we don't want to fade into obscurity till the next blank slate asteroid wipes us clean.
>>26909589
>>I've made zero assumptions and zero labels, have not even so far as namecalled, but here you are entering this discussion with all this baggage and presumptions about people who are not here and things I am not
see you're the one off base here, this is a conversation that is anonymous and has a context to it. a pretty clear one if you bothered to read into what i was arguing against. the fact that you intercede to try to play devils advocat necessitates that you are taking that position even if you don't hold it dear, so yes, you are going to get some shit flung at you. Responding to tone isn't just a fallacy, it's an inflexible part of the 4 chan experiance to have "tone"
>>You even admit that it has nothing to do with religion yet you continue to blame religious people specifically for hate, as if hate is somehow exclusively innate in religious followers.
no, thats your own lie and fabrication. I don't blame religion for the hate, I made it very clear I don't. I do blame religious people just as I do any other person.
>No, the very first instance if this was someone putting down christians, out of nowhere, entirely unprovoked, here
now this I admit is honestly jerking my reflex here, but I'll stave it off a bit. react rationally instead of emotionally. What you are saying, is that it is insuling and a put down to christians, to say that biology is more complicated than the clean categories given in the holy book? what you are effectively saying is that insistig that something is more diverse than depicted by christianity is a sneak attack, an uncalled for jab. at what exactly? what possible reason could any christian have to be upset at this other than if they felt they where entitled to perfection and the whole objective truth all to themselves? What I posted was not a put down, it was a fact. the fact may be distressing to some christians, but that does not make it an insult, any more than to say trans people make some people feel uncomfortable.
>>26909622
>We aren't better than others.
Sure. Cultures where babies are raped to cure aids, girls are genitally mutilated, rape victims are put to death, we're no better than them.
>We're all people wherever you go.
Absolutely. I mean, it's not like Shiites and Sunnis are blowing each other up for slightly different interpretations of their own religion. Of course they can coexist peacefully with Christians, Jews, gays, feminists, you name it. When have they not?
>>26909525
Eugenics never went away. The issue of eugenics aside, isolating a cause for transsexualism would inevitably lead to somebody trying to come up with a cure -- but would that person ever consider that the cure might seem an awful lot like a lobotomy? You're talking about changing a person's identity at a fundamental level, and no amount of legislation would ever protect transgender people from having that process applied without their consent. Really, you're talking about self-determination at the core of this issue.
>>26909620
It's not a matter of interests, it's a question of whether or not you allow a portion of the population to exist without fearing that they might be lobotomized just for existing outside the norm.
>>26909335
>top of the heap
Romans chapter 3 verse twenty tree fiddy
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of god
isiah 40:15 behold all the nations are as a drop from a bucket, and are counted as the snall dust on the balance
We're pretty small and terrible, probably why we have Easter to remind us a certain someone who died to offer us redemption
>>26908306
As I recall, of the Mane 6 only Rarity has had any indication of romantic attraction. And no, Twilight in Equestria Girls doesn't fucking count.
I hope for her sake RD's gay because she's going to get hit on by a lot of girls.
>>26908306
And none of them would ever sleep with you, even on a dare.
>>26909645
>I dont agree however that this is a good thing
Too bad.
>we do have to come together if we don't want to fade into obscurity
How does this work?
If European nations are preserved exclusively for their native populations, how will they fade into obscurity?
>>26909589
>I don't you are "caught up" at all, again, you're making your own assumptions and deciding for yourself what I am talking about entirely for your own convenience.
that is more like what you are doing actually, as stated above.
>>the disorder is real
yes, I never said otherwise.
>>you are diving into that discussion by myself
No I am not. this discussion is a long standing one, and as I've already stated, you decided to particpate in it, you'd best get aqainted with what people said before you before you jump in and take their side in a debate.
