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OK /mlp/ real talk. How do we fix the show?
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OK /mlp/ real talk.

How do we fix the show?
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>>25955381
If it ain't broken...
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>>25955381
niceme.me
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>>25955381
For starters
Fire McCunthy
Make Twilight a unicorn librarian again
Remove The Playset Castle (TM)
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>>25955381
Like, how to make it more pleasing to bronies?

Simple.

-cease all character development
-background ponies join main cast
-every joke engineered to be memetic
-profit
-spend profit on bitches and hoes
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>>25955381
Spike leaves forever

Starlight Glimmer takes Spike's place as Twilight's best friend/companion

More fan pandering - Dr. Hooves gets his own episode - OC appearances

Big Mac fully transitions into a manlady

Lyra/BonBon wedding
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>>25955381
By actually hiring a competent and talented team. Oooooh wait Hasbro won't allow for that, they're goblins with shit taste and closed-mindness.
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>>25955381
Have Larson write every episode.
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Let them handle it.
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nobody on /mlp/ gives a flying fuck about the actual show

take your quality discussion elsewhere, or make this into a ponybutt thread
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>>25955534
We literally a meme show now.
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>>25955381
A cadre of talented writers with a coherent long-term plan for the characters.
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>>25955573
Speak for yourself
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>>25955701
some say this comeback was so good that anon was forced to gut himself with the pointy-ish end of his left speaker
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>>25955389
Last 3 seasons were major shitfests with very few passable to good episodes.
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>>25955381
enjoy thing
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>>25955381
>Discord goes trough a rebel phase again
>The sister become relevant
>Glimmer becomes Twillight 2.0 but instead of becoming princess she becomes the ones in the asset leaks from s1
>CMC spin off where they go around equestria doing friendship related stuff
>flutershy dies from a tragic bullet related accident.
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Does anybody have the template?
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>>25956076
for the thing in the OP?
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>>25955381
Fixed
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>>25957014
>eqg shit in the show
>but twilicorn removed
im just not sure, man
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>>25957014
Also Nyx in the front, and where the fuck is Bulk looking?
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>>25955381
In all seriousness:
> Allow for more multi-part episodes to make storylines not so rushed; 2-3 2-parters and 1 3-parter per season.
> Connect more development between episode, so characters change over multiple episodes instead of a few minutes. No more 30-second redemptions.
> Allow the M6 to be wrong and be called on it for their mistakes; don't hesitate to show the consequences of fucking up.
> Flanderizing characters for the sake of easy antagonists or quick jokes is not cool; quit it.
> Fuck all this friendship table and rainbow power nonsense; return to focusing on Celestia/Luna and setting's wider mythology to provide plots.
> Ensure character motivations are solid and rational; any changes to those motivations should occur in a reasonable timeframe and not flip-flop over the course of an episode.
> Don't be afraid to have a villain do visible and lasting damage to emphasize their danger, but do not pointlessly worf characters to the villain for a quick show of 'danger'.

Discuss.
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>>25955381
>implying the show is broken
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>>25957328
No...it's broken, it's been broke since around s2
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>>25955966
Last two seasons were great you fuck
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>>25955381
Kill Twilight.

That's it.
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>>25955966
Says an anon who clearly isn't watching the show
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>>25955381
People that want to fix the show are the same people that want to "make America great again." It is just a stupid catchphrase that idiots say because something they don't like is happening around them.
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>>25957372
>>25957419
Are you even trying to hide your shit tastes?
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>le only season 1 and 2 were great autists
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Make Derpy a main Character, add weed, anon, and alot of PR0N
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>>25958059
Seasin 2 was awful, anon.
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>>25957372
Uh... no?
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>>25958059
Well I mean the show was never a masterpiece but
>s3
>turbo shit
>s4
>pretty shit
>s5
>almost completely shit

i guess theres been some sort of gradual improvement, but thats like saying the twilight sequels are better than the first movie
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>>25955381
Remove Starlight Glimmer

That's the best you can do to fix it at this point.
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>>25958508
I doubt she'll be back.
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It's fine as it is. Stop living in fucking 2012 moaning about Lauren Faust leaving.
You know how Star Trek would've been if Gene Roddenberry had still been around for DS9? Shit, that's how it would've been.

Get rid of the map though. Reveal it to be Celestia and have her learn something of her own (to stop trying to force lessons and have the mane 6/7 go off and do stuff on their own)
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>>25955381
Make it an 'Alvin and the chipmunks/smurfs' style movie where the pones are brought to earth and must help their new best friend get his job/girlfriend back. meanwhile try to rid the world of all the shit humans caused. They finally lose it. and proceed to kill all the humans, bring all the ponies to earth, and make it Equestria 2.0. but then our hero is the only survivor. he is so angry at them killing his entire family and eradicating the earths population that he nukes the whole world 'alluh ackbar' style. Killing him and every pone in existence.

