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Orgone explains nothing and Alpha 3 10th anniversary celebration when Edition

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>>14107060

If you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help:
http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars

Current status of the games availability in the English language as of the end of August 2014:
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If you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artists
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Moon Dwellers Preview PV English Sub:
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>>14112105
I thought you guys were joking about Zwauth having nothing but Sword, Sworder and Swordest
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>>14112113
didn't you watch the OVA? It and Sirbine are more sword based than Escaflowne.
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>>14112113
welcome to Aura Battler
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>>14112116
Between what I hear of Compact 3 and SRC Dungeon here, I'd like to see an entry in SRW use Escaflowne and do it better, like what it's done for Sirbine recently. (Or what it did for Galient and Gorg if you compare them to their SRC counterparts)
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>>14112116
I haven't watched anything related to Dunbine yet
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Is it true that Dunbine wasn't originally supposed to have mecha in it?
Would explain why Byston Well is so horse and swordy
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>>14112130
you're missing out
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>>14112142
Alright fine I'll go and watch Garzey's Wing
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>>14112140
Magic crystal dragons.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRBlX-7qvzU
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When are they going to speed up the news for OGMD?
Seems like forever since the last PV
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>>14112163
Next week.
On game magazines.
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>>14112163
Never ever. They are planning a worldwide release and they STILL haven't caught up with the japanese PVs.
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>>14112163
at least I got some news on a game I am interesting in.

a Neptuina game that has the setting of that 4GoddessOnline MMO and works like .hack (aka a single player RPG that mimics an online game)
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>>14112178
Why not just play a fucking MMO
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>>14112179
If there's anything the modern MMO crowd hates, it's interacting with people
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>>14112179
>Why not just play a fucking MMO

because:
1. subscription fees
2. No mic
3. I don't have to deal with dicks who kick when you don't have a very, very, very, very, very, specific set-up
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>>14112116
Escaflowne can transform, and in that one nightmare sequence it had shoulder lasers.

Zwauth and Sirbine have other weapons in side material and you can see those claw shot things on Sirbine, but they literally never use anything in Tales of Neo Byston Well other than SWORD SWORD SWORD SWORD.
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>>14112178
All this game news, and I'm still here waiting to see something on G Generation Genesis.

Seriously, MD got announced, a teaser, and a first PV since the initial announcement of G Gen, and all's silent on the Gundam front. Heck, that one's apparently getting an English release like MD is, too, so I heard.
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>>14112179
Because MMOs don't have Lady Vert
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April 20th next week is the SRW 25th anniversary, hoping for new PV, Famitsu scans etc for OGMD
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>no Astranagant in OG
>Disastranagant won't show up

What went wrong? They even hinted those mech in the anime
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>>14112212
I'm not sure if we'll get anything major, since they're having that event on June 4th already.
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>>14112219
Ing didn't gather the factors
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It seems like several people here started BX recently. I'm enjoying it so far, but since it's Super Post-Plot Wars, I've been thinking about a hypothetical prequel.

Super Robot Wars AX
Nintendo 3DS

>Aura Battler Dunbine
>Gear Fighter Dendoh
>King of Braves GaoGaiGar
>SD Gundam Gaiden
>Mobile Suit Gundam 00
>Mobile Suit Gundam Char’s Counterattack
>Mobile Suit Gundam Age (Asem Chapter)
>Macross Plus
>Macross Frontier
>Macross 30
>Shin Getter Robo vs. Neo Getter Robo
>Mazinkaiser SKL
>Aldnoah.Zero*

Can you think of anything else that would fit?
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>>14112219
I just hope at least the music gets in. Another Time Diver og remix better not fail at the wicked guitar.

Speaking of music, what are you listening ATM?

Why Mecha manage to get the board letter m instead of Music?
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>>14112239
>Speaking of music, what are you listening ATM?
Touhou metal. Kairo, Foreground Eclipse, Demetori, Crow's Claw, some other stuff I've got in my YT history.
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>>14112239
>Why Mecha manage to get the board letter m instead of Music?
We were here first, probably.
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>>14112239
Imagine if music gets /m/

we will probably be /mec/ or something
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>>14112239
JAM Project
SRW BGMs
random OPs
assorted idolshit
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>>14112238
Passage of time in between those series is too great for it to work as a prequel.
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>>14112239
>Speaking of music, what are you listening ATM?

GIRIGIRI AI

damn you /sgg/ for giving me the MP3 link.

I also have a MP3 player I use at work on breaks and lunch, does not have GIRIGIRI AI in it.
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>>14112266
I wish I could actually line up all the songs on my phone like that, then again the list would be all sorts of fucking huge.
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>>14112253
Write it off with Byston Well/Fold shenanigans. Plus, this would hardly be the first time the series had an inconsistent time skip.
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>>14112273
you can't tell but it's three cropped images painted together
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>>14112122
The 1-3 move was P in Compact 3, so it wasn't really 1-Range Man in that game.
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>>14112282
>1-Range Man in that game

Nah, that was Sirbine
Again
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>>14112249
Pretty much the same for me.
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Anyone know what those 2 skill parts are directly above Attacker in UX? Something +5 and +Lv1
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>>14111722
I wouldn't say that it goes completely downhill, but yeah, it's certainly not as good, and the use of stock footage increased by loads.

