Thoughts on the previous episode and the current season in general?
>>25428409
Previous episode was pretty awesome.
Outside of some lingering oddness on the M6 being friends with Discord, characterizations and interactions were on point, ESPECIALLY Spike, who was practically S1-tier in that episode.
I'm looking forward to seeing how the rest of the season twists shit up, especially with the return of Starlight.
>>25428435
NO! That's episode sucks! A double F-minus!
>>25428409
Previous episode: Nothing Special, Writer a shit.
The season as a whole: pretty damn great.
>>25428409
The previous episode wasn't great, but I actually enjoyed itespecially the BTTF reference.
The current season is also pretty good.
The new season brings me joy. And boners.
>>25428409
It was meh tbf hom, i liked how Twilight and Spike were written, the moral was kinda of there, but the episode shit itself towards the end, overral a 7/10 because i didn't hated it, but its far from a personal favorite
As for the season, pretty good, only a few bad episodes but its being better than seasons 3 and 4 already, i am curious about what is going to happen in the finale
I didn't like the last episode, but I think it's because the writer can't write very well.
>>25428409
Loved the last episode and think that the season is at least as good as season 1. It may even be on the level of the sacred second season!
>inb4 hasdrone
>>25428409
Previous episode was awkward at several points, but it handled Twilight and Spike really well and had some foreshadowing, so I enjoyed it.
The season as a whole is great- been a hell of a ride, especially compared to the much more predictable one before it. I'm just hoping the finale lives up to the hype it's building.
>>25428409
>Current season
Enjoying it better than the previous
>Previous episode
Mixed bag. Good moral and end, bad execution.
>>25428409
Previous episode was meh. Good scenes here and there but the meat of the plot fell flat for me. Current season though is top-tier though. More good episodes than mediocre, and some of the best episodes I've ever enjoyed this whole show.
>>25428409
Good things
+Discord is finally in good term with Mane6 and can act as our self insertion to fuck all of them at the same time
+Spike wasn't a moron
Bad things
-everything else
>>25428409
Very entertaining, I liked it.
This season is starting to be my favorite in the series.
>>25428409
Season has been great so far, but last episode was the most divisive in a long time. Some people loved it, some hated it.
>>25428409
Last episode for me personally was a 7/10. So if summarised in plus and minus points:
+ Pretty good moral
+ Twilight was in character, showed a good display of flaws and there was character development
+ Excellently written Spike; no Spike abuse for a change
+ Tons of new facial expressions and tweaked animation (just look at Discord’s bouncy mane and Zecora’s revamped home)
+ Fun references
± The humor was a hit and miss
- Identifying with Twilight too well, creating a uncomfortable feeling while the episode should be entertaining in the first place
- Predictable and dull story
- Pacing was a little off
- Some inconsistencies (e.g. why does Twilight have a complete distrust for Discord again, while we've the whole key-thing happen in the S4 finale?)
As for the whole of S5, I really like this season. Love the community-esque feeling about it and how every episode seem more connected to one another than ever before. Even the 'worst' episodes this season aren't as aggravating to me as in any other season before. Still a few more episodes to go, but S5 is likely going to be my new favourite season.
>>25428409
>previous
not so good. I probably won't ever think about it except for when I'm re-watching it.
In general, it's my favorite season, especially for the abundance of and quality care for Apple Bloom.
>>25430902
Discord will be back to evil in Season 6 and he's still evil.
>>25428409
Last ep was very confusing, I will rate it a 4, heres why
+ Spike well written
+ Discord is now friends with all the mane 6, for real
+ Maybe more "Twilight has faults" eps in the future
- Confusing moral
- More references
- Fluttercord
- I felt kinda sad for Twilight, its obvious more fans did too
tl;dr the episode was BAD
s5 has been a bit better than s4, but many episodes has been bad, like this one
Too many references and CMC episodes are not helping
>>25428409
I liked the last episode a lot more when I caught that Twilight gave Discord that small orange showing that they made up and it was all in good fun at the end. Starlight showing up was a fun mind screw as well.