Then he cums inside Rainbow Dash
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A reset.

Plan it all, set it up, knock down whatever backhanded everyone back in time.
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The people who work on the show do their shit as a profession. If I changed it in any way, it might have severe consequences that I couldn't see because I don't work in the industry.
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All they need to do is get rid of the whole castle thing.
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It doesn't need fixing.
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Remove Neal.
He needs to go.
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>>25955381
Simple. Retcon "alicorn" magic so that it's dark magic again, and have a season-long arc where Twilight's new authority ends up corrupting her and driving her to evil.

This shit writes itself. The writers are hacks.
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>>25962828
This. Seriously, his episodes are terrible.
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>>25962828
Also Berrow. She had no business writing for the show in the first place. I wonder whose dick she sucked to move up from writing lousy books.
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>>25962986
Berrow was given a meh first episode. She'd write circles around any currently existing "adventure" episode given the chance. Her books are top-tier stuff now.
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>>25962997
>Her books are top-tier stuff
Only if you're comparing them to the comics.
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>>25955596
>having a "jumping of the shark" included
>literally having "ass-kissing" as the main premise of the 100th episode

when he memes, he does it well.
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>>25963013
She's a better writer than anyone on the comics, and has a better editor too. Not only that, but she actually is passionate about the series and its stories.

There's a Daring Do episode in S6. If they didn't give Berrow, the person who wrote three 200 page Daring Do books that had an overarching plot and a glossary of terms in the back the Daring Do episode, it will be a travesty.
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>>25955381
We can't fix it. The remaining lifespan of the show will go through the following stages:

1.) More and more episodes will be non-Mane 6-oriented, owing to the expanding cast of supporting characters
1b.) An EQG spinoff starring Shim may or may not be in the offing
2.) The movie will come out to decent acclaim in 2017
3.) Hasbro will begin crafting its strategies for G5, attempting to capture the same magic of G4 but without the fantastic lightning-in-a-bottle effect given by G4's fairly great staff
4.) G4 eps after the film will slip greatly in quality, up to and including the main VAs dipping out and cheap knock-off sound-alike VAs doing their best to imitate the mannerisms of the original cast
5.) Season 8 will be a massive flop due to the new cast, the constantly-deteriorating brony fanbase, and the desire to start pushing G5 starting in late 2017/early 2018
6.) Death by lack of interest in 2018.
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>>25963051
Making Daring Do an actual character in the world of Equestria, as opposed to a fictional character in a book in Equestria, was already a shitshow. She can't salvage that. No one can.
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>>25963156
From what I've read of her books, Berrow basically ignores it. She usually has one or two comments about how "Man, this would make a good book!" but the idea is that you're reading the book that she wrote as AK Yearling.

I'll have to check again but she's way more interested in the actual adventuring part of Daring Do than the fact that she's an actual pony.

If Berrow wrote a Daring Do episode it probably wouldn't even show her disguise or talk about it being made into a book at all.
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>>25955381
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>>25955966
>2012 /mlp/: the last season was trash
>2013 /mlp/: the last season was trash
>2014 /mlp/: the last season was trash
>2015 /mlp/: the last season was trash

Clearly the problem is to stop coming to 4chan, or /mlp/ atleast
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>>25957014
Nyx a shit anon kill yourself

>>25957149
>where the fuck is bulk looking at?
Dat ass you fool
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>>25962986
As easy as it is just to snip out a shit writer what about having them work with the other more experianced writers from the show. Don't they Telecommunicate meetings? They don't just all show up at an office building and throw darts at a board of ideas. Right?
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>>25963902
They have a big writing summit once a season and send drafts to the story editor. But all of this is kind of pointless considering S6 is like, almost completely and totally done.