>>see calling out people on their religion
is just about as fair as calling op a faggot, and anyone who doesn't worship the sky wizard a fedora tipping greasy edge lord. welcome to the show, you aren't making a case here, I already even explained all of this to you, that this conversation constantly exists because someone decides not being christfag is some fedora tipping offense of autism.
I'm not sure what to say about your post on agreeing and filters as you said. you where the one pushing the idea that treatment for GID is a trap option that should be avoided with psychotherapy. I have given you reasons why that is not the case, so we emphatically disagree on that point.
>>26909780
>It's not a matter of interests, it's a question of whether or not you allow a portion of the population to exist without fearing that they might be lobotomized just for existing outside the norm.
It's always a matter of interests, and that was the mother of all slippery slopes that you posted right there.
Knowledge alone can't hurt you.
>>26909887
If we lived in a world where the murder rate of transgender people wasn't so absurdly high, I would probably agree with your viewpoint. That one out of every twelve transgender people winds up being murdered is pretty strong evidence for the world not being very happy about our existence, though.
>>26909761
>Sure. Cultures where babies are raped to cure aids, girls are genitally mutilated, rape victims are put to death, we're no better than them.
we've genocided an entire race, stole their land, turned america into a state of fear with witch trials in the 50s and 60s, put innocent people to life prison sentances for rape while drunk drivers who kill people get off lightly, and think the best way to deal with gays is to kill them all. Put american citizens into concenration camps because of their heritage, and are riddled with gang violence, drugs, school shootings. We've done tons of bad things too. we've done even worse abroad, gitmo, etc.
>it's not like Shiites and Sunnis are blowing each other up for slightly different interpretations of their own religion.
its not like we wheren't blowing eachother up over slavery and are only a unified country under force of arms.
>>why have they not
I wonder if it has anything to do with imperialism where western countries dove into the middle east and cut up their empire for land and oil, giving power to any tyrant figure head regardless of the consiquences to the people or culture, because the price was good for us.
If there were a pill or drug to treat and cure gender dysmorphism, would you take it rather than hormones?
>>26909792
>>we're pretty small and terrible we just have a whole universe made for us, with women who must obey us, and the creater of the entire universe looks just like us, and he sent a savior to a specific part of the world to save us and only us, and then we get to save the poor people who never could have heard of them. too bad about those people before then I suppose
But in all seriousness, no moron, the bible is a clusterfuck of contradictions, no amount of quoting it is going to resolve any issue. Sects will have their interpretations. Apparently yours favors the "We are tiny" fascet. but you better believe it's not much in practice. No reason to be upset about that. less than 50 % of jews even observe kosher eating habits.
>>26909814
do you not know what an asteroid is? or are you just quoting that out of context to be cheeky?
>>26910057
No. If I suddenly became cisgender, I wouldn't be the same person because my perception of the world would be rewritten from the ground up.
>>26910078
How does mass-immigration from less technologically advanced nations improve our chances of surviving planet-destroying asteroids?
>>26910057
I probably wouldn't. because I'm into really really girly shit anyway, and no amount of cure pills is going to make frilly scrap booking, victorian tea parties and cute arts and crafts any more socially acceptable for men.
>>26909754
>That's your own lie and fabrication
>>26908717
>it reeks of a christfag run christian gaycamp.
No, that is what I have read.
>this has a context
Just lol, yes, a context you have entirely conjured up for yourself, as if you wanted nothing else but this argument. I hardly even hijacked a discussion, I started this with my own question, with its own scope away from this because it has a broader scope, I have much much more run ins with promiscuous girls throwing tantrums than this 4chan favorite of a post post post post modern sexual theory topic.
>What you are saying
Did I not already tell you to stop putting words in my mouth? Is it that hard for you to see that going from defending a faith to outright denying biology is riddled with your own prejudices from your leap of logic?