I would say that it picks up when E̶x̶k̶a̶i̶s̶e̶r̶/Zero joins the cast, but that's some 6-7 episodes later
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>>14112299
Or should I say "joins the fight", Zero actually shows up in on episode `12.

Also, more trivia, now that I have the excuse to talk about Dendoh
All of Hokuto's Data Weapons are in this picture, and this picture appeared on episode 3
Dendoh uses two Final Attacks in a row while fighting Ragou
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>>14112103
new thread new ttgl
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>>14112299
>Zero

He's one of my main problems, though. Altair stops being a villain, and his replacement is a guy who's entire personality is "dick" and who's entire power sheet is "doesn't fucking die", and that's a terrible blend.

I don't think the show entirely goes south either, but it's got some definite issues.
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So, I am just getting into SRW and I started with Original Generation, but I am kinda lost. What do I invest my PP into, besides the obvious cheese like SP Regenerate?
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>>14112400
Attacker, gun/in fighting
Hit & away for your snipers
More SP for your units with good support spirits
Guard for your tanks, that one skill that raises evasion at 130 whose name I forgot for your reals
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>>14112410
Do you even have enough open skill slots for that? OG1 and 2 on GBA won't respect your freedumbs.
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>>14112410
Okay, I already have those covered. But what else after I already filled my skill slots?
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>>14112400
support attack
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>>14112400
Attacker is more important than SP Regen unless you're spamming spirits like there's no tomorrow

Mental Focus might be preferable over SP Regen if they have an expensive spirit set (Kusuha, Tasuku, etc)
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>>14112421
If you managed to do that to a character in OG1 before NG+ then you've obviously funneled a ton of kills into them, so Terrain Ranks > Main attack stat > whatever
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>>14112430
Do I make all Terrain Ranks S, or just the ones that I am more likely to encounter?
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>>14112410
>Guard for your tanks, that one skill that raises evasion at 130 whose name I forgot for your reals
Predict is pretty garbage.

>>14112400
Attacker, SP Regen, EN Save, Guard, Focus, Hit & Away are all good depending on the pilot's needs. Infight/Gunfight too. Support can be handy on people like Latooni or Excellen.

OG2 gives you way more skills to screw around with, OG1 is pretty limited.
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>>14112435
The way terrain ranks work is say your Pilot has an A in Land but their mech has an S on Land, their overall rank will be S so you don't need to touch it on the pilot. A+S=S, or S+A=S

So yeah just get their relevant terrain ranks to S. Don't bother with Water on anyone, don't bother with Land on people who always fly, etc.
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>>14112400
SP Regen and Attacker is all you need for OG1.
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>>14112443
>Don't bother with Water on anyone
Not even in the ship captains who spend most of their time underwater?
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>>14112454
>Ship captains
>In OG1
>Even getting enough PP to fill their skills, nevermind getting enough to bother putting into terrain ranks
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>>14112462
And this is why I love OGs' NG+ PP communism.
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Hey, question about UX. Is there anyone who gets stats as they gain Will, or anything else that would make Will Limit Break more effective on them?

Since they're fairly limited parts, I like to give them to the people who need them most. If not, I'll just hand it to either ALLY OF JUSTICE LINEBARREL or MY SOUL IS ONE WITH JUSTICE GUNDAM
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>>14112472
>Is there anyone who gets stats as they gain Will
Nope.

>or anything else that would make Will Limit Break more effective on them?
I think Will+Attack/Defense works with WLB.
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>>14112477
>Will+Attack/Defense

But no one starts with that, do they? Those are the "you get one with a secret and never again" abilities, right?

speaking of which, god damnit, why do they have to make 1 use skill parts that you can accrue through NG+s? That's dumb.
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>>14112472
>>14112477
Don't the bonuses from the innovator and other 00 stuff go up with will?
I mean, it's just hitrate, evasion and quantize chance but...
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>>14112488
>can

Can't, rather. One time skills that you get one of per run are fine.
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>>14112491
>Don't the bonuses from the innovator and other 00 stuff go up with will?
Not sure if it's subject to 150->170 or not.
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>>14112494
when I beat UX there were some empty slots in the skill list.