This season has been really entertaining for me. Unless something awful happens these next three weeks it may turn out to be my new favorite.
>>25432005
>Fluttercord
>"-"
>not "+"
complete plebeian
>>25428409
Previous episode was a little bit shitty. Spike and Twilight's characterisation was great, but the episode was quite boring.
This season is fucking great. If they don't fuck everything up in the finale, this season would be better than S2 in my opinion.
>>25431936
discord is even not evil
is more a douchebag
>>25432005
>and cmc episodes are not helping
it was a meh "slice of life" episode. Not good but not terribly bad, except for the ending where instead of letting Twilight learn about how friends do frenship during your absense too, they turned everything against Discord in the last minute and used a shitty "everyone laughs ending". Also many characters didn't act right, it almost looked like Discord casted a spell on them or something (like twilight suggested). It was weird.
The references were ok, but maybe too many. For one episode, one reference is enough. The Bob Ross thing made me laugh, but they used it again for second time it was alreaedy too much. Also, Back to the Future reference which was kind of well timed too because October 21, 2015 was just a few weeks ago.
Other than that, so far S5 has been very good in my opinion. I really like it.
>>25428835
>but the episode shit itself towards the end
I thought the moral was two fold. The first being obvious. And the second one is if you're going the high road, don't enjoy being a dick to make your point. Discord wanted to have his kek and enjoy it too. You can't do that in magical pony land without being called bullshit on it.
That was actually the best part imho family
>>25428409
The current season is really good. Probably my second favorite so far. The previous episode, however, I just couldn't bring myself to like. The humor was all either cringe or references. References should never take up that much of the humor, because if you don't get the references, the episode is just awkward and unfunny, and the cringe certainly didn't help.
>>25428409
last episode was a meh episode in an otherwise really darn good season.
what's making it work is the progression the characters are going through.the show's really become something more than it originally was meant to be.
It's nice to see that most people seem to like season 5 so far. What with the constant doomposting and complaining about everything, it seemed like most people hated it. At least I'm not the only one who thinks it's one of the best seasons we've had.
>>25430013
I wouldn't say Neal Desadu is a bad writer. It's just that he doesn't seem to grasp at how the characters should communicate since he came from Johnny Test and Fish Hooks which were non sequitur.
>>25435511
Maybe not necessarily a 'bad' writer, but certainly not a good fit for the show. In an almost completely character-driven show, when a writer can't do the characters or their interactions very well, he's going to keep writing bad episode after bad episode.
>>25428409
Weak. I would say that thy could do better, but I would be lying.
>>25435419
Hopefully with /trash/ most of the fans of the fandom have left, although I'm not sure why they were here to begin with when other sites have all the pony porn they could ever need.
Im gettin real fuckin tired of hearing
>[but] im the princess of friendship
>im a princess!
>but im princess purpleperfect how could i not know the answer to something
>im the shiny new fourth princess
It wad bad enough when she gained the title but didnt really use it, they're really pushing it this season for some reason
Otherwise s5's been great
>>25435770
Yeah. I don't think he understands how this series works.
S5 has had good episodes and shit episodes. It's not a very consistent season and so far it's worse than S4.
S2 > S1 = S4 > S5 > S3
>>25437215
Name the shit episodes. I can think of two that come to mind.
>>25437135
Is basically on her theme slogans describing her character
Twilight
>I'm a Princess of Friendship
Fluttersy
>I'm scared of X
Rarity
>Dresses and fashion
Pinkie
>parties and fun
Aj
>family and appuls
Dash
>wonderbols and gotta be fast
Discord
>Im reformed
Spike
>insert gag
>>25437332
Castle Sweet Castle
Bloom and Gloom
Slice of Life
Princess Spike
Party Pooped
Canterlot Boutique
Made in Manehattan
Crusaders of the Lost Mark (good episode, becomes shit at the end)
The One Where Pinkie Knows
What about Discord
>>25437381
Meh, was more just mediocre.