Don't muddle this than you already have, it is a "jab" because you are purposely provoking any Christian lurker by insinuating that because the bible is not a 21st Century medical encyclopedia, they are "in the dark ages", your words again, and that they can't be educated in big boy concepts. That is not the protection of an ego like you think, but a reaction for your reaction because you're being a dick
>it was a fact
So was me saying trans people likely have iyher menyal issues, supported by this practice of ruling out everything else before moving on, yet here you are twenty some reies later. Funny how facts tend to have implications that people read from them.
>>26910145
>>immigration.
thats a pretty niche thing, I'm talking about global cooperation, and people being at a level of tolerating eachother so that they don't drop an asteroid on us, because any technology that can defend against asteroids can be used to make them hit earth too. it also doesn't hurt that we can address problems that affect the world as it is now with global cooperation, like global warming and our dwindling resources.
>>26909979
>America did bad things in its past so therefore we're on the same plane developing countries.
Yes because in America, women fear rape at around every corner, school shootings are "rampant", and obviously poor minorities aren't responsible for there own actions that's the white peoples fault.
>We had a civil war too!
Ours hasn't lasted since the inception of Islam and divided the middle east into a bunch of querying states for centuries.
>Imperialism ruined everything!
There was clearly conflicts before we got there, we just gave them better guns to fight. We may share the blame for ISIS and Al-queda having formed but they were in there civil wars long before that.
>>26910197
>it reeks of a christfag run christian gaycamp.
What you have read is a statment that makes it pretty clear that it's similar to a bad thing religious people do. Religious people, as I've already told you, and you constantly ignore, are people, they do bad things, and they will get their share of blame.
> a context you have entirely conjured up for yourself,
no dumbass, I didn't call myself a fedora tipper, that was your side.
>>a bunch of shit about you and promiscuous girls.
not really relevant to me, you didn't hijack the discussion, you are participating in it. and it reflects poorly on a participant who does not address the context and chooses to ignore it. This isn't a debate hall, this is an anonymous forum, no one is going to know who you are, so you get to represent an idea, not a person, unless you of course specifically say otherwise, but you haven't done that, you've only left yourself open to it so you could rip into someone when they inevitably do so, conciously or not.
>>did I not tell you to stop putting words in my mouth
No, thats what I told you, and what you've continued to do incessantly. I have not put any words in your mouth.
>>is it hard for you to see that going from defending a faith to outright denying biology is riddled with your own predjudices and leaps of logic.
No human is free from bias, but I am doing my best at that, as for leaps of logic, no dumbass, once again, thats you, leaping to conclusions that somehow promoting a dissenting opinion is a put down to christianity. I am not putting words in your mouth, those are your words.
>>don't muddle this anymore than it is
That is you muddling it.
>>it is a jab because you are purposely provoking christian lurkers by insinuating that the bible is not a modern document.
I've already explained this to you you retard. Nevermind your strange psychic powers that can somehow divine my motivation to piss of christfags, the action I took was not offensive.
>>26910061
>contradictions
No there is not, just ignorance of the context and messages
>no amount of quoting
how dare you
>interpretations
are handled by the one and only Catho-AHAHAHAHAHAHA no but it boils down to either you believe the capital C Catholic knows the word or the lowercase c catholic can intrepret themselves
That is a Church debate for another day and debate, but a case for Catholicism is that people who decide what they want to take can lead to your colorful example of lynch mobs with pitchforks such as the Westboro Church
>>26908384
This.
>>26908405
>Implying shit posting
Go back to Tumblr.
>>26908437
It takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. Maybe there are some more people involved, maybe it used machines, or maybe no one knows who the daddy is; but all that is required is a mommy and a daddy. Female and male.
>>26908484
Also this.
>>26910197
It was a statment of fact that simply contradicts their world view. if that provokes them, if they cannot handle an opinion or fact that contradicts what their faith teaches them, thats on their own head, and it is not any fault of mine. I was not hostile or caustic in it any more than you could have expected in reverse, when they made a clear statment that the sexes are divinitively and cleanly divided and anything else is delusion. Yet we don't see me insinuating that theyre being predjudice against athiests because they challenged my position. no that's the case because they call anyone who isn't them a greasy katana toteing fedora tiper.