DLC skill items?
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>>14112400
>>14112421
Just pump up Man/Evd on your real robot pilots, and Def on your super robot pilots and you will be fine.
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>>14112505
I know full well that there are skills in UX you get when you do a secret, and then never again. So that's some of them, at least.
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>>14112511
>Defensive stats
>Not attack stats
Pussy
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I've spent so many premium tickets to get this, and they finally give it with that one blue event voucher.
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>>14112516
Well, anon, at least you're now able to properly DAZZLE THE STAGE.
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>>14112525
You bet your sweet ass I am.
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>>14112513
Whatever, bro. I have fun never getting hit or taking more than scratch damage.
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>>14112516
When will Star Driver get a post plot story?
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>>14112545
>the first and last scenes in THE MOVIE will only ever be standalone with no context or pre-information
>we'll never find out what happened to all the people on the island
>we'll never find out the world's reaction to Samekh
>we'll never find out what the fuck happened to Kaphrat and its pilot
>or how Samekh turned into the little Samekh thing
>or what the fuck was up with the aliens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsEIu6-lciA
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>>14112564
Not only that they were all dressed all fancy and shit. NOPE NONE OF THAT SHIT. YOU DON'T GET TO SEE THIS.
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>>14112575
For a series about horny teenagers, BONES certain left everyone blueballed. Only to make ANOTHER mecha show with horny teenagers (and even have a hentai artist to do the character design) and give similar yet worse blueball feeling.
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>>14112592
I would actually love it if Banpresto did a original after Star Driver story for a SRW.
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>>14112597
There's a lot of interesting stories to tell that could fit that time, and since it'd be postscript, that leaves open the option of getting the three Adult Bank mechs, the three Filament mechs, and Yoddock at some point. (Well, maybe leave Daletos as an assist for Tzadict, it doesn't really have much to do on its own.)
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So it's interesting how this game tries to give the lesser units a chance to stay competitive by giving them more upgrade slots than the better units have. I don't know if this was common in older games, I haven't played anything pre-Alpha 1 other than this.

As you can see, Botune here has 15 upgrade slots. Dunbine has only 13. I don't have Billbine yet, but I know it has even less. The Japanese guide I'm following says that Botune's Hyper Aura Slash reaches a power of 5450 when maxed out, while Billbine's reaches a maximum of only 3900. So the weakest Aura Battler is potentially the strongest if you sink money into it. You need a ton of money though, I couldn't max the weapon on this thing even using all the money I have right now.

I think the RX-72-2 also gets this sort of benefit, but I don't have it because it's only for the Real protags.
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>>14112619
That was common back in those days, but it often caused a lot of really dumb balance issues in general. It's worse in the games that have V-Ups and their ilk though, V-Ups take what little balance is left and piss on it.
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>>14112516
I got one of those a while back.

Then I spent 50 on the thing today with all the SSRs in it for shits and giggles because I had the crystals lying around, figuring "I'm giving up on this POS, let's see how badly the game shits on me". So I get 2 SRs (one a dupe) and 8 rares.

Fuck the rates in this game so hard.
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>>14112671
I dropped 61 on the last event gacha and got nothing. Not even an event unit to use for said missions.
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>>14112680
I just wanted to see if I'd go out with a bang or a whimper. At least if I had 200-250 mythril laying around in FF Record Keeper and I wanted to burn it off before quitting I'd end up with a decent-sized pile of stuff due to the 12-13% 5* rate and rolling gasha.
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>>14112685
>and rolling gasha
In Japan. Global has no such thing, so 0/11 is a lot more common.
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>>14112671
It could be worse.
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>>14112688
Don't remind me, it's been 4 months since my last SSR in that game
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>>14112688
Is that Ko-Gil?
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>>14112692
>4
I'm jealous
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>>14112688
FGO is fucked-up. I mean really, really fucked up. I'm glad I only played it 4-5 days.
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>>14112688
>>14112692
>>14112705

Why did I spend 80 quartz trying to get Jeanne Alter
and why did i believe in the singles meme after getting Nightingale that way
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>>14112777
>80
Didn't Yakuza whale spend around 500 or so?
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Like Reiji Arisu (Namco x Capcom) come Endless Frontier and the Project x Zone duology, does Yang Long make Rom Stol (Machine Robo) references, given that all three are Kazuhiko Inoue?
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Help me
I'm actually starting to believe hatred without reason is the greatest power.

Why cooperate with people when I can just despise them all? I can't be hurt if I hate everyone. I'd be invincible.
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well this is interesting news; https://twitter.com/srw_xomg/status/719486594256805888/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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>>14112857
sloooooow
poooooooke

>>14112852
Disassemblyline pls
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>>14112883
I'll admit I haven't been in these threads for a while
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>>14112852
>I can't be hurt if I hate everyone.

I imagine it would be quite physically painful.
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Reminder Ingram will be revived in OGMD
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>>14112917
Nah see, you only get hurt if you value others. If I just treat others as objects to be used and nothing more then there's no pain.

Only by placing value on the lives of others am I hurt.
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>>14112852
Hatred is actually pretty exhausting to maintain. And it's bad for your blood pressure.

Put your effort into becoming ultimate chill instead.
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>>14112973
His headpiece looks like wacky ears in the thumbnail.
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>>14112917
you're a big guy
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>>14112984 (You) (You) (You)
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>>14112973
Just give us your turtle bearded man and we'll be chill
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>>14112400
All you need is Attacker and SP Regen for OG1, PP's kinda scarce anyway.

Though considering a dedicated Support Attacker (you probably don't need to get all the way to level 4) - especially if you want a power boost early since the first level is cheap compared to the two power skills.

Gun/Infight is actually not very good for attack damage in the original GBA games, you're better off just raising the associated stat directly - the only good thing about it is that at level 4/7, you get +1/2 Move/Range respectively. Don't bother raising past those breakpoints.
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>>14113080
>Gun/Infight is actually not very good for attack damage in the original GBA games, you're better off just raising the associated stat directly

Doesn't help that if someone gets levels in that skill, more levels take a different slot.
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>>14113126
Most people who have it naturally cap at 5 or 7 anyways.
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>>14112777
Destroy the Gacha

before the Gacha destroys you.