Thought it really helped understand AB myself.
Agreed. Fuck Dusedau.
Disagree. I liked it and thought it helped Pinkies character.
Disagree again. Gave depth to Rarity.
Their marks fit them perfectly and I expected it for seasons. If their talents actually were the "obvious" they would have gotten them S1.
It was boring, but it was a setup episode.
Again, Fuck Dusedau.
Only Princess Spike and What About Discord were truly shit this season.
>>25437381
>Bloom and Gloom
Someone's retarded.
Oh, I skipped Slice of Life in my list. I thought it was fun and it actually had a nice moral.
>>25437381
>Castle Sweet Castle
Not bad, just kind of a filler episode.
>Bloom and Gloom
Bullshit.
>Slice of Life
I don't really get why people hate this. I thought it was pretty decent, all things considered.
>Princess Spike
Fair enough
>Party Pooped
I don't get the hate for this one either, really. I thought it was really funny and had a decent enough plot.
>Canterlot Boutique
I thought this was really pretty good, better than Rarity Investigates, at least.
>Made in Manehattan
This one was kind of filler as well, but it was really nice to see Coco again. By no means a bad episode.
>Crusaders of the Lost Mark (good episode, becomes shit at the end)
So you're dumb enough to let 30 seconds ruin an otherwise solid episode?
>The One Where Pinkie Knows
Another filler, not really bad. Had funny moments.
>What about Discord
Fair enough once more
So that's two, and then throw in Tanks for the Memories, and that's still only like 3 really bad episodes so far. Out of 23 episodes, that's pretty good. Even Season 2 had more by this point.
>>25437589
>Another filler, not really bad. Had funny moments.
The reason why this episode is shit is because how Pinkie acts.
>S1 has her bitching at Twilight about how telling other ponies' secrets is bad
>suddenly she's freaking out about it and needs to tell someone a secret
this season is shit because spike isn't dead yet.
>>25437645
Except it was different because she didn't make a Pinkie Promise. If she had the whole ordeal would have been easier on her because of her value for the promise.
If Neal Dusedau wasn't hired then the season would have been perfect.
>>25437645
A baby is a pretty exciting thing. A secret like that can be really hard to not tell somebody. And she was trying as hard as she could to not tell anyone. In my opinion, it was in line with her character, if a little over the top.
>>25437645
You assume what just because Pinkie "talk the talk" in the past in one situation, she should not freak out while "walk the walk" in absolutely another situation. Can you see where mistake in this logic?
>>25432506
The dougebag Discord will be dead in Season 6.
>>25437135
She's a princess no more in the future.
>>25437215
Meh.
>>25437371
Twilight Sparkle will be no longer a princess of friendship in the future, she'll quit. Discord will back to be a bad guy and tried to turn Twilight Sparkle and Fluttershy to the dark side in Season 6.
>>25437381
Make New Friends But Keep Discord and What About Discord? is the most shit episodes!
>>25437215
You meant S2 >= S5 > S4 > S1 > S3. Easy mistake to make, I suppose.
Well a new day has dawned.
What did you guys think of the recently aired episode, also known as 'Team Fortress with Hillbillies"?
>>25438622
It was much better than last week's. Funny, but kind of overdone. I'd say 7 or 8/10.
>>25438622
Possibly the most boring episode of the series. The plot was predictable as hell, the setting and characters were bland, and the jokes were never worth more than half a chuckle. I'm pretty sure this is the first time I've gone through an entire episode without a single genuine smile.
I just finished the episode a few minutes ago, so >>25438720 is the only opinion I've seen so far. I'd be interested to see a more in-depth positive opinion of it, since I'm having trouble coming up with anything myself.