Like seriously, they were animating the finale back in November. I swear that Jim Miller said he worked on parts of S6 at the same time as S5. This hiatus is going to be short.
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>>25963122
I'd hate to see the series die like that
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>>25963122
Isn't that what happen to spongebob?
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>>25963460
Fucking this.
During the season, I tend to be almost completely gone from /mlp/. I don't need you faggots mucking about convincing everyone that it's shit. I'd rather watch it all, then disregard you later when I know you're wrong.
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>>25963122
This was believable up until you got to step 4. Mostly because I don't think the voice actors would bail.
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>>25964135
Only if all the writers get fired at once and replaced with newbies at half the cost.
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>>25962431
>implying the writers know what the fuck they're doing
DYEWTS?
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>>25955453
>fire the person who actually stuck with the show
>retcon multiple seasons to satiate yourself
wew lad
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>>25957014
Bingo
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>>25965278
Good, you expressed yourself on the internet. Now resume sucking on Hasbro's dick.
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>>25965333
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The only thing they can do right now is not make Starlight a main character. Anybody knows adding a character to the series literally spells disaster.
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>>25955381
FlutterCord wedding and focus story on their kids.
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>>25955381
Merge FiM with EqG :^)
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>>25965581
>She is still better than Princess Twilight
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>>25965820
Only Glimmerfags think that. Characters turned Mary Sue are better than characters who join the cast from no where and is instantly accepted. If she really does have a main role next season, it'll be a big problem.
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>>25955381
senpai snoop dogg goes 2 equestria
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>>25955453
Make Spike relevant (again)
Get rid of any ongoing and future (canon) romance subplots this show has. (I'm looking at you fluttercord/Flashlight)
Stop inserting swj archtype characters in the show. (Equality Filly/fat pone)
Make Twilight sacrifice her Alicorn status in order to save Equestria from the God of Disbelief (Aka. the opposite of the Element of Magic/Friendship).
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>>25967661
>God of Disbelief (Aka. the opposite of the Element of Magic/Friendship).
>disbelief being the opposite of friendship
>disbelief =/= friendship
End yourself, family.
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>>25957306
>Fuck all this friendship table and rainbow power nonsense; return to focusing on Celestia/Luna and setting's wider mythology to provide plots.
We need this. Some of Faust's ideas make sense including ponies having problems from outsourcing their weather control to other countries.

I'm tired of macguffins and friendship fables that sometimes feel like bullshit in real life.

I'm also tired of Hasbro micromanaging everything. They're the whole reason why this show lacks potential.

Then again, they're corporate suits that abuse third world countries for cheap labor, have a merchandising show that shills its products like it's Big Brother, and have both a fanbase(bronies) and main audience(girl toddlers) who lack the real life experience to even desire anything better.

It's clear that the writers had some talent. But it's being diluted with more new writers that don't even be arsed to put a twist to [kids cartoon show generic plot #27], or having the ponies act more like a sitcom and less like a pseudo fantasy-urban hodgepodge.

I feel like I got suckered into liking this show by /b/ and they're having a laugh at my expense. It was clear that Hasbro HAD to reinvent the show out of necessity, and anything of quality was pushed aside for the marketing team to pillage and rape.

Here's to you, you meme loving faggots.
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They've done pseudo two parters for seasons now. They need a full two part episode in the middle of a season.
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Add new races
Add more fantasy
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I'm a little tired of all those "how to fix" thread

Let make something different this time

How do we ruin completely the show?

Use anything, but the show should to be ruined with only one season
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>>25965820
>>25965851
Literally anyone is a better character than Princess Twilight

even Spike
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>>25968658
Literally keep it going the way it is.
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>>25968658
Make one of the mane 6 a princess, then backpedal due to fan backlash

oh wait
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>>25968658

Steven universe creators as story editor with the comic staff as writer
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>>25968658

The show is already ruined since the season 2
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>>25968658
>sjw moraliry
>edgy the edge

or
>G3.5 without memebait
or ,you know,just kill everyone.
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>>25968658
By confirming bronies are the most deplorable shit eaters in the world.
Simply make Mike Vogel break the 4th wall and criticize the show himself for all the sabotage and shit writing he has caused himself.
"Lesson Zero, Luna Eclipsed, Discord?" How the fuck can you freaks enjoy this autistic anti-fun shit.
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>>25968835
If you don't like LZ, LE, and RoH, what the fuck episodes DO you like? Those are legit some of the best the show has had. Not counting any other Discord episodes, of course.
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>>25968835
>Discord
>anti-fun
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>>25955381
Simple stop pandering to the shit brained autists that keep saying "X needs to happen." and let the writers make the episodes without any outside influence.
You know the thing that will never happen.
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>>25968658
Put a new female corporate executive on board Hasbro with no experience in the role because it's the equal and hip thing to do.

Get her to do a complete writer and staff change and make a new team from all the other shit cartoon shows. Soulless guys and gals who are in it just for a paycheck. Have them try and fail to reboot the series. Make the show so insultingly bad and low budget that parents play it for their two years olds just to shut them up before walking away not raising their own damn kids.

>>25968794
>G3.5 without memebait
I like the way you think.
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>>25968849
>>25968862
Shit-taste ponyfags confirmed. Who let Snips and Snails on 4chan again? I thought this was an 18+ site.
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>>25955381
More mythical creatures, also bring back the diamond dogs.
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>>25969760
Eww no. Diamond dogs are basically goblin dogs. Goblins are pathetic, disgusting, generic and boring dnd sub-class monsters which should have been removed long time ago.
Goblin culture is similar to nigger/indian culture where shit n piss tastes good and king crab is considered garbage.