Cleanse the inner self of CHANCE.
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>>14113150
It's too late for us, old man.
The least we can do is save people from this hell.
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>>14112777
I spent 160 and got nothing

Should have singled
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>>14112694
Unfortunately it was a second Jeanne which leaves me with a total of one SSR
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>>14113150
I got jew'd out by the gacha the other day, yet I'm still playing. Then again I also cheat in X-O
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>>14113178
God damn, are you me?
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>>14112400
Support Attack, Attacker, and SP Regen are the only skills you need.
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>>14113185
I call my team Jeanne and the 4* sluts
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>>14113233
My brother.
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>>14113080
SP Regen is a waste for OG1. It's better to just learn how to manage your SP, since you don't have any of OG2's marathons.

Attacker, Support while it's still broken, E-Save/Mental as needed. Don't get In- or Gunfight in a first run.
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>>14113236
Muh man
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>>14113236
What's your friendcode
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>>14113163
>>14113181
THERE IS NO RANDOM

CARVE THE ROAD OF FATE WITH YOUR NAILS

DESTROY DISPARITY

VANDALIZE VARIABLES

WIPE THE GULF OF UNCERTAINTY OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
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>All this gacha talk
>mfw have enough currency to buy items for enhancend growth in Imperial SaGa
>Have 5* Katarina and James and 4* Roberto, Bai Mei Nyan and Fullbright waiting to get trained so I can finally become competitive in the Gods' Trials
>Can't shake the feeling that there's going to be a YGO collaboration for the movie
>Can't decide whether spending money now to become competitive and get better income or waiting for an eventual Kaibaboy 5*

This is hell I tell ya.
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>tfw he might be youngest playable pilot in the history of SRW (5 years old)
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>>14113344
Um, anon. You know Kantam is a TV show within his universe right? And that it isn't even piloted in it's own universe?
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Well, I finally did it.

As much as I like this stage, the characters you fight are kind of gimped outside of seishin casts and damage they do..
All Kira has is SEED, Counter and Blocking. You would think that they would give him Attack Again, seeing as getting 2 ZEUTH points is having Kira shoot down Shinn.
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>>14112516
What game even is this?
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I started watching fafner in the azure because of SRW and I FUCKING HATE IT. Is it generally considered shit or what?
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>>14113367
Brace for incoming Fafnerfags
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>>14113367
Well, people say that it's great, and apparently the newer portions of it are REALLY good.

Personally, I thought it was the combination of Gundam and EVA, but all of the parts that made them less than stellar. If you're not happy, just stop watching it, but I'm hearing good things about it.

But then again, I heard good things about Infinite Stratos and regretted wasting my time with that tripe.
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>>14113377
>Gundam and EVA
That was what made me interested but it doesn't feel like it's really working. Maybe it's because the main character is super boring.
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>>14113367
They literally changed the whole writing staff ten episodes in.
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>>14113367
Fafner is a meme.
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>>14113363
The only soul sucking mobile game I bother wasting my time playing. Well also miitomo but that doesn't count. Plus this game has robots to collect. and sluts
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>>14113398
Is it the SRW mobile game?
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>>14112692
Saint Seiya Zodiac Brave is a lot more forgiving, to be honest. For one, you can manually increase your character's rarity by collecting fragments (which you can also use to simply unlock him).

That, and I got lucky in my draws, so I have every non-premium Gold Saint (which means I can start saving crystals for the new gasha, whenever that is). The only ones I can't possibly get are Shaka, Muu and Saga (who of course happen to be my favorites), because you have to pay some 250 euro just to unlock that particular gasha.

To be fair, the really indispensable characters are available to everyone, so it's perfectly possible to get in the top 40 in PvP.
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>>14113401
It is indeed. An actual SRW mobile game, not the chinese bootleg with like 2 OG units, a bunch of gundam units, and Bonta kun. Though that one was pretty fun.
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>>14113406
Best girl and waifu.
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>>14113411
Can't argue with that. She's the only reason I watched the show. That and the alleged Pizza Hut logos
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>>14113398
>phone "game" apologist
>falling for the waifubait
Holy shit, end yourself, please.
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>>14113420
Good good, you're cool in my books anon.
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>>14113435
You can't stop the future, anon.
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>>14113443
But I can call the future a faggot
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>>14113411
Thats lelouch you won't trick me
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>>14113452
The future is totally a faggot. Go ahead.
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>>14113443
>the future
>that
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>>14112238
>>Aura Battler Dunbine
>>Gear Fighter Dendoh
>>Macross Plus
>>Shin Getter Robo vs. Neo Getter Robo
oh god yes
>>Aldnoah.Zero*
nigga
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>>14113443
Do you know of the future?
Can you control the past?
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>>14113459
It's pretty bleak, anon. Soon everyone will be playing shitty cashgrab mobile games and spinning your silly gacha's to try and get something good, but all you get is shit but you keep playing anyways for god knows what reason.
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>>14113467
>Implying I'd ever touch gacha shit in the first place
It's the only winning move
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>>14113467
What are you a videogame company? Shitty phone games are a whole different market. Stop being so nearsighted, for crying out loud.
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>>14113473
Oh come on, I can't even be overdramatic? At least let me have that.
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>>14113474
No, because there are a lot of people that actually think like that. It makes my blood boil how they can't see how classic videogames and phone games clearly are 2 completely different markets. They've already ruined lots of IPs because of that.
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>>14113476
Yeah, people just like being super fatalist.
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What's with the fafner guy who has crystals on his sword and turns his enemies into crystals? Like the fuck is going on?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUKwtySJIpI

IT'S HAPPENING
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>>14113489
>Giving a shit about Tales of Zesty: Edgy edition, featuring The Boat from Berserk™ series
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can someone update the game mods pastebin, the Nuruge D links are dead and the archives are dead but I can upload the file you need to UMDGEN into PSP MX
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https://mega.nz/#!PlkFkYqI!sxJByltOH_QFX6zA2McqLpZtPNzlsggW8u899QSS-c4
as promised here is hopefully the right file, just replace the original in your MX Portable file thingo using UMDGEN
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In BX I chose the "Go to the moon route" because I wanted more nadesico but now GaoGaiGar has disappeared. Do I get him back once the route is over?
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>>14113546
Yes, he'll return after the route ends.
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>>14113546
Yes, Route Splits are just temporary "we need to be in two places at the same time because events are happening and we'll meet up again later"
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>>14113550
Thank fuck for that. He's my strongest unit.
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>>14113552
Play W.
BX GGG is downright wimpy compared to that glorious, glorious machine.
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>>14113507
This one actually looks more interesting than Zesty
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>>14112299
>>14112328
On the other hand unlike Fukuda's other cockamany shows Dendoh is at least a straight up kids show which just happens to be entertaining enough for ages. So it gets away with a lot of leniency for those kind of issues.
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>>14113580
I actually only really care about hearing his theme and shoutouts
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>>14113406
That's just Bootleg SRW, Chinese SRW is actually in 3D and is closer to SRW in gameplay compared to Bootleg.
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>>14113377
>Infinite Stratos
Anon, when folks say it's Infinite shit, it's not because they're doing it out of jest.

>>14113595
Cyber Formula was also a kids show (which didn't have any noteworthy issues until the last couple of OVAs).

>>14112238
Add Gosaurer for funsies, since its main villain is similar to Pasder.
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>>14112592
Being a published hentai artist means it isn't really blueballing as such since you're gonna see plenty of their other art....

>>14112631
>>14112619
It has led to the amusing scenario before of a SRW where pic related was the beginning and end of everything.
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>>14113613
>Lelouch
>Cheat Lv 1
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>>14112592
By the time BONES makes its lewdest series ever, I'm almost sure Enokido will have figured out how he's supposed to do a good show by then, but end up draining all of the studio's budget.
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When's Cross Ange?
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Who is this guy and why does he have a Transformer?
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>>14113080
>>14113126
In almost every SRW where it's available SP Up is almost always the best option and damage boosting options are always secondary. It's just better to go for single turn smackdowns which just needs a good SP bank.

>>14113588
That isn't exactly hard to achieve, Zesty was a example of how you fuck up a game in every single aspect on a grand scale and still do well because your fanbase is obssessive enough to lap it up so you don't have to give a shit.

It's kind of like how the FE fanbase evolved from one which cared about a all rounded game into one that doesn't give a shit about the story or the fact their game isn't even complete long as they get their waifu's and husbando's.
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>>14113377
>Watching Battle Harems for anything but the girls and as a way to laugh at the trainwreck.

>>14113638
>FE Fanbase
Except a significant portion of the fanbase was mad about Fates botching the story in favor of waifus, not to mention that only one route felt like they gave a damn gameplay wise.

Its just that the waifufags are the most vocal lot. You should really go to other places that discuss FE besides /feg/ to get a real feel of the fanbase.
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>>14113642
> not to mention that only one route felt like they gave a damn gameplay wise.
That's the one Kitajima wrote as a guest for, wasn't it? He's the one that consistently writes darker plotlines for Senran Kagura's 3DS entries.
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>>14113638
>and still do well
Zesty has been a fucking disaster, what are you talking about?
Baba's been receiving death threats and had to literally beg for forgiveness and make public amends, every big name involved in it has been harassed in some ways included the seiyuu.
Zesty has been the singular, most catastrophic title in the franchise, it makes games like Tempest or Innocence look like huge hits.
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>>14113647
Conquest had the best gameplay.

Plotwise all three were varying degrees of eh. Although Revelations reads like a wild ride so its fun.
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>>14113638
>In almost every SRW where it's available SP Up is almost always the best option and damage boosting options are always secondary. It's just better to go for single turn smackdowns which just needs a good SP bank.
I haven't heard that opinion before - I never number-crunched the math, but I do believe that even in the realm of just comparing the SP related skills, SP Up is usually horrendously overcosted and both Regen and Concentration will give you much more bang for your buck depending on whether you want longevity or burst.
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I see even Dynasty Warriors is trying a SRW like game but a lack of Moon Dwellers news.
Anything new info this week?
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>>14113637
Everything is Transformers.
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>>14113660
>I see even Dynasty Warriors is trying a SRW like game
Explain
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>>14113648
It's only a disaster as a game not as a product.