>>25439218
I'll do my best. The biggest problem with the episode is definitely the fact that it is so predictable. This plot has been done again and again on other shows. So I'd imagine the biggest deciding factor in whether or not someone likes it is how much that bothers them. This was definitely not the best I've seen this plot done, not even close. However, I've always really liked the plotline a lot, so that immediately put it way ahead of episodes like Simple Ways in my personal enjoyment. The writers didn't really do much of anything with the plot, there weren't a whole lot of good jokes, and the new characters were, admittedly, pretty boring, so I can see why people would dislike it. And it's not like certain other episodes I like; I can't actually give reasons I like it. All I can really say is that I had fun watching it, and I'll probably be watching it again sometime soon.
After typing this, I realise that it isn't really a positive opinion, since most of it is criticism. But I took the time to type it all out, so I'll be damned if I'm just gonna delete it.
>>25439352
Even if you can't give a good critique, it's a fair enough opinion. It seems like the episode is more of a guilty pleasure for you, which I can't argue against. This is the kind of episode that becomes a guilty pleasure most often; the writing is nothing special, but it has one thing that just so happens to cater to your tastes.
That being said, there were some objective problems with it. The main problem, which I'm surprised I forgot to mention in my first post, was the dialogue. It felt like the writer just wrote the first thing that came to mind for every single line. I'm the slowest writer I've ever met, and I could've written this episode's dialogue in fifteen minutes.
>>25439352
Well, this mirrors my opinion except that I don't like these kinds of stories so I didn't enjoy the episode much at all. It was cool to see Twilight using her magic a lot and I liked that the episode seemed to be calling out its own cliches with her checklist, but it never really broke away from those cliches. It ran the formula, turned in the standard lesson, and ended (with a minor interesting note about what might happen now that all six ponies have been sent out by the map) It was reminiscent of season 1, but not in a good way.
As much as I love season 5 so far, it has had some weak points. I think I disliked this episode because it was the first one of the season that didn't have any strong points to make up for that.
Meh, I thought that this episode was better than Made in Manehattan if nothing else.
>>25438622
It had good humor and great character interaction that stood true to who Twilight and Fluttershy are.
That is more than most post-S3 episodes bother doing, so I had good fun.
>>25439754
I can't say the same. Made in Manehattan had some nice scenery, it focused on the main characters and Coco Pommel rather than a collection of stereotypical hillbillies, and I wasn't able to predict the ending five minutes into the episode. Don't get me wrong, it was weak, but it wasn't "the target audience would have written a less recycled script" weak.
>>25439218
I really enjoyed the episode and think it's an 8/10
For the most part, I just had a good time. Twilight was being a lot like her old unicorn self, Fluttershy was spot on and actually served an important role, and the families didn't just stop feuding from learning the history by itself. They stopped due to the animals they learned they were hurting. That's pretty nice to me.
As for the characterization of the families, I actually like that they weren't all given super crazy unique personalities. Most of their individualness was shown through the different ways they handled themselves physically, and it was cool to see a new female physique that's closer to Big Mac's body type.
Also, I liked the spy thing because it reminded me of episode 2 of MLP where Rainbow Dash accuses Twilight of being a spy, and the ponies looking over the gate of the fort was a lot like Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
Only negative thing I can really think of is that they're really pushing the whole "Twilight's fucking obsessed with books" angle. The writers are aware too, since in The One Where Pinkie Knows, ponk straight up calls Twilight out with her "We get it! You like books!" screech. I'm guessing Hasbro execs have been pressuring them to add more books, and so they really added more books.
>>25438622
I enjoyed it a lot more than I did last week's episode
Flutters and Twi were written pretty well, and I lost my shit whenever Flutters introduced herself.
>and I'm here too
The episode on its own was predictable as hell, but I don't really mind that as long as it does in an enjoyable way, which I thought it did.
The whole episode was silly as fuck, from the hillbillies, to that one tortoise scene when Fluttershy straight up threw it in the bush.
It was a super fun episode, 7.5/10.
And I have no idea why, but Twilight has grown on me this season. I never particularly liked her, but the past 2 episodes have been making me like her more and more.