Undead are the superior minion-type monsters.
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>>25969858
You wanna run that by me again you little cock mongler?
Goblins are best minions, they treat your word like law and are entertaining to boot, plus unlike those rotting fucks a goblin can still think without you needing to guide its every step. And they don't fall apart at the slightest beating either.
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>>25955511
I hope you're joking
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>>25955475
>But Anon, we already do that!
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>>25955381
we cant
is more fucked up than the simpsons
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>>25968502
You aren't alone.
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>>25969438
I'd bet money that one of your favorite episodes is 'Twilight is right about everything now that she's a princess'.

Sorry, I meant 'Amending Fences'.
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>>25955381
Retcon everything after Season 2. For good measure, make Cadance a unicorn per the original design, and restrict alicorns to being the no-longer-present Pantheon, with Celestia and Luna being the last children of the old gods of the world.

Realistic answer:
Can we fix it / No it's fucked
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>>25957372
This desu
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>>25970348
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>>25970273
If you fucked a dog right now then that would be considered zoophillia from the dog's perspective.

Amending Fences should have ended with that ugly disgusting brony self-insert apoligizing to Twilight and also sucking her dick and trying to make it up to the princess. Twilight had no business and reason to feel apologetic towards a mental sicko autist who never put effort and humility into deserving things. Just like Starlight Glimmer.

It's disgusting how such low-intelligence bronies like you can exist in this world.
Throughout season 4 and 5 Twilight has been nothing but an insecure and apoligizing doormat. You could put Fluttershy in twilight's princess role and it would be the same character.

Yet somehow you ass-backwards autists have the gall to call her "self-righteous, attentionwhoring, undeserving, pretentious, superiority issues" and other completely unfunded and ironic assertions from the depths of your autistic rectums. Your anal canals must be really twisted for such mental gymnastic bullshit turds to come out of it.
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>>25955381
Murder the autism within it. A little girls show is no place for obnoxious internet humour.

Now a harder question would be: How do we improve season 1?

I say by giving the cutie marks to the crusaders in Show Stoppers.
Removing Owls that Ends Well.
Spend more time on fixing Pinkie's insecurities and paranoia in Party of One.
Giving a new backstory 3parter to the ponies in which Rainbow Dash isn't a sonic boom mary sue, and it doesn't read like Scootaloo's fanfiction. Seriously making scoots a fangirl was the dumbest shit.
Modify Call of the Cutie to be less boring. Remove Diamond Tiara from the premises with no "hurr durr I'm so sorry" bullshit.
Tell Rarity that her dresses suck horse cocks in Suited for Success.
Remove 2 Fluttershy episodes.
Remove 1 Rarity episode.
Add 1 extra episode for Rainbow Dash and Applejack.
Modify Feeling Pinkie Keen by making Twilight turn Pinkie Pie into a frog. The moral is: don't be an annoying little shit and people won't punish you.
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>>25971190
>Removing Owls that Ends Well
Remind me what the big problem is with this episode. Way I recall, Spike tries to frame a bird for murder and there's a badass green dragon in the Everfree Forest. Preddy gud ep.
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>>25971190
Also, your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
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>>25971282
Fuck that bird, man. Fuck it to hell.
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>>25968502
Yep. I miss the cool mythology.
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>>25971282
The owl. Just the owl. Nothing but the owl. That particular owl. Fuck that owl.
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>>25968762

if they put in a reference to RPG world i would *just die*
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>>25971282
Owls were suppose to be cool, mysterious and full of wisdom.
Instead we get glue-eating mcgees owl making Spike's life a shit. "oh hey I'm just here, hanging out for no reason.. making you look bad, eating all the food at your parties... I suck turtle cock, a lot". The owl has no personality aside from that one little fat bastard who steals your waifu and sucks the life out of the party like a leech.
"Oh vey I can do everything Spike can, but better"
"Oh hey for some reason I'm not asleep during the day"
"Oh hey hey I'm attacking this 50ft tall dragon and not getting roasted like I should"
That fucking "owl" is an annoying mary sue who gets forcefully good at everything. In reality his personality would dictate that he's a stupid fuck up who everyone hates and would die from a tumor due to how stupid and autistic that bird behaves.
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"Owl-licious" is the most retarded and failed reference name I have ever heard. I understand Faust wanted to name it in reference to "Aloysius" but she utterly failed at it.
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That owl disappointed my owl kind.
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>>25971510
First time in years I've seen someone explain why the episode is bad. I hate Owlowicious in general because they seriously try to make him Spike's foil and it's kind do weird and not fitting.

But what you said makes sense.
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>>25955966
>Seasons 4 and 5
>not God-tier
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>>25968711
>adding a pair of wings suddenly kills Twilight as a character
This is how retarded you sound.
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>>Move show to adult swim, make it a porno done
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>>25971326
>>25971344
>>25971510
Really? The owl triggers you guys that much?

God damn, and I thought I had autism.
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