Saleswise Zesty is a hit, it's well over 600k sales and still going up so whilst the mouths may be flapping something negative the wallets are saying the opposite.

Also Innocence WAS a huge hit, quarter million for a DS game is pretty damn healthy, Bamco even noted Innocence as one of their biggest successes that year in their annual report. Though IIRC it was due to first week/pre-order sales mainly and it did have a cliff edge drop off after.
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>>14113648
>Zesty has been a fucking disaster, what are you talking about?

and yet got 4th
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>>14113672
Japan have always had bad tastes.
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>>14113682
That applies to the west as well
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Mazinkaiser is coming to X-Omega!
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>>14113670
And being a disaster as a game does bad for the future ones.

There's a lot of people who are really weary about buying SO5 and Berseria because of their predecessors being bad games.

>>14113682
Zest actually sold pretty darn good for the PC in the west.
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>>14113648
It was 1500 yen used in stores after only 2-3 months (for comparison, Vesperia and Graces remained at 3000-4000 for 2-3 years) and somehow managed to do so bad it retroactively lowered the value of the other Tales games which all dropped 1000-2000 yen after the fiasco.
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>>14113702
This is false. All tales games have this shit happen to them. That's why they have so many DLC release weeks later to encourage people to keep their games.

The only reason Zestiria got review bombed in Japan was because Alisha and when that got them sour grapes they started shitting on every single little thing about the game (but always mentioning Alisha).
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>>14113712
>This is false. All tales games have this shit happen to them
So all Tales games drop to 1500 yen used in 2-3 months even though Vesperia and Graces stayed at 4000 yen for 4-5 years?

Are you retarded?
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>>14113712
>The only reason Zestiria got review bombed in Japan was because Alisha
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>>14113667
http://gematsu.com/2016/04/dynasty-warriors-eiketsuden-first-story-system-character-details
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>>14113715
You gotta have a source on that, buddy.
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>>14113712
>I've never been to Japan and have no idea what I'm talking about but I'm going to pretend to be an expert anyway :^)

Sasuga anon, shitposting all day every day.

http://www.bookoffonline.co.jp/old/0016871890
http://www.bookoffonline.co.jp/old/0017265115

http://www.comshop.co.jp/g-haku/index.php?jan=4560467045410
http://www.comshop.co.jp/g-haku/index.php?jan=4560467045595

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B00MHKHAXQ/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B00VB8UR0I/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all
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>>14113737
>>14113712
lel
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>>14113738
That doesn't show how much they costed before Zestiria, which is what I was asking source for.
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>>14113761
>implying that it matters
nice try shitposter but the fact that they still cost more than Zestiria RIGHT NOW despite being older is more than enough proof that you're full of shit

fuck off and die
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https://twitter.com/Anon27483992/status/720228915420094464
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Oh goddammit
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>>14113791
TE never replied to my TL request for BX secrets on twitter :(
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>>14113761
>>14113737
>>14113712
are you mattman?
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>>14113653
It's not efficient, you're right about that, it is overcosted. Concentration is a much better skill but it's fairly uncommon in appearances whilst SP Up seems to show up all the time.

It's a issue of having that last 5 or so SP to throw off another Fury/Lock On/Valor whatever. Realistically due to the way SRW is designed the only bosses who will ever give you trouble are those with HP regen and they are almost always effectively dealt with through a one turn burst tactic and decent SP management.
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The Cybuster (サイバスター Saibasutā) also called Cybaster. It is one of the first Banpresto original mecha created for the original generation series. The Cybuster and the related robots in its class make use of terminology and concepts from New Age spiritualism. The name of the Cybuster comes from three words: Psychics, Buster and Star. It is one of the seventeen units of the Langran Kingdom's Masouki Project, designed by Wendy Rasm Ignart, to fight the revival of the God of Destruction, Sava Volkruss and its followers. This Masoukishin is one of the fastest units created and the only one to gain the ability to transform.

Laplace demon's computer can interface with the pilot through the Spirit Dependancy Link, an event known as "full possession", "fusing" the blessing elemental and the pilot of a Masoukishin, enhancing its power at the fullest, and giving Cybuster the ability to access to the Akashic Records and gain control over the Principle of Cause and Effect.
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>>14113866
>Fury
How often is this actually useful? Generally, bosses with defensive abilities are pretty rare, so it's only notable for the games where it ignores size penalties. Unfortunately, those are the same games that give everyone Ignore Size on their finishers to begin with.

It's really fucking good in FMW, though. I'll give it that much. But that's more due to those games breaking from the design philosophy that leads to "the only bosses who will ever give you trouble are those with HP regen and they are almost always effectively dealt with through a one turn burst tactic."
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>>14113699
>And being a disaster as a game does bad for the future ones.
People were screaming bloody murder after the 'open beta' stink with the Tales games and they still sold.

You honestly can't predict how things will turn out.
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Well, I'm surprised. I tend to forget checking if Sayaka is in Mazinger Z after every stage, so I end up having to play with Aphrodite A, and I did not expect her to be a good mook killer. I guess the problem will be later on when enemies have better dodge/armor, but even she is OP in the early game.