>>25439725
Season 5 hasn't had any straight-up bad episodes imo, but it has had quite a few boring ones. Appleoosa's Most Wanted, Made in Manehatten, Brotherhooves Social,Crusaders of the Lost Mark, and now this one.
>>25439811
Twilight's personality was pretty spot on, especially during the earlier scenes. I was bored out of my skull by most of the episode but at least it's got that going for it.
>>25439826
This guy's got a point about Fluttershy's introductions too. I guess it wasn't that horrible. It just felt like a letdown after the rest of the season.Thanks for helping me to feel less down about it, anons.
>>25439845
I'd say both of Dusedau's episodes were bad and the rest at worst were boring.
>>25439811
>I'm guessing Hasbro execs have been pressuring them to add more books, and so they really added more books.
Think about it, Anon. Six years ago they would have been pressuring them to add dresses and stuff that made her look like an idiot.
>>25439845
>Crusaders of the Lost Mark
>>25439845
I thought Tanks for the Memories was a straight up bad episode, as were Princess Spike and What About Discord. Still puts it way ahead of most of the seasons we've had; the only one rivaling this one for my favourite is season 2.
>>25439809
All of the hillbillies were more fun than Coco Pommel though, COCO is a fucking disgrace of utterly blandness, she was only brought back because bronies are incredibly easy to please.
>>25439921
You need to work on your English. And your anger management.
>>25428409
Twilight has had it rough the entire season
>>25439902
I can see why one wouldn't like those episodes, but for me the good outweighed the bad with all of them. The good outweighed the boringness in Appleoosa's Most Wanted and Made in Manhatten too, but they still don't sit quite right with me.
>>25439881Please remind me why people like it.
>>25439921
At least Coco is cute. The hicks in this one are all stubborn, probably highly ignorant assholes. And they look pretty disgusting imho
>>25439921
Agreed, Coco is easily one of the worst characters, it's hard to describe her beyond "generally kind of good", but it's not her fault she's shit, it's the writers that fucked up by bringing her back and not bothering with making her a worthwhile presence and she's far from the only flaw in her crappy episode.
>>25428409
Best season tbqh family
>>25439974Some good songs and the reformation of Diamond Tiara, probably. That and the fact that it is basically a much better paced and better written MMC.
>>25439984
You can remove the "probably", they're ignorant for sure. They didn't know about Twilight, they didn't bother keeping track of any reasons for their feud, and they barely understood basic survival skills.
>>25440018
To be fair neither did fucking Tirek know about Twilight. Or Starlight Glimmer.
>>25440028
True, but there are reasons those two might have been isolating themselves, especially in Starlight's case. The Hooffields and Mccolts were just inbred morons.
>>25440003
There were a couple good-but-not-great songs, and the others were disgustingly generic. Not much of a step up from MMC in that department. Also, Diamond's five minute reformation was rushed and unengaging. Shoving such an important character development, the end of a five season long story arc, and six songs into a single episode completely fucked up the pacing.
The writing I might give you, but the pacing was just as bad if not worse than MMC.In any case, I like MMC more.I needed to get than off my chest.pls no bully
>>25440049
Bad writing is the reason in Tirek's case atleast.
>>25437135
In S3 Twilight suddenly turned into a princess without any sign of it happening before. She was clueless about why it was her "destiny" to be a princess.
S4 returns to that point a explores Twilight being confused with her new (or should we say lack) role as a princess. She had the box to study and to be excited about. In the end of S4 she finally collapses and start questioning again what is her fucking destiny.
In S4 end and S5 beginning Twilight finally "discovers" her role as a princess and she's eager to finally do something with it. That's why she was pretty disappointed the map didn't call her so many times until today's episode, where she was completely excited about it. But she couldn't understand what was wrong with the 2 families and Fluttershy saved the day.
I'm willing to bet that Twilight not being able to solve a friendship problem and and her frustration in being a princess will play a major role in the finale.
I just want to go there and comfort Twilight.