>>and that they can't be educated in big boy concepts.
If i thought that was the case I wouldnt post it. but you are right that the religious people who refuse to understand the sexes are not cleany devided but a product of evolution, cannot be educated in it. not because they are incapable, but because they refuse.
>>so was me saying trans people likely have mental issues
divorcing things from the context of your own statment, you said self diagnose, and enabling and illness, and that more often than not, the person is not trans at all, therefore making the implication pretty clear. Trannys usually self diagnose and are enabled to harm themselves when they really have some other condition. You give the alternative of course, but the stance I'm taking is that your assessment of the negative side has been overplayed to death by your side, and is actually such a small percentage that your thin line is no fucking problem.
>>26909972
Is that statistic global, or exclusive to western countries?
>>26910289
>>America did bad things in its past so therefore we're on the same plane developing countries.
No, we're on the fast track ahead of them, and as long as you acknowledge that we are improving, you are nothing but a biggot if you behave as though they cannot improve.
as for your hilarious comments on frequency, you did just the same you fool.
>>minorities we conqured and messed with aren't taking responsability for their own actions
see, you aren't taking responsability for your own actions white people. when they do it, its their fault, but when we destablize their nation, theyre expected to just cope.
>>ours hasn't lasted since the inception of islam
it was still bloodier than most islamic wars, and is only over because of force of arms, not because many people still do not want to fragment from america. basically what you are saying is that because we stamped them out better than the islamic people stamped out their sects, the islamic people are the only ones at fault because theyre not doing a good job at being dicks to themselves like we did.
>>there was clearly conflict before we got there
Yes, that means whatever we did is fine, because it wasn't perfect when we got there. yup.
>>26909972
Cite your sources you utter retard. You expect people to believe a statistic because "muh social media sayd it"? Jesus, this is why actual people don't take you seriously.
>>26910380
>It takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. Maybe there are some more people involved, maybe it used machines, or maybe no one knows who the daddy is; but all that is required is a mommy and a daddy. Female and male.
and as I already went over this, that is why it continues to work, and why the adaptation is so popular. that doesn't mean there aren't mutations and gradients, even among those who can reproduce, such as women with Y chromosomes that are completely insensitive to androgens.
>>26910201
Roughly 97% of all technological innovation has taken place within either Europe or North-America.
If you want to solve global environmental issues, I would start with keeping those nations as pristine as possible.
>>26910459
my guess is global (i hope)
>>26910490
it works for our enemies, why not us? in all seriousness though I do support citing sources.
>>26910509
>>roughtly 97% of technological innovation has taken place in europ or north america
saying numbers doesn't make it true. given the level of sophistication the east has had before we overcame them, I can tell you you are factually wrong.
>>26910314
Are we just going in circles?
>You said this
>No you read that wrong
>No YOU read that wrong
>I already said you were wrong
>I said it before you
Someone made a fedora meme, a classic, but only after someone made an almost predictable jab at Christians for their voodoo dark ages science hating book.
I found that amusing, as if someone ate ice cream and found out it wasn't the flavor thet wanted and blamed Obama.
sheesh you just posted again I can't keep up on my phone,
>your stance
>thin line
Yea and this could have ended way sooner if you did not decide to pile up twenty other arguments on top
>this guys says it's likely a dissociative disorder
>That's only a few cases
>oh ok
Did I even really push it? Unless you're going to bring up someone else in which case it's a mixture of ten anons and chasing relevant posts is exhausting as this already is
>if it probokes them thats in them
No thats you being a dick, like when a kid shoves another and says well they can always just get out of the way!
>>26910546
>>predicatable jab
saying a lie over and over again doesn't make it true, I've explained to you twice in full and four times in brief that this is not a jab and anyone who takes offense has only themselves to blame. Big lies are a fallacy.