All girl run is kind of retarded. I'm only at stage 12, and already have a 132 turn count. Reideen stage was really funny, since you only have one female unit that had to shoot down 20 enemies. But it does make things a bit different and interesting, since you use less units and actually pay more attention to ammo/EN early on. It's good that Combattler V's Chizuru has Repair so her unit isn't completely wasted with that one range 1 attack.
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>Huh, Zestiria is under 1000 yen now? Only other time that's happened to a current gen flagship Tales was 360 Vesperia.
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>>14113871
>How often is this actually useful?
Rarely. But it was mentioned for sake of example rather than fact, I think only place I really used it was in BX (super midget wars) and OG series for the debuffs.

>It's really fucking good in FMW
On the other hand in those games, fucking praise Fury. It's just hands down the best offensive spirit in the game more mostly down to the bosses just being really strong and size modifier really mattering.

Funny thing about that is due to the spellcard system the game employs, one turn burst plan actually has a disadvantage unlike in SRW. That being you may be utterly depleted afterwards and spend 2 turns of having to regroup if you want to capture the next spellcard. On the other hand it is really the only way you can even touch bosses with HP regen.

It is actually pretty fun.
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>>14113874
At least all girl runs are quite viable these days.
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>>14113874
>Well, I'm surprised. I tend to forget checking if Sayaka is in Mazinger Z after every stage, so I end up having to play with Aphrodite A, and I did not expect her to be a good mook killer.

It's not as strange as you think, in the older days of SRW it used to be common fact Sayaka was the best Mazinger pilot simply because of better spirits and stats. It was only really during @G onwards that suddenly Kabuto Kouji went from dying in magma to being invincible.
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>>14113883
I know right? And they keep buffing this blue-haired girl's mech so much that it remains useful even in endgame.
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>>14113904
A shame that the other blue-haired girl only had her combination attack in L, would have made her really good in subsequent appearances.
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Ok I know this off topic but it really isn't worth my starting a thread over (And is tangentially SRW related) but I just finished Code Geass Akito. Wow that was...really not great.

I mean, episode 5 was better than the others but it still didn't feel right. So much stuff when completely unexplained or amounted to nothing. General Smilas' rebellion went nowhere, being crushed in less than a minute DURING THE CREDITS. That Geass ghost lady is also a huge question mark as they go out of their way to say she's different from C2, but never anything about her aside from being the "collective consciousness", something that has never been brought up before this point (unless you count the Sword of Akasha but I don't think that's the same), nor do they explain what she has to do with Smilas.

Let's also not forget that the good guys don't suffer a single casualty during the entire final battle, as we never see any Alexander blow up, just sort of fall over or stumble backwards as they get shot up. Lelouch and Suzaku are so pointless they might as well not have been in the show at all, as the entire subplot with Kingsley adds absolutely nothing to the proceedings.

I did enjoy the fighting come the end though. As much as I dislike the design of centaur robo the Sutherlands were cool. They faught more like how they did in the original, as I don't recall them ever being capable of somersaults as they did in the previous OVAs. I also liked Akito's Liberte, reminded me of Tohdoh's Zangetsu.

Really though so much of the series felt so un-Code Geass or poorly explained that I feel like it could have benefited from being a full 2 cour rather than a set of 5 OVAs. More time to tell the story, establish the characters etc.

I'm told OZ The Reflection is good though so I might check it out. Anything I should know going into it?
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>>14113908
As an aside, they never give Four and Kamille a combo attack ever do they?

shame
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>>14113904
One of these days they're going to make a game where a blue haired girl only run is possible.
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>>14113912
They don't have the privilege of being a Suzumura/Sakamoto team, sadly.
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>>14113912
I don't think Zeta's got a combo attack since the one it had with ZZ in D and XO.

Then again D was super generous with combination attacks you had all kinds of crazy stuff. All the Nu Gundam variants could pull off Double Fin Funnel and even Boss Borot had a combination attack.
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>>14113911
The Code Geass thread has been translating the manga, at the 3rd volume now. The second part, O2, takes place during R2, while the first is at the same time as Akito. Like SEED Astray, the story is complemented with a photo novel that shows the protagonist's brother side of the story.

And pic related.
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>>14113927
I wonder what happened in the dev team to start adding the NT shenanigans to Gundams like Zeta and Nu.
You never used to see the Zeta use it's psycho barrier or it's hyper mega sword in the really early SRW games.

I mean, I welcome the change. I am just curious to know what made them start adding the things.
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>>14113972
Power Inflation I think - they're still the poster boys for UC Gundam but "Big Laser Attack" and especially Funnels are really very mundane nowadays compared to the Winkysoft days.
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>>14113979
That's probably a more logical conclusion to draw.