>>25440145
The pacing isn't good by any means. But in MMC, it really felt more like they wrote a 20 minute episode, then went back in, cut out a bunch of shit, and tacked on a dumb ending. It didn't seem like one episode, it seemed like two different short episodes glued together. In CotLM, it (at least to me) felt like a single unit, like the plot was actually building toward something. Of course, that all depends on how you take the episode, so I can see why people would hate it.
>>25440157
I don't think that's true. He was in Cerberus; it's reasonable he might not have gotten the memo. Hell, most of the general public didn't even know.
>>25437215
>S2 > S1 = S4 > S5 > S3
Fuck this shit, here's the real thing:
S5 > S2 > S1 > S4 > S3 >>>>>> EqG movies
>>25440823
I think you meant to say he was in Tartarus. If he'd been in Cerberus, the show wouldn't be rated TV-Y anymore. And anyway, Tirek wasn't in Tartarus by the time Twilight ascended. I'm guessing he missed it because he was hiding out somewhere after escaping.
>>25440894
Shit I got a lot wrong. I need to go watch that episode again, I guess. And brush up on my mythology.
>>25428409
Bad
>>25428409
-The last Discord episode wasn't that great but not bad either. The episode from today was really good and I like it a lot.
-The current season in general is fucking awesome and I'm really loving it. It's cute, fun, emotional, funny, interesting, and of course well-animated and well-written overall (with the exception of a few eps).
This season is definitely one of the better seasons of the series and I'm quite impressed by it.
>>25439826
What you're describing about Twilight, I found new love for Fluttershy this episode. Besides Twilight being adorkable, Fluttershy really made me laugh during this episode, mostly when she introduced herself like you said.
>>25442376
Fuck off shill. You can't even think clear. Your entire brain is just a one big Hasbro logo.
>>25442594
I don't think I like you very much.
>>25442594
Someone's mad.
Well, this is the only season that forced me to have a 3rd favorite pony.
>>25442777
Check'd, and trips confirm anon's mad.
>>25430707
9/10 what you said
>>25442594
Trying this hard to ruin a comfy thread.
>>25438622
It was OKAY, great Twilight, Meh Fluttershy who got totally overshadowed.
>>25442777
Yes, i'm mad at the shills slurping on Hasbro cock even when they produce shitty episodes.
Is like Star Wars fanboys praising Lucas for JarJar just because he is a character in their franchise. I just want those people to die slowly and painfully. It can't be such a huge request.
>>25443179
Anon pls, you're being too edgy
Have a cute horse to calm down
>>25443179
Yeah Anon, I can really see how you think that all those episodes were shitty through all the great arguments you make to support your point. After seeing you explain your opinions about each episode, I'm definitely willing to readjust my opinion on them.Give legitimate arguments or get the fuck out.
>>25443179
>I just want those people to die slowly and painfully
Worry not, we're all dying slowly and painfully.
Season 5 has been pretty lousy so far. There's no real standout episodes, just a lot of "ehhhhhhh."
I had issues with season 4 as a season, that is the overarching storyline was lame and their avoidance of addressing Twilights new status (outside the premiere and finale) was dumb and frustrating, but taken episode by episode, it produced at lot of strong entries. The current season...not so much.
I haven't even seen the last couple of episodes because I haven't mustered up the interest to track them down.
>>25431178
Basically this.
>>25440823
My fucking ass he wouldn't get the demo, if he knew about Cadance, another Princess who only showed up long after he was in prison, and he's been out in the wild since seaosn 2, he SHOULD'VE heard about the giant coronation event that had all ponies in the same place.
And that is not to mention Celestia's retarded ass who knows Discord is helping Tirek but thinks that he won't know about Twilight anyway.
It's bad writing, it needs people to bend over to explain it so that characters don't end up looking brain dead, and it hurts an already weak finale so that it goes from boring to baffling.
>>25439984
What are you talking about? The mares are umf.
And some stallions too.