>>I found that amusing, as if someone ate ice cream and found out it wasn't the flavor thet wanted and blamed Obama.
sounds quite like every human sub group ever. take waifus for instance.
>>Yea and this could have ended way sooner if you did not decide to pile up twenty other arguments on top
and yet this could have been avoided entirely if you took even a little bit of effort to differentiate yourself instead of retributively getting mad when people made it clear what they where already fighting over. You walked on the battlefield wearing a matching uniform of the opposing side and wonder why you're bleeding now.
>Did I even really push it? Unless you're going to bring up someone else in which case it's a mixture of ten anons and chasing relevant posts is exhausting as this already is
you are continuing to push your own statments and I'm continuing to counter them. some topics are more emphasized than others by this point, but the arguement has been pretty clear; you have not capitulationg to any statement I made, therefore you agree with none of them, and are only shifting topics to stuff you are more eager to attack. If you are expecting me to think you believe it any less because you spent more time trying to imply false accusations about me attacking christians for being christians instead of being human with human flaws (like being assholes) I'm not sure I can give you any answer that will assuage you.
>>No thats you being a dick, like when a kid shoves another and says well they can always just get out of the way!
only not. They are the ones insisting that people can be divided up cleanly, theyre the ones pushing a topic, it is not offensive to take the other side and push back.
>>26910536
I'm not, although I can't find the source to prove it at the moment.
I know orientals have really high IQs, but I think you'd be surprised by how few inventions actually stem from eastern Asia.
In fact, the Arab world has a slight lead on them in terms of technological innovation.
>>26908306
Look at Dash's face. Does that look like the face of heterosexuality to you?
>>26910694
>>i'm not!
you are, saying you';re not doesnt make it true either
>>IQ
irrelevant.
>>you'd be surprised how few inventions actually stem from east asia
They made just about every technology before we did, they just didn't refine it because the people in charge didn't give a fuck.
The only way you can say europe and america invented 97% of technology is to do something retarded like count each thing as one thing, like farming threaded screws, ball point pens all equalling the same. for some thousands and thousands of years, the east was ahead of us in technology, you're wrong, the west wasn't responsible for them having shit other than rocks to push against other rocks.
>>26908306
Rarity should be half asian
Twilight is fine
Applejack needs to look more inbred
Pinkie needs different shoes.
Fluttershy is fine
Dashy is half nigger.
>>26910783
applejack has one eye severely bigger than the other even accounting for perspective, what more do you want?
>>Dashy is half nigger.
people who discriminate by race are so dumb. either that or they are so much of a basement dwelling fuck up that they don't understand what a tan is.
>>26910817
I understand what a tan is, but her attitude, intelligence and athletic skills are just stereotypical for a black person.
>>26910783
>half asian
>mid-atlantic accent
>>26910743
Yes, the east was ahead of Europe for a long time, but when the Europeans caught up, they did it by a massive margin.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/list_of_inventions_by_country.shtml
Notice how few major inventions there actually are which stem from the east.
>>26910845
oh sorry, thats my bad then, i thought you where saying she was one.
Iunno, I see her more as a partial greece, her athleticism being that Greco-Roman heritage. romands werent dumb as dash isnt but are known to do dumb things as dash is, like declare war on the sea and send soldiers to go slash at it with their preat gear.
>>26910852
>>what is multiculturalism
asian people can live in the mid atlantic
>>26910875
>>list of inventions
>>notice how few there are in the east
china was the first to invent a clock, and the printing press, you're already wrong, the problem is your source is fucking retarded. I wonder if it has anything to do with who runs it. do you know what a source even is? why would you trust a european site to accurately portray the easts technical ability?
>>26910915
European travel site. sorry.
>>26910875
god damn looking at this list just makes it even more god damn biased the more you look, they added musical fucking instruments, as though the ones developed by other countries don't count.
>>26910915
>dad is a hick
>half asian
>>26908306
Some of them look awesome as mexicans.