I remember in one of the DS G Gen games they gave Kamille, Judau and Amuro some kinda triple super NT combo move that literally curbstomps the whole game when used.
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>>14113882
Support Attack spam lets you get around needing to cast Valor. If you chain them properly with Suwako debuff only people like Yorihime will live longer than two turns.
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>>14113874
>>14113883
My ladies run on 64 is going well, though. Turn count is a bit high maybe, but it doesn't matter. In my previous (normal) run I liked to just kinda turtle and let the enemies come to me anyway. And the kill count is not as horribly centralized as I thought it might be.
I need to start getting some better Mobile Suits, though. Emma is in the Hyaku Shiki which is pretty meh, and I don't wanna put money into it because I can't upgrade it to Full Armor in my planned route so it's not gonna hold up in the late game. And I'm about to get Fa, too. Maybe I'll try them together in the Super Gundam, but it's annoying in this game because you have to combine it on the map.
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>>14113884
It was more that she could level up easier than Kouji. At the same level she was weaker PowerLine than Kouji at least in srw3
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>>14112103
Booru'd
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>>14113467
The only browser game worth playing is Kantai collection as there is no gambling gatcha.
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>>14114027
I kind of reached a dead end, since the boss is really retarded in this case. After I kill Gato in stage 12 some tentacle monster appears that regenerates around 40% of his HP every turn, plus it's in water which makes most of my units shit. Since my male units are underleveled, even by "cheating" and using them only for that boss it's impossible. Grungust is still dealing the most damage, but I can barely get its health down to 50% with all units, only to see it back to 100% next turn. Oh well, maybe I should just give up on the skill point and max my Will by killing mooks rather than Gato.
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BX is just turning out to be a GaoGaiGar and Nadesico curb stomping simulator. I hate the fact that the main character is boring and has a shitty robot though, like why'd they even bother if he's so shit?
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>>14114090
What, like design-wise?

Because at the end-game it's a 4-pilot unit that basically regenerates any damage it takes and also gains SP per turn
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>>14114090
I'm afraid you're the one who's shit
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>>14114094
I'm not that far yet but that sounds good. I like the design kinda, it was mainly just how powerful he is and that he seems to eat up EN like crazy
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>>14114090
For me it was the Aestivalis and Billbine super power theatre.
Oh, and Unicorn, that thing is an unparalleled murderhouse. 00 Qan[T] and FX are like fucking Jegans compared to it.

There are whole sections of the game where I forgot I had Mazingers.
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>>14114122
Did you get Sirbine? That thing was pure untouchable murder on my side of things. It was more immortal than J simply by virtue of not having to get hit rather than just utterly tanking everything for 1 damage like King J-Der.
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>>14114133
Oh yeah, I got the full Byston Well package.
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>>14113693
Oh baby, it is.
Fucking love 'Kaiser

[Muffled Fire Wars in the distance]
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>>14114133
Only problem with Sirbine is once Bilbine gets it's S rank in Sky bonus there is just very little reason to use being extremely similar but with Bilbine having the bonus of overpowered combination attacks.

Least Sirbine is styling.
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>>14114141
I honestly struggle using anything from dunbine. I haven't watched it and the robots just seem weird to me. Maybe I'd get it if I'd seen the anime
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>>14114141
Is Shou the only character who can pilot Sirbine?
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>>14114156
Yes.
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>>14114090
Falsaber gets better. I mean, it's upgrade's design is still fucking terrible, but it becomes a great unit.

Youta is always going to remain a boring noncharacter, though, so you're just going to have to power through that.

>BX is just turning out to be a GaoGaiGar and Nadesico curb stomping simulator

Plenty of broken units to use in BX if you take advantage of the combo attacks for boss killing. The Aestivalis units are rubbish, but their combos are worth it for killing the umpteenth boss the game will throw at you in a single stage.
Then there's Mic Sounders to boost you to 130 in the first three turns.
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>>14113693
No Shin Mazinger, Getter G and Shin Getter yet?
I love Mazinkaiser though.
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>>14114141
>implying Billbine ain't stylin' as well
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>>14113870
What is the limit of causality manipulation for Cybuster?
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>>14114160
Aesties are outstanding in the early game though.
Their combos are pulling 15k when everyone else can barely muster 7k hits.
And thats with zero upgrades.
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>>14114167
Billbine is a plastic toy in design.

Ain't got shit on Sirbine's bling.
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>>14114090
Just wait until you get THAT.
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>>14114160
They should just keep Falsaber mace as its weapon and final attack. I am bored looking at every sword finisher since a lot of robots already have them.
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>>14114173
They're both plasitc toys in design.
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>>14114170
Their combos are still worth it for the late game.
At least, Double Gekigan Flare is. Even if it isn't that EN efficient, you can just park the Nadesico right behind it and be A-OK.

I only really deployed the other three Aesties because BX doesn't the best selection of filler, middle of the road units. At least I could get a strong combo attack out of them, unlike the Galient units not named Galient.
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>>14114180
Sirbine is not a toy, anon.
It's a FIGURE.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE SHUT UP
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>>14114186
Despite liking him, I felt Gorg was also a bencher until at least he got some attacks under his belt.
But I guess BX really loves the whole "mechs with 3 attacks for half the game : the game" thing.
Silly SD Gundams.
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>>14114186
The only Aestie I used past early game was Ryoko, it makes a good partner for Galient
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>>14114175
Which THAT? There are several.
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>>14114178
Swords are eternal, anon, though; they're never going to go away completely.

>>14114193
Gorg's issue with range and the fact that for a while his only way to attack airborne units is by his rock-throwing attack did make him have a bit of an issue early on, yeah.

Though his immortality certainly is a plus, at least. (And he's certainly better there than his SRC incarnation)
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>>14114201
I think he's referring to the "Where is your God now" cannon MAP for the Nadesico.
